Beginning of the Week Open Thread

Things are picking up, is it quick enough?

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Open thread, have at it!

Just went to the Cost of War

Just went to the Cost of War Hits Home" rally here in Tacoma and I met a fellow named Mansfield who was telling someone else about David Ray Griffin. Turns out this dude had printed off hundreds of DVDs of Griffin's talk at U-Wisconsin and was passing them out. I told him we should start a local 911 Truth chapter and he's down! Will keep you all posted!

V for Vendetta...go see it!

V for Vendetta...go see it!

I'm with geggy, mighty fine

I'm with geggy, mighty fine entertainment. Pieces like this one, or Good Night and Good Luck, get my hopes up. Anyone in the Bryan/College Station area can catch a free screening of GN&GL tomorrow evening.


Remember Mark Bingham the brave gay hero aboard flight 93?

Look at the date MARKBINGHAM.ORG was setup- 9/12/01!!!

And Mark Bingham is not in the SSDI nor has any "family" member applied to the September 11th Compensation Fund of 2001.

You can add Mark Bingham to the fake passenger list.

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Michael Wolsey's new show is

Michael Wolsey's new show is up.

This week, he gave an extremely generous plug for the YBBS... thanks Michael!

Visibility 9-11 With Michael Wolsey

Dick Cheney is doing a

Dick Cheney is doing a fundraiser for N.J. Senate candidate Tom Kean, Jr.


OFF TOPIC: can someone


can someone outside the country do me a favor?

i sent this inquiry into the state department misinformation site at

I like your info about depleted uranium. i came across an article that seems to contradict what you say and cites "professionals" that offer counter arguments to the "professionals" you cite on your website.

Could you link to this article and tell me how it is wrong? specifically, the statement...

"The Royal Society of England published data showing that battlefield soldiers who inhale or swallow high levels of DU can suffer kidney failure within days."
"Depleted Uranium May Stop Kidneys In Days," Rob Edwards, New, 3-12-02; also "Uranium Weapons Too Hot to Handle," Rob Edwards, New, 6-9-99


"A 1993 Pentagon document warned that "when soldiers inhale or ingest DU dust they incur a potential increase in cancer risk."
"Depleted Uranium Symptoms Match US Report As Fears Spread," Peter Beaumont, The Observer (UK) 1-14-01.

I am concerned about our troops and it would be a shame if our weapons we use were actually killing our troops and their families while they are protecting this great country.

Thank you for your time.
Yours in Christ,

and i got this response -

Dear Ray:

Sorry, but U.S. laws do not permit me to respond to inquiries from within the United States.

All the best,
Todd Leventhal
Chief, Counter-Misinformation Team
U.S. Department of State

I really am curious as to what they have to say, especially since one quote was from a pentagon study.

plus the website says this -

"Finally, if the counter-misinformation team can be of help, ask us. We canÂ’t respond to all requests for information, but if a request is reasonable and we have the time, we will do our best to provide accurate, authoritative information."

so all questions should get some response. They responded to mine within a day even though they couldn't answer the question because of US laws.

the email address is:

would love to see their response...if you get one would you send it to me at


Don't forget to keep posting

Don't forget to keep posting about the online petition by scholars for truth. Seems to have hit a wall at 5,500 signatures.

Something wicked walks this

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison | March 20 2006

The controlled demolition of a North Texas building Saturday provided a stark reminder that WTC Building 7 and the twin towers could not have been brought down by any other means than planned implosion.

Watch the video of the Landmark Tower implosion in downtown Fort Worth and compare it to the South Tower of the WTC.

Just wondering if anyone has

Just wondering if anyone has any inside access or contact with (e.g., friend of a friend, married to your cousin, etc.) celebrities who may be willing to help get the truth out? Some possible celebrity allies (off the top of my head): Martin Sheen & sons, Susan Sarandon, Bob Dylan, Dixie Chicks, Alec Baldwin & brothers, Spike Lee, George Clooney, Greenpeace, Bruce Springsteen, Sean Penn, Rage Against the Machine, Alan Alda, Cindy Sheehan, Ward Churchill, Rev. Jessie Jackson, Beastie Boys, Curtis Sliwa, etc. (Perhaps insiders could slip various celebs a DVD, book, 9/11 website, etc.)

