Late Night Open Thread

Jeez, been a busy week eh? It has been kind of tough to keep track of all the emails we've been getting lately, so please forgive us if we didn't get back to your email..

I am working on some changes here in the layout, and I'm adding blogads as well thanks to a recent invite from another blog. We are also getting closer to putting our side project out there for people to play with, hopefully we will have more on this in the next week or two..

I am a lot more disposed with work than usual, so sorry if the updates haven't been as frequent or timely as they should (but I guess work is a necessary evil eh?). Luckily the commenters here are always on top of things. Btw, if you have something you think we might want to cover be sure to send it in via the contact links on the left, otherwise we might miss it in the comments!

Open thread, have at it!

mike malloy is on a rant

mike malloy is on a rant about this UAE scandal.. apparently Rumsfeld got a question about it and he didnt comment because he says he didnt know about it until last weekend.. but the bush administration said the deal got the go ahead from the security and military officials..

have to check that out.. that could blow that story up.

The New World Order elitist

The New World Order elitist "Peak Oil" scam sure has been paying off well for the oil companies:

"Chevron 4Q Profit Up 20 Percent to $4.14B," Michael Liedtke, Associated Press (AP), January 27, 2006:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/27/AR200601...

"Shell profit hits record $23 bln on oil price," Reuters, February 3, 2006:

http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=correctionsNews&storyID=110...

"Exxon Mobil: biggest corporate profit ever," Investment & Business News:

http://www.investmentandbusinessnews.co.uk/ibn/Q4smartSite.dll/main?arti...

"Exxon Mobil Posts Record Profit for 2005," Steve Quinn, Associated Press (AP), January 30, 2006:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=1558283

"Shell reports biggest-ever profit in UK," AFX News Limited, February 2, 2006:

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2006/02/02/afx2495453.html

For much more on the globalist elite's "Peak Oil" scam, see the below post by me:

"The 'Peak Oil' Scam," December 5, 2005:

http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54&mforum=libertyandtruth

James, No need to bash the

James,

No need to bash the 'peak oil' theory here, this isn't a peak oil blog..

Jones' paper is now up to

Jones' paper is now up to revision 5.0

go Jones.. its ya

Oh really, dz? You could

Oh really, dz? You could have fooled me.

My point in "bashing"--as you call it (i.e., disproving)--the "Peak Oil" scam is that certain pundits within the 9/11 Truth movement have made the globalist elite's "Peak Oil" scam one of their central dogmas.

Hence, the fallacious notion of "Peak Oil" is tied up with the 9/11 Truth movement whether I want it to be or not (and I do not, since it is false).

This goes to the question of the motives behind the globalists staging the 9/11 attacks. The "Peak Oil" scam is used as a psychological ploy to let them off the hook, and to so also justify their future villainies, since it presents the globalists as really having the Western countries' best interests at heart, since we're all going to drop dead any second now unless we grab the Arabs' oh-so-rare oil.

And as I have been proving up one side and down the other, every which way from Monday and back again to Sunday, the "Peak Oil" scam is totally fallacious.

Rather, the motive behind the U.S. government-staged 9/11 attacks is the same as all government-staged terrorism throughout history has been: the desire to obtain more funding, power and control.

The only difference now being is that we are at the stage where forming a one-world government has become technologically feasible. Hence, the push by the globalists to implement their long-standing desire for their self-termed New World Order by hook or by crook, of which their staged 9/11 attacks were merely a part of this push.

So, when are we going to see

So, when are we going to see 9/11 Truth merged and embraced with enviromental activists, anti WTO-IMF-World Bank activists, and anti war activists on a large scale? Maybe all the in fighting and pod-missle stuff has turned people off sadly...even tho many many mainstream politicians have said there is some kind of 9/11 coverup, and the EPA said it was forced to lie about the health reports.

Nevertheless the peak-oil

Nevertheless the peak-oil story is right or not, oil was an interest for THEM. Expensive OIL. Supports the DOLLAR and the gains of friends and family companies.

I look at the PNAC agenda

I look at the PNAC agenda for what they want and certainly oil was an interest and still is...

James, what is this 'oh

James,

what is this 'oh really, dz?' crap? did you come here just to try to provoke an arguement?

Welcome to the show ladies

Welcome to the show ladies and gentleman, the name of this show is 'Distraction'.

Our contestants will be trying to focus on the subject of 9/11 and how to break through into mainstream awareness, but while they are doing that we will be shooting cream pies at them!

