Listening now. Griffin to be on the show around 10:30. Malloy says he hasn't read either of Griffin's books and hasn't watched his videos, and didn't see the PBS special (not sure what he's referring to there -- possibly the clip of Silverstein, or perhaps Malloy is thinking of the CSPAN broadcast of Griffin's talk in Madison Wisconsin -- I don't know). At any rate, it'll be interesting to hear what Malloy DOES think (I already know what Griffin thinks, and agree with him of course). Will Malloy take a stand on the side of 9/11 truth? Or, will he be vague? We'll know soon enough....

In his last presentation in NY about the demolition of WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 he proved pretty clearly the arguement through just comments from first hand witnesses.. was a really good presentation..

if i could get through i would make a reference to that speech, drop a line about hoping that ny911truth.org gets it out there sooner than later, and ask if he can expound on his comments at the end of the speech where he said he had been contacted by reporters of major news corporations who wanted to cover the story..

if anyone has been contacted by the MSM it would be him.. i would also like to know his future plans related to 9/11 research, like what book he is working on, and if he would be interested in getting on the daily show when his next book comes out.

dz, excellent questions! You need to call in.

Malloy just said he tends to agree with what he's read by Griffin. Great start!

DRG is the man.

The secret service reaction is a great sticking point, I'm also enjoying the cumulative vs. deductive discussion...

there are only 2 clips of the first impact.. the naudet brothers, and a clip taken from the freeway a long distance away.. both of those were done by hand operated cameras, and the tapes were not given to the media until the next day.. it DEFINATELY was not live, that isn't even a question..

now whether bush meant he saw that a plane had crashed into the building (because of the huge hole), or whether he said he actually saw the hit happen is a completely different question..

either way, the SS response was directly against their protocol and training.

Mike made a good point... they would have had to have a camera pointed directly at the tower at the time of the first plane hitting. The possibility exists. They were a highly photographed monument. However, I have NEVER seen ANY footage other than what we've already seen. You're going to tell me that out of all the viewer audience of CNN, not a single one had their VCR's on? If they did record it, they could have made a lot of money off of that footage. I don't know that I believe what this woman told DRG.

These Bush clips that Malloy has at the beginning and end of each segment are excellent and even more damning in the context of this interview. Love it.

plug? Of course I plan to- if they actually take me off hold and on air.

Here's the book that dz doesn't have...

http://home.comcast.net/~gold9472/autograph.gif

i got a good question.. prolly will start a good discussion..

if there ever was a new investigation, what would be the starting points? the physical evidence is probably all gone (were the plane parts kept? doubt it.), so what would be some good starting points for a new investigation if one ever happens?

Jon, you know that's totally photoshopped.

gold, you suck.

with respect dz thats a bit hard to hit out of the park kind of question but a great question

Totally...

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/TruthConf/convergence7.gif

^ Body doubles

gold=suck

time for a 9/11 truth convergence in friggin Atlanta!!!

For those who've never seen it... here are photos from the D.C. Emergency Truth Convergence, July 23, 2005 at Lafayette Park in front of the White House...

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3391

hehe... heheheh... hahahahahah... HAHHAHAHAHAH.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

ha, got dumped from ringing..

still holding
jesse !! you shmuck my turn lol

HA... Jesse...

nice point by jesse.. the energy meetings with cheney are still being covered up..

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5998

scottsdale? interesting......

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6998

im in da queue :)

I'm afraid i didn't make it....i think about to be dropped....

Killer eyewitness, I hope this stuff is being archived.

dz... he's my friend, not yours damn it!!! :)

I am listening right now. WOW!!! Malloy and Griffin are both beautifull. What more can I say?

Thanks to DRG I'm still holding with mike

ah well, didnt make the cut, i will at least stay on to say thanks to mike though..

from here on out the mike malloy show will be my listening material late nights when im working on the site.

One of you kind 911b´ souls are capturing this and gonna post MP3s right right right?? oh, stripped of commercials of course!!