So much good info just in

So much good info just in these comments, thanks everyone!

I haven't kept up with Alex Jones lately, but happened to catch the last ten minutes of the first hour today and actor Charlie Sheen was just signing off from talking about the need for a new 9/11 investigation, all the holes in the official story and etc.

Isn't the CIA giving away

What really drives me nuts

What really drives me nuts lately is the fear, the sky is falling sort of mentality that goes with even mentioning 9/11. For instance, if Rev Sharpton wants to discuss 9/11 or anyone else for that matter, why not just get on CNN and make the simple statement, "We should re-open 9/11!". I mean what can they do. Let's get over the fear and start talking about it openly.

And Charlie Sheen. Why haven't he and others created "Hollywood for 9/11 truth". That's a lot less scary than individually attacking the administration and will allow for others to step up to the plate. Belafonte too. "Singers for 9/11 truth".

More organizations are needed for "frightened" people to access. Teachers for 9/11 truth. Etc. Then press releases from each group should be stating again, simply, re-open 9/11.

How hard can it be to develop those kinds of organizations.

I was very discouraged by Ed

I was very discouraged by Ed Bradley’s segment on 60 Minutes last night, in which he fretfully reported on NYC’s massive expansion of its police to “fight terrorism.”

Bradley & others continually harped on: NYC is #1 target of international terrorists; more terrorist attacks to come; radical Islam and militant terrorist organizations; counter terrorism; foreign intelligence, spying & informants to stop terrorism; world change after 9/11; NYC cops stationed oversees including in Israel to monitor suicide bombings & terrorism, etc., etc.!!!

A respected guy like Bradley doing a piece like this on 60 Minutes strongly reinforces & legitimizes the FALSE PARANOIA that Osama & his 19 boys perpetrated 9/11. HOW CAN A HIGHLY INTELLIGENT, ACCOMPLISHED, VETERAN JOURNALIST LIKE ED BRADLEY NOT HAVE A CLUE THAT 9/11 WAS A NEOCON INSIDE JOB??? WHY DOES HE HELP PERPETUATE THE LIES OF 9/11??? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE LIKE HIM???

There will be a screening of

There will be a screening of Loose Change 2 and a talk by David Shayler and Annie Machon at Oxford Brookes University on Thursday 30th March.

Did anyone catch the tv

Did anyone catch the tv movie Time Bomb on CBS sunday night? It's mostly drivel with David Arquette as the lead. A valiant band of Homeland Security types are working to foil an evil arab plot to blow up a stadium of football fans watching a game between Wash and N.O. But it turns out that the plot is an inside job. But I had to laugh when I recognized in some scenes there appears a video of a stadium being demolished on monitors in the background. It looks like the stadium demolishment video from the lecture by Steve Jones.

Are what some people call pods actually a missile with a holographic jet cloak?


REPORT FROM L.A., SAT. MAR. 18. Where were you guys?

I loaded up my sign (Stop The 9/11 Cover-up on one side / Bush Knew on the other). I took with me about 150 Deception Dollars and an equal number of mini info cards and the better Remarkable Facts cards with Bldg. 7 pictured. I was running a little late when I got to Hollywood & Highland where the stage and booths were set up. I decided to hop on the Metro to get down to Hollywood & Vine where the march was to start. I ran into a nice man down there who had the same idea I did. He asked me where my friends were and we lamented on their lack of interest. When we got on, a couple people were curious about what was happening and said they were with us in spirit. I noticed there were others on-board with signs.

As soon as I came up the stairs, I saw Mike Farrell standing there talking to someone. He had on a NYPD cap. I got the chance to say: Mike Farrell, can I give you this, and he said: Of course you can. I didn't want to interrupt him any further. The march hadn't started yet and I walked around handing a few of my flyers out. I gave one to a near-naked guy, but then I realized that he didn't have a place to put it. He tried to explain, but it seemed that all he could do was grunt. So far, no other Truthers with signs. A policeman was making one guy take his sign off the stick because it was too big.