All James is showing us is

All James is showing us is that oil companies are profitting at a time when we're at war with an oil country. Gas prices rose during the first Gulf War as well. That doesn't mean it's right for them to gouge us, but that's what they do. It doesn't prove that the theory of "Peak Oil" is wrong.

its probably just as much of

its probably just as much of a raquet as the diamond industry, but i dont see the need to make it an arguement here, like i said, this isnt a peak oil blog.. so whether you beleive it or not really doesn't matter here..

but next time im bored with nothing useful to do with my time (aka never) ill be sure to read all those links he posted.

DSM, oil is certainly a

DSM, oil is certainly a major concern of the globalists. One of the main reasons they invade major oil-producing countries is to *shut off* the flow of oil! That is, to restrict its production, and to also use oil as a weapon against other countries.

While although there is more oil than anyone knows what to do with, many countries in the world are dependant upon importing oil from other countries. Thus, if the globalists can control the major oil-producing countries, then they can so also control these other countries which must import their oil.

For much more on the globalist elite's "Peak Oil" scam, see the below post by me:

"The 'Peak Oil' Scam," December 5, 2005:

http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54&mforum=libertyandtruth

And, dz, I'm not attempting to provoke an argument with you. I'm merely trying to educate people. As I said above, the globalist elite's "Peak Oil" scam is tied up with the 9/11 Truth movement whether I want it to be or not (and again, as I previously said, I do not want it to be, since it is a fallacious notion).

We don't go to war over

We don't go to war over diamonds... ;)

Jon Gold, governments go to

Jon Gold, governments go to war in attempting to obtain more funding, power and control (of which includes taking over other countries).

And yes, Jon Gold, governments do go to war over diamonds (at least in part). Look up the Boer Wars in Africa. There were two Boer Wars.

This UAE ports stuff has me

This UAE ports stuff has me thinking P-tech. See:

(scroll down to) "Indira Singh Sibel's Letter"
http://911busters.com/911-Commission.html

Purely as an idle observation, compare Dubai building architecture with proposed new WTC
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/ci/bu/?id=100485
http://www.renewnyc.com/plan_des_dev/wtc_site/new_design_plans/Freedom_T...

In bed with the enemy (music)
http://www.freechannel.org/InBedWithTheEnemy.mp3

I said "we" don't go to war

I said "we" don't go to war over diamonds. James, you're more than happy to come to my board to discuss the peak, or diamonds, etc... dz obviously doesn't want us talking about it here.

Regardless... we do go to war to increase our powerbase. If that includes money, diamonds, oil, gold, whatever... It's called the "spoils of war".

Oh my god frank... you

Oh my god frank... you figured it out! We pulled off 9/11 so the UAE could build buildings in Manhattan!!!

Jon Gold, the only war I go

Jon Gold, the only war I go to is the infowar.

And as I explained above, controlling major oil-producing countries is certainly a spoil of war. In this manner, the globalists can better restrict the production of oil and hence jack up the prices, while at the same time further indoctrinating the masses with the notion that we're headed for an apocalyptic shortage of oil, hence helping to justify in the mass-consciousness the villainies of the globalists, both past and future (since they're doing it because they have the Western world's best interests at heart, etc.).

For much more on the globalist elite's "Peak Oil" scam, see the below post by me:

"The 'Peak Oil' Scam," December 5, 2005:

http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54&mforum=libertyandtruth

Here's a guy who says there

Here's a guy who says there IS a very real oil crisis. He taught petroleum engineers and geologists at the Royal School of Mines, part of Imperial College of Science and Technology in London.He was in the oil industry for 30 years. Who are you going to believe? I don't know, but it's not central to planes, buildings,terrorists, false confession vidoes and anthrax attacks, so it may wait to be decided. (link)

9/11 was an inside job.

9/11 was an inside job.

James, I'm aware of the so

James, I'm aware of the so called peak oil scam...which is something that I'm agnostic about. Simply don't know the truth.
If you want to understand what I think were the motives for the new Pearl Harbor then you should read this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1036571,00.html

Some correspondence I had

Some correspondence I had with Michael Meacher...

Dear Jonathan Gold,

You emailed me on 31 July. I have at last had chance to follow the link you included and have the following comments on Shaukat QadirÂ’s article.

1. S Qadir seems rather confused, since several of his paragraphs (4, 5, 6, 7 & 10) precisely confirm what I said, and where he does not (paras 2 – 3), his language is simply dismissive rather than saying why exactly he thinks I might be wrong.

