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excellent! excellent!! excell

excellent!
excellent!!
excellent!!!

oh ya, the Visibility 9/11

oh ya, the Visibility 9/11 show with Michael Wolsey from tonight is available, you can grab it here:

http://www.visibility911.libsyn.com/

here is what it covered:
This podcast takes a look at some of the 200+ Smoking Guns of 9-11 found in the Mainstream Media.

We need to contact Oprah

We need to contact Oprah about this. She is a very powerful individual and has control over what the topics on her show are concerning. I saw this today

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_truth_calling_oprah.html

I sent her an e-mail today.

"This podcast takes a look

"This podcast takes a look at some of the 200+ Smoking Guns of 9-11 found in the Mainstream Media. "

one of my favorite 9/11 sites!

Is Arianna Huffington

Is Arianna Huffington jumping on the 9/11 Truth Train?!?!?!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/20-more-questions-for-p...

8.) Why did it take less than two weeks after the unveiling of Janet Jackson's right boob at the Super Bowl before the GOP Congress held hearings on the matter, but 14 months before you caved to public pressure and allowed the 9/11 Commission to be formed? Had the 9/11 widows not pressured you to form the commission, would you ever have done it?

9.) Why wasn't your testimony to the 9/11 commission under oath? Why did you insist on having Dick Cheney in the room with you?

anyone catch the daily show

anyone catch the daily show tonight? i just missed what Stewart said after showing the Andrew Card and Bush 9/11 clip in the classroom..

Arianna Huffington appears

Arianna Huffington appears on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher every so often, a live TV show. But Bill Maher is one of the "incompetence" pushers, not even LIHOP

Wow. What a clear cut case

Wow. What a clear cut case for lack of any thorough investigation. It's been nearly five years since!

More Remains Discovered Near WTC Site

And if I've learned one lesson this week, it's burn a bunch of copies of LC2E (or your preferred 9/11T doc) and get out on the streets. The kiddies love it!

Loose Change is pretty much

Loose Change is pretty much what convinced me. I had seen a short flash video about the pentagon that sparked my interest. But Loose Change led me to do alot of research.

GOOGLE ADS link at the

GOOGLE ADS link at the botttom of SFGATE Page is how I got to 911blogger just now.
the ad:
9/11 Blogger - 9/11 News
Pay attention to 9/11 related news. Ask questions, demand answers.
www.911blogger.com
the site i was at:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2006/03/29/notes03...

Great reading! Please feel

Great reading!

Please feel free to thank Mark Morford for this:
mmorford@sfgate.com

Why did the Media take no

Why did the Media take no notice from what sharon stone said?
Charlie Sheen for President!
Best Regards from Good Old Europe,

Dondon

Here is my question: When

Here is my question: When are we going to realize that the Left Gatekeepers are actually NSA assets? And the fact that they are ignoring the obvious facts about 9-11 is part of a coordinated effort?

Noam Chomsky still claims that 19 hijackers with a passion for Allah brought down the steel towers at freefall speed. He chastises anyone who suggests a coverup as "damaging the Left." This despite numerous emails I have had with him exposing the evidence.

Amy Goodman, the so-called "radical" of DemocracyNow, is another NSA agent posing as a activist. She is happy to wax about dead-end antiwar stories, but will never address 9-11, the Bilderberg, the CFR, chemtrails, or any of the deep politics that might push her viewers down the rabbit hole.

This is also true with Arundhati Roy, Alexander Cockburn, Z Magazine, The Nation, and the rest of these phony magazines which are Operation Mockingbird CIA/NSA ops.

They discuss 10% of what's happening and people think they are bastions of truth. But in reality they are "re-direct agents" who castrate social movements by pushing people into dead end issues and setting the outer limit of acceptable dissent.

According to Chomsky, JFK was assassinated by a lone gunman, the Bilderberg is just a social club, and the 9-11 official story is 100% true. He pushes the "blowback" theory that America had it coming because of our foreign policy.

And in reality, when one examines Chomsky, we see an NSA agent who is willing to expose CIA crimes from 40 years ago but unwilling to discuss MK ULTRA. A man who whines about the WTO but then offers a world government under the UN as the solution.

Too awful to be true? Read this article which exposes Chomsky and the gatekeepers to the light of day.

http://www.rense.com/general67/noam.htm

We need to start taking these phony NSA agent leftist fronts to task!

Please feel free to thank

Please feel free to thank Mark Morford for this:
mmorford@sfgate.com
Sitting-Bull | 03.29.06 - 5:49 am | #

Better yet, for those in the SF area, write a supportive Letter to the Editor of the SF Chronicle (keep it under 200 words).

So here is my brilliant

So here is my brilliant idea. 911Blogger should focus on one Left Gatekeeper per day and slam them will email until they acknowledge we exist.

How about on Thursday we post Chomsky's email (chomsky@mit.edu) and encourage everyone to send him the facts about 9-11?

Does he have the gall to ignore us all? And if he does, will he unwittingly confirm that he is nothing but a controlled asset of the globalist shadow government while posing as an "anarchist radical?"

Then on Friday we focus on Amy Goodman. Saturday? Arundhati Roy. And so on. Lets force these NSA assets to either refute our facts or risk exposing themselves and their true agenda (destroying any legitimate awakening amongst the politically conscious portion of the USA)

shivers

well i dont think that they

well i dont think that they are NSA spys. I more as so believe that they are cowards, or at best scared of failure

Shivers you are WRONG just

Shivers you are WRONG just because some people dont share the same view as you doent mean that they are a gate keeper. Your accusations are baseless! NSA spy HA! Just listen to yourself. Left gate keeper day. what a waste of time we should be rallying in public to get attention from the media not sitting behind out computers and TYPING insults.

Cowards? Chomsky KNOWS that

Cowards? Chomsky KNOWS that 7 of the accused hijackers are alive, yet he still peddles his "19 hijackers" official story nonsense.

This from a supposed anarchist radical?

He is more than a coward. This has happened hundreds of times on every issue of importance. 9-11 is not the first time these gatekeepers have exposed themselves as undercover assets. I encourage you to read the article.

To call Chomsky a "coward" is far too naive. When we examine the entirety of his career, his agenda becomes frighteningly clear.

And he is just the tip of the Gatekeeper iceberg. These people are consciously avoiding the facts on 911 because if 15+ million leftists wake up, we might actually have a chance of removing the shadow government that planned the mass murder of nearly 3,000 Americans.

And Chomsky's job is to ensure that social-justice movement remain impotent and removed from reality.

Lets be honest with the harsh truth about the absence of the left. It's more than simple avoidance. It's on the orders of their bosses.

shivers.

Yizzo, I think that's closer

Yizzo, I think that's closer on the money as well. What the left gatekeepers don't realize is that they've been brainwashed and controlled by the Karl Rove types, just like everybody else. That said, I do believe there are some who are AWARE and continue lying. At any rate, their time is coming -- 9/11 truth is breaking open.

OMG, that piece by Mark

OMG, that piece by Mark Morford is absolutely incredible. dz, somebigguy, you should feature the ENTIRE article at the top of your page. I wrote Mark Morford a thank you. Here it is:


Dear Mr. Morford,

I can barely believe what I'm reading in your latest piece "Long Live the 9/11 Conspiracy!" I've always enjoyed your writing, but this -- this, is absolutely the best piece I've ever seen on 9/11 truth. Nobody has made the case better, in such a short space. I'm absolutely blown away.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll be forwarding this around to everyone I know. Keep up the excellent work!

Sincerely,

CitizenKit

article here: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2006/03/29/notes03...

e-mail Mark Morford here: mmorford@sfgate.com

doh, i deleted someones post

doh, i deleted someones post by accident trying to remove a spam post.. sorry to whoever it was.. it was a comment within the last 10 or so minutes.. sorry!