I'm still gonna hold to thank mike and drg as well as plug 911blogger and whatever else i can think of

thanks :)

well there you have it....

Good job, nice plug :)

goosh i sound like dweb.... but how did i look?

Nice job :+: :+: :+:

good job ss... you looked hot...

inside- LOL thanks

gold recorded it and is editing it.. i will try to get up early and post it once it is up.

That friggin ROCKED! You know whats interesting? Its the lack of working cameras on top of the WTC that morning. The ones that routinely broadcast pictures and views to local cable stations...funny how they were not working that morning...Mike Malloy and DRG just put another big hole in the Neocon Dam...hahahaha... I'm getting goosebumps...peace all

I wonder what the ghost troop would think about the numbers 47 and 111?

http://www.geocities.com/onlythecaptain/

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/iraq

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/02/23/ap2547950.html

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=282112006

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06054/659825.stm

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0602/S00142.htm

http://www.edmondsun.com/local/local_story_053183347.html?keyword=topstory

http://www.4rfv.co.uk/nationalnews.asp?id=48667

Anonymous - I explained the pulvarization of the concrete and he replied with something about kinetic energy

Hey if you guys (CB/Chris/et. al) need some help posting somewhere you can join the brigade list here,

http://lists.riseup.net/www/info/bloggerbrigade

One your subscribed you can send out the links.

If you find yourself alone with a topic you think you can't handle I would suggest staying with arguements such as Bush and the inaction of his secret service, Bush seeing the first plane hit, Operation Northwoods, unreleased video from pentagon, etc.

Sometimes you will get hit with a lot of "attack the messenger" type posts, that's a good thing :) A lot of the shills are thick skinned and will resort to character assassination and wild assertions in order to make you look foolish, so it's best to just be aware. Call them on it too!

Sounds like Dr. Griffin has a cat.

No... that would be me. :)

Just so everyone knows... Jim Fetzer, David Griffin, and Morgan Reynolds is going to be on Coast to Coast tonight... I don't know where to listen live... do you?

ha, just got that word too.. there is a 'listen' link at the top of the headlines.

what time does it come on? 12? 1? UGH.

i have no idea.. their frigging site doesnt say anywhere.. the one thing someone might try to lookup..

the listen section for atlanta said 10pm - 4am, but i am pretty sure the show starts at midnight or 1am..

anyone know for sure?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/230206villagevoice.htm

Murphy asks, "Why would the government destroy WTC7 when no one knew or cared about it?"

How on earth can no one know about a building that occupied an entire city block and rose over 600 feet above street level? Why would no one care about a building that houses offices of the CIA, the Secret Service and the IRS? This was hardly an office warehouse.

exactly what i thought when i read the article.

for those interested, you can find the last major 9/11 show they had (5 hours long) here:
http://www.911blogger.com/2005/06/recording-of-last-nights-coast-to.html

and according to that thursday night show it was 1AM EST.

The fact that the 9/11 movement is being directly targeted by Popular Mechanics, the State Department and others is a benchmark of our progress.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win."

maybe Malloy will have on Steven Jones or Webster Tarpley now that hes obviously open to having on guests with realistic views on 9/11.i wanna see Tarpley on his show next.

I enjoyed the show, but nothing to me compares to when DRG was on with Alex Jones and others on coast to coast july 2005 9/11 toundtable discussion. That was the finest hour of radio programming I've ever heard. The first time I heard the daming 1993 WTC 93' tapes proving FBI were in on it.

Some things tho:

1. I still have not seen much on the '5 mossad dancing and taping' thing online. Just a couple articles. I do remember a report of 5 supposed middle eastern men dancing and cheering and filming the day of 9/11, but there was no media followups. Big question: Was it really mossad, and the $20,000 question: were they filming before the FIRST plane hit?