The march started, and I joined in, staying on the outside where I thought my rather large sign would be most visible. This is when I really started with the handouts. I always try to make sure the cops at the intersections see my sign, as I flash them my subtle-pleading-look. One cop took the Remarkable Facts card, but most would say: No thank you. Have a nice day sir. I wish I could get up the nerve to try and start a conversation with these guys, but I am still kind of new at this.

I put a card and dollar on a KTLA/WB van windshield and gave one to a reporter. She looked a little befuddled, adjusting her skirt and I don't know where the cameraman was. I said: You need to report on this! (I was interviewed last Nov., but that reporter didn't want to talk about 9/11)

Along the way, I had a few good conversations with people. Some who knew a little about Bldg. 7 and were interested to learn more. Then, I met a man who had lost his partner to a lung related illness in NYC. He wanted to know what I thought really happened. I walked with him the rest of the way. He was also a (small plane) pilot and told me that his partner had wanted to fly over the WTC site one more time before he died. It was just amazing, and we talked about all kinds of stuff.

Then I realized Maxine Waters was speaking and I wanted to get closer to the stage with my sign, but I was a little late. Then I made my way over to the sunny side of the street where I think my sign was pretty visible. This is where I ran into the only other Truther with a sign that I saw (Re-open 9/11). I recognized him from the reconvening of the L.A. Citizen's Grand Jury. We were glad to see each other! I said at least there's two of us. I also recognized a filmaker on the stage who I know is hip to 9/11. He probably got my sign. I was in the perfect spot to hand out more stuff as alot of tourists walked by. And I talked to another couple who were very interested in the Pentagon. The Bush/Pope puppet was incredible!

When the crowd started to thin out, I stopped by to say hello to Sofia at the Move-on Moron booth (I buy her mini-cards). She has alot of 9/11 Truth materials, but I wish there had been a booth exclusively devoted to the subject. (I could elaborate, but I won't).

I left shortly after that. I may have dropped a couple DDs walking through the mall on the way back to my truck where I found a CD on my windshield: Dear Mr. President. A rather satisfying day. I did what I could.

So there's a sketchy report on the day's events. Hope it wasn't too long.

I want to see V for

I want to see V for Vendetta.

On the other hand, the 60 Mins. segment on Bush re-writing science was very good. I was thinking discouraging thoughts about the NY police state story also.

Celebrities. Celebrities. Celebrities. There is a group in L.A. that is working on this. They have been in contact with some big names. Keep your fingers crossed. Charlie Sheen? Hmmm.

Amanda: You are busy!

Amanda: You are busy! That's all. index.html

The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll

Sitting-Bull | 03.20.06 - 1:58 pm |


Hit Piece.

Oklahoma City Bombing News

3500 viewed Loose Change 2

3500 viewed Loose Change 2 on my homepage since I posted it there 3 weeks ago. Again, I've got no commercial interest, just want to get the word out.

The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll

The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll - New York Magazine Covers The 9/11 Truth Movement

I don't know if this is a hit piece, I haven't read it yet.

Loose change doesn't do it

Loose change doesn't do it for me. The 18 minute timeline on google video from Mike Ruppert hits home in my book.

Just a new view on WT7 and

Just a new view on WT7 and some good views of explosives at work inside a building.

DabeesUK: Nice vid. "Oslo"


Nice vid. "Oslo" is the capital in Norway, and where I live. Norwegians sure know how to demolish a building. Too bad americans just know how to fire-down buildings. Explosives is fun....

Jon Gold, that MP3 you

Jon Gold, that MP3 you posted of the TV media news reports on the three unexploded explosive devices at the Murrah federal building sounds like it was extracted from the first part of the documentary 911: the Road to Tyranny by Alex Jones. People can view that documentary in full for free at one of the links at the bottom of this post.