Shivers Citizen kit the

Shivers Citizen kit the concept of the left gate keepers as nsa or other agency operatives such as goodman may not be that far off. take a look at the stoplying site http://www.stoplying.ca/ Psytops part. And also though off topic take a look at "END GAME as well a good reason to join thoe protest of the immigration bill

it's official.. Tommy Lee

it's official.. Tommy Lee has no brain cells

"Tommy Lee to Help Denise Richards Get Over Charlie Sheen"

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27264424.shtml

What an amazing article in

What an amazing article in SFGate!!!

If we can get it into a good format, I beleive this THE PERFECT FLYER WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!
Just enoegh information to peak anybodies interest and it sends you in the right direction to get further information.

In color, one sheet would be the best.

Is there a copy right issue? Do they care? Do we care?

How about a mass mailing? Just the article nothing else.

This is BULLSHIT. Who can

Nobody cares what

Nobody cares what ultraleftwingers think. So instead, here's a joke:

Philip Dru, Abraham Zapruder and Mike Ruppert walk into a bar. The bartender asks, 'Why is Jon Gold such a link whore?'

RE: Amy Goodman: I emailed

RE: Amy Goodman:

I emailed Democracy Now asking why they have no open forums: I got a reply that that is not a service they offer, but they take comments at such and such.

AAR: Springer & Franken:

Springer definitely a Gate Keeper. Fucking annoying listening to his whiney voice talking about everything but reality.

Franken: Harvard Grad Ultra-Gatekeeper never addressing 911 or questioning that there are terrorists & all the other government propaganda. Both he & Springer constantly talk about bigger & bigger national programs, port security, etc, which have nothing to do with reality again.

Franken & Goodman both are Harvard Grads. What secret or otherwise nefarious organizations are out of Harvard? S&B is Yale...

"Nobody cares what

"Nobody cares what ultraleftwingers think. So instead, here's a joke:

Philip Dru, Abraham Zapruder and Mike Ruppert walk into a bar. The bartender asks, 'Why is Jon Gold such a link whore?'"

Hey dipshit, did you know your President passed a law that says you have to reveal your true name to me if you're going to insult me? Trolling is now a Federal Crime.

What's your name? dz, what's his IP address, and his ISP?

New Yorkers to Gather at CNN

New Yorkers to Gather at CNN Studios 'Demonstration of Gratitude' Wednesday, March 29, 2006

New York friends of 9/11 truth and justice call for "Demonstration of Gratitude" at Time-Warner Center in NYC on 3/29/06, thanking CNN for coverage of Charlie Sheen's bold comments questioning the 'official line' on 9/11. "Showbiz Tonight" aired three nights of coverage of the issue, marking the first time mass media has looked into the myriad questions surrounding 9/11/01 in a reasonable manner. A series of events are held in NYC, featuring researchers and authors presenting information about this issue.

i think that were lucky that

i think that were lucky that there isnt a large group that we are all a part of... these evil doers need to play both sides and without a large group to take control of or crush they find themselfs fucked....

just look at the black panthers....

chumpsky cant figure it out

chumpsky cant figure it out but zinn can?? HAHAH!!! come on...

you dont find it funny that none of these smart lefties have any questions about 911???? i sure do..

HAHAH!!!! what about churchill??? he says its racist to say that arabs couldnt have pulled 911 off.... thats funny....

"I do! You DON'T POST

"I do! You DON'T POST ENOUGH!"

Ok then.

No problem at all... Go

No problem at all...

Go Ahead JG... It's fine by me considering all your efforts. ;)

The only moaners are the shill'tastic crew :)

Cheers

Sheesh Gold calm down. You

Sheesh Gold calm down. You ARE in the habit of posting many links to your website here, no?

(How do you know who anyone's president it?)

What about the part of nobody caring about the hard left?

Great, once again a thread

Great, once again a thread is bogged down by silliness and "gatekeeper" accusations.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see Chomsky called an NSA agent - which, really, is beyond silly. The man has spent his life pointing out government-perpetrated violence upon the world, and has gotten a lot of flak for it - from the right and the left, both of which he calls out, and neither of which he pledges allegiance to. No one should be surprised that he's not jumping into 9/11 investigation, because he's a historian/linguist, not a scientist, and his work is filled with rigorous references - working with hypotheticals, as is the case with much 9/11 research, is not his genre.

Can we at least for a moment stop labeling every single person that doesn't exactly do what you want them to as a "gatekeeper", "disinfo agent", etc?

"Sheesh Gold calm down. You

"Sheesh Gold calm down. You ARE in the habit of posting many links to your website here, no?

(How do you know who anyone's president it?)

What about the part of nobody caring about the hard left?"

What's your name?

Anybody else have a problem

Anybody else have a problem with me posting links to my site?

I do! You DON'T POST ENOUGH!

I do! You DON'T POST ENOUGH!

Radical Pragmatist --

Radical Pragmatist -- agreed! That article by Morford today is just incredible. I could easily put it together into an Adobe PDF file for one-page printing, but I don't know what the copyright issues are.... so, I won't do that without SF Gate's permission. Anybody want to inquire with Morford or the SF Gate about this idea?

gold can post all the links

gold can post all the links he wants... at least he has a name!!!! why cant anyone type in a name... just make it hfdshalhdsjhds...

Yeah, Jon, don't let the

Yeah, Jon, don't let the Blue Meanies get to you. Keep up the great work!

For a bigger look at the

For a bigger look at the bigger puzzle, for real truth seekers you need to see Russo's movie, It cover's quite a bit in a short time " well worth seeing
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/index.html flyers and schedules can also be seen here:http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Update2006-03-28.htm
Talk about Hollywood coming to life...

Thanks all.

Thanks all.

gold, are you going to get

gold, are you going to get any work done today??? HAHAHHA!!! its funny that someone pays you.....

Working now...

Working now...

When I watch this clip

When I watch this clip repeat (ua175-1-a.swf),
I see two missiles flying in formation.
They appear off center from each other
within the projected fuselage image.
One missile appears before the projected
wing image,and the second missile appears
after the projected wing image.

You can find the file here in the far right column:
http://nineeleven2001.tripod.com/images/

In any event, the clip clearly shows
that the image of the plane is just that,
an image and not a real plane. Real
planes burst into a fireball upon impact
and scatter debris.

Here is what a distinguished and well known
9/11 researcher has to say about this file
in an email to me.

"good job :) Proves again no outer wall reactions.
This is from the post 9/11 clip (after 10:45 AM)
from Scott Myers (NIST). I will keep that in my presentations."

http://www.kucinich.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6282

Maybe we should arm ourselves with box cutters
and take this protest from the Internet and into
the streets. Or better yet, corner the market on
box cutters and take over the world!

Speaking of the real world. How many copies of
Loose Change 2 did you make and distribute today?

Cleveland Rocks!
http://www.clevelandskyline.com/Webb_Rock_Hall_c3_large.jpg
http://thewebfairy.com/911/nicknack/

The Beast Reawakens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_Reawakens

Minister.DFAT@dfat.gov.au

"what about

"what about churchill???"

You mean Ward? If there's one superloser in all of this, it's Ward Churchill. Not only does he accept the official story, he blames America for forcing the arab terrorists into a situation where doing something like that is acceptable! I hope he has a serious meltdown when 9-11 Truth becomes widely accepted.

Apropos, does anybody

Apropos, does anybody actually care what the latest no-plane red herring is?

Anonymous, I don't care and

Anonymous, I don't care and in fact I think the no-plane theories are as out-there as "aliens did 9/11" and hurt the truth movement.

Fortunately, Mark Morford does an EXCELLENT job of putting this stuff in its proper place.

From Morford's piece:

Verily, Jacobson, in his New York mag piece, encounters crackpots and fringe nutballs and those who think Sept. 11 was connected to aliens and electromagnetic fields and the Illuminati. It can, unfortunately, get a little crazy. But there is also a very smart, grounded, intelligent and surprisingly large faction -- which includes eyewitnesses, Sept. 11 widows, former generals, pilots, professors, engineers, WTC maintenance workers and many, many more -- who point to a rather shocking pile of evidence that says there is simply no way 19 fanatics with box cutters sent by some bearded lunatic in a cave could have pulled off the most perfectly orchestrated air attack of the century. Not without serious help, anyway.

