Has the Iraq War Made Us Safer?

Check it out, from the horses mouth itself. PNAC is pulling out the Pearl Harbor comparisons again, and making yet another pathetic attempt of linking Iraq to 9/11. Jon Gold made the following clever statement that may one day be spoken at a future 9/11 trial:

"...And on the 4th Anniversary of that dreadful day, your so called, "Think Tank" dared to legitimize your actions by comparing them to the very event that inspired you in the first place. As a way to legitimize your crime. How dare you... "


Are we as a nation safer for having invaded Iraq? Was the decision to remove Saddam from power after 9-11 a step forward in the war on terror, or not? The answer is yes.

Is the answer absolutely, yes? Of course not. Wars don't work that way. Did the decision by the country to wage war on both Japan and Germany in the wake of Pearl Harbor make the U.S. safer at first? No. Even after critical successes at Midway, in North Africa and Italy, thousands of Americans still lost their lives. The war had to be won, and the cost was high precisely because our enemies knew it was going to be a fight to the death. And Americans understood that security could not be had in a piecemeal fashion given the nature of the enemies we faced.

Similarly, we should remember that the war on terror is not just about defeating terrorists. The larger meaning of 9-11 was the recognition that the mix of terrorists seeking weapons of mass destruction with dictatorial regimes who gave them support, and who themselves had or were seeking such weapons, was potentially too dangerous a brew for the United States to take a reactive stance toward. As such, the war to be waged requires not only taking on the terrorists themselves, but also the states that give them support or, through their governance, are spawning new cadres of jihadists.

On that broad front, America's record of success has been substantial, and we are the safer for it. Both the Taliban regime of Afghanistan and Saddam's Baathist rule in Iraq are history.

The thing that infuriates me

The thing that infuriates me to no end... the date this was released. As if to say, "We were right to do what we did".

I first thought of the "9/11

I first thought of the "9/11 Trials" when I wrote this.

I always wonder: if the US

I always wonder: if the US government, the Buh-Cheney mob etcetera, were powerful enough to pull off a trick like 9/11, as you people believe, why didn't plant some WMD's in Iraq? Would have been much much easier, to much larger effect, don't you think?

Because MAYBE they keep an

Because MAYBE they keep an inventory on that kind of thing. They didn't care about what happened after they got there, just that they did.

Jon good point on

Jon good point on pnac....
They "may' have had WMD's in Iraq
but the problem is they had printed on them "made in the USA"
To all 9-11 activist ....lets call Air America out,like in poker
I have never heard anybody on Air America say...
"Bring our troops home now!"
for that matter the same goes for Democrats (most are just as bad as Bush supporters
it makes me sick)
espically when 80% of americans know that Bush adm lied
for STARTING a war with Iraq (how do i know its 80%...start asking
people and you will find out)
Now back to 9-11
When Randi Rhodes was here in WPB FL i called her a least
once a week and talked nothing but 9-11 to where in Dec 2003
She (Randi Rhodes) said on the radio that the Bush adm Knew and Let
9-11 Happen....
Randi and I share a couple things in common, one is we both
have watched the JFK movie by Oliver Stone at least 15 times....
So my question to you Randi Rhodes are you gonna suppress the
TRUTH of 9-11 on YOUR watch....I would never have thought
so when you were here in WPB.
Randi alot has changed since i last talk to you.
For instance it has not even been a year that i got my first 9-11 DVD, 9-11 IN
PLANE SITE, and all the others since then that i make copys and hand
them out like candy,
Now me and Millions of Americans know the Bush adm
that Number is increasing every day, i see to that myself,
Randi Rhodes are you Schill or are you gonna See David Ray Griffin speech/lecture in NYC
on Oct. 15th and then give as much air time to him so that he can tell his story.
Randi you will never do a more important interview in your life.( and you know it Randi)
i'm not gonna give out her email address, us 9-11 activist know how to do get it...LOL LOL
peace,paul weber
ps you people in the MSM (main stream media) you F**king Suck
and there is blood on your hands....you all better hope there is no GOD






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