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9/11 Bloglines (10/07)
October 7, 2006
* 9/11 FAA manager Ben Sliney interviewed
* 10/06 Chomsky: 9-11: Institutional Analysis vs. Conspiracy Theory
* RandiForum: Diggin through the dirty history of "Khashoggi-Gray-Truth Movement"
* PDOnline/Flight93 Plume Blog: ""Blogs Shoot First, Ask Questions Later""
* Atta/AQ Tape linked to Rumsfeld/Venzke
* 911courage.org "at the Department of State"
* Randi Forum invades 9/11 TV Fakery petition
* 9/11 Collapse Footage by Dr. Mark Heath
* 9/11Co.UK: "Planes Yay or Nay"
* Jolly Roger apparently left 9/11 Truth Action
* Luke Radowski: 9/11 Truth Update
* DailyKOS diary rules about 9/11
* Kristol 9/11/PNAC confrontation makes YouTube waves
* Some 9/11 Truth Photos on FlickR
* OnlineJournal: The real state of denial
* Alternet-Derkacz Blog on Ashcroft: "9/11 Conspiracy Friday"
* A blogger responds to Cockburn, Re: 9/11
* ConspSmasher's daily Rants: The 9/11 conspiracy theories are not just loony, they are morally detestable.
* Hangout articles on 9/11 Prior Knowledge could affect elections
Since there has been a mass influx of people into the 9/11 Truth Movement, I thought it would be a good idea to let people have the chance to talk with those who have contributed so much to this cause.
I have sent out an email to the people I think people could learn something from. So far, I have received 3 gracious responses.
Those who are willing to participate, will set a time for when they are available, and it will be posted here. This thread will be moderated. If you are disrespectful, your comments will be deleted.
This is meant to be a way for newcomers to learn from those who have been doing this for so long.
Please try and take advantage of the knowledge from this thread. It will be invaluable.
especially if the diebold machines in your county do not have a paper trail
The Diebold Memos' Smoking Gun
Volusia County Memos Disclose Election 2000 Vote Fraud
By Alastair Thompson
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"DELAND, Fla., Nov. 11 - Something very strange happened on election night to Deborah Tannenbaum, a Democratic Party official in Volusia County. At 10 p.m., she called the county elections department and learned that Al Gore was leading George W. Bush 83,000 votes to 62,000. But when she checked the county's Web site for an update half an hour later, she found a startling development: Gore's count had dropped by 16,000 votes, while an obscure Socialist candidate had picked up 10,000--all because of a single precinct with only 600 voters."
- Washington Post Sunday , November 12, 2000 ; Page A22
Yes. Something very strange happened in Volusia County on election night November 2000, the night that first Gore won Florida, then Bush, and then as everybody can so well remember there was a tie.
Something strange indeed. But what exactly? In the above report ( click for full version), written days after the election, hotshot Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank goes on to attribute the strange 16,022 negative vote tally from Volusia's precinct 216 to an apparently innocent cause.
Here is a short little something you all may find to be good reading:
Richard Ben-Veniste said the following to Condoleezza Rice the following question during her appearance before the 9/11 Commission:
"The extraordinary high terrorist attack threat level in the summer of 2001 is well documented, and Richard Clarke's testimony about the possibility of an attack against the United States homeland was repeatedly discussed from May to August within the intelligence community, and that is well documented. You acknowledged that Richard Clarke told you that Al-Qaeda cells were in the United States.
The August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Brief was entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US".
The CIA Director had warned congress shortly before 9/11 "that there could be an attack, an imminent attack, on the United States of this nature. So this is not entirely unexpected" according to a broadcast on National Public Radio
Traitor Kos (rhymes with Trader Joe's)
Left Gatekeeper: (noun) Someone who pretends to be liberal or progressive in order to achieve credibility and a following among those holding views considered liberal or progressive. They then use their influence to discourage discussion or consideration of any information or ideas damaging to the ruling class, such as the truth about 9/11, thus drawing an artificial line that people will avoid crossing and controlling discussion of things that actually matter and could disrupt the status quo. Examples: Noam Chomsky, Arianna Huffington, Michael Moore, Amy Goodman, and of course, the Daily Kos.