And, these smart, grounded, and intelligent people are the very ones who are taking the 9/11 truth movement forward.

I do believe there are left

I do believe there are left gatekeepers out there, but since we have no proof one way or another which ones are deliberate gatekeepers and which ones are gatekeepers by default, or which ones are just morons, cowards, or perhaps have had their lives threatened, we shouldnt label them all as gatekeepers. I prefer cowards. And I do like the other posters idea of singling out one of them each day and emailing them.

Jon--the more links the more

Jon--the more links the more we can easily get around the web to see & learn more. Keep it up!

Inside--Great point! Chumpsky can't figure out 9/11 but loads of plain Joes/Janes can??? I don't buy it for a second. Also, in the circles that Chumpsky travels, tell me that numerous "lefties" haven't suggested LIHOP/MIHOP to him many times? Chumpsky won't even address the issue, he even acts pissed. He is a fraud at best.

Franken may run for senate.

Franken may run for senate. He has to play the game. What Franken says is, "I don't want to believe" or "I can accept" - He doesn't say it isn't true, he admits to his own boundries. He doesn't want to feel the anger.

I'm not a mental health expert but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

frankien can blow me!!!! his

frankien can blow me!!!! his family was good friends with the wellstones and he says nothing about his death??? HAHAH!!! its all just too strange if you ask me...

Franken and Chomsky are not

Franken and Chomsky are not the enemies. Reality is a fragile thing for most humans.

Is everyone familiar with the concept of duality. I don't think most of the democrats are that different from the republicans but if the democrats win the house then someone I respect, Congressman Conyers, will be head of the judiciary committee with suponea power. He will promptly appoint Cynthia McKinney to begin a new investigation of 9/11.

Life is a one big negotiation. We just need to keep trying to push the boat in the right direction.

I hope that Ms. Clinton doesn't run but if faced with a choice of her and some wing nut, guess who I'm voting for. My god, she's competent, what an improvement.

Given that Chomsky doesn't

Given that Chomsky doesn't get very much mainstream US coverage, worrying about his role as a gatekeeper is secondary, or even tertiary.

I've been reading Chomsky for 20 years, but I also stopped taking any one author's word as gospel 19 1/2 years ago. I also know other Chomsky "fans" who also dismiss his 9/11 take, and we're all of the opinion that it's more about the worldview he's boxed himself into for the past quarter century than any paycheque/threats he gets from the NSA. One just has to look at the comments sections of many so-called "left gatekeeper" websites to see links to a number of 9/11 truth sites.

(and a heckuva lot of links to the google video Loose Change II stream).

This also applies to the few protests I have attended. I've run into a number of 9/11 truthers, and though only chatted and exchanged links (and handed out flyers), they're there, and growing.

This suggest that a fair percentage of "lefties" AREN'T sheeple.

In short, get the truth (or at least the questions) in the mainstream newsmind, and it forces the "alternative" media (left AND right) to look at it, not the reverse.

Also, Ward Churchill is an

Also, Ward Churchill is an expert on covert operations, CIA, FBI, COINTELPRO, etc. How can he figure out & expose these very complex issues, yet be clueless on 9/11 truth??? I can't understand this nor do I believe it. (If "scholars" like Churchill & Chompsky would at least talk about some possible LIHOP, the debate could spread quite far.)

bozo, I've voted Democratic

bozo, I've voted Democratic all my life, and I understand where you're coming from. But, think about the fact that Hillary and most of the Democrats are simply the LESSER of the evils. They're still evil (I consider war to be an evil and dispicable thing -- and Hillary and many of the Democrats are clearly hawks).

I used to be angry at Ralph Nader because he drew votes away from Gore and Kerry. That was when I believed that the Democrats could "save" us and change our country's foolish direction. I no longer believe that. Kerry gave in too quickly (very suspiciously, I might add) and ran a shameful campaign, playing right in to the lies of the "war on terror." Even Howard Dean believed we needed to stay in Iraq once we were there. Nope, not good enough.

If neither party is good enough, what's the alternative? Well, 9/11 truth is the key to bringing about a political and media revolution in this country. When enough people see through the lies, the powers that be can no longer continue to hypnotize all of us. That may lead to a revolution -- and, my hope is that it will be a peaceful revolution to change the majority of congress AND the media, to bring accountability and real checks and balances back into the system. Remember investigative journalism? Long gone.

Back to Ralph Nader. Here's an interesting open letter to him that I came across yesterday:

The Cowards Path
An open letter to Ralph Nader
By Linda H Riegler
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12523.htm

One of the problems with

One of the problems with trusting people is that we're all online. I don't know any of you from a hole in the wall, and you don't know me, or each other (in most cases). Therefore, it's best to be skeptical of an individual until you get to know them, see what they do, and what they post/promote, etc... that's the best we can do.

Have a "Velvet

Have a "Velvet Revolution"

Their the best :)

erm didn't Hillary off Vince

erm didn't Hillary off Vince Foster? Her fingerprints were on the "suicide" note, IIRC. She's a bigtime power elite insider in any case, bad juju.

Speaking of alternative media, the only real disappointment I have is with The New American, their 9-11 backstab from a while back was unpleasant. :(

Picture it in your mind: the

Picture it in your mind: the masses crammed together in a giant cage, a prison in which those inside of it can not see the bars.

The further right you go inside the cage, the wider and more dense the bars get, and the closer you get to Bush, Ann Coulter, Hitler, Jerry Falwell, etc.

The further you go left inside the cage, you see Al Fraken, Al Gore, Howard Dean, etc.

Certain people inside the cage can every now and then hear noises coming from outside of it, and sometimes, the bars that were always there become visible to them. Once you recognize the bars, you peer out through them and you find Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky, standing dangling keys in front of your eyes and beckoning you wake up and escape. They open the door and let you out, and give you lots of information on the cage and whats outside of it, but when you demand answers on who put you there they'll tell you it was a result of gross incompetence. Many people will be stuck in the hallway arguing with Chomsky and Moore, but just off in the distance, you hear more noises: its Alex Jones, David Ray Griffin and the real 9/11 skeptics team, beckoning you to wake up.

Eh, I tried to write something good but I lost it. :p

FYI... the CNN march is

FYI... the CNN march is taking place now. Hopefully, it will have some kind of affect, and MAYBE tonight's show will have a surprise. Somehow, I doubt it.

Chomsky, Churchill, & many

Chomsky, Churchill, & many others of their radical ilk have spent their lives teaching that the Gov't is EVIL, OPPRESSIVE, DESTROYS, KILLS, etc., etc., Then 9/11 happens, and they accept the Gov't absurd "offical story" without question. WTF is going on with these guys???

what's the attendance

what's the attendance looking like, in the CNN demonstration?

To: CitizenKit & Andi--Very

To: CitizenKit & Andi--Very good postings above!

1. lession of CoIntelPro:

1. lession of CoIntelPro:

Accuse other members of the infiltrated group of beeing CoIntelPro to provide distrust.

I don't know who showed

I don't know who showed up... I'll find out later tonight.

I'm not accusing Churchill,

I'm not accusing Churchill, Chomsky, of being COINTELPRO, I just want them to at least mention that some people belive 9/11 was something other than what the gov't told us. Is this too much to ask from these guys?

Because if you think the

Because if you think the Powers that be wouldn't employ individuals to put a crimp in our efforts, you are SORELY mistaken.

How hard would it be to employ 10 people who sit in a room full of computers to scour the internet all day posting nonsense about 9/11, etc...? Not very hard.

Is this too much to ask from

Is this too much to ask from these guys...who have themselves spent their entire lives questioning the gov't on everything else but 9/11???

Jon--How hard would it be to

Jon--How hard would it be to employ 10 people who sit in a room full of computers to scour the internet all day posting nonsense about 9/11, etc...? Not very hard.

