Proper Release of Griffin in Madison

Here is the info from BookTV's Schedule

The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions
David Ray Griffin

Description: David Ray Griffin takes a critical look at the official 9/11 Commission Report. Professor Griffin argues that "omissions and distortions" in the report amount to a cover-up by government officials and says that the available evidence suggests that the Bush administration was complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Professor Griffin covers topics he says have been inadequately answered by the commission. These include questions surrounding the attack on the Pentagon, the way in which the World Trade Center towers collapsed, and the behavior of President Bush and his Secret Service detail following notification that a second plane had hit the WTC. The talk was hosted by the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth ( and took place at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. Includes Q&A.

Author Bio: David Ray Griffin is professor emeritus at the Claremont School of Theology, where he taught for over 30 years (retiring in 2004). He has authored or edited over two dozen books, including "God and Religion in the Postmodern World," "Religion and Scientific Naturalism," and "The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11."

here it is:

David Ray Griffin in Madison, WI on 4/18/2005

As Broadcast on CSPAN's BookTV (hosted by

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  • EDIT: the transcript of this speech can be found here..

    EDIT: over 436GB of downloads as of 5/14/2005!

    "Moreover, as America

    "Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." board: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives by Zbigniew Brzezinski

    That the Bush administration has desperately fought every attempt to independently investigate the events of 9/11, is not a "theory."
    last but not least:

    "Further, the process of transformation,
    even if it brings revolutionary change, is
    likely to be a long one, absent some
    catastrophic and catalyzing event like a
    new Pearl Harbor."

    -- Project for a New American Century,
    -- the neocon cabal's blueprint for world empire.

    A President at War, A

    A President at War, A President at Power
    By Stuart Robertson

    So many They died,
    On the day Nine Eleven.
    Three thousand Great Souls,
    Went straight up to Heaven.

    Not long past their death,
    No more was our pain.
    Our Promise to Them,
    They died not in vain.

    To your Heart, you must listen,
    And hear a New Song.
    Look past the distractions,
    Lest you get it all wrong.

    Keep open your mind,
    The Word upon Wood.
    Look out for the Signs,
    And All will be Good.

    To news tend closely,
    Watch for a new book.
    The Knowledge you seek,
    Is there if you look.

    Our FreedomÂ’s at stake,
    Get your own copy!
    Let not your New Quest,
    A little be sloppy!

    Listen for secrets,
    Behind the closed doors.
    Look for the patterns,
    As you read about wars.

    “Blood’s thicker than Water,”
    To quote friends of old.
    “But oil,” they say,
    “Is better than gold.”

    From the labor of bees,
    Life gets its sweet honey.
    Lest man labor for Love,
    He shall not know money.

    And money and planes,
    Shall crash into towers.
    ‘Til man knows The Day,
    Love is Great Power!

    As an architect and

    As an architect and structural engineer with a PhD, working all day long in designing highraises, I can't figure for the WCT7 collapse any other explanation than a controlled demolition. The acceptance of the pankake theory for not only one but TWO towers, has nothing to do with science. It would be part of a system of belief that removes from the analysis the possibility of something very hard to swallow. Every isolated incident that ended with the collapse of the towers (from the previous inteligence "failures", to the lack of response, to the physics of the event) defies reason. All of them put together are simply impossible.
    Hopefully the day will come when the responsible people for what happened that day and for the wars that followed will be impeached, tried and jailed for crimes against humanity. And not only for
    the deliberate killing of 3000 people, but for the thousands and thousands to come in future generations exposed to DU.

    c.t. campbell, here is an

    c.t. campbell,

    here is an mp3 link, dunno if it will stream or not.. hope that helps:

    you should be able to stream the video from cspan after it airs tommrorow..

    Could someone find/post a

    Could someone find/post a transcript, please? Or at least a streaming audio file?

    Thank you



    Here you will find hi-resolution video of the (obvious) demolition of World Trade Center Seven and of the (less obvious) demolition of the Towers. The Naudet brothers stunning footage of the first plane hitting the North tower is also presented (at least one of the brothers quite clearly knew the first aircraft was about to hit the North Tower) together with less well known footage of the first plane hitting the tower, accidently caught by someone filming, while waiting in traffic.

    If you are using Windows Media Player you need the DivX3.11a codec plug-in (many non-Microsoft movie players come standard with the codecs necessary to play DivX movies (eg Mplayer for Linux)).

