Out of Town Open Thread

I will be out of town until late Friday night. I will have internet access, but I'm not sure what exactly my abilities will be while I am gone. I will do my best to stay on top of things, but I won't be answering emails.

Please post any articles here which I might miss!

Yo here's one site I found,

Yo here's one site I found, pretty good info;

Three World Wars

it's not really 911-truthy

it's not really 911-truthy per se, but I do like this free online e-book, "The Police State Road Map"


Thanks y'all! In the last 3

Thanks y'all!

In the last 3 minutes of C-Span's presentation of Nafeez Ahmed's "War on Truth", co-founder of 911citizenswatch.org John Judge said to google "Strategy of Tension":


Frank... thanks... I've been

Frank... thanks... I've been meaning to do that, but I forgot all about it.

Hey guys: this is the

"co-founder of

"co-founder of 911citizenswatch.org John Judge" sings from the same hymn book as the 9/11 Commission when it comes to whether or not a 757 hit the Pentagon, and even whether the 9/11 Commission should have included the government's own video evidence in (and which was omitted from) the government's complete and final 9/11 report!

Hey blimp pilot, he's a

Hey blimp pilot, he's a friend of mine, and someone I will defend until the cows come home. Do you know he WROTE the "9/11 Omission Report" that was released after the "9/11 Report"? Do you know how much time, money, and effort he put into that? John Judge is a GOOD MAN, and anyone that talks bad about him is an idiot in my book.

Sibel Edmonds on Democracy

Sibel Edmonds on Democracy Now today - main thrust of the thing is her Vanity Fair piece and teh question "Did Speaker Hastert Accept Turkish Bribes to Deny Armenian Genocide and Approve Weapons Sales?" - but also gets some mentions of 9-11 and such.


Guns and Butter tonight has

Guns and Butter tonight has more from the Lafayette (sp?) Park rally at the DC Truth Convergence.

Archive will be available here in the next two hours or so.


Get ready to cringe with

Get ready to cringe with embarrassment and/or explode with anger...

Pentagon announces September 11 concert

The Pentagon would hold a massive march and country music concert to mark the fourth anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks, US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in an announcement tucked into an Iraq war briefing today.

"This year the Department of Defence will initiate an America Supports Your Freedom Walk," Rumsfeld said, adding that the march would remind people of "the sacrifices of this generation and of each previous generation".

The march will start at the Pentagon, where nearly 200 people died on September 11, 2001, and end at the National Mall with a show by country star Clint Black.


For those who have (luckily) never heard Clint Black - you can download his unintentionally hilarious pro-war
diatribe Iraq & I Roll song here:


Hey Jonathan Gold, I did not

Hey Jonathan Gold,

I did not 'talk bad' about your chum, I just pointed out that he sings, chapter and verse, from the exact same hymn book as did the 9/11 Commission when it comes to whether or not to even consider any evidence suggestive of even the possibility that it was not a 757 which hit the Pentagon because there are "sufficient" witnesses which said that they thought it was a 757. (nevermind who some of them turned out to be)

That is not the attitude or statement of an honest competent investigator, and it is shared by both the 9/11 Commission and John Judge. (Just a coincidence? That's for each of us to judge for ourselves. Once we notice it, that is.)

This 'coincidence' is a fact which is not altered in the least by who is friends with whom, though perhaps perceptions are.

So, please correct me: how much time and money and effort and pages did John Judge put into pointing out that the 9/11 Commission Report totally omitted all mention of the 5 Pentagon Video Frames (evidence which had come from within the U.S. government itself!)?

If you want to see a good, concise 9/11 Omission Report, one which goes where the limited-hangout disinfo agents permeating the 911 truth movement fear to tread, just click on this sentence.

there are alot of people out

there are alot of people out there who avoid certain subjects, subjects that they seem to consider 'taboo' for one reason or another.. if we wrote off everyone who avoids said subjects we would miss out on alot of very valuable information.

i think it is more than reasonable to demand full disclosure about flight 77 including the videos, what the opinions are as to whether it was or wasnt flight 77 is just that, an opinion..

i dont want to see the ppl on this forum arguing over the opinions on subjects that others take, because obviously it doesnt get us anywhere, and obviously everyone is entitled to their opinions.

instead i want to stay focused on some type of unity in the search for full disclosure and truth, at least that is something we can all agree on.. feel free to continue your discussion, just try to keep it friendly guys..

Wicked New video called

Wicked New video called “You are being lied to…”


dz, you're very inclusive

dz, you're very inclusive here, and that's good. I am not trying to be exclusive or divisive or unfriendly, just logical in my approach and in my dot-connecting (which includes noticing the missing dots):

On the one hand, we have the government, frightened to death over the true meaning of the 5 Pentagon Video Frames, which they released, becoming widely known. That's why the 9/11 Commission Report omitted the government's own evidence, the only visual physical evidence we've ever been provided of whatever supposedly hit the Pentagon! This is a huge smoking gun; perhaps the most notable omission of all.

On the other hand, we have John Judge, a supposed leader of the 911 truth movement, unwilling to discuss the very government evidence, or its omission, with which we can hoist the crooked anti-Constitutional government by its own petard.

Not only do I find that illogical, and Hegelian, but I do not understand how you can apply the word "taboo" (ie, a sacred prohibition, among primitive tribes, against mentioning certain things) to this remarkable 'coincidence'.

Can we at least consider the possibility that there's something very wrong with the picture in which a 911 truther is in any way 'prohibited' from mentioning what the government has publicly provided to us as 911 evidence, but now wishes for it to fall down the same memory hole as John Doe #2 after Oklahoma City?

Someday, more of us will realize what a large percentage of 911 truth sites are, intentionally or not, acting as gatekeepers.

Fintan Dunne explores the disinfo end of the pool