Excellent point! You took the words right out of my mouth. I am quite certain that this, and more, is being done to obstruct the truth movement.

@ Jon: Even if I don't know

@ Jon: Even if I don't know you personal, I'll can judge about your person online as well.

It's a little bit harder, taken the fact that ironic or sarcastic word meanings are more difficult to unterstand, but, after all, possible.

E.g. there's no reason for me to distrust you, I'll appreciate your work and your efforts.

Even if you were on a gov' paycheck- as long as you bring the 911 truth movement forward, it just doesn't matter.

(no way meaning you were!)

So, who's trying to bring distrust to us, instead of attacking the real perpetrators, and bringing forward the 911 truth movement?

And the 10 agents could each

And the 10 agents could each have dozens of different screen names.

Mark Morford Rocks!

Mark Morford Rocks!

Hi all, I'm searching for

Hi all,

I'm searching for videos of the plane hitting the South Tower. I'm especially interested in the one in which the plane is seen approaching it from the opposite side of the tower, ie from the front of the plane.

So far I've come up with sites analyzing photos of the planes upon impact. I'm currently not interested in that. All I want is all the different video footage shown of the plane hitting the tower. Thanks in advance for help.

I posted the Morford story

I posted the Morford story in a discussion thread at a Left Gatekeeper site, smirkingchimp.com.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=64251&forum=12

generally the admins there lock/delete 911 Truth threads. But they've posted many Morford articles to their main page in the past (search "Mark Morford" in the search window, upper left); so it'll be curious to see how they deal with this bombshell article, from their trusty old friend MM.

vesa, www.terrorize.dk

vesa,

www.terrorize.dk should have those videos

I'm paid to be here. dz

I'm paid to be here. dz pays me.

dz, about all of the videos

dz, about all of the videos there are in slow motion or are cropped etc. I'd like to find completely unmodified videos (or as unmodified as the published videos were).

Any other sites? I remember seeing a good video on Google, but of course I can't find it any longer...

Vesa: this site has

Frederique, smirkingchimp,

Frederique,

smirkingchimp, eh?

I did my yeoman's service there;
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=9%2F11+reprehensor&num=10&hl=en&btnG=G...

There will be one poster, called "cewillir" who will come along, start throwing feces, and cause the thread to be closed.

Tiedrich should ban him, and allow open discussion of 9/11 skepticism.

ST911 actually ran a blog ad there last month. He had no problem taking their ad money.

But he lets the troll "cewillir" shat on everyone's 9/11 party, whether it be speculation, theory or fact.

A great story by Mark

A great story by Mark Morford in the San Francisco Chronicle today on the 9/11 cover-up.

Link:

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/

Here is your must-read for the month. Here is your oh-my-God-I'm-sending-this-piece-to-every-smart-person-I-know hunk of outstanding, distressing, disquieting media bliss.

OK....I have to brag about

OK....I have to brag about my hometown....

San Francisco fucking rocks!!!! Mark Morford is my hero!!!!

I have a new reason to be proud of where I live. Seems like the city is livin' up to it's reputation!!

andi, that cage metaphor

andi, that cage metaphor story was excellent -- keep 'em coming!

Cheryl, yes indeed, Morford is really making waves with that one -- the best piece for newbies that I've ever read, IMHO.

Fredrique, excellent -- let's all continue posting at the progressive blogs where 9/11 truth is still a no-no. They'll get up to speed eventually.... or they'll get LEFT BEHIND (if you'll pardon the reference).

9/11 Truth Calling

9/11 Truth Calling Oprah!...I emailed her, how about you? peace,pw

Mark Jacobson: The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll; A new generation of conspiracy theorists is at work on a secret history of New YorkÂ’s most terrible day. 3/29

http://nymag.com/news/features/16464/index.html

=======
Mark Morford: Long Live The 9/11 Conspiracy! Anyone still care about the heap of disturbing, unsolved questions surrounding Our Great Tragedy? 3/29

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2006/03/29/notes03...

=======
TVNL Editor's Comments: CNNÂ’s 9/11 Balancing Act

CNNÂ’s Showbiz Tonight cancelled the appearance of Ed Asner last night because they could not find any guests to provide an opposing point of view related to his position on the subject of 9/11 truth. They wanted to present a balanced discussion of this topic.

Well, not all things are balanced. This is like requiring a balanced view of a weather report where you have someone talking about sunshine when the entire area is inundated by rain!

There has been 5 years of propaganda. It’s our turn. The balancers have had enough airtime! Think about it! – Jesse, Editor, TvNewsLIES.org

=========

9/11 Truth Calling Oprah!
An Appeal from TvNewsLIES.org

For more than five years now, the entire mainstream corporate news media apparatus has been controlled by a handful of behind-the-scene power brokers. In all that time there has been a total blackout on any mention, never mind discussion, of the truth behind the events of 9/11.

Despite their credibility and expertise, high-powered and extremely convincing voices of truth have been denied access to the public via the mainstream media. In the years following the attacks of 9/11, a significant number of knowledgeable people have attempted to alert the nation about the mountain of evidence that has been unearthed by their investigations, and which shoots large holes in the ‘official’ version of events sold to an unsuspecting and unquestioning public.

These people include former Bush administration officials, CIA analysts, FBI whistleblowers, scholars, academics, theologians and eye witnesses to the events of that tragic day. Not one of these people has been allowed to present his or her individual and collective conclusions that the Bush administration was either totally negligent or fully complicit or in the events of 9/11.

The media blacklisting of any and all members of the independent 9/11 truth community, no matter how impressive his or her credentials, has resulted in widespread ignorance of the huge number of anomalies and inconsistencies in the official version. No questions have been allowed to be raised, and not one shred of evidence that refutes the official version has been presented to the viewing or reading public anywhere but on the Internet.

Recent events, however, suggest that there may be a breach in this wall of silence. It seems that the only way for the 9/11 truth movement to attract the attention of the public is for well-known individuals in the entertainment arena to come forward and demand the truth.

Sad but true, a large number of Americans believe nothing until they see it on TV! There can be no question about the enormous influence and effect of television broadcasting on public opinion, a very frightening fact in these troubled and dangerous times. It was exactly for that reason that I created TvNewsLIES.org and dedicated these past years to exposing the lies and deception emanating from our broadcast news industry. And that is why I now am calling for help from one of TVÂ’s most popular and respected performers.

Last week we witnessed a five-cent example of how the single TV appearance of a well-known performer, a celebrity if you will, could initiate a terribly important word-of-mouth grass roots movement. The support of one show-biz personality helped the 9/11 research community gain more attention than the efforts of hundreds of less famous people who have been trying for years to gain access to the corporate media.

Last week Charlie Sheen became a legend. He became the first celebrity (to attract the attention of the corporate media) to risk all to ask the common sense questions that formed in his mind when he examined the 9/11 crime scene evidence. SheenÂ’s brief appearance on CNNÂ’s Show Biz Tonight showed how millions of Americans could be made aware of the convincing and damning evidence that has been hidden from them for years by our corporate criminal media.

Predictably, Mr. Sheen soon became a prime target of people who make the illogical argument that a valid message is not to be accepted if it arrives in even a mildly tainted envelope. As compelling as Mr. Sheen's comments and observations are, there will always be those who ignore his words even as they follow the Sean Hannity illogic of shooting the messenger when you can not defeat the message.

Sorry Charlie, - you will always be a hero to me for your efforts, but what we really need now is a Charlie Sheen heart and head in a bulletproof package. And I think I know who that package is.

I submit to my fellow 9/11 truth seekers and truth bearers that our effort to alert the public will be victorious if Oprah Winfrey gets on board. If we could convince Oprah to provide a platform for presenting the information that is in our possession, weÂ’ll have it made. Oprah has been a champion for so many for so long that we can only hope that she has just half the courage and sense of duty of our new hero, Charlie Sheen.