From the Daily Kos FAQ:
Controversial 9/11 Diaries
DailyKos accepts that the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by agents of Al-Qaeda. It is forbidden to write diaries that:
It was recently reported that "Henry Kissinger has been advising President Bush and Vice President Cheney about Iraq, telling them that "victory is the only meaningful exit strategy," author and journalist Bob Woodward said."
Henry Kissinger was also Bush's first choice to head the 9/11 Commission.
I thought it was important that people see this movie.
Analyze and discuss.. O-t-N
WORLD EXCLUSIVE madcowprod.com
Oct 04, 2006--Venice,FL.
by Daniel Hopsicker
Recently-released court documents from the trial of Zacharias Moussaoui show clear evidence of the FBI attempt to cover-up the whereabouts and activities of lead 9.11 hijacker Mohamed Atta in Florida between January and May of 2001, confirming reports which have appeared exclusively in the MadCowMorningNews.
Released over government objection through the efforts of The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, the documents illustrate the pattern of omission and selective editing through which the Bureau has deflected attention from the terrorist's conspiracy's base of operations in Venice FL.
Four months after the FBI's official chronology states Mohamed Atta left Florida's Gulf Coast for the Miami area, Atta was still using a Venice-area cell phone.
And these four months worth of Atta's phone calls are not listed or included in the released cell phone records.
The documents also give the lie to continuing attempts by the terrorists’ hometown paper, the New York Times-owned Sarasota Herald-Tribune, to salvage its lackluster record in covering the story of the dozens of suspected terrorists living cheek-by-jowl in its midst by invalidating the testimony of a key witness, uncritically presenting her recantation as if witnesses being pressured to change their stories were not a daily fact of life.
Did you see this? It is a month old already, but it may have slipped everyone's attention:
"[...] we, the National Security Whistleblowers, want to go on record
one more time to reiterate the significant issues and cases that were
duly reported to the 9/11 commission by those of us from the intelligence,
aviation, and law enforcement communities, but ended up being censored
Sibel Edmonds and William Weaver enumerate 13 whistleblowers by name who have attempted to testify their knowledge before the now infamous "Ommission Commission". Their details are mindboggling. None of their people were called into hearings by the Commission's own initiative; all of them had to insist being heard and interviewed. Most failed to get a hearing -- and those who did, have seen their testimonies omitted in the final report.. This is truely smashing evidence for a cover up job being well executed by the commission.
Hmm.... maybe I better reproduce a full copy of the original publication in here (with some added highlighting by myself), so it gets wider circulation: (Has this ever been picked up by DailyKos and similar "alternative" outlets?)
The 9/11 Commission: A Play on Nothing in Three Acts
by Sibel Edmonds and William Weaver
A wag once famously said that Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Godot was a play where nothing happened… twice. The two former co-chairmen of the 9/11 commission report, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, have released a new book, Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission. This book goes Beckett one better – it is the third act of veneer over substance, self-aggrandizement over serious analysis, and cliché over perspicacity. It is another calculated attempt by the former commissioners to place themselves in the media spotlight, and to overcome the humiliation of their widely criticized and mostly debunked report. It is a vapid and substanceless attempt to claim moral high ground and present the cochairmen as heroes of honesty. It would be a farce, except that it has no story line, save the aggrandizement of the authors. At least they are consistent in doing nothing and proclaiming that to be a sign of their devotion to the country and the government. Beckett once said that "habit is the ballast that chains the dog to its vomit," and by this measure the chain restraining Kean and Hamilton is a short one indeed.
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If it's not breaking any board guidlines, I would like to post some of my favoutie photos, which I have collected over the years. God that sounds awful, for those who have been truthlings since day one. We need to wrap this up, guys, it's been five years.
The evidence that the government has covered up and whitewashed what really occurred on 9/11 is overwhelming.
And the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people (free subscription required).
Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations.
9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history.
