End of Week Grab Bag

Well here we are, another day, another HUGE pile of news to post. Some people have been mentioning that with the number of new posts, old conversations get abandoned and never resolved. Keep in mind that www.yourbbsucks.com is the official 911blogger discussion forum and would be better suited to long conversations.

Also, due to the number of government officials (2)we have recently attracted, the requirement that users register at the site would help keep the number of purely abusive and nonsensical posts down to a minimum. Just watch out for The Shape.

Here you go:

Curt Weldon discusses explosions at the WTC and states that sometimes he "Doesn't Trust The Government. Explosive audio here, many thanks to Jon Gold for confronting him and his persistence in this matter. View the discussion forum here.


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In fact, the Sept. 11, 2001 disaster was an inside job perpetrated by forces within the U.S.
If that sounds outrageous, get onto the Internet because there are literally millions of people who have figured this out and who are willing to prove it to anyone who wants to know. Try starting with www.scholarsfor911truth.org.
The three (yes, three) World Trade Center (WTC) towers collapsed as the result of controlled demolitions, which should be obvious to anyone who knows anything about fire, fuels and the melting temperature of steel,
The WTC leaseholder, Larry Silverstein, even admitted they "pulled" WTC7.
...
Wake up, Canada!
We have been sucked into an illegal and immoral occupation based on the lies of the murderous neo-con cabal of thugs who have hijacked the U.S. government after stealing two elections through electronic voting.


“Was 9/11 an Inside Job?”

A look at competing paradigms of the events of September 11th, 2001. With Nicholas Levis

When: Wednesday, May 17th, 2006, 6:30 p.m.
Where: Graduate Center of CUNY, 365 Fifth Avenue (at 34th St.), Room 9205

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Check out the Featured News link at Garlic And Grass.
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/04/clowns-to-left-of-me-jokers-to-right.html

Uh . . . you can't have it both ways. The reason democrats and republicans say that 9/11 was an inside job was because IT WAS!

A humorous example of this is the recent attack on Alex Jones. Alex has always been attacked by liberals as being a right-winger. But last week, he was attacked for being a liberal traitor. Nice try, but you can't have it both ways.
The whole left-right paradigm is a false dichotomy, a divide-and-conquer strategy, whipped up to confuse and disempower people.


For those who missed it:
Venezuelan Government To Launch International 9/11 Investigation

710 WOR lionel show podcasts of 9/11 show,
almost all of this is about 9/11. Very good coverage!!!

http://www.wor710.com/podcast/lionel/LIONEL0331HR1.mp3
http://www.wor710.com/podcast/lionel/LIONEL0331HR2.mp3
http://www.wor710.com/podcast/lionel/LIONEL0331HR3.mp3


Calling the Blogger Brigade:

Yes, the Big Lie is in Jeopardy: So Here comes Universal's "Flight 93" nose diving into the Golden Screen to shore up Shanksville.
Should be a good time to mobilize at movie theaters across the country.

Here's the link: http://www.flight93.net/index.php

When you hit "enter the site" and look through the menu you will notice that a forum has been set up for propagandists to post on— 911 Truth activists should deluge this site with a well coordinated, highly organized "Truth Assault to the Psyche"

Third term for

Third term for Bush:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/01/gwot_cha/

Apparently if you start a war under false pretenses, you get to remain president indefinitely.

I think the third term story

I think the third term story was an April Fool's joke, but its pretty scary when what once would have been considered a joke is now so real and plausable.

"Also, due to the number of

"Also, due to the number of government officials (2)we have recently attracted"

I would be very concerned about that, and the site it links to with phrases like "WE ARE FIGHTING A GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR" is very concerning..

Sure you are US Mil, a global war on humanity when the rogue CFR-run arm of the Pentagon arranged with the Neocons to have a coup on 9/11/2001 and kill around 3000 people.

SBG and Jon, I know ybbs.com

SBG and Jon,

I know ybbs.com is the official discussion forum to 911blogger.com. But it doesn't work for me. It's like going to a bar with good music and attractive girls, but when I want to order a drink I have to walk three blocks for another bar, where there's no music and only unattractive girls *snicker*. On ybbs I can find no clear correlation to posts made on 911blogger, so I guess I'll just keep visiting both seperately.

Any further comments re:

Any further comments re: Seth Green, Erica Jong, & Rep. Dana Rohrbacher on the Bill Maher show 3/31/06??????

