Thanks.

On March 18, Stop the “war on terrorism” by exposing the 911 Inside Job.

^Credit to WRH

Why is accepting that 911 is an inside job so hard for so many Americans to accept? If they believed this administration lied to the American people to get us to support a war with Iraq than why not believe that this government would lie to the American people about what happened on 911? Why can you believe one set of lies and not another?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ATTACKS_DEVELOPER?SITE=WABEL&SECT...

Can Silverstein come out in the day light? I've heard that Rove's skin burns when exposed to sunshine.

THE BATTLE-FIELD
by William Cullen Bryant
1837

Once this soft turf, this rivulet's sands,
Were trampled by a hurrying crowd,
And fiery hearts and armed hands
Encountered in the battle-cloud.

Ah! never shall the land forget
How gushed the life-blood of her brave-
Gushed, warm with hope and courage yet,
Upon the soil they fought to save.

Now all is calm, and fresh, and still;
Alone the chirp of flitting bird,
And talk of children on the hill,
And bell of wandering kine, are heard.

No solemn host goes trailing by
The black-mouthed gun and staggering wain;
Men start not at the battle-cry,
Oh, be it never heard again!

Soon rested those who fought; but thou
Who minglest in the harder strife
For truths which men receive not now,
Thy warfare only ends with life.

A friendless warfare! lingering long
Through weary day and weary year,
A wild and many-weaponed throng
Hang on thy front, and flank, and rear.

Yet nerve thy spirit to the proof,
And blench not at thy chosen lot.
The timid good may stand aloof,
The sage may frown- yet faint thou not.

Nor heed the shaft too surely cast,
The foul and hissing bolt of scorn;
For with thy side shall dwell, at last,
The victory of endurance born.

Truth, crushed to earth, shall rise again;
Th' eternal years of God are hers;
But Error, wounded, writhes in pain,
And dies among his worshippers.

Yea, though thou lie upon the dust,
When they who helped thee flee in fear,
Die full of hope and manly trust,
Like those who fell in battle here.

Another hand thy sword shall wield,
Another hand the standard wave,
Till from the trumpet's mouth is pealed
The blast of triumph o'er thy grave.
--

You guys aren't gonna believe this...

Members Of The 9/11 Commission Bribed?

Looking for a source now...

Here are two examples of fake UA175 photographs I quickly made in Photoshop using Flight Simulator to generate the correct image of a Boeing 767. It took about 1 hour to manufacture each image and they aren't particularly convincing, but it does demonstrate that photographic forgery is achievable for the layman.

http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/prod/dialspace/town/pipexdsl/q/aqrf00/gg...

http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/prod/dialspace/town/pipexdsl/q/aqrf00/gg...

If this is what can be achieved by a novice Photoshop user in an evening then imagine what a skilled team of professional forgers could achieve in a few days.

http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/prod/dialspace/town/pipexdsl/q/aqrf00/gg...

Incidentally, are you telling me Led Zeppelin was wrong when they said, "There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold"?

Jon,
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Jack Abramoff, the lobbyist at the center of a federal corruption investigation, led a Congressional delegation to Pakistan in 1997 but failed to tell the group's sponsor or the lawmakers that he was a registered lobbyist for the Pakistani government, according to the sponsor and the two House members on the trip.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/08/politics/08abramoff.html?ei=5088&en=1e...

.... in other breaking news.....

March 13, 2006
An angry federal judge unexpectedly recessed the death penalty trial of al Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui to consider whether government violations of her rules against coaching witnesses should remove the death penalty as an option.
The stunning development came at the opening of the fifth day of the trial as the government informed the judge and the defense over the weekend that a lawyer for the Federal Aviation Administration had coached four government FAA witnesses.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/13/moussaoui.trial.ap/index.html

Nice. Thanks Frank.

my two cents...

A lot of truthers go to anti-war demonstrations...

Washington D.C. Anti-War Rally - 9/24/2005 - Pictures Inside

When's the next "big" one?