The short answer is to ignore it. The simple act of acknowledging a fake reality by contesting it immediately raises its mass from 0 to something capable of germinating and sprouting legs. Lesson number 1 in the reality wars is never acknowledge the fake reality unless you have to for some reason, i.e. because it is being acknowledged by enough other people that your ignoring it raises questions. The 9/11 perps, who would like to give the impression that their guilt in their own conspiracy is itself a fake reality tried that for a while and having failed, switched to the less ideal strategy of contesting it. Truthers, who know the OT to be a fake reality, never had the luxury of ignoring it--this is the advantage that goes to White in chess, that of making the first move. Our moves in response to the first move however can realistically involve ignoring some aspects of the OT's fake reality, especially those that are added daily in support of the teetering OT. Some of these are easy to ignore, like the distractions of pedophiles and child murderers. These are tragedies, sure, but they do not rise to the level of national importance that begs for front page coverage. Others, like a new "al Qaeda" tape du jour, are trickier since ignoring them runs the risk of allowing the public to add it, as the perps would like, to the support structure for their own realities that are by now pretty much dependent on the OT. In order to determine whether or not to dignify a piece of disinfo with a response, we should weigh the potential effectiveness of it in the construction of our adversaries' fake reality.
By Jon Gold
I saw someone mention tonight the fact that the Secret Service didn't bother to protect the President on 9/11, and this question occurred to me. "Did the President receive "Air Cover" at any time during his time at Booker Elementary?"
So, I set out to see when the President received "Air Cover." It made sense to me that during a time when America was "under attack" from kamikaze hijackers in commercial airliners, that the President of the United States would receive "Air Cover." Especially considering there was an international airport not 5 miles away. Makes sense, right?
Thanks to Paul Thompson's GREAT WORK, I found the following:
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Harry Samit is a Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent based out of the FBI Field Office in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He is a former United States Navy naval aviator, Naval Intelligence Officer, and a certified private pilot. He is most noted for arresting Zacarias Moussaoui on August 16, 2001.
Samit became aware of Moussaoui because of Clancy Prevost , a certified flight instructor at the Pan-Am International Flight Academy in Eagan, Minnesota. Moussaoui had enrolled for training in a 747-400 simulator at the school on August 13 but his behavior during instruction alarmed Prevost, who did not believe that Moussaoui was just a wealthy individual interested in flying jumbo jets. At Prevost's urging, the flight school contacted the Minneapolis FBI Field Office, and Samit was one of the special agents assigned to investigate Moussaoui.
Moussaoui was arrested by Samit for a visa violation on August 16 but, because the arrest was effected outside the Residence Inn where Moussaoui had been staying, Samit had no legal right to search the hotel room and its contents without Moussaoui's consent. Moussaoui denied consent, so Samit could only search Moussaoui and his car. Samit found a small knife in Moussaoui's left pocket and another knife in the car.
Juicy tidbits here, as well as lots of finger pointing and distancing, eh?
"Ashcroft also writes that the commission's hearings "were not so much about discovering the truth as they were about assessing blame and grandstanding," adding that they "degenerated into show trials."
"Ashcroft "may very well have been the worst witness we interviewed," he said, adding he was "very unresponsive and unhelpful.""
-- GOP Commissioner Slade Gorton
"The day prior to Ashcroft's testimony, the man who had been acting FBI director throughout the summer of 2001, Thomas Pickard, told the commission that Ashcroft had told him during a briefing covering counter-terrorism that "he did not want to hear about this anymore," and had refused a request for additional funding for FBI counter-terrorist activities."
Yet Ashcroft stopped flying commercial aircraft in the weeks preceeding 9/11 in response to a warning given by DCI George Tenet!
Analysis: Ashcroft blasts 9-11 Commission
By SHAUN WATERMAN
UPI Homeland and National Security Editor
WASHINGTON, Oct. 5 (UPI) -- Former Attorney General John Ashcroft this week became the only Cabinet-level Bush official to attack the Sept. 11 Commission, writing in his memoirs it "seemed obsessed with trying to lay the blame for the terrorist attacks at the feet of the Bush administration, while virtually absolving the previous administration of responsibility."