    If you do not already have it, you can find it here:

    The files from are bit for bit the same (I checked) as those I have had on my system for years (with no harmful effects). You unzip the files and double click on Register_DivX.exe

    If you wish to learn about DivX movies, in particular, why they sometimes play upside-down, read this thread:


    Here HiRes (high resolution) video means video recorded with the DivX3.11a codec with the (variable) bitrate set to 6000 and crispness/smoothness set to 100. The HiRes videos are much larger files than necessary for good viewing. They are meant to convey as much of the original detail as possible.


    The First Plane Hitting The North Tower (13 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x408) Copy.
    Video taken while waiting to enter the Brooklyn Tunnel (0.8 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 360x240).


    Plane Hitting South Tower. View from south (10 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x472) Copy.
    View from north-east (4.9 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 716x480) Copy.
    View from north (13 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x472) Copy.
    View from east (1.2 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x356) Copy.
    Close view from east (1.3 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x356) Includes the "911 In Plane Site" flash. Copy.
    Another view from north (0.8 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x356) Copy.
    Short view from north-east (1.2 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 696x472) Copy.
    Longer view from north-east (2.8 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 716x480) Copy.


    Video one of the WTC North Tower demolition (2 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 492x408) Copy.
    Video two of the WTC North Tower demolition (5.6 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 716x480).
    Video three of the WTC North Tower demolition (0.5 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 676x408).
    Video four of the WTC North Tower demolition (13 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x472) Copy.
    Premature Detonations in North Tower Demolition. (4.8 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 692x472).
    North Tower Premature Detonations (Marked) (2.8 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.1

    I actually hppened across

    I actually hppened across this blog by accident, but having read some of theposts here, and this one in particular, it is marvelous to see the 9/11 incidents kept alive like this. Its a credit to those who died and suffered, those who have been affected (pretty much the vast majority of the world's population in one way or another) and those who have endeavoured to save lives.

    Thank you for the 9/11 blog!

    from a grateful Brit'

    I agree with the poster who

    I agree with the poster who says that our government will, unfortunately, not be in any real danger due to the fact that most Americans are afraid to act. EXACTLY. They are afraid because they will lose everything they hold dear (i.e., convenience, security, and having to feed/clothe/shelter kids and family). They will not act on the knowledge because the American people couldn't revolt their way out of a thin plastic bubble.

    The only thing the American people know is how to satisfy their gluttonous appetite for STUFF, STUFF, and MORE STUFF. Fast food, video game consoles and the violent games that go with it, TV, a payraise so they can buy more, and more TV. They're idiots of the very highest order, and their lifelong psychosocial programming will prevent them from doing anything truly revolutionary. Americans LOVE living in the dark. For them, ignorance truly IS bliss. Think about it....if Americans really WANTED to be free, they would have taken the necessary, dangerous, and painful risks long ago. Americans are not READY to change. Only after they are imprisoned, beaten, interrogated, and worse will they understand what is really happening. By then, it will simply be too late.

    I work in a college campus cafeteria , and the students who come in to eat are COMPLETE ASSES. They are so stupid that their pens could outwit them. They feed their faces with huge portions of food, and there are people who are incredibly obese. These are going to be the future of our country---meaning we really don't HAVE a future. All they want to do is eat and get drunk, eat and get drunk, eat and get drunk. They don't give a DAMN about what is going on, and they wouldn't do anything even if they knew.

    I HOPE this C-SPAN presentation DOES change people's hearts, and I HOPE positive revolutionary changes begin to occur, but knowing the American people like I do, I would strongly advise you not to overestimate the stupidity of Americans, especially ones in large groups with kids and a split-level home.

    I am not particularly

    I am not particularly impressed by the arguments against the demolition of the two main towers. (and, of course, obviously with respect to bldg. 7) The 'structual engineer' is in a small minority - of perhaps one - with respect to engineer's statements I've read (not including govt. spokesmen). The pancake theory is in contradiction to the empirical data now available.
    I am a neuropsychologist and neuroscientist and I can certainly review the data as a critical scientist and the evidence clearly indicates the government is covering up their own complicity.

    And yes, there is a hell of a lot of evidence of complicity with respect to other aspects of 911. It doesn't take genius to see what has happened. Even David Griffin, a very astute 'conservative' philosopher of theology and religion came to the same conclusions -- conclusions he did not want to come to.

    I am so excited after

    I am so excited after viewing Griffin's presentation. He is so intelligent and did an excellent job of research, organization, writing, presentation. Very impressive.

    While watching his lecture, an ancient Greek word/concept came into my mind - hubris - the arrogant pride of the great man who over-values his abilities/power and becomes careless/misjudges and that is his downfall.