It should be the other way around though... as opposed to having an "Anti-War Rally" where truthers show up, they should have a "9/11 Truth Rally" where the anti-war people show up.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I believe that planes did hit the towers and the Pentagon -- but what planes, is a different question. I found the following discussion of this by Morgan Reynolds pretty solid:

http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=we_have_holes

The South Tower does appear cheese-like in the crash video. I also find it difficult to understand how the relatively fragile fuselage and wings could have penetrated the exterior walls, and even so that no parts of the planes bounced off the walls onto the streets below. Then, after piercing through the wall, the planes abruptly stop and are completely destroyed inside the towers. I can't avoid thinking that there is a contradiction here.

Or were the planes completely destroyed inside? Anyone know if there are witness statements of plane parts inside the towers?

Vesa... next time you see a 'write-up' about the 9/11 Truth Movement, and see something like, "Their theories range from "Holograms" to "Missiles" hitting the Pentagon. No wonder they're not taken seriously." Ask yourself how statements like that come to be.

"A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." - John F. Kennedy

http://mrl.nyu.edu/~bregler/videorewrite/final/jfk-forestgump.mov

What do you think would happen if the world became aware that there were no hijacked planes that day, that two of the flights didn't exist, that the towers were attacked with secret technology, that the horrifying image which people saw on TV was just a movie, and that media also faked lists of passengers on the non existent flight which didn't hit the North tower, that a missile of some sort was fired into the pentagon and that fake videos and fake eyewitness reports were concocted to try to sell the story?

http://thewebfairy.com/911/slideshow/2explosion/

that the 911 commission was possibly bribed doesn't seem all that surprising to me - it should be a front and center smoking gun, but then again so should a lot of things that the media tends to downplay or even ignore altogether - is our society really becoming that pathetic or has it always been so and only now are we realizing it?
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MARTIAL LAW SURVIVAL GUIDE

Is it any wonder then that such human scum would get together and work "the system" to set themselves up as kings, dispensing with the pretty coverings of Constitutional limitations that trip their crimes like a prom dress? Taking as much as they can, while keeping YOU ASLEEP AS YOU LET YOURSELF BE SEDUCED AND PUT ASLEEP BY THEIR FELLOW TRAVELLERS IN THE MEDIA AND CORPORATE BOARDS?
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Vesa,

I remember reading one eyewitness statement about plane parts in one of the toweres just after one of the crashes. It's been over two years since I read it and can't remember which site I saw it on.

The witness was a woman with an Asian sounding name and she stated that she was within 20-50 feet of a wing which then caught fire. I think she also said she was the only one in her work unit to get out alive.

sorry, that was supposed to be a link - -
MARTIAL LAW SURVIVAL GUIDE
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plane parts -
911 street engine

"What do you think would happen if the world became aware that there were no hijacked planes that day, that two of the flights didn't exist, that the towers were attacked with secret technology, that the horrifying image which people saw on TV was just a movie, and that media also faked lists of passengers on the non existent flight which didn't hit the North tower, that a missile of some sort was fired into the pentagon and that fake videos and fake eyewitness reports were concocted to try to sell the story?"

You're going to state this as fact?

What's The Difference Between Theory And Fact?

Just found this site recently and would like to thank those who put it together. I have been in construction and building for over 25 years. If I built a 10 story structure that was hit by a plane on the upper stories caught fire but did not burn down and a few hours after impact the whole building explodes and free falls in to dust and small pieces right in front of myself and the owner any claims of inadequate construction would be a joke for an insurance investigator. Buildings do not collapse that way unless they are demolished on purpose.WTC7 well that is just a farce to anyone in construction that has seen the video of that collapse.

Thanks FrankV. You beat me to it on the breaking Moussaoui news. The FAA coaching witnesses no less!