2. I think people in the 9/11 truth(well, some) need a refresher course on just what Arab terrorists are capable of, and are up to. No, not fromt he Orwellian words of the Bush regime, just independent research. Ya can't chalk everything up as "US state sponsored government CIA shadow ops" stuff...as quite literally, there are some pretty bad men out there who have hijacked Islam. The US is just exploiting it. It feels like in 9/11 Truth a lot of times, the thinking that there are no Arab extremists baffles me, yet hardly anyone in the Arab world is proclaiming they were patsies.

3. I think Bush was DEFINATELY kept out of the loop on 9/11. When people say "Bush orchestrated 9/11" I have to laugh along with the skeptics. He may be the grandson of a Nazi financier, Skull and Bones, ric spoiled oil son, etc...but theres no way whoever planned or knew about 9/11 was going to spill the beans to him. I believe the 'saw it on tv' regarding the 1st plane is just another Bushism.

i dont think that arabs were not involved, but i do think the few that actually boarded planes that day had no idea what was going to happen. also, i know Atta and a couple others are on tape at the airport, but nobody from Flights 77 or 93 is on tape at an airport correct? i might be wrong on this one, maybe someone can help me out.

pockybot:

VIDEO: Down the Memory Hole: Carl Cameron's TV story about 9-11 Israeli Spy Ring in U.S.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/04/1733293.php

pocky,

i agree with you about #2 for sure.. i will say however that i think 9/11 and our government's actions afterwards set the tone for the militant extremists.. sure they existed before 9/11, but today they exist in 10x the numbers.. also, i would suggest that if the administration is trying to create permanent military bases in iraq then they will in some cases help fuel the fire to maintain a need for us to be there..

W.G. Tarpley's big on promoting the evidence that 911 was a coup by the MIC oligarchs against even parts of the executive branch, hanging his hat on the phone call received by someone with all the right secret codes, who said simply "Angel is next", refering to air force one, upon which emperor aWol was wildly zigzagging the country. WGT feels it was a threat from the MIC oligarchs that if aWol doesn't become the MIC PTB's complete bitch 2nd only to gannon/guckert, he's toast. Tarpley's said he doesn't buy the speculation that shadow preznit 28-guage-and-Jim-Beam--Cheney was in the bunker of the WH orchestrating the war games.

I think the evidence of the later scenario is much broader and more credible, as summarized by FTW,
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_case.shtml
Could be some mix of these theories are correct.

But again it's not our job to know what DID HAPPEN given the withheld & destroyed evidence... when we can agree that the gummit's OCT of 911 is total BS.

I still haven't listened to the whole infotainment show, but the part at 51 minutes was sufficiently disinformative that I got Mike Malloy on the phone!

I explained to him how, just because it was impossible for you and I to have seen the 1st impact on TV on the morning of 9/11 (note that CNN's online copy is dated the 12th, because they didn't get it until after midnight -- Malloy disinformatively also spread the true nonsense that some confused others believe they saw it on TV that morning), it was by no stretch of the imagination "impossible" for Bush (POTUS) to have seen it then.

Malloy hung up on me mid-sentence. Or maybe we were just disconnected?

So I called him right back and picked up where I'd [been] left off, adding that the only thing more revealing than the content of Bush's incriminating witness statements was the total non-reaction to them by Democrats, who surely (if they truly opposed Republicans, that is) would have pounced on (or at least finally brought up during the 2004 Presidential election campaign) the supposedly-impossible statements. (Bush doesn't remember how he first learned of 9/11?)

With sounds of a baby in the room, Malloy exploded at me, demanding to know where and how I got his number. When I asked if that was really important, he launched into a verbal tirade that would make a sailor blush (and certainly get me banned from here if I repeated it) and said he would track me down and break my neck. Then he hung up.

I called back and got voice mail.

As I've always said, it's not a good idea to brand someone as a disinformation agent based upon them having propagated bogus information, but only after having brought an alternate explanation to the person's attention, and measured their reaction, do I feel comfortable concluding that the person clearly has some other-than-the-truth agenda going on.