Also concerning the Oklahoma City bombing, see the below links:

"The Oklahoma City Bombing--PROOF there were additional explosive charges," Oklahoma City Bombing page:

"Bomb Damage Analysis Of Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building" by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, retired Commander of the U.S. Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory, July 30, 1995:

"Was FBI early arrival in Oklahoma City?--Hotel receipt shows top terror man showed up 9 hours before blast," Jon Dougherty,, January 19, 2002:

Iraqis were definitely involved in the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City. There is quite a lot of evidence demonstrating this. We even know the names of some of those Iraqis, like Al-Hussaini Hussain, who was also working as a baggage-handler at Boston's Logan International Airport during the 9/11 attacks, which is where American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175 originated from.

Al-Hussaini Hussain is the person that witnesses identify as John Doe No. 2 who was with Timothy McVeigh in dropping off the Ryder truck in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal building. He was arrested by the FBI trying to leave the U.S. and his release was ordered by Bill Clinton through the Justice Department. Found in his custody during that arrest was the blue jogging suit that witnesses described.

Al-Hussaini Hussain is former Iraqi Republican Guard, and four other former Iraqi Republican Guard members were arrested soon after the bombing of the Murrah Federal building, but their release was ordered by Bill Clinton. These former Iraqi Republican Guard members are part of the 3,500+ Iraqi military members and their family brought into the U.S. after the Gulf War by George Bush, Sr. and further continued by Bill Clinton. For more on this transfer of Iraqi military into the U.S., see the below major media news articles:

"Iraq POWs Paid to Resettle in U.S.; Lawmakers Protest," Richard A. Serrano, Los Angeles Times, August 24, 1993:

"Resettling Iraqi POWs in U.S. Criticized; Lawmakers Urge Clinton to End 'Potentially Dangerous' Policy," William Claiborne, Washington Post, August 25, 1993:

Many of the confiscated tapes of the twelve video survailance cameras that were in front of the Murrah Federal building record exactly what witnesses described: Al-Hussaini Hussain dropping off the Ryder truck with Timothy McVeigh--Al-Hussaini Hussain as the passenger and Timothy McVeigh as the driver. And this according to high-level FBI sources who have seen the tapes, as quoted by the Los Angeles Times and Oklahoma City KFOR-TV news. These video survailance tapes were confiscated by the U.S. government under the National Security Act.

For more on this evidence which I have been relating to you, I urge you to watch at least the first part (which deals with the Oklahoma City bombing) of the video documentary "911: The Road to Tyranny" by political talk radio host Alex Jones, of which can be viewed below in its entirety for free:

And see:

"Search For The Missing Iraqis: Ask Daddy Bush And Clinton" by Wade Inganamort:

See also:

"The real story of Iraqis at OKC bombing. Not the one you think!":

As well, see the below book which is online in its entirety and for free:

The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror by David Hoffman, foreward by Oklahoma State Representative Charles Key (Feral House; 1998), ISBN: 0-922915-49-0 (0922915490):

The above book by David Hoffman is very thoroughly referenced, and is introduced by Oklahoma State Rep. Charles Key. For more on this book and its author, see the below webpage:


For more on government-staged terrorism, see the below post by me:

"Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005:


911: the Road to Tyranny:

Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove:

Police State 2000:

Police State II: The Takeover:

Police State III: Total Enslavement:

Martial Law 9/11: Rise Of The Police State:

Masters of Terror:

Yes James, but I actually

Yes James, but I actually grabbed it from Michael Wolsey's show this week...

Thanks Wesley. But not to

Thanks Wesley. But not to sound patronising, I know where Oslo is, my Uncle passed away there. He Designed oil rigs. And the demolition was by a UK company. But that isn't the issue, the issue is that the demolition looks like WTC7 and has some great footage of demolition from views unseen. Sorry if i sound a little irritable, but i've just done a 20 hour shift. Keep up the good work all.

Sorry I went off on Ed

Sorry I went off on Ed Bradley a bit much (above). It's just frustrating that "a nobody" like me became well informed about 9/11, but so many hardcore journalists, scientists, activists, peaceniks, etc., won't even acknowledge the possibility of an inside job.