Anti-war demos this weekend Jon! Third anniversary of the invasion of Iraq. Hollywood, Sat. Mar. 18, 12 noon. ANSWER & World Can't Wait will converge on the corner of Hollywood & Vine. David Ray Griffin and Cindy Sheehan have both said this is going to take a massive mobilization of people in the streets. C'mon Truthers, suit up and show up! And bring a sign, DVDs and flyers. This ain't a one-man-show ya know. (Sometimes I feel like it is)

Welcome RC. You're in the right place!

the disinfo agents are getting more worried. For the past 2 to 3 weeks, every entry on this page has been hijacked by holograms and blue screens. why? cuz we stopped talking about pods? cuz we only want to look at the demolitions? AND i find it amazing that after the link to the 9-11 commission being bribed by Pakistan that they kept commenting on videos of planes instead of this amazing admission.

i'm not labeling anyone as disinfo here but it is quite clear those that are, are having an affect on this group...because they continually change the course of each and every topic to their own theories of holograms and fake planes...and still no proof!

why do they continue to inject this crap into the movement when most people can't get their head wrapped around the Big Lie in the first place? because they don't want the truth to be known!!!

i'm not asking anyone to be banned but damn let's just not respond to it. We've all done pretty well in regards to blimp....i mean i can remember when this blog first started and Jon, dz, blimp and SBG and i would actually discuss what Blimp was saying, but i've seen most of his (or her) comments come and go without any response...which is good!

why, with the video of the plane hitting the 2nd tower and countless eyewitnesses, do they harp on the issue that all planes were not real? to distract us from the fact that no plane was at the pentagon? to distract us from flight 93 being shot down? or in the same way the planes were used in the actual attack...to distract us from the fact that there were bombs in the building?

let's be straight, i do not wish to attack those in the movement who seek the truth. i am attacking those who seek to distract us from the truth.

"Anti-war demos this weekend Jon! Third anniversary of the invasion of Iraq."

i'll be at the San Francisco event with DVD's.

9-11 Truth Contingent- San Francisco Anti-War Rally
March 18, Civic Center, 11 a.m.

Join the Northern California 9-11 Truth Alliance's contingent at the rally and march. We have banners, signs, hand-outs, a sound system, 9-11 T Shirts. We will gather under the big Deception Dollar banner, where the 9-11 table is located.

Thanks Randy. In all honesty this site is like fresh air to me. So many in denial it is shocking what people refuse to see.

RayRayJones hit it on the head, we're on to something, the whole movement is focusing on controlled demo, and only those with alterior motives will try to distract us.

Don't fall for it, there is much to do...

cuz we only want to look at the demolitions?

so look at them already! - there are no disinfo agents here.

Are we looking for truth or are we looking for a "safe" truth?

All the negative things said that label people are very similar to the tactics used in the past against the 911 Truth movement as a whole. It wasn't that long ago, we should remember.

Assuming deceitful motives on the part of people holding different views is tempting but fruitless. Be aware that Memes will often spread on their own, especially if there is some truth in them.

For me, it's highly annoying that activists waste time by focusing on the negative. Michael Rivero did it again today at WhatReallyHappened.com. He got suckered by that headline "Don't Allow the Crackpots to Take Over 9/11" which apparently was added on by an editor over the head of the writer.

It's really freakin stupid to focus on your pet peeves. There's so much else to talk about.

While I understand that some people are trying to take the topic mainstream. They should realize that others only seek the truth.

Now collect your evidence, get out there, do something and quit yer bitchin.

P.S. thanks Vesa for the feedback from the "Crackpot" article's author

figuring out how to circumvent the mcmedia might be a good idea ~ for whatever reasons they seem to have a vested interest in covering up.

"Vesa... next time you see a 'write-up' about the 9/11 Truth Movement, and see something like, 'Their theories range from 'Holograms' to 'Missiles' hitting the Pentagon. No wonder they're not taken seriously.' Ask yourself how statements like that come to be."