Oprah Winfrey is the closest thing our generation has to a Walter Cronkite outside the news field. Her credibility and popularity are unmatched. Her words will ring loudly and people pay close attention to her program. And she comes without an iota of challengeable baggage.

Therefore, I am suggesting that a powerful, focused effort be made to inform Ms. Oprah Winfrey of the piles of evidence that give lie to the official story of 9/11. I also suggest that we try to convince this very powerful woman to use her show as a format for that evidence to be presented to the viewing public.

This has to be done carefully. The effort can backfire if a poorly planned, incoherent or unconvincing presentation is made to Ms. Winfrey who can place a nail in the coffin of the truth movement as quickly as she can blow the lid off of the suppression we have experienced.

For starters, here is what I would do if I were to make a presentation to Oprah Winfrey:

I would hand her a printed copy of an official news article from an authoritative mainstream source showing that several of the hijack suspects have surfaced ALIVE!
I would ask her what she would think if she had a guest on her show whose child had been raped and the following had taken place: A neighbor of the child had written about the need to hire more local police, but had also written that the only way the people in the neighborhood would agree to that would be if there were a crime such as the rape of a child in the neighborhood! What if it also turned out that this neighbor had a long, complex connection to child molesters and it turned out he had vouched for several child molesters so that they could move into the neighborhood. Then I would ask her if she would seriously consider the possibility of that personÂ’s involvement in the crime?
I would then explain that this is exactly what happened on 9/11 when the members of PNAC, who wrote about the need for a "new Pearl Harbor" were running drills on 9/11 after George W. Bush had called off all investigations into the Bin Laden family and Al Qaeda.
Next, I would implore her to watch the Second Edition of Dylan Avery's DVD, Loose Change. If that doesnÂ’t do it, nothing will.
At this point, unless she has been compromised by the power elite of this nation, OprahÂ’s own intelligence and humanity would come into play. She could not possibly ignore the evidence if were to be presented to her properly. Then, if she chose to use her incredible power and public integrity, Oprah most probably could be the straw to break the back of the 9/11 cover story. She owns the forum that can bring inordinate attention to this topic. Exposure of the evidence on her show could encourage millions of people to have serious doubts about what they have been told by their government, and to demand answers to the questions that have been raised about the worst attack on our nation in history.

I truly believe that the evidence is so powerful that it will speak for itself. But it has to have an avenue to reach the people of this nation, all of whom have a right to see it and draw their own conclusions.

The ultimate goal would be for Oprah Winfrey to dedicate a week of programming to the evidence that has been collected by the independent 9/11 truth community and that has been kept from public view for all this time.

WARNING: If a gatekeeper goes forward with this and proceeds to make an unintelligible and unconvincing case, this effort will set us back to square one. We donÂ’t want a repeat of the scene in A Few Good Men where Demi Moore's character provokes the judge into adding credibility to the oppositionÂ’s argument. Simple is better. The message should focus on the PNAC statement, the drills taking place on that day, the collapse of Building Seven and the still-living accused hijackers. The unstoppable force created by the information flow that follows will supply its own momentum.

I am offering my services to review and coordinate a presentation to Ms. Winfrey because I know how to keep the message focused and bulletproof. We cannot afford to be distracted by minutia or a myriad of theories. The last thing we need is to talk about a suspicious flash on a wing when we have authentic videos of the collapse of a 47 story building along with a confession about its destruction by its owner.

So, to those of you who seek the truth, and to

"I mean, did you hear writer

"I mean, did you hear writer Robert Fisk, in a special ABC broadcast of his speech just the night before, suggest the September 11 attacks may have been the work of . . . Americans?"

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,18636966%255E2...

did you guys already see

did you guys already see this?

http://www.rense.com/general70/asner.htm

Booh, what garbage in the

Booh, what garbage in the herald sun. To good for the author that he don't post his email addy.

And a LTTE is wasted time on this newspaper, I fear.

Mail @ Oprah: done in the most kindliest way.

any word on that CNN march?

any word on that CNN march?

9/11 Truth Calling

9/11 Truth Calling Oprah!...I emailed her, how about you? peace,pw

9/11 Truth Calling Oprah!
An Appeal from TvNewsLIES.org

For more than five years now, the entire mainstream corporate news media apparatus has been controlled by a handful of behind-the-scene power brokers. In all that time there has been a total blackout on any mention, never mind discussion, of the truth behind the events of 9/11.

Despite their credibility and expertise, high-powered and extremely convincing voices of truth have been denied access to the public via the mainstream media. In the years following the attacks of 9/11, a significant number of knowledgeable people have attempted to alert the nation about the mountain of evidence that has been unearthed by their investigations, and which shoots large holes in the ‘official’ version of events sold to an unsuspecting and unquestioning public.

These people include former Bush administration officials, CIA analysts, FBI whistleblowers, scholars, academics, theologians and eye witnesses to the events of that tragic day. Not one of these people has been allowed to present his or her individual and collective conclusions that the Bush administration was either totally negligent or fully complicit or in the events of 9/11.

The media blacklisting of any and all members of the independent 9/11 truth community, no matter how impressive his or her credentials, has resulted in widespread ignorance of the huge number of anomalies and inconsistencies in the official version. No questions have been allowed to be raised, and not one shred of evidence that refutes the official version has been presented to the viewing or reading public anywhere but on the Internet.

Recent events, however, suggest that there may be a breach in this wall of silence. It seems that the only way for the 9/11 truth movement to attract the attention of the public is for well-known individuals in the entertainment arena to come forward and demand the truth.

Sad but true, a large number of Americans believe nothing until they see it on TV! There can be no question about the enormous influence and effect of television broadcasting on public opinion, a very frightening fact in these troubled and dangerous times. It was exactly for that reason that I created TvNewsLIES.org and dedicated these past years to exposing the lies and deception emanating from our broadcast news industry. And that is why I now am calling for help from one of TVÂ’s most popular and respected performers.

Last week we witnessed a five-cent example of how the single TV appearance of a well-known performer, a celebrity if you will, could initiate a terribly important word-of-mouth grass roots movement. The support of one show-biz personality helped the 9/11 research community gain more attention than the efforts of hundreds of less famous people who have been trying for years to gain access to the corporate media.

Last week Charlie Sheen became a legend. He became the first celebrity (to attract the attention of the corporate media) to risk all to ask the common sense questions that formed in his mind when he examined the 9/11 crime scene evidence. SheenÂ’s brief appearance on CNNÂ’s Show Biz Tonight showed how millions of Americans could be made aware of the convincing and damning evidence that has been hidden from them for years by our corporate criminal media.

Predictably, Mr. Sheen soon became a prime target of people who make the illogical argument that a valid message is not to be accepted if it arrives in even a mildly tainted envelope. As compelling as Mr. Sheen's comments and observations are, there will always be those who ignore his words even as they follow the Sean Hannity illogic of shooting the messenger when you can not defeat the message.

Sorry Charlie, - you will always be a hero to me for your efforts, but what we really need now is a Charlie Sheen heart and head in a bulletproof package. And I think I know who that package is.

I submit to my fellow 9/11 truth seekers and truth bearers that our effort to alert the public will be victorious if Oprah Winfrey gets on board. If we could convince Oprah to provide a platform for presenting the information that is in our possession, weÂ’ll have it made. Oprah has been a champion for so many for so long that we can only hope that she has just half the courage and sense of duty of our new hero, Charlie Sheen.

Oprah Winfrey is the closest thing our generation has to a Walter Cronkite outside the news field. Her credibility and popularity are unmatched. Her words will ring loudly and people pay close attention to her program. And she comes without an iota of challengeable baggage.

Therefore, I am suggesting that a powerful, focused effort be made to inform Ms. Oprah Winfrey of the piles of evidence that give lie to the official story of 9/11. I also suggest that we try to convince this very powerful woman to use her show as a format for that evidence to be presented to the viewing public.

This has to be done carefully. The effort can backfire if a poorly planned, incoherent or unconvincing presentation is made to Ms. Winfrey who can place a nail in the coffin of the truth movement as quickly as she can blow the lid off of the suppression we have experienced.