According a Belgian website http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_270756.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 a certain mollah Maasum Afghani, president of the board of oelama's (whatever that may be) of the Taliban warns all Mulsims to leave the USA as soon as possible because "God will punish the USA" This will possibly take place on the 17th day of the Ramadan. According to the website this is coming Monday but according to me this is on Tuesday. (because of the time difference between Afghanistan and the USA?) Could this be the announcement of a new fals flag operation in order to be able to attack Iran and make Bush the first official dictator of the USA?
I can remember back in the summer of 2001, as the country was all-consumed by the Gary Condit scandal, dark and ominous clouds were gathering on the horizon and reports were leaking from around the world that Al Qaeda was planning some sort of catastrophic attack against American “symbols” of power.
I can remember reports that the US military was on Delta Alert (the highest state of alert - short of open warfare). I can remember Diane Feinstein’s warnings on the Sunday morning talk shows of an impending attack. I can remember the Jerusalem Post’s article predicting a major attack. I can remember my state of alarm as it appeared that the raging violence in Israeli’s occupied territories, and the nearly daily suicide bombings, were accelerating towards some crescendo on the world stage.
Yet, night after night, we were treated to the Gary Condit news hour on each of the major networks. It indeed appeared that there was no other news but the Gary Condit scandal.
And then 9/11 happened, and no one has heard very much about Gary Condit ever since.
A few months back while Israel was mercilessly bombarding Lebanon (the just recently newly-celebrated seat of democracy in the Middle East) we suddenly found our attentions drawn to the bazaar tale of Mark Karr, the confessed killer of Jon Benet Ramsey. The media became transfixed on the lurid details of Mark Karr’s past, with Karr’s ultra-creepy face and blank stare radiating out from every newspaper tabloid and TV news hour in the nation, despite the incredible lack of CREDIBLE evidence that Mark Karr could possibly be Jon Benet’s killer, including DNA evidence that amazing was not produced for weeks, as Karr was flown first-class back to the United States and was photographed sipping champagne.
As a crossroads of elitism, intellect, and tourism, Harvard Square affords a truther the opportunity to inject truth "directo a la vena" or straight to the vein, of the power elite and their groupies. Often incorrectly described as ultra-liberal (the Kremlin on the Charles) the Harvard community is in fact a mish mosh of generally acquiescent would-be ladder climbers from any and all acceptable mainstream political currents. Behind the ivy laced brick veneer, a battle rages for the heart and soul of Harvard--will it focus on teaching or the more lucrative research that brings in $400 million a year in federal funds? Does raising money trump integrity, as when Harvard recently accepted a $10 million gift from the co-founder of the Carlyle Group? Can prestige co-exist with the disgrace of looters like Prof. Andrei Schleifer who retains his teaching post even after Harvard was forced to pay millions in damages to the government for Schleifer's tawdry insider dealings in Russia? Will professors of absurd and outrageous conspiracy theories continue to be allowed to teach impressionable youngsters their twisted views of the events of 9/11 and Islamofascism, as Professor of History and senior adviser to the Zelikow coverup commission Ernest May currently does in his course on 9/11? Will Harvard's student paper, a breeding ground for New York Times wannabes continue to follow the path of Judith Miller's employer into journalistic irrelevance? Will the sophomore who was praised for her precocious book contract before it was discovered that she plagiarized huge parts of her book graduate on time and with honors?
A Corrupted Election
Despite what you may have heard, the exit polls were right
By Steve Freeman and Josh Mitteldorf
Recall the Election Day exit polls that suggested John Kerry had won a convincing victory? The media readily dismissed those polls and little has been heard about them since.
Many Americans, however, were suspicious. Although President Bush prevailed by 3 million votes in the official, tallied vote count, exit polls had projected a margin of victory of 5 million votes for Kerry. This unexplained 8 million vote discrepancy between the election night exit polls and the official count should raise a Chinese May Day of red flags.