    This black op/psy op against the American people by its own (sic) govt. was carelessly done, the carelessness of those who (or whose predecessors)have successfully pulled off so many similar outrageous ops in broad daylight - with the complicity of the lapdog press, of course - (JFK & RFK assassinations, OKC, all the drugs being brought into the country by the CIA and others in govt. and so many other 'high crimes and misdemeanors' of a treasonable nature)that they have an attitude: 'We can-do-anything-we-damn-well-please-because we-operate-above/outside-the law.'

    It is arrogance, for sure. Is it hubris? Have they finally gone too far? Are the inert public finally waking up & smelling the coffee and getting some guts and dusting off their moral principles? Are there elements within the current power structure here or abroad who might finally be willing to 'oppose the wrong' (for whatever motives, even those of a competing power-clique seeking to take advantage of the blunder of a rival for top o' the dung heap hedgemony)? The usurpers managed to pull off OKC and it must have made them feel that 'the sky is the limit...' Is it? Stay tuned...

    Speaking of staying tuned, go to and scroll down to archives and listen to the 4 shows in April with guest host Ted Gunderson on THE FRANKLIN COVER-UP and related matters(CIA/military/ high govt mind control ops, torture, pedophilia) ... these are excellent programs and anyone who cares about children needs to know about these doings...

    I have a 9mb audio file

    I sent an email to Michael

    I sent an email to Michael Moore, What Really Happened and Raw Story imploring them to watch the video and post the link to this website to theirs. Not expecting much, but made the effort.

    This video is extremely important but it goes back to the falling tree in the forest ... is their noise when know one is around to hear it fall?

    I suspect David Ray Griffin

    I suspect David Ray Griffin is a straw man who will be used to discredit calls for further 9-11 investigations. His assertion that the pancake theory is not valid is ridiculous, especially since that is apparently exactly how the buildings collapsed if you watched TV on 9-11. The "47" interior columns would have toppled as the floors collapsed. Unbraced columns do not stand up by themselves. The "convenient lengths" of the columns is likely due to the length that they were fabricated and shipped for construction. There was much Griffin said that was wrong. He is either ignorant or purposefully misleading as far as the structural failure is concerned, which is the only part of his lecture I listened to. I could go on but I'm supposed to be working. The BFEE may have had a hand in bringing down the towers or intentionally let it happen, they certainly have used it to their benefit, but there is nothing wrong with the pancake theory of collapse.

    -anonymous structural engineer

    I'm so glad more people are

    I'm so glad more people are distributing media from this lecture. The 150MB+ file may be large, but I myself have split the lecture into two even files (80MB x2), should anyone be interested. The downside is that I use Yousendit to transfer the files, so once a quota has been reached, I'd have to reupload, but hopefully those who download the split files will post it up in a server of their own or something.

    If all of us would

    If all of us would distribute this video to 10 people we care about who still cannot fathom that our govt would commit such an atrocity... My girlfriend, an extremely intelligent lawyer and the sweetest person in the world is one of those with their head fixed squarely in the sand. I sent her the video this a.m. and she promises to watch.

    And also send the video to people we also care about who happen to be Bush supporters... perhaps someone can edit the video and put a Fox News logo on it so they will watch it. :-)

    Info on how to use the

    Info on how to use the bittorrent feed would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    man.. i hope airamerica does

    man.. i hope airamerica does keep referencing it.. i havent listened to his show before, but i will check it out.

    here are linked links:

    get in touch!

    next is to get in touch with Janeane Garofalo to get in touch with John Stewart to have an interview with Griffin.. he does interviews with authors all the time.. this is definately feasible.

    Mike Malloy of AirAmerica

    Mike Malloy of AirAmerica radio mentioned the fact that David Ray Griffin's Madison WI speech will be re - aired on C-Span this coming Saturday, at 2:30PM e.s.t..He said this past Monday or Tuesday that he will "definitely" try to get Professor Griffin on his program, which airs from 10PM to 1AM e.s.t., and can be streamed at, or check out Malloy's archives at white I urge those of us who care about getting this issue into the mainstream, to call Mr. Malloy, and encourage him to follow up on his promise!

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    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider donating something, anything you can to this blog, so this blogger will be able to keep these files up FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. It is ESSENTIAL we get this lucid, most salient of arguements for 9/11 being an inside job to as WIDE an audence as possible.

    I predict people are going to be FLOODING this site to get this video, and it would be an utter SHAME if it were to go down due to bandwith issues.

    Here's another great 9/11 related blog I visit:

    Regarding the pancake

    Regarding the pancake theory, if each floor slammed into a lower floor hard enough to pulverize the concrete to dust, the whole building wouldn't have fallen at freefall speeds.

