Weekend Grab Bag

Check out the size of the steel columns in this World Trade Center PBS documentary. View this documentary before it is mysteriously removed. A transcript is also available:

Do the orders still stand? I've seen transcripts of this statement, but hadn't seen the actual video until now:

Are members of the 9/11 commission finally growing a backbone? (Thanks to Awoken Research Group):

“The flames of extremism undoubtedly burn more brightly when we are the ones who deliver the gasoline,”


Have something to say about 9/11? Write an article about it while you still can. They can't watch us all:

Massive collection of 9/11 related videos:

Can you explain what the

Can you explain what the order-thing is all about and how it is important?

The order is relevant

The order is relevant because it makes it clear that the they were tracking an inbound aircraft that was hijacked, and that Cheney was giving the orders...

were the orders to allow the flight to continue? Were they to stand down the Pentagon missile systems?

Its a question we will not get a factual answer to unless Cheney is supoenaed.

Intuitively, we really know what it means. Let the attack proceed.

Here's a great article about

Here's a great article about Mineta's testimony.


If they were growing a

If they were growing a "backbone", they would have accepted this challenge.

it looks like they are

it looks like they are trying to counter the 911 truth movement with some propaganda:


they're trying to further cement the official account of 911 into the american culture. films like these will probably make it harder to spread 911 truth. We should protest or hand out literature outside the movie theaters when they show locally.

It's amazing that the

It's amazing that the commission and even Mineta attempts to play as if this order meant a shoot down order. That is totally absurd considering the fact that the "plane" hit the pentagon! As previous post mentioned that the proof is there that they tracked it and yet despite the so called "shoot down order" the "plane" crashed into the most vacant section of the pentegon killing mostly accountants. Just one day after Rumsfeld announced trillions of dollars were missing and unaccounted for. Conveniently forgotten and those whom would have had knowledge of he missing loot (the accountants) are dead.

BUT WHAT THE HELL ARE WE TO DO ABOUT IT? We know the truth at least enough of it backed by enough obvious proof of a cover up by the complicit media. I think something must be done very soon or they may reach the point where they will rule until society crumbles which will eventually occur but I can't imagine how long that will take. I am certain its about time for them to conduct yet another deadly attack on us and to blame it probably on us truth seekers as they round us all up and squashing dissent for good. They have already made clear the plans for them to initiate marshall law at the onset of another attack.

Check this out, it's the

Check this out, it's the full Giuliani clip with him saying the full word "collapse" rather then "collap" in the cut version.


Good job Dem Bruce! Great

Good job Dem Bruce! Great clip find.

What I don't understand is

What I don't understand is why can't someone model a WTC tower in a physics program and see what happens when you run some simulations?

N, the problem with that is

N, the problem with that is that there are simply no construction drawings or blueprints available anymore. I know a lot of people were after these drawings, but the government won't give out copies for 'security reasons'.

Maybe it's a good idea to run physics simulations on similar buildings, i.e. Empire State Building or the Sears Tower, as for these buildings there probably are blueprints available.

Wow, yet another item that

Wow, yet another item that would only NOT have been released if they had something to hide.

But still, things like this should be enough for a reasonable model, no?

Because if those models give

Because if those models give us completely different results (and that they will), it can be shown on some smaller newsstations so the blueprints can be demanded.

Also, where are all the controlled demolition experts from around the world? Why aren't we hearing anything from them?

Some of the best 911

Some of the best 911 articles in 2005.Mind you theres a lot more...peace,pw

TVNL Editor's Comments: Today(11-22-05) is the anniversary of the murder of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. President Kennedy's murder stands as an example of how a coup can take place in America, how a conspiracy to conduct a coup can work and how successful the cover up can be.

For those of you who do not think that the Bush/PNAC administration could have conducted a coup by rigging elections and you do not think an atrocity like 9/11 could contain the fingerprints of insiders, read your history books. Today is the anniversary of the prime example of the fact that conspiracies and cover-ups take place in America, even if it means killing Americans. Never forget that! Think about it! - Jesse, Editor, TvNewsLIES.org

The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie (completely discredits & dismantles OUR Govt 9-11 story...pw)
by Dr. David Ray Griffin
Sunday, May 22, 2005

Former Bush Team Member Says WTC Collapse Likely A Controlled Demolition And 'Inside Job'
By Greg Szymanski

Former Asst. Sec. Of Treasury Under Reagan Doubts Official 9/11 Story; Claims Neo Con Agenda Is As 'Insane As Hitler And Nazi Party When They Invaded Russia In Dead Of Winter'
By Greg Szymanski

FBI Claims 84 Videos
Show NO Flight 77 Impact
By Jon Carlson

Steven E. Jones, Brigham Young Physics Professor, Thinks Bombs, Not Planes, Toppled WTC

9/11, Iraq & PNAC - The Connection is Clear & Undeniable

9-11 Bottom Line: Explosives in the WTC
by Victor Thorn

A Personal Decision
By Kevin Ryan
June 9th 2005

TvNewsLIES Challenges Believers of the Official Version of 9/11:
Where the Hell Is YOUR Proof?
"In the late 1990’s members of the Project for a New American Century wrote a treatise in which they foresaw a strategic “transformation” of the U.S. military into an imperialistic force of global domination that would require a huge increase in defense spending. “The process of transformation,” the plan said, “is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.” The members of this group, known as PNAC, were appointed to many high level positions in the new Bush administration. Only months after they came to power, the United States experienced a new Pearl Harbor. That has never been publicized or explained as anything other than mere coincidence...."

There are many great websites that prove the Bush adminstration PLANNED
ORCHESTRATED 9-11...heres a few of them...peace,pw


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are learning the truth about 9-11.
And the truth is that the Bush adminstration Planned and Orchestrated 9-11
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I have to laugh - a tragic

I have to laugh - a tragic laugh though - when I hear that the government cannot give out the blueprints and plans for the WTC. It's already gone, I can't see one reason for them not to release them unless...and of course this is why...something in them discredits the official story.

just like the Pentagon tapes seized, just like the OKC bombing tapes seized.

Pure gov't culpability.

Great find on that Guiliani

Great find on that Guiliani tape Bruce Lee!!!

Regarding the Mineta video,

Regarding the Mineta video, remember, supposedly they lost track of 77 for a period of time when suddenly something showed up on radar a short distance from the Pentagon and hit.

Based on this, Mineta's testimony directly contradicts the official story, since it is quite clear they tracked the incoming plane for some time before it actually hit.

somebigguy, please email me

somebigguy, please email me at

muaddib67 hotmail.com

I have a 911 ebook I have written I'd like submit for your consideration to host here, 245 pages, 40 pages of which is citations.


I beleive that there are

I beleive that there are suffiecent amt of americans that see thru there smoke and mirrors and if they stage anouther attack witch I beleive they will soon, My question is who will go along with a draft to go to Iran I sure as hell won't. They may call a draft for war with Iran but, who the hell will show up ?

Rebel, can't wait to read!

Rebel, can't wait to read!

Hey Rebel, looking forward

Hey Rebel, looking forward to it, email has been sent...

email on the way soon,

email on the way soon, coverting to pdf the latest revision.

Sent the ebook to your yahoo

Sent the ebook to your yahoo address. thanks, hope u enjoy