For starters, here is what I would do if I were to make a presentation to Oprah Winfrey:

I would hand her a printed copy of an official news article from an authoritative mainstream source showing that several of the hijack suspects have surfaced ALIVE!
I would ask her what she would think if she had a guest on her show whose child had been raped and the following had taken place: A neighbor of the child had written about the need to hire more local police, but had also written that the only way the people in the neighborhood would agree to that would be if there were a crime such as the rape of a child in the neighborhood! What if it also turned out that this neighbor had a long, complex connection to child molesters and it turned out he had vouched for several child molesters so that they could move into the neighborhood. Then I would ask her if she would seriously consider the possibility of that personÂ’s involvement in the crime?
I would then explain that this is exactly what happened on 9/11 when the members of PNAC, who wrote about the need for a "new Pearl Harbor" were running drills on 9/11 after George W. Bush had called off all investigations into the Bin Laden family and Al Qaeda.
Next, I would implore her to watch the Second Edition of Dylan Avery's DVD, Loose Change. If that doesnÂ’t do it, nothing will.
At this point, unless she has been compromised by the power elite of this nation, OprahÂ’s own intelligence and humanity would come into play. She could not possibly ignore the evidence if were to be presented to her properly. Then, if she chose to use her incredible power and public integrity, Oprah most probably could be the straw to break the back of the 9/11 cover story. She owns the forum that can bring inordinate attention to this topic. Exposure of the evidence on her show could encourage millions of people to have serious doubts about what they have been told by their government, and to demand answers to the questions that have been raised about the worst attack on our nation in history.

I truly believe that the evidence is so powerful that it will speak for itself. But it has to have an avenue to reach the people of this nation, all of whom have a right to see it and draw their own conclusions.

The ultimate goal would be for Oprah Winfrey to dedicate a week of programming to the evidence that has been collected by the independent 9/11 truth community and that has been kept from public view for all this time.

WARNING: If a gatekeeper goes forward with this and proceeds to make an unintelligible and unconvincing case, this effort will set us back to square one. We donÂ’t want a repeat of the scene in A Few Good Men where Demi Moore's character provokes the judge into adding credibility to the oppositionÂ’s argument. Simple is better. The message should focus on the PNAC statement, the drills taking place on that day, the collapse of Building Seven and the still-living accused hijackers. The unstoppable force created by the information flow that follows will supply its own momentum.

I am offering my services to review and coordinate a presentation to Ms. Winfrey because I know how to keep the message focused and bulletproof. We cannot afford to be distracted by minutia or a myriad of theories. The last thing we need is to talk about a suspicious flash on a wing when we have authentic videos of the collapse of a 47 story building along with a confession about its destruction by its owner.

So, to those of you who seek the truth, and to those of you who suspect the truth and to those of you who know the truth about 9/11, I ask your help. Send out an SOS to Oprah Winfrey. Imagine if she were to receive tens of thousands of requests for a series of shows that would reveal the evidence that has been accrued over these years.

Please take five minutes of your time to send a message to the Oprah Winfrey Show, and let her know that you want a show about 9/11. And if you choose to do so, please add that IÂ’d be happy to appear as a representative of the Truth Community. HereÂ’s where you can type in your suggestion for a future show:

http://www.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml

Think about it!
Jesse - Editor, TvNewsLIES.org

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_truth_calling_oprah.html

peace,pw

I agree pw. I've been

I agree pw. I've been emailing Oprah for awhile now, eg. George Washington's tipping point idea.

The Jersey Girls on Oprah, for example, would be like lighting starting the thunder

What city does Oprah live

What city does Oprah live in?

What a thread!!! andi- great

What a thread!!!

andi- great cage metaphor

Fredrique- keep using the Mark Morford article to get them to take this seriously

Citizenkit- Has any one pursued the copyright questions about turning the Morford article into a flyer? ( work will keep me from doing too much until later)
P.S Please don't use the 'newbie' word, its incredibly condesending. I don't want to have to use profanity again.

dk-Freedom from fascism...excellent...I'm actually glad they don't include 911 in this, it would just complicate it. Hit them at the wallet!!!That will wake up average americans, just look at almost any recent political campaign.....bread and butter issues
But going after the federal reserve, now that 's really chewing on the strings of power above the puppets.

Corner the market on

Corner the market on boxcutters and take over the world! Very good AmandaReconwith.

Fisk audio link

Fisk is big!!!! He's the

Fisk is big!!!! He's the preemient reporter of things Middle East, and is frequently on Amy Goodman's show.

If he starts saying that, could break down more left gatekeeping gates... er, left gates, er... you know...

dont forget to listen to my

dont forget to listen to my favorite radio show!!!!!

Wednesdays 1-2pm PST (4-5pm EST) - KPFA 94.1fm

http://www.gunsandbutter.net/

guns and butter was the first place i ever heard someone say 911 was an inside job on the radio... i wasnt 100% sure at that point and it sure helped me feel sane....

2 new ones: Dear Government

Oh dear... Australia Press

Oh dear... Australia Press is
often the LABORATORY for the rest

It is the first sign that the Corporate Media is afraid, and it FEARS to have to admit that 911 was an inside job..

Looks good.

But I am worried about people smearing chomsky, and right-wing pea-brains taking up guns and running on the street, finding "gatekeepers" and lynching them..

u2r2h's first law:

People who publicly criticize Chomsky, don't read him.

Chomsky USED TO BE

Chomsky USED TO BE great!

But he's totally lost it (read my totally off-topic post on global warming here:

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/03/global-warming-cold-facts-o...

where Chomsky says he's okay with fascism). OKAY WITH FASCISM???

Gosh, Radical Pragmatist,

Gosh, Radical Pragmatist, since when is the term "newbie" considered condescending? I was a newbie in 2003 when I woke up to 9/11 truth -- we've all been there at some point in our lives.

At any rate, my point was that Morford's article is great for those just starting to wake up. Those of us who have been at this awhile won't learn anything new from his article -- BUT, it's one of the most compelling and concise pieces I've ever read on 9/11, period. Just my opinion.... it'll be interesting to see what kind of impact it has (if Morford does a follow-up about the response he's receiving at his in-box).

Bush Blames Iraq Instability

Bush Blames Iraq Instability On Saddam

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Dumb ass.

Really. I can't believe he

Really. I can't believe he doesn't realize it is Clinton's fault.

Wait a second... I thought

Wait a second... I thought everything was hunky-dory in Iraq, and it was the media who was lying about the instability. Now he's admitting to the instability, but blaming it on Saddam.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Since I know people

Since I know people controlling this board don't practice what they preach This message will be deleted really really fast.

If you google: "Dylan Avery Zulubabe"
"Dylan Avery Rabid Jew Hater"
"Dylan Avery Spook"

You'll see that hes a lying thieving spook controlled by a criminal network.

Anyone who collaborates with the enemy is a fucking traitor.

Paul Isaac Jr (Sentinel)
Rsqsrvs@Yahoo.com

I don't care much for LC or

I don't care much for LC or LC2E anyway.

Paul Isaac Jr. I did as you

Paul Isaac Jr. I did as you said, and this was returned.

lgf: Porsche 911
lgf: Gittin' Meta Wit' It

Not telling the truth?

I have two goals in my

I have two goals in my life:

1) Promoting 9/11 Truth!

2) Having sex with 3 girls at the same time. That would be awesome..

Wesley: 3 at once is

Wesley:

3 at once is impossible.

A female can have sex with 3 males at once, but you cannot have sex with 3 females at once.

I dont know why I even bothered commenting.

i dont know if anybody

i dont know if anybody notice but OPRAH'S A BILLIONAIRE!!!!!! she gets the most of her money from ratings that will surely dip if she was to take on the 9/11 cause. I have some ideas for us to get better, but i dont have time to type them here...but Oprah is a pipe dream. Even if she did believe there is nothing she could do. Because her wealth is determined by her image, so in essence HER IMAGE IS HER COMPANY. And if that was to be tarnished in even the slightest fashion it could have detrimental effects on her success.