    What happened that day was impossible, unless explosives were involved.

    sorry dz. my BS meter went

    sorry dz. my BS meter went off the chart with that self-proclaimed "engineer". i apologize.
    here is a link to an excellent repository of 9/11 related interviews. some, with actual engineers even. ;-)

    Thank you for your work on

    Thank you for your work on sharing this talk and encouraging it's distribution. I promise to take the information and spread it in every direction possible in order to help educate the public. That cspan will be airing it is a big lift to the spirits of those of us who have felt so frustrated in trying to talk openly about what really happened then and has continued to happen ever since.

    Thanks a lot for making this

    Thanks a lot for making this available. A great presentation -- I'm going to show this to some of my more politically naive friends. It seems more clear, compelling, and incontrovertible than most of the 9/11 videos I've seen. And while Griffin's book (The New Pearl Harbor) is still sitting, mostly unread, on my bookshelf, this video I watched in a little over an hour.

    Thanks for the service in

    Thanks for the service in bringing this to the web! Linked up over on All Spin Zone.

    150mb is going to be too large for many people, but I'm hoping by publicizing it, you're able to drive even more people to watch on Saturday.

    Thanks for your blog site

    Thanks for your blog site and great Thanks to Mr Griffin for a job well done.

    Truth is beauty, beauty Truth.

    Thanks pal, You did a great

    Thanks pal, You did a great job and a great service.......maddog

    Thanks so much for making a

    Thanks so much for making a copy of the David Ray Griffin video. I have added a link to your blog on my web site which is
    If there is anything you can do to publicize my web site I would greatly appreciate it. I have many articles and links to streaming videos regarding the lies of 9/11.

    Thanks very much for this

    Thanks very much for this important piece of info! I think "they" got to it though as I can only download the 25mb portion. The link from Mparent jumps over to a page that says series unavailable- unless you reload it to here. Somebody's upset I suspect. Go figure...

    The "-anonymous structural

    The "-anonymous structural engineer" is talking out of his/her ass...and he/she knows it.

    47, 2" thick core columns don't just vaporize into thin air. Nothing...NOTHING in the official story, NOR in the 9/11 Omission Report explains how EVERY ONE of the 47 Colulmns managed to fail...all at the same time.

    Please...prove me wrong. Find in in the "official" distortion report...if you can.

    an 8th grader with a double-digit IQ and a set of encyclopedias knows the "official" story is a J O K E. why don't you?

    Tom-- Oregon Measured,

    Tom-- Oregon

    Measured, reasoned. Most sensible correlation of physical laws (gravity, chemistry) and architecture and history that I have seen. Essentially unassailable evidence for government complicity. And yet....

    Fortunately for the Regime, only a few will listen to him. And most of those who do will be afraid to act on the knowledge.

    The vast majority of people do what their TV sets tell them to do. They have decided that that is the safest source of truth. Doubting the government is extremely dangerous. To your mental health, if not to your physical safety.

    watch out for any hateful

    watch out for any hateful speech please, there are quite a few who do not beleive in demolition of the WTC who are members of the 9/11 truth movement..

    personally WTC7 is what makes me lean towards demolition theories, however that should by no means be the entire basis for anyone who questions 9/11..

    what gets me is the freefall speed collapses which occurred.. just doing a calculation of galileo's law of falling bodies will show that the collapses experienced virtually no resistance at all from the lower 70+ floors which were undamaged.. factoring in only air resistance adds a second or two, 70+ floors of solid structure would have added massive resistance to the collapse..

    a great example of this is the very minor partial collapse that occured in the madrid skyscraper in february of 2005.. a building which was on fire for over 24hrs straight, and a massive fire too.. you can find a quick reference to these in these two posts here:

    in any event, avoid any hateful language, and thanks for the comments everyone :)

    I am saddened to hear that

    I am saddened to hear that mr. griffin, as a "christian" is attacking President Bush. Christ modeled for us mercy, not judgment, He alone is judge. When we seek to expose others we are on dangerous ground. Ecclesiastes 10:20 says "curse not the king, not even in your thought." God puts our "kings" or authorities over us, whether they be right or wrong, whether they be Godly or tyrants. We are not to rise against, but trust God as our defender and protection. Peter wrote to the Christians in Caesar Nero's day (who lit them on fire as human candles saying "light of the world!") "Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king as supreme; or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: ...Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king. Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward." 1 Peter 2:13-18

    But who cares about the Bible anymore anyway? Does God's Word have any relevance to America today? Should it still be followed? I am extremely grieved that a man who confesses to be a Christian will war so much against what God says. Only God knows our own hearts, only God knows the heart of President Bush. Mr. Griffin will only have one person to give account for when he meets his "lord"...his own life. I pray that he would be restored and be cleansed from this spirit of hostility.

    Linda, When you have time,


    When you have time, read this;