The U.S. voting system is more vulnerable to manipulation than most Americans realize. Technologies such as electronic voting machines provide no confirmation that votes are counted as cast, and highly partisan election officials have the power to suppress votes and otherwise distort the count.
Exit polls are highly accurate. They remove most of the sources of potential polling error by identifying actual voters and asking them immediately afterward who they had voted for.
The reliability of exit polls is so generally accepted that the Bush administration helped pay for them during recent elections in Georgia, Belarus and Ukraine. Testifying before the House Committee on International Relations Dec. 7, John Tefft, deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, explained that the Bush administration funded exit polls because they were one of the “ways that would help to expose large-scale fraud.” Tefft pointed to the discrepancy between exit polls and the official vote count to argue that the Nov. 22 Ukraine election was stolen.
By Shaun Waterman Oct 6, 2006, 0:43 GMT
WASHINGTON, DC, United States (UPI) -- Former Attorney General John Ashcroft this week became the only Cabinet-level Bush official to attack the Sept. 11 Commission, writing in his memoirs it 'seemed obsessed with trying to lay the blame for the terrorist attacks at the feet of the Bush administration, while virtually absolving the previous administration of responsibility.'
Ashcroft also writes that the commission`s hearings 'were not so much about discovering the truth as they were about assessing blame and grandstanding,' adding that they 'degenerated into show trials.'
GOP Commissioner Slade Gorton, a former senator from Washington State, told United Press International Thursday that he found the charges 'extraordinary,' recalling that President Bush had personally repudiated Ashcroft`s tactics in his sparring with the commission.
Al Qaeda Tapes: Direct Link To Military Psyops And Donald Rumsfeld
Following the trail for five minutes leads to Pentagon
Thousands of protesters clogged New York City's streets as they marched from the United Nations headquarters. Some people lay down in the middle of the street, while others carried signs saying "Expose 9/11" and "This war should be over." They also handed out fliers reading, "Drive out the Bush regime."
Greg Palast: Big Oil & The Armed Madhouse
Alex Jones welcomes Greg Palast live in studio to discuss high crimes and misdemeanors of the corporate elite as exposed in Palast's new bestselling book Armed Madhouse: Who's Afraid of Osama Wolf?, China Floats, Bush Sinks, The Scheme to Steal '08,No Child's Behind Left, and Other Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War.
Palast covers the pre-9/11 plans to formulate policies for controlling Iraq's oil fields and the cover-up surrounding them, the deliberate plan to engender chaos in Iraq, the state of journalism in America, and the slow slide to soft dictatorship.
Palast's analysis of the peak oil scam decimates the claims of those who say black gold is on its way out of existence and it should be regulated by oil companies who in their own documents have been caught creating artificial scarcity. The role of Venezuela and Hugo Chavez in oil politics is also covered.
Media Watch is, as the name suggests, a media watchdog program on our Australia wide public (non commercial) television broadcaster. I received a reply within moments. Automated response of course. Hopefully that is not the only response. Hopefully my essay will help other readers who might still have difficulties believing that 911 is not satisfactorily or even competently explained by the officially sanctioned reports to find out for themselves.
Dear Media Watch,
If part of the purpose of your program is to criticise and bring to the viewer's attention serious shortcomings in media behaviour, then I believe it is imperative you mention, though I believe it deserves a whole program or more, the almost complete lack of coverage of what may prove to be the most crucial issues in modern political history.
I am deeply concerned by what appears to be deliberate censorship of what may prove to be the most critical news out of the United States of America ever. There are growing, in numbers and in sophistication, individuals and groups around the world, but importantly in the US, who are extremely critical of the officially sanctioned reports, and who are putting forward alternative theories to the official reports for several of the events of September 11, 2001, and for events leading up to that day, and since.
I will write memories tommorrow. It's too late tonight, but at least here are the pics.
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In the most recent issue of the newsletter Counterpunch editor Alexander Cockburn published another rant against those who would question the official story of 9/11.