2. (his para 2) Role of General Mahmood and Omar Sheikh is attested both by Pakistan and US sources, and transfer of $100,000 is acknowledged by FBI.

3. (his para 2) I did provide evidence of SheikhÂ’s innocence, ie. Both FBI and PearlÂ’s wife have publicly stated they accept Sheikh did not kill Pearl.

4. (his para 3) I never said “the US and Pakistan Governments have colluded to hide facts” or anything like it. I said that CIA and Pakistan ISI have always worked extremely closely together (which he confirms, paras 4 – 5), and that any action by ISI involving US would almost certainly be known to CIA (which is very different to his garbled sta tement, para 8 “that anything known to the ISI is due to the CIA connection” - I said no such thing.)

5. I did not say General Mahmood was “the actual financier of the 9/11 attack” (para 2). I said he asked Omar Sheikh to wire $100,000 to two Florida accounts of Mohammed Atta, but the cost of 9/11 attacks was probably 3 – 4 times greater.

Regards.

Michael Meacher

Rt Hon Michael Meacher MP
House of Commons
London SW1A 0AA
020 7219 4532

..............................

Dear Michael, 

First and foremost, I would like to say THANK YOU.  It is literally UNHEARD of to get an ACTUAL response from politicians where I live.  They ALWAYS send a standardized letter.

Secondly... HELP US!!!!

Very Sincerely Yours, 

Jonathan Gold

..............................

You are very welcome.  You also emailed me on 26 July asking for the sources of my article “The Pakistan Connection”.  This was Karachi News 10 September 2001, confirmed by US sources subsequently. 

As I write, the news from the US election is extremely depressing – God help us all.

Michael Meacher 

Rt Hon Michael Meacher MP
House of Commons
London SW1A 0AA
020 7219 4532

The date of the correspondence was November 3rd, 2004... a day after the election...

Heh Jon, I'm thinking

Heh Jon, I'm thinking hostile corporate takeover, with citizens becoming tenants and the billionaires preparing their ownership society. But that's nothing new and just me conspiracy-theorizing before my second glass of morning orange juice.

We shall see...

We shall see...

Here's the article I asked

Here's the article I asked Mr. Meacher about...

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_31-7-2004_pg3_3

ha, a comic book site is

ha, a comic book site is writing about 9/11 truth, and being very supportive!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=10#section3

I read comic books biotch.

I read comic books biotch.

That was me...

That was me...

I believe the Huffington

I believe the Huffington Post Blog is censoring or removing certain posts about 9/11.

I've had two posts to Alec Baldwin's same column not show up. Alec wrote, in part:

"I suppose that, in the post-9/11 world, one would be hard-pressed to refer to anyone other than a militant Arab fundamentalist who hijacks a plane and pilots it into a building somewhere on our shores..."

I replied: Worse still are those among us who would orchestrate a false flag operation of crashing plains into buildings on our shore. So there is no need to apologize for calling Cheney a terrorist.

So I sent the following e-mail to Huffpo:
"Who/Why is blocking my above post??? Is it you guys or Big Brother who can't handle the truth about 9/11???

(I'm also quite sure I saw a response re: 9/11 by "the professional" on Baldwin's same blog earlier this morning, but now it's not there.)

I caught Bill Maher talking

I caught Bill Maher talking to blech Wolf Blitzer on the Situation Room. WIth a copy of the 9/11 Commission Report in the bookcase over his shoulder, Maher said...

First of all, anybody in the Bush administration who is still in the Bush administration says what George Bush tells them to say. And anybody who doesn't, and we have a long list of those people, Paul O'Neill, the general who said we need more troops, those kind of people, they get fired. So I don't put any stock when his loyal soldiers mouth the words he's telling them to say.

And, again, when there's a problem, a security problem, it's usually an inside job.

Hmm... though I don't recall Maher saying anything too 9/11 Truth, I found this little nugget interesting.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/21/sitroom.03.html

"I believe the Huffington

"I believe the Huffington Post Blog is censoring or removing certain posts about 9/11."

That's true, I post there as well. Anytime I notice 9/11 material not being posted (never really bothered to check if they are removed, but according to a poster over at huff several 9/11 related material has been deleted once they enter "archives", leave the front page so to speak).

I end up posting the same thing but I tone it down and give hints, try to get people curious...can be a far better tactic to initiate new people to the truth movement than in your face posts similar to "IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!".

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Thanks Jon for the Meacher material.

I believe the Huffington

I believe the Huffington Post Blog is censoring or removing certain posts about 9/11.