I don't mind, Jon Gold.

I don't mind, Jon Gold. That's what Alex Jones wants, is for people to spread the information in his documentary videos far and wide. That's why Alex Jones tells people to make as many copies of his documentaries as possible and pass them out to others for free.

I purpose of me posting my previous entry was so that people here could follow up that MP3 you posted with more documentation.

I feel the same way

I feel the same way regarding 60 minutes..

Excuse me, in my previous

Excuse me, in my previous post the second paragraph should read "The purpose," not "I purpose."

Defamation suit threatened

Defamation suit threatened against Alex Jones (PARODY):

dz, have you been getting my


have you been getting my emails? I might be having trouble with my email account, and don't know if any messages slipped through


Hey Jon Am I reading this

Hey Jon

Am I reading this right...

Professional Demolition Company spokesman John Imhoff said "Consumers of demolition services would wrongly believe from Mr. Jones' remarks that the services we provided on 9/11 were not professional. In fact, this was a difficult job, and we did it as instructed."

Weird statement


Where is that from?

Where is that from? Sorry...

Hey JG - from your Alex

Hey JG - from your Alex Jones Lawsuit link ;)


Hehe a007, watch that Monday

Hehe a007, watch that Monday Effect! That was posted by GeorgeWashington, and he added the word (PARODY) after it :)

... unless the Monday Effect has got me...

ok, me dumb :) had me going

ok, me dumb :)

had me going for a minute, looked convincing


Revised press

George... :) If you'd called

George... :)

If you'd called him Imehoff versus Imhoff... I would have clocked it ;)



AUDIO: Alex Jones Interviews

AUDIO: Alex Jones Interviews Charlie Sheen - March 20, 2006

9MB, 39 minutes, seems to be ad-free. Thanks Alex!!

Another spokesperson is

Another spokesperson is named B. Lou Atupp

this 9/11 diary has made to

this 9/11 diary has made to the top of the recommended list!!!:

get on over there and make some havoc.

Charlie Sheen you da man!

Charlie Sheen you da man! Great quotes! Keep it up. Somebody grab this guy! Make him an offer he can't refuse!

Im shocked by Charlie Sheen

Im shocked by Charlie Sheen showing some major balls. Good to see.

just submitted the ad to

just submitted the ad to for $800, thanks to everyone who contributed! hopefully it will be up shortly.

Hey Ray, I tried to get an

Hey Ray,
I tried to get an email to you but apparently you have a black url here in Canada. RE:
The original message was received at Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:54:01 -0600
from []

_____ The following addresses had permanent fatal errors _____

(reason: 554 5.7.1 This message has been blocked because it contains FortiSpamshield blocking URL(s).(black url

_____ Transcript of session follows _____
... while talking to
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Good one here is the

Good one here is the rest:
>>> DATA

Oh, please ... > ... while

Oh, please ...
> ... while talking to
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Can someone help me on this

Can someone help me on this one please? I have seen several websites that outline radar 'holes' ie areas of non-coverage of the 911 flights. I am a little but nonplussed by all of this. I've always understood that when the transponders were turned off that this only removed (a)flight id and (b) flight heights but that the position and horizontal movements of the flights were still continuously apparent to both FAA and NORAD radar. (I am further lead to believe that NORAD had more sophisticated radar that could follow the plane height as well).

My understanding is that the planes were always continuously apparent on radar to the authorities.

I am an Australian and we have a very large continent here and the entire continent - comparable to the US itself - is fully covered by just 2 or 3 radar bases. So radar 'holes' sounds like a very unlikely story to me.

But I am prepared to stand corrected on this. Can anyone tell me if there were radar 'holes'in the US on 911?

Were these planes 'lost to authorities' at any stage?


Great example of the use of

Great example of the use of taxpayer dollars. Back channels in process.

holes in the radar

"Search For The Missing

"Search For The Missing Iraqis: Ask Daddy Bush And Clinton" by Wade Inganamort:

Hey, that's me. LOL