We all know how good cousins are to have around.

http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/11/15/ellis/

http://www.popularmechanics.com/marketing/1100892.html

Benjamin Chertoff
Research Editor

Cousin of Michael Chertoff

and you know, i never really thought too much about it before, but the fact that Popular Mechanics sees fit to run a piece about "Katrina Myths" makes me think the levees just might have been blown up. now i highly doubt it personally, but the simple fact that P.M. bothers makes me think.

No idea. I seem to remember hearing about how Chertoff's something or other is the editor?

do you have any idea who their parent company is though?

Thanks Chris!

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8353

so S.King, i noticed you failed to answer my simple question as usual. wanna try again? here goes:do you feel like The 9/11 Commission Report did its job? did the Commssion follow every lead and ask every tough question? are you happy with the final report?very basic, simple questions, try not to think too hard.

left hand corner, sorry.

I'm having problems with digg... I can't vote on anything...

Consider it dugg sir.

http://digg.com/movies/BYU_PhysProf_Steven_Jones_9_11_pres-Official_Stor...

There I did it, hurry up and get it DUGG!

Go Fetzer!

In other news...

OK, 911 experts... how many factual errors in this article?

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/P56A.html

Someone way more versed than I in the Secure air zones around the Capitol pointed out three.

S.King, i try not to talk to you, i just dont like shills very much,and i know for a fact i have NEVER discussed evidence of any kind with you. i find you highly suspicious and annoying, but beyond that i havent said much to you. thanks for noticing me though.

The Central Intelligence Agency has issued a statement categorically denying that it ever had any relationship with Osama bin Laden. It stated, in response to the hypothetical question "Has the CIA ever provided funding, training, or other support to Usama Bin Laden?":

"No. Numerous comments in the media recently have reiterated a widely circulated but incorrect notion that the CIA once had a relationship with Usama Bin Laden. For the record, you should know that the CIA never employed, paid, or maintained any relationship whatsoever with Bin Laden (emphasis in original)."

In summary:

• U.S. covert aid went to the Afghans, not to the "Afghan Arabs."

• The "Afghan Arabs" were funded by Arab sources, not by the United States.

• United States never had "any relationship whatsoever" with Osama bin Laden.

• The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Arab backing for the "Afghan Arabs," and bin Laden's own decisions "created" Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, not the United States.

HAHAHAHAHHAHA,thats my favorite.well if the CIA said it,it must be true, HAHAHAHHAHAH.

yeah, im actually checking that stuff out right now.hilarious indeed.

Jon Gold wrote...

"Why don't you respect his wishes, and promote 9/11 Truth,..."

The Professional wrote....

"Then I propose that the source of this infighting be banned. By source I mean S. King."

On the homepage of this site:

"All comments are welcome! but please avoid hate speech and profanity, and use references when possible."

"911blogger.com does not seek to push any specific 'theories' about 9/11, but rather seeks to cover 9/11 related 'alternative' news. As such all readers should do their own research and develop their own opinions on the news and information covered."

That about covers much my participation in getting to the truth about 9/11.

Even though it seems to bother some who apparently don't like some evidence. Look at Chris, for example.

i just noticed Popular Mechanics had an issue called:Debunking Katrina Myths.goddamn, that magazine never stops serving its government.who is their parent company?

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2006/Jan/20-672210.html

i know most of you have probably seen this before, but its too friggin ironic, i had to post it again.

Chris... ever see this?

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6396

or this...

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1647

(emotion is not intended to be read here, just cold facts)

Reminder: WING TV, the duo who recently labeled 911Truth as "war criminals" and has slandered most decent 9-11 reseachers and activists.

At the very tail end of Monday's (2-12-06) WING TV friendly interview, "Scholar's for 911 Truth" representative James Fetzer thanked patriots Victor and Lisa for doing "a lot of good for the 911 truth movement".

James also praised 9-11 on Trial, and promoted Loose Change and In Plane site as the best dvd educational tools.

(Monday's Fetzer interview is still in the today's show section of WINGTV.net)

Jon, check "remember my info" so you stay logged in!