I've had two posts to Alec Baldwin's same column not show up. Alec wrote, in part:

"I suppose that, in the post-9/11 world, one would be hard-pressed to refer to anyone other than a militant Arab fundamentalist who hijacks a plane and pilots it into a building somewhere on our shores..."

It has taken 3 days sometimes for my posts to show up there. at first i thought the same as you, but then it was there the next day...so maybe they delay it to take away the punch.

BTW, did anyone catch this little tidbit? remind you of anything? interesting how it coincides with the port sale.

http://uae.usembassy.gov/visit_the_usa.html

Visit the USA: Streamlined Visa Processing

PRESS RELEASE
February 14, 2006

The Department of State, the U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi and the Consulate General in Dubai have recently taken steps to further expedite visa processing for travel to the United States. An important part of this new streamlined procedure is the use of the Electronic Visa Application Form (EVAF). This form is now required for all Nonimmigrant Visa applications in order to expedite visa interviews and processing.

Use of the Electronic Visa Application Form (EVAF)

The EVAF is a simple, online internet application that allows visa applicants to fill out their visa applications on the internet. The use of the EVAF will result in shorter lines and waiting time since visa clerks will no longer need to manually enter visa application information.

Use of the EVAF is required for all Nonimmigrant Visa applications beginning March 1, 2006. After this date, the U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi and the U.S. Consulate in Dubai will no longer accept handwritten applications.

Other Steps to facilitate travel

In addition to the EVAF, the U.S. Government has taken other steps to facilitate travel to the U.S.:

• Applicants for student visas and emergency medical cases do not require appointments in Abu Dhabi. Student and emergency medical cases are given expedited priority appointments in Dubai.

• Students can apply for visas up to 120 days before they begin their studies.

• The average wait for a Non-Immigrant Visa appointment has been reduced to 1-2 days in Abu Dhabi and 5-6 days in Dubai. Most approved visas are ready within 24 hours; the remainder normally are completed within 2 weeks.

For visa application information and for a link to EVAF, please go to:

http://uae.usembassy.gov/
or
http://dubai.usconsulate.gov
and click on “Visas to the U.S.”

Filling out the application online does NOT mean the application has been transmitted to the Embassy or Consulate. The application must be printed out and display a BARCODE to indicate that the application is complete. The application with barcode – the completed EVAF – then must be brought to the Consular Section on the scheduled interview day. Visa applicants presenting handwritten applications or applications filled out in any way other than EVAF cannot be interviewed and will have to make a new appointment.

For questions, please contact Embassy Abu Dhabi and Consulate General Dubai by email.

Abu Dhabi email address: consularabudha@state.gov
Dubai email address: dubaivisaenquiry@state.gov

Telephone inquiries for the U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi are accepted between 2:00 p.m. and 4:00 p.m. on Saturday thru Wednesday, on (+971 - (0)2-414-2662.) The U.S. Consulate General in Dubai accepts visa-related inquiries by telephone (+971-(0)4-311-6000) on Saturdays, Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays between 3 and 4 p.m., as well as on Sundays between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m.

"It has taken 3 days

"It has taken 3 days sometimes for my posts to show up there [on Huffpo]. at first i thought the same as you, but then it was there the next day...so maybe they delay it to take away the punch."

Delaying readers 9/11 posts for several days or deleting them altoghther certainly does take away their punch!!! (Way fewer people read them) What motivates Huffpo do engage in this blatant censorship???

(I have noticed that my non-9/11 posts usually appear within 1 minute on Huffpo. My 9/11 posts either never appear or show up hours or days later, but still time-stamped as to when I originally submitted them. Perhaps Huffpo or our Govey uses some automatic screening software.)

was checking out that Mark

was checking out that Mark Bingham site, and noticed there was a 10k race in San Francisco, "Run to Remember 9-11"

http://www.r2r911.org/02_raceinfo.html

I live in SF and NEVER heard about it.

they are having the 2nd annual race on 9-10-06. i don't want to be disrespectful to family members but this would be a good "activist" launching pad for "remembering 9-11"

there is plenty of time to plan and organize for it.

"Mom? This is Mark Bingham."

sorry SBG, didn't mean to steal your line but it is so appropriate.

Fox News Conspiracy Theory:

Fox News Conspiracy Theory: Russia Moved SaddamÂ’s WMD To Syria:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/22/fox-conspiracy/
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About huffpost. Delays for posting there also depends on if you are replying to a news story or someones blog.