The only way she could do it was to have an objective debate on it, dont express her own views, and have people come on her show and debate. Even though I would prefer Steven Jones for information and straight scientfic facts, he doesnt have enough "entertainment presence" to sell the "Truth" outside the academic enviorment. Alex Jones is a great talker but he presents to many facts not related to a key issue, although they are useful to help understand why things happen, its just to much for the average person (sheep) to hear at one time.

and speaking on that....the only reason we have "Left Gate-Keepers" is because they realize that the average American is a lemming. and they are easily controlled by rhetoric and propaganda and are turned off by truth. The reason why so many Dems voted for the war is because they knew that if was even a slight success a repub would use that against them like "See they didnt support you (Americans) or the Iraqi's when we needed them most they voted against the war, they are unpatriotic" so dems arent gatekeepers by choice (In my opinion) i think the fact that people vote on rhetoric instead of facts, and since they want to keep their job they have to "get with the program"

Looks like CNN has

Looks like CNN has officially "pulled it".

how is sex with 3 girls at

how is sex with 3 girls at one time impossible? it can be done...not simultaneously of course, but congruently

wait a minute..what am i talking about. lol....we have to stay away from that. remember ,b> PEOPLE JUDGE THE MESSENGER FIRST AND THEN THE MESSAGE. so we have to be on our "BEST BEHAVIOR" when promoting 9/11 truth.

Paul Isaac, wow, you defamed

Paul Isaac,

wow, you defamed the owner of this site (me), and the creator of loose change in one fell swoop, good job!

For sh*ts and giggles, I did

For sh*ts and giggles, I did what Paul Issacs said, and got 9,300 hits for
Dylan Avery Rabid Jew hater
funny thing is when I typed
Paul Issac antisemite
I got over 78,000

I'm so confused?!?!?

Paul Isaac Jr, What does

Paul Isaac Jr,

What does this site "preach"?

I'm not a huge Wing TV fan,

I'm not a huge Wing TV fan, but interesting article on this Isaac fellow.
http://www.wingtv.net/thornarticles/isaac2.html

next thing you know hes

next thing you know hes going to be saying that dylan has smoked pot before... HAHHAHA!!

apparently someone is trying

apparently someone is trying to pin Dylan Avery as a nazi.. wonder who would want to do that..

only thing i can come across is someone claiming he is really named 'Abe Smoling', and that the person claiming a nazi threat made by him just happened to know that an email address of 'kidjistaintright@yahoo.ca' belonged to dylan avery.. wheres the evidence?

paul,

if you have something to say in english feel free to go right ahead, otherwise i will continue to know that dylan avery is a 22 year old whose work has been distributed to over 50,000+ people and has advanced the spread of 9/11 awareness, what have you done?

if your so sure that dylan is a nazi, then who the hell are you? and why dont you make your point clearly so others can understand if your so sure about it?

HEY DZ.... Why no link on

HEY DZ....

Why no link on the main page to the spectacular SFGATE article mentioned above?

???!?!?!?

Get it up man!!!

surprise, at work now, but i

surprise,

at work now, but i will shortly ;) i can sometimes monitor comments on a good day at my job, but doing any work on it is a no-go..

Ed Asner Talks On RBN Radio

Ed Asner Talks On RBN Radio Show, The Investigative Journal, Calling For 9/11 Truth and Backing Charlie Sheen

http://arcticbeacon.com/29-Mar-2006b.html

I feel sorry for poor souls

I feel sorry for poor souls like Paul Isaac Jr. All that agressive expression just reflects the lack of love.

Lets all send him kisses and hugs.

google "George Bush jew

google "George Bush jew hater"

7,420,000 hits. what is your point?

I think that the SFGATE

I think that the SFGATE article marks something very impressive...

it wasn't completely impartial. In fact, it's probably one of the first, if not THE first article on the subject to be written in an impassioned, almost desperate, fevered tone, which the subject greatly deserves.

DRG is doing a great job on

DRG is doing a great job on G&B.

A lot of people always said that the Towers did not collapse compeltely into their own footprint, and that it wasn't freefall speed.

DRG adjusts his information accordingly

DIdnt you guys know Dylan

DIdnt you guys know Dylan was a nazi? jeeeeez...

1) He has short hair,

2) Ive seen him wear boots

3) He visited a .de website once!

Come on folks! Cant you see it??? HIS A FREAKIN NAZI!!!!!

and, "inside":

Yes, dylan has smoked pot. So his not only mentally ill, but a schizophrenic. Thats more like... insane? yup.

Dylan. You naughty boy!

Jon Gold: Re: the Chicago

Jon Gold: Re: the Chicago Tribune article on the 34 participants of 911.

This is the result of torture policies of the US - the prisoners will say whatever you want them to say. While the information gained from a torturee can't be used against him in a criminal trial, apparently it can be used against someone else with impunity.

WEDNESDAY ~ March 29th “

WEDNESDAY ~ March 29th
“ Eric Hufschmid Blowout: Murder of 9-11 Scholar ”

http://www.wingtv.net/todaysshow/wednesday/wednesday.mp3?PHPSESSID=624e8...

Someone help me with

Someone help me with this:

Where can I find audio + transcipts of the radio show where supposedly some guy was calling in for days warning of an attack?

did you hear DRG just

did you hear DRG just mentioned paul isaac jr...on guns and butter

how weird we have someone posting with that name.

historical info -
"auxiliary fire
lieutenant Paul Isaac, Jr. admitted yet again that 9-11 was an inside job.
In fact, here is his exact quote to Lisa Guliani and myself: "I know 9-11
was an inside job, the police know it's an inside job, and the firemen know it too."

here is his take----same guy, same email----from google groups...
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.terrorism.world-trade-center/browse...

Goodafternoon to the bourd,

The story writen by wingtvs victor thorn and lisa guliani AKA FBI
snitch is false. there was never any discussion of this topic at the
WTC Memorial. For those who are interested in the truth to this story
google: Village Voice Memorial 05 edition and see how these idiots
conduct themselves at a memorial for the lost of 91101. These people
are agent provocatures and I called them on it at the memorial thereby
screwqing up their operation. They then retailiated against me by
writing this disimformation piece on the next day.

There is plenty of back up on this incident on the web as I have going
through most of the sites posting this BS to clarify this incident.

Thank you

Paul Isaac Jr (Sentinel)
Rsqs...@yahoo.com

so is this guy real or is he BS. we should find out NOW

Sandy D.... "This is the

Sandy D....

"This is the result of torture policies of the US - the prisoners will say whatever you want them to say. While the information gained from a torturee can't be used against him in a criminal trial, apparently it can be used against someone else with impunity."

That is the first thing wrong with that story, yes...

The other thing is that KSM is an AWFULLY convenient resource to have around, wouldn't you say? A lot of the 9/11 Report references, "KSM" to fill in whatever blanks they needed filled.

What I'd like to know is... if he's the supposed, "Mastermind", why hasn't he been brought to justice?

My guess is that Paul Isaac

My guess is that Paul Isaac is regretting saying something he maybe should'nt have... or should have but subsequently got spoken to, if you know what I mean.

I really do not know where he is coming from.

Cheers and confused

What I'd like to know is...

What I'd like to know is... if he's the supposed, "Mastermind", why hasn't he been brought to justice?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 03.29.06 - 5:04 pm | #

I want BLOOD! KSM needs to be in front of a judge, not Moussauoi, the "supposed 20th hijacker"

the guy "who planned 9-11" kicks it somewhere where americans can't do anything about it but this guy ZM gets trotted out like a spectacle, shown to america as the evil muslim personfication, put to death, and the gov't will tell us....Justice has been served.

You may continue consuming.....eat, drink and be merry, ignorant, fat, lazy and perpetually clueless about what goes on in this world.

that last anon was me. don't

that last anon was me.

don't know what happened.