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8352

Hi All,
This was posted at Loose Change 2 Forum by Ram Time, everyone who has read it has expressed it is a "MUST READ"! Please take the few minutes to read it and you'll understand that this is great and must be passed on to everyone. Make copies, send emails, but please do something if this article makes you "THINK". It's time the "TRUTH" be known!!! The rest of the world "KNOWS" what happened that terrible day, this is "OUR COUNTRY" open your minds and think!!!!!! Thank You Scaffold Rider

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You sat for hours on September 11th 2001 watching the events unfold. You watched the towers collapse into their own footprint; perfectly, symmetrically and totally. But something was odd. You could not put your finger on it but something was definitely strange about the whole attack. From the airplanes (or lack there of) to the late response of military fighter jets to the complete and total collapse looking much like a controlled demolition.

However a few hours later after the FBI had a good lead on the case and you heard the song, "Proud To Be An American" 30 or 40 times everything began to make sense.

Still a bit puzzled on how the hijackers could plant bombs throughout both towers it was quickly realized that all of the booms and bangs that were reported by those on the scene didn't actually happen. So you didn't have to worry about those cumbersome reports of explosions, bombs and detonating charges anymore.

You tried to forget that you really did not see an airplane at the pentagon however you saw the fire and smoke and you were told that a plane had crashed there.

You remember that some silly reporter was foolish enough to make a statement publicly saying that "no plane had crashed anywhere near the pentagon."

Then there was that crater where flight 93 crashed straight into the ground at 500 miles per hour and damned if you could see any pieces of airplane there either. What was happening here?

There was a hole in the ground about 15 feet deep and 30 feet wide. There is smoke coming from the hole where the airplane crashed. Your common sense told you that for a legitimate airplane crash there needs to be an airplane. I mean you can not have a car crash without a car so it just figured that airplane crashes would involve an airplane. Just one airplane would be enough to legitimize the airplane crash. To make matters worse there was that reporter again making the statement publicly that there were no pieces of airplane at the airplane crash site. Rats!

You knew that what ever happened on that flight was heroic. "Lets Roll" heard over a cell phone from 32,000 feet was a little easier to believe then another plane missing from an airplane crash site. Its a good thing we have such competent FBI agents otherwise these questions may have lingered around taking up a good portion of the common sense areas in our minds.

You wondered, why did those damned Arabs do this in the first place? What would cause these kamikaze Arabs to take their own life and the lifeÂ’s of innocent Americans?

Well its a good thing the president knew cause I sure didn't have a clue, Furthermore, if I tried to guess I probably would have come up with a theory lacking substance befitting of the crime.

But the President was there with answers.

"America is the brightest beacon for freedom in the world".
"They hate Americas freedom!"

There you see? A perfectly reasonable explanation.
ThatÂ’s why he's the president.
Mystery solved.

Furthermore Osama must be much happier with the U.S. now because we have done plenty about the freedom problem we were having over here. Notwithstanding our history teachers interpretation of the constitution we didn't realize that "the constitution is just a god damned piece of paper" as our president in shining armor has recently taught us.

Returning to the FBI agents, lets not forget about the job that the FBI did. Wow! Fast! unreal, I mean really unreal. Think about it; these FBI agents knew exactly which flight school(s) to investigate. Damn they are good.

Indeed, at an almost eerie pace, photos of Osama Bin Laden were everywhere.

Sometime late in the afternoon of September 11th another building nearly half the height of the twin towers fell to the ground. Though it was not hit by an airplane or had any significant fires in it, another perfectly reasonable explanation for its collapse was told to us by reporters.

"Because of the devastation earlier today World Trade Center Building number 7 collapsed."

There you see? Another perfectly reasonable explanation. Obviously the building was heart broken due to earlier events.

The President knew Osama had to be behind this attack because decades ago Osama attacked other Americans in other lands and not once did he fail to take the credit. Furthermore he hates Americas freedom. What more evidence do you need?

Osama denied and denounced the attacks of 911 but lets not get caught up in rhetoric regarding the fact that he has always claimed responsibility in the past. Indeed he tried to trick us by denying the attacks. Furthermore we said he did it and by God that means he did it!