U.S. DidnÂ’t Target Bin

U.S. DidnÂ’t Target Bin Laden in 1999 Because He Was Meeting With UAE Royal Family:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/22/bin-laden-uae-royals/

Right, there were actually a lot more opportunities to strike.

Anonymous: huffpo is shady.

Anonymous: huffpo is shady. They allow flame wars to kick up between the "wingnuts" but when you mention 9/11 you'd better watch your ass.

I think we've still got some good posts up on the Oliver Stone story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/02/21/stone-says-911-movie-has-_n_161...

SCOTT FORBES ON JACK BLOOD'S

SCOTT FORBES ON JACK BLOOD'S RADIO SHOW "DEADLINE LIVE" NEXT MONDAY 2.27.06 (3pm EST)

Scott Forbes - WTC Survivor details suspicious "power outage" in WTC towers before 911

Scott Forbes is a Senior Database Administrator for Fiduciary Trust and used to work in the South Tower of the WTC. - SF: Because of a "power down" notified by the Port Authority. Power was being switched off for a 36hr period in the top half of tower and as I work for a Financial Institution and Bank in the Technology Group I was working on the shutdown and eventually the startup of all our systems. There were several guys in overalls, carrying building gear, toolboxes, etc inside the building. Remember there were no security locks on doors or security cameras, so access was free unless a door was locked by a manual key. Seeing so many 'strangers' who didn't work at the WTC was unusual. They would all need to have stick-on badges, with their photo and name. I can't remember seeing those badges or not. Also...I am aware of one member of staff who was lost whose wife reported that he told her on the phone that explosions were going off. I've sent emails and letters to the 9/11 commission and the Port Authority of NY/NJ, without response, and I've emailed, IM'd and spoken to several independent authors and broadcaster. No mainstream media outlets.

Read More: http://www.phpbbserver.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=34343&mforum=jackblood#...

FYI: GCN broadcasts Jack Blood's show (3pm EST) and can be listened to over the internet:

http://www.gcnlive.com/listenlive.htm

Anyone know anything about a

Anyone know anything about a Electro-Hydrodynamic Gaseous Fuel Device ?

Yes, Professional. I know

Yes, Professional. I know what you mean. Huffpo allows all sorts of controversial posts, except for 9/11 truth it seems.

If Huffpo gags 9/11 skeptics, they should inform everyone of this policy, rather than secretly censoring us like Big Brother. They should also have the guts to give their reasons for this censorship.

Jonathan Gold - can you

Jonathan Gold - can you please post the link to the original Michael Meacher article that forms the basis of his comments? Thanks

http://www.guardian.co.uk/com

Thanks again Jon :)

Thanks again Jon :)

Jon Gold, the never ending

Jon Gold, the never ending king of references. :)

Heh... well, ya know...

Heh... well, ya know...

I am so proud of you all.

I am so proud of you all. hey, if you haven't already, go to 911truth.org and become part of the Citizen's Counter-Coup. There's a way that you can sign up for the "bloggerbrigade" which is basically an email list for folks to send all the requisite information for seeding to mainstream outlets and blogs. I don't know the precise link - maybe someone can help me out.

RayRayJones said: was

RayRayJones said:

was checking out that Mark Bingham site, and noticed there was a 10k race in San Francisco, "Run to Remember 9-11"

http://www.r2r911.org/02_raceinfo.html

I live in SF and NEVER heard about it.

they are having the 2nd annual race on 9-10-06. i don't want to be disrespectful to family members but this would be a good "activist" launching pad for "remembering 9-11"

there is plenty of time to plan and organize for it.

"Mom? This is Mark Bingham."

sorry SBG, didn't mean to steal your line but it is so appropriate.
rayrayjones | Homepage | 02.22.06 - 2:49 pm | #

Hey RRJ, that would be an awesome "Truthing" opportunity, I don't put a lot of stock in the theory that protesting at 9/11 memorial events is "disrespectful" to the families. As long as the protesters behave and act respectful, I think its a great thing to do. Besides, there is no time to be subtle, sometimes you gotta hit people over the head with this stuff.

Anyway, the press will probably be there, as well as a sizable crowd. Organize something for people in your area....

Hi! I did a search on

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I just came from another nice website for Paid Surveys at http://moneyemployment.worldwidereviews.com/PaidSurveys.htm.

Yesterday I came across Paid Surveys at http://paidsurveyswatch.blogspot.com.

Check them out if you have time. Thanks anyway .. and take care