I'm sorry, Jon, but I see no reason to restrict my thinking. I think Reynolds makes valid points in his article I linked above, and he is *not* saying that holograms were used. (Actually, he says he is skeptical of the hologram theory.) Have *you* read the article?

Regarding the Pentagon crash, I do not believe it was a missile because of the pattern of the lamp posts knocked down:

http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/asce_en.html
(see the illustration in the middle of the page)

But I strongly suspect it was a smalle rand more maneuverable plane than a big passenger aircraft. Here's what a pilot writes about the (im)possibility of flying a passenger plane a few feet above terrain:

"I shanÂ’t get into the aerodynamic impossibility of flying a large commercial jetliner 20 feet above the ground at over 400 MPH. A discussion on ground effect energy, tip vortex compression, downwash sheet reaction, wake turbulence, and jetblast effects are beyond the scope of this article (the 100,000-lb jetblast alone would have blown whole semi-trucks off the roads.)

Let it suffice to say that it is physically impossible to fly a 200,000-lb airliner 20 feet above the ground at 400 MPH.

The author, a pilot and aeronautical engineer, challenges any pilot in the world to do so in any large high-speed aircraft that has a relatively low wing-loading (such as a commercial jet). I.e., to fly the craft at 400 MPH, 20 feet above ground in a flat trajectory over a distance of one mile.

Why the stipulation of 20 feet and a mile? There were several street light poles located up to a mile away from the Pentagon that were snapped-off by the incoming aircraft; this suggests a low, flat trajectory during the final pre-impact approach phase. Further, it is known that the craft impacted the PentagonÂ’s ground floor. For purposes of reference: If a 757 were placed on the ground on its engine nacelles (I.e., gear retracted as in flight profile), its nose would be almost 20 above the ground! Ergo, for the aircraft to impact the ground floor of the Pentagon, Hanjour would have needed to have flown in with the engines buried 10-feet deep in the Pentagon lawn. Some pilot.

At any rate, why is such ultra-low-level flight aerodynamically impossible? Because the reactive force of the hugely powerful downwash sheet, coupled with the compressibility effects of the tip vortices, simply will not allow the aircraft to get any lower to the ground than approximately one half the distance of its wingspan—until speed is drastically reduced, which, of course, is what happens during normal landings.

In other words, if this were a Boeing 757 as reported, the plane could not have been flown below about 60 feet above ground at 400 MPH. (Such a maneuver is entirely within the performance envelope of aircraft with high wing-loadings, such as ground-attack fighters, the B1-B bomber, and Cruise missiles—and the Global Hawk.)"

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/210206impossibility.htm

The Griffin NYC 10/05 audio is available on this site. Just go thru the Febuary archive and youll run into the link for both hour one and two. It is killer! I feel David is the most compelling speaker and even your Grandma would love him. Focusing on the destruction of the WTC is the winning hand for this movement. When people learn that they can form thier own opinions on the rest. Lets stick to our guns and ignore these distraction manipulators.

The story about Pakistan bribing the Commission is important, maybe even more so because of the ommission of any mention of the close connections between the CIA and the ISI, and the $100,000 that the Wall Street Journal reported the ISI chief had wired to Atta before 9/11. While it's possible the bribing/lobbying happened, it's already been established that the Commisson was intended to cover up the truth- packed with members with vested interests in obfuscating the truth and preserving this corrupt Establishment and, therefore, their way of life. The Commissioners had motivations far bigger than a measly one-time bribe, even if it was in the millions; they had to be thinking of their careers and long-term future career prospects, investments, etc.

This could be a Pentagon plant, to put attention on Pakistan and away from the Commission's lies. Or someone trying to cause trouble for Pakistan. Or maybe the official that said that was lying to justify the money he blew on lobbying by saying it helped clear Pakistan's name, when really it was the White House-CIA that made sure the Commission didn't cover those connections cuz they knew they lead back to them.

Would love to see this followed up on by someone with balls and integrity, like Madsen or Palast. See 911truth's coverage of this incident:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060313080211207