As you watched in anger, you talked about what we should do when we caught Osama Bin Laden. You couldn't pass by a September eleventh collection fund without dropping at least a buck into the kitty.

The administration asked you to immediately support a war against terror and a war against the Taliban government. The President gave you a choice. Two choices as a matter of fact.

The choices were, "Your either with us, or your with the terrorists."

Now I didn't need any help from the president on this choice, I just did what everyone else did, I accepted the only choice there was. We are with you Mr. President. Let's bomb em!

The Taliban, (after muttering "Is it October already?") refused to extradite Osama bin Laden and all other Al-Qaeda leaders that were based in Afghanistan to the United States without evidence. However, the Taliban did agree to extradite to an Islamic country.

To my simple mind this seemed like a fair offering but again that's why I'm not the president.

The white house responded only like the white house can. No! Were not going to provide evidence when we can just come and bomb you. We may loose a few hundred maybe a thousand American soldiers and kill twenty or thirty thousand Muslims but asking a democratic country for evidence involving criminal activity is, well, well, we need to bomb you just for being so naive.

In other words the Taliban had two choices either we were going to bomb them or we were going to drop bombs on them.

That evidence was not given and a coalition led by the United States launched an invasion in to Afghanistan on October 7. Secretary of State Condelezza Rice said, "The U.S. has evidence of Bin LadenÂ’s role in terrorists acts that it will present in due time". Its February 2006, No Osama Bin Laden, No Evidence except for the following absurd story:

19 Islamic hijackers entered the United States, some of the hijackers left parts of their applications blank, some with no specific reason to be in the United States, some with destinations such as hotels.

These hijackers then moved freely about the country obtaining pilots licenses and learning to fly. Somehow these hijackers learned how to fly and navigate these jumbo jets without the aid of air traffic controllers.

These hijackers have no record of purchasing tickets, do not show up on the flight manifest nor are they listed in any autopsies report.

None of the American pilots or co-pilots or navigators on any of the 4 flights thought to send a distress signal while these hijackers were beating down the cockpit doors.

The hijackers were somehow able to get through locked cockpit doors and with nothing except razor blades, plastic knives and/or box cutters these amazing Arab pilots took control of all 4 airplanes even though some of the American pilots that gave up their airplanes had a military background.

Indeed, the hijackers were a perfect 4 out of 4 in take-aways.

The carefully worded 911 commission report would lead you to believe that they lost flight 77 from radar for 40 minutes because the hijackers turned off the transponder.

They hope you do not realize that turning off the transponder does not cause the flight traffic controllers or the military air defense system to lose an airplane for 40 minutes especially when they are looking for it.

Notwithstanding that the Pentagon is ringed by anti-missile batteries, which are programmed to destroy any aircraft entering the PentagonÂ’s airspace, except for any aircraft with a US military transponder. and if Flight 77 had entered the PentagonÂ’s airspace, it could have escaped being shot down only if officials in the Pentagon had deactivated its anti-aircraft defenses. This Pilot somehow out smarted this missile battery.

The Arab pilots had enough skill to fly close to the ground without anyone hearing the loud roaring jet engines. Engines that are powerful enough to have blown automobiles off of the roadways as they roared over.

It is important to understand that the official conspiracy theory does not show (as one would think) flight 77 diving into the pentagon.

The official conspiracy theory holds that flight 77 flew parallel to the ground just inches above the grass and slammed into the ground floor.

In other words, if the pentagon had not been in the path of the aircraft the pilot could have simply pulled back on the yoke and regained altitude.

These are some amazing piloting skills. To think your going to hit a cement wall at 500 miles an hour in just a few seconds and your able to keep a steady hand.

Even as you hate these Arab Pilots one

Everytime I try to vote it asks me to login, even if I'm already logged in.

I've noticed that this site is becoming an "infighting" extravaganza.

I know that's not what dz intended this place to be.

Why don't you respect his wishes, and promote 9/11 Truth, and working towards that goal rather than fight amongst yourselves.

Then I propose that the source of this infighting be banned. By source I mean S. King.

i agree with Pro. the guy is like a broken record. every post is:Steven Jones is a moron, the government is telling the truth.