Mike Malloy (the mirror image of Rush Limbaugh? they both help perpetuate the fake false phony left-right paradigm...) is obviously more interested in calling Bush ("the Bush Crime Family") names than in honestly considering (he seems to believe that POTUS has no more channels of info available to him than you and I do!) the evident, much more incriminating meaning to Bush's statements.
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"Malloy disinformatively also spread the true nonsense that some confused others believe they saw it on TV that morning)"

Actually, it was Dr. Griffin who was spreading the disinformation you speak of.

dont we get banned for calling people dis-info? somebody better hope not because he makes a friggin career out of it......

I should have used quotes.

haha, i wasnt talking about you, but ok.

does anyone know what 2 major media networks contacted Griffin about 9/11? he mentioned it on Malloy, but didnt say what networks.

Well... when I was talking with David... he let's me call him David you know... ever since he signed my book... but when I was talking with David, you know... shootin' the shit... it never came up.

Actually, for those who don't know, Dr. Griffin and I are friendly through a couple of emails, and that's about it. I just like ridin' dz...

911blimp-- "So I called him [Malloy] right back and picked up where I'd [been] left off, adding that the only thing more revealing than the content of Bush's incriminating witness statements was the total non-reaction to them by Democrats, who surely (if they truly opposed Republicans, that is) would have pounced on (or at least finally brought up during the 2004 Presidential election campaign) the supposedly-impossible statements. (Bush doesn't remember how he first learned of 9/11?)"

Excellent analysis & commentary!!! (I am very suspicious why Kerry & other Dems didn't make a huge issue of Bush's ridiculous 9/11 excuses & slip-ups!)

"With sounds of a baby in the room, Malloy exploded at me, demanding to know where and how I got his number. When I asked if that was really important, he launched into a verbal tirade that would make a sailor blush (and certainly get me banned from here if I repeated it) and said he would track me down and break my neck. Then he hung up."

I'm new to 9/11 truth. I've never heard of this Malloy guy, but his (above) tantrum sounds like he does not want to hear or report the full truth. (You probably hit a "nerve" in him with your incisive allegations about his misleading statements.)

No, he harassed him on the telephone. Like he's done to me, and to several other people.

dz... I can't speak for anyone but myself, but all of the sudden, I find myself "infighting". I didn't say, or do anything. I find myself responding to to something that's not only based on flawed information, but vindictive in nature.

We had a perfectly good, constructive thread going here, and WHAM... "Mike Malloy is disinformation, he yelled at me for calling his house without his permission, blah blah blah".

I'm not going to name names, but this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Anywho.... where were we...

I think poopy, and dz were having a discussion.

Yes JG. We should remain focused on learning & spreading the whole truth. Petty infighting is a waste of time & energy, IMHO.

yes Jon, that tends to happen when certain people insist that everyone who doesnt believe in holograms, nuclear weapons, and any other pet 9/11 theorys they have are dis-info.i hate the infighting as well, i dont even go to WINGTV anymore because i was so sick of seeing a hit-piece on various 9/11 activists every damn time you went to their website.

blimp,

you should listen to the rest of the show.. another caller brought up the claims of him seeing the first impact, and griffin said it was quite plausible that he got a classified feed in the limo on his way to the classroom..

of all people for the phone line to disconnect on it had to be you.. what luck! hehe.. i am assuming you called him back on a private phone number, or at least not the call in number for the show? if so that probably better explains his anger at you, either that or your accusational tone.. to this day you are the only person to call me directly without me asking you to, and that was a bit weird, to some that may come off as a veiled threat..

i wouldnt read too much into it, and i would listen for another caller who brought up the same point.

emperor aWol himself said he was in the hall outside the classroom (not in the limo), where "the TV was obviously on" when he saw the first plane hit. RealMedia 1 minute:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/bushsawfirstplane1.ram

one of my other fave clips,
http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/media/video/6/9_11laugh.mpg

Hey, good job all, looking forward to listening to this...