Hey Norton, thats interesting isn't it? Why so scared, has he been threatened already?

That is why simply spreading the word is so important, there is safety in numbers, the more people that know the better.

Spread flyers around, when you walk through parking lots, put them on windshields. Leave them in display cases at malls, rest areas, etc. Tack them to bulletin boards everywhere you go.

Here's a good one to get you started:

http://www.911blogger.com/flyers/BushKnew.pdf

that Mia person on DailyKOS is working overtime. hahahaha, i wonder whos paying her/him?they are getting very scared.look at the progress we are making as a movement.they are dedicating state department web pages to debunking us.they are creating bullshit websites like 911myths.com to debunk us.they are most likely sending people to websites like KOS,etc.(maybe even here!) to try and discredit us.we should feel very good about the past few weekes. ive seen noticable change.

and i noticed on the KOS board that the excuse they are using a lot is the fact that this administration is so inept(katrina,Iraq,etc.) that they couldnt possibly have "done" 9/11.we need to be clearer about that.it doesnt take a whole administration.just a few key people in key positions.we gotta stress that in my opinion.

I just posted.

"Personally, I don't waste time engaging people who are incapable of believing the US Gov would kill 3000 Americans. Are they really not aware of the genocide carried out against Native Americans? Perhaps they've never studied South or Central American history? And of course... Iraq (!?)"

Yes. Another prime example is Hitler, Nazi Germany & the concentration camps. Most Germans will say they never, ever dreamed such atrocities could possibly take place in their society. (And this wasn't 500 A.D. folks, it happened only 60 years ago!)

pretty close to yours.

Daily Kos is a Left Gatekeeper, and the poll choices reflect that. Selections are, neocons, al CIAduh, or some mix. Nothing about the bankster/MIC/NWO oligarchs who control both the repugnicrats and the demublicans. Even though the demublicans have been perfectly complicit in the patriot act, war rubber stamping, fake voting blackbox, etc game.

Kos wants their flock to believe its a viable, ideologically opposed 2 party system, and if we can just evict the neocons and get the demublicans back in power we'll really make a difference and get back on track.

cool Jon, but you should ask her who she works for. hahaha.

Chris... watch the master.

She's taking forever.

uh...so this was my post over at dailykos. I had a feeling that there were more people over there that questioned the official story. Now we have a little insight into what that community thinks. It's interesting that although over 75% of the people think that the neocons were somehow involved, this idea has NOT ONCE been posted about on the front page.

Those in the "liberal blogosphere" love to claim that the DC Dems are too "inside the bubble". But unfortunately, they themselves have fallen into the same trap as those that they despise for.

Watch the master???

OK, tell me when you need me....

i know the choices aren't the best, but i didn't want to make it too complicated. I wanted an overall feel for what the community thinks. We can get into the dynamics of that later. But for now, we see that Kos is being a gatekeeper, even if he thinks he isn't.

The master... I ask questions Neocon's refuse to answer. ;)

I'm one of the two people who chose "Some other group" as their choice.

I recently changed to LIHOP (afa the Bush administration) after some deep thinking, based on the following:

1. No evidence supporting the Bush administration planting explosives in the WTC, or planning the drone aircrafts. (Or course they did "assist", such as Cheney not shooting down the plane headed for the Pentagon.)

2. The US is not run by their government, but instead by the Forture 500 and private bankers

3. PNAC called for a new "Pearl Harbor", not a new "Reichstag Fire"

If Dailykos did not bunch Bush administration members in with neocons, I would have voted for neocons! Of course, PNAC members are neocons... I'm still thinking about that one

afa the third choice, neos and Al Qaeda, there's no evidence that the so called hijackers were even on the planes. So that choice is out.

IMO.. things are working out exactly how the "secret government" wants things to. People are blaming the Bush administation. When they are removed, the secret government will still be in power.

Polls like in Dailykos are not helping matters. For they brainwash people into thinking that if it was neocons, then PNAC and/or the Bush regime must have been involved in the orchestration. But their is zero evidence.

Let's not forget the Pentagon & Flight 93.

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Yes, that's true. Cheney has the fake flight 93 shot down over PA. And he probably ordered the plane that hit the Pentagon to not be shot down. But did he actually plan and setup the drone crafts in the first place?

also a question...... is there any evidence suggesting how the WTC got wired? Other than the South Tower power down, and W's brother being one of the directors of security?

I just responded to Mia. Let me know how it turns out.

the plant did her job. shes gone now.

The phrase "left gatekeeper" is disinformative: It helps prevent people from being able to think about gatekeepers/gatekeeping without them being sucked [back] into the false/fake/phony Left-Right paradigm. If you can't say/think "gatekeeper" without saying/thinking "left gatekeeper" then the propaganda has taken its toll on you!

I've spoken with Karl W. Koch, the engineer who ran the company which erected the steel for the WTC. He acted dumbfounded (but not scared) when I pointed out to him that, at the moment of the collapse, the steel his family company had erected and which had supported the towers for 30 years suddenly offered no resistance to the "collapses" whatsoever.

Back on original topic, it is a divisive diversive distraction to worry about "who orchestrated it" when so many of us remain so clueless about what "it" really was (ie, supposedly-intelligent people now trying to blame all that supernatural heat and excessive damage on a few backpacks' worth of "thermite"?)!

The real main true serious point is that it is a preposterous absurdity to keep blaming 9/11 on "evil suicidal Muslim 'hijackers'", regardless of "who dunnit". (It is wrong, and misdirective, to foster the belief that we must provide our own truth and culprits before we can dissect and demolish the government's lies.)
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> Maybe someone could remind their readers
> of the Zogby poll conducted in NY back in '04?

It would be good to see Zogby run that poll again, and see if there's progress. Maybe someone in the US should raise a fund and pay Zogby, or any other more or less reliably poll co to do a more detailed and extensive (nationwide) poll.

Not to say the Kos poll is no indication, but internet polls do tend to give tainted results.

i would love to see a nation wide poll on 9/11, not just a New York poll.that would be interesting to see.

HAHAHAHAHA, that agent over at KOS, Mia, is still working overtime trying to defend the government. the bitch even brought up the P.M. hit-piece. HAHAHAHAHA, too fucking typical.i was wating for her to drop that one on us.hahahaha.

I just outed Mia. Her evidence is the 9/11 Report.

"My evidence? The NIST report. The 9/11 commision report. The eyewitness accounts of the crashes. The phone calls from people in the planes."

You guys have fun now. Anything she says from this point on is utter nonsense.

Jon....i'm in awe watching you work her over there. (and i'm learning a few things new things!)

:)