Request: 1) link to

Request:
1) link to _working_ video of the FBI agent Robert Wright press conference back when; the C-Span realplayer link posted everywhere hasn't worked for years.

2) link to a clean video clip of the Norad/wargames segment from ABC news with Peter Jennings. Some of this clip was in 9/11 Martial Law about halfway in.

Thanks.

"link to a clean video clip

"link to a clean video clip of the Norad/wargames segment from ABC news with Peter Jennings. Some of this clip was in 9/11 Martial Law about halfway in."

This what you're looking for: http://tyrannyalert.com/norad.mpg

?

Starts about half-way in.

Starts about half-way in.

Thanky kindly

Thanky kindly GeorgeWashington, it's the same excerpt from ML 9/11, but it'll do in a pinch!

To clear up any confusion "I

To clear up any confusion
"I mean, did you hear writer Robert Fisk, in a special ABC broadcast of his speech just the night before, suggest the September 11 attacks may have been the work of . . . Americans?" - http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,18636966%255E2...

Here is what Fisk actually said - transcribed by your truly.

Questioner from audience: I assume with something such as September 11th happening, the general consensus would be to ask more questions and wanting to find why, but do you feel that actually hasn't happened?

Robert Fisk: Well I think we are asking why now, but we're a bit late in the day. And one of the things you find in the [United] States, because I go there on average every three and a half weeks to give lectures is that more and more people in the audience believe that the American mil-, uh, Administration had some kind of involvement.

[Minor Clapping]

Fisk: I have to say, before you clap, I don't have any proof of that. The worst that I could convisage is that they knew something was coming and preferred it to happen so that their strategy could be put in place. But even that would connote a kind of "evil" that Mr. Bush talks about. I don't have any proof that that's the case, but I would have to say that in my correspondence from Americans - I'm not talking about nutters, I'm talking about bright intelligent people with good jobs - more are saying 'we've got to investigate this more, it can't be that simple'. Just like I say "it's not civil war in Iraq" - I don't believe that all the Sunnis are blowing up Shi'ite mosques and all the Shi'ites are going blowing up Sunni mosques. It's much more complicated than that, and there are other hands involved.

Partly I think because of the culture of secrecy of the White House - never have we had a White House so secret as this one - partly because of this culture, I think suspicions are growing in the United States, not just among, you know, Berkley guys with flowers in their hair, but serious people across the States are asking. People in Iowa for Godsakes are asking me in letters 'what really happened?', 'How did these buildings fall so neatly down?' And I can't answer them except to say that 'I'm in Beruit, not New York, I can't investigate this'. But there are a lot of things we don't know, a lot of things we're not gonna be told.

Um, Ziad Jarrahi was one of the suicide pilots. He was the Lebanese who's plane crashed, possibly, when the passengers stormed the flight deck - or perhaps the plane was hit by a missile; we still don't know - which crashed in Pennsylvania. And I know his family quite well. I've been to see them. And I've questioned and crossed questioned the father in particular, to the point where he's crying, as to why this happened. This guy had a girlfriend, he was getting engaged to a Turkish girl. Just before September 11th he rang her and said he couldn't come and introduce her to his parents so he should go on her own and say 'I'm the fiance of your son'. Very odd situation in the Muslim world, especially in Lebanon. Or Turkey. On the morning of Septemeber 11th she took a call from Ziad who said to her, Ziad Jarrahi said, 'I love you'. And she said 'what's wrong', and he said 'I love you', and hung up. He was already dead you see in his mind he was going. He obviously was a pilot, he'd been to Afghanistan, his family have told me this. They went and got him back, but when he came back he was no more the guy who liked going dancing with his friends and having girlfriends. He was going to the mosque five times a day. He gone across. And today outside his house stands a brand new black Mercedes-Benz, his birthday present from his father who's waiting for him to return - which he will not do. Um, I can't answer the question better than that...

Audio at: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigidea/audio/big_26032006_2856.ram - The question is the second one in the Q&A session, about 3/4 of the way through.

My thoughts: Interesting that he wasn't specifically asked about a '9/11 Conspiracy', he brought it up on his own.

Also, interesting to note that - whatever you may think of his analysis of his findings - he seems to be one of the few (only?) Western journalists that actually bothered to interview the family of 9/11 hijacker.

And certainly good that, although he doesn't seem to agree (he says in the main body of the speech that he thinks Bin Laden did it - he's met Bin Laden several times), he doesn't simply dismiss 911 skepticism out of hand like so many others.

And if any suggests that Bob is disinfo, I suggest you read some of his brave reporting from the front-lines of some of the worst spots in the world - places few other Western journalists dared visit. I don't agree with everything Bob says, but I do not doubt his integrity and his passion for a real just peace in the Middle East.

I'm confused as to why this

I'm confused as to why this Paul Isaac, Jr. guy has gone from proclaiming that 9/11 was an inside job to now bashing everyone including Dylan Avery? By claiming that Avery is an anti-Semite, Isaac seems to be trying to paint him as being another Eric Hufschmid (who pushes too hard with the anti-Zionist stuff).

Perhaps Isaac:
a) has post traumatic stress or some other mental illness?
b) has been offered big $$$ to smear the truth movement?
c) has had his life threatened if he doesn't renounce & smear the truth movement?
d) Paul Isaac really didn't do this and some imposter is discrediting him?
e)?

So, if you're reading this Isaac, why don't you explain yourself in a reply?

Frank V,(SC boy) about how

Frank V,(SC boy)
about how many 9-11 DVD's have you handed out so far this year?
I have handed out about 200, 90% CE 10% LC2E...thats gonna be reversed
by the summer
peace,pw

I just went to Buzzflash and

I just went to Buzzflash and there is a link to the New York magazine article by Mark Jacobson. Its right up there as one of the headlines

citizinkit- I didn't mean

citizinkit- I didn't mean any offense by the 'newbie' comment, I know what you meant. I was simply expressing what I have heard in the past couple of days from people who I have introduced to 911 by this and other web pages. These are 'pre-newbies' who haven't ever questioned 911. The said the words 'newbie' , 'elders' and 'vetrans' made the truth movement sound like a "f*ckin fraternity'".
Its just part of my personal on going 911 market research.

In the larger picture it probally doesn't matter, we've got bigger issues.

Just wanted to explain myself.

What about the copy right issue?

In your posting about the

In your posting about the David Ray Griffin interview on Guns & Butter, it says that the show will be posted for a week.
Actually if you go to the Guns and Butter website, the shows are posted for months, years. There are 122 archives available 7 pages worth of archives.

Hey I think, The rumor is

Hey I think,
The rumor is that the government spent about 1.6 billion to ‘market’ the official story. Compare that with this blog and a tiny budget. I distribute flyers and disks too. I know that we are making a difference. But after thinking about it for a couple of days I just had to make a donation. So I did. It’s worth fifty bucks easy. I’ll remember that I this when everyone, REALLY EVERYONE, doesn’t believe the official story.

See, someone might ask- “what did you do?” .Make a donation to 911truth or 911blogger or similar sites and you’ll feel much better in the future. The truth is coming now. I’m sure of it.

Radical Pragmatist -- thanks

Radical Pragmatist -- thanks for the explanation. Understandable.

I haven't looked into the copyright issue with the SFGate article -- too much work piled up here -- but, I'll look into it later. I could do it for personal use, I'm sure -- but, putting it here would probably not be cool without SFGate's approval.

http://www.silver-investor.co

http://www.silver-investor.com/charlessavoie/cs_dec04.pdf

Meet the world's money power- the Pilgrim Society is much more powerful than the skulls, Trilateral, Carlyle, CFR, and bilderberg.

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pw my man! Two of us have

pw my man!

Two of us have passed out 1500 of our 8-hour internet compilation DVDs, with 6 known active enthusiastic self-sufficient self-sustaining duplicators downline. Another couple hundred total of Reopen, LC2, and Martial Law DVDs. Quite satisfying!! Always scribble on the label side "Free" and "Pass it on".