Cockburn begins his most recent hit piece by claiming that “9/11 nuts proffer…disturbing questions though they disdain all answers but their own," however as one reads it becomes clear that it is in fact Cockburn who prefers his own answers to questions raised by the impudent “nutters.” After all, Cockburn agrees with Michael Neumann's remark that there isn’t “a single serious question about 9-11,” and with Neumann's claim that whatever lingering doubts might remain in the minds of “nutters” derive from the same kind of irrationality that perpetuates beliefs in “angels, creationism, and…channeling.”
Putting aside the fact that both Neumann and Cockburn evidently fail to understand what a logical argument is as they both blithely engage in the fallacy of association, what is especially worth noting is that the most prominent source of disturbing questions about 9/11 is the Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 independent commission. The family members of the victims of 9/11 had and still have many legitimate questions about 9/11 including why jets were unable to intercept the hijacked planes if they were airborne within eight minutes of notification? And the question of why NORAD apparently waited until after the second plane hit the WTC to try and prevent possible further attacks, and why the fighter jets that tailed flights 11 and 175 as they crashed into New York’s WTC were not rerouted to intercept flights 77 or 93, before they crashed into the Pentagon and Pennsylvania?
I'm not fan of Democrats but I think we have a good chance of getting impeachment underway after November 7. If we get that then the least we will get is a huge impeachment style cover-up which sucks...but it's better then nothing.
Think about it. November 7th crowds greet the democrats to office with impeachment messages ringing loud. They will be forced to deal with the situation!
Is it possible to organize in just over a month? Converge on Washington DC for the "November Surprise".
Think about it. 9/11 Truth and other indy media needs to start advertising an event ASAP!
Again...as I search the MSM of course NO COVERAGE of this event. It went down in Portland...here is the link brothers.....
In our area this was HEADLINE NEWS here, and No spin was put on it as I watch the news here...just straight reporting of what was going on. Would love to see links from around the country in your city. I have googled many times for different cities news and come up with nothing, so show me please...
The game is ON........
We have 3 weeks before the ships arrive to bomb Iran...we need to act.
Send these facts to everyone.....
We can do it brothers....we need to stop this.....it is you & me & your family & anyone you care about. If I get taken away to one of the camps, all I ask is that you fight to get me out.
If you are still living in a sick neo-con christian-fascist bubble (as is George Bush), what is the next best thing to serving up Osama Bin Laden as an October Surprise? My guess is it will be serving up Saddam's head on a stick (remember: "he tried to kill my dad!". Especially considering UBL is probably already dead or is still on the CIA payroll.
We all know how much the Bush cabal likes parading the carcass of so-called "evil doers" all over for the world to see. Remember Uday and Qusay? This is a sick bunch of wannabe cowboys.
But there may be a heavy price to pay for Saddam's blood. As the following article illustrates, if Saddam (or should I say WHEN Saddam) is found guilty and sentenced to death, Iraqi law requires that his execution be carried out within 30 days. I bet these sick sons of bitches are ghoulish enough to actually do it on Halloween (Oct. 31).
There is little doubt but that they do plan to "off" Saddam. They have to! He knows too much. But at what cost? Plus, the way things are going in Iraq... there is a realistic chance that the world may rally and actually call for his return to power. Something Bush would never allow to happen. But things are getting so unbelievably bad, perhaps the only way to avoid that eventuality is to kill him. And my guess is that's exactly what they plan to do.
Just a quick note about the new CAPTCHA system I just enabled..
We got hit with about 35 or so spam comments today from spambots. In order to continue to allow anonymous comments we had to put something in place that would prevent these spambots from coming back more and more frequently. The CAPTCHA system we put in place will ask a simple math question to anonymous users before they can add a comment in order to show they are a real person and not an automated script. I went with the math question over the typical distorted image because frequently those can be a pain to work with.
Hopefully this won't cause anyone any issues, but should get rid of the spambots.
p.s. the content of this site is now 100% indexed (and updated every other hour), so the search abilities on the site are totally killer now, be sure to try it out next time your looking for something.
Update: I decided to switch to the image mode instead of the math questions since apparently some might think the math question was completely pointless and not realize what it is for.