Green Party Guy first reported that Green, Jong, & Rohrbacher told a doubtful Maher that Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11.

Stickman added: A few minutes before Jong and Green get into preknowledge, Maher makes a snide comment about someone being a liar like Sheen.
This is Maher's MO. He likes to further his agenda by disparaging anything more radical than his own.
I like his show but he's so obviously a gatekeeper. He'll flip flop on this, like he did on Iraq.
He hasn't said it recently but he used to love being the liberal who supports the occupation.

P.S. Seth Green would be a great ally! Although modest, he's had loads of fine tv & movie roles and is very well connected in Hollywood.

P.P.S Are there any clips on the net of Green & Jong for those like me w/o HBO?

I think Flanstein, ds,

I think Flanstein, ds, annonymous, etc. are not merely random punks playing devil's advocate. They seem to be disinfo artists trying to disrupt this site. (This site & others have been gaining huge numbers of hits lately, and the real criminals behind 9/11 are surely worried.)

"They seem to be disinfo

"They seem to be disinfo artists trying to disrupt this site."

If they're like me, they are horrified that hundreds here seems to think that that the many air traffic controllers, who followed the flights on the three planes that struck the World Trade Center and Pentagon, along with the fourth that crashed short of its target, were in on the plot, along with the thousands of plain, ordinary citizens who saw the planes strike.

At least ds is somewhat

At least ds is somewhat humorous. Wrong, misguided, or genuinely a jerk, at least he's humorous.

Thanks for that audio re: Weldon town meeting. Fairly inspiring. I don't know if 'confronting' is quite the right word, it sounded like questioners and the Congressman were of like mind.

Terrence, I don't know

Terrence, I don't know anyone here who has stated that the air traffic controllers were in on the plot, nor the people who saw the planes hit hit the towers.

(Oh no, another one.) That's

(Oh no, another one.) That's pure bullshit Terrence, & you know it.

"Thanks for that audio re:

"Thanks for that audio re: Weldon town meeting. Fairly inspiring. I don't know if 'confronting' is quite the right word, it sounded like questioners and the Congressman were of like mind."

No... it wasn't an angry confrontation.

Now ds is trying to minimize

Now ds is trying to minimize 9/11 as some Republican vs. Democrat tiff, while it's truly NeoNaziCons vs. humanity.

This is really great seeing

This is really great seeing all these trolls.

Hey dz where are you?

and the mcmedia

and the mcmedia

Hey US Army Reserve

Hey US Army Reserve government officials in many ways the home front is scarier. Freedom isn't free is just requires someone who really believes the oath to protect and defend the constitution. Who on this thread is bravest?

Wanna make a big difference in 911 skepticism and truth? Go analog once in a while. Have you ever handed someone a flyer that really questions the official story? Looked them in the eye while you did it? ItÂ’s hard and takes courage. I like to blog too but anything on a computer is virtual presence. More courage by all of us is really needed now. Yeah that means you. You know who you are. Drop! Start doing pushups!

I was in the Army once. You know posting on this blog does a better job of defending the constitution than I ever did there.

I'm a citizen! A citizen of one!

d(ip)s(hit): you are

d(ip)s(hit): you are deliberately aiding & abetting those who concealed the truth behind 9/11.

You got slammed when zuco & others presented the whole picture of 9/11 on the previous thread, so now you resort to moronic one-liners. You are a fool.

Yeah, but soldier means "one

Yeah, but soldier means "one who stands alone". It's big alright. I just know that the things I do make a difference.

Am I? Oh well, never figured

Am I? Oh well, never figured myself to be a sleeper. Talkin of which.. *yawn*

People only need to fear for

People only need to fear for their careers,the lives of their families, et . . to remain silent.

Is it possible to remove ds posts? They are disruptive which is her intention. She brings nothing to the discussion.

Brush your tooth, ds! Song

Brush your tooth, ds!

Song for the Last American Fool
http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/label/mp3/sob/i_can_lick_any_sob-walk_acro...

I stated it before. We

I stated it before. We should log the IP's of all intentional distorters. Just for the forthcoming trials- obstruction of justice and abetment to mass-murder are serious crimes last time I'd checked.

Wait, I just got breaking

Wait, I just got breaking news. . . .

Charlie Sheen was in on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blasphemous, I would have believed you if it wasn't for your blatant disregard for proper exclamation mark usage.

ds, I applaud your latest

ds, I applaud your latest post; near perfect grammar; therefore I must confess that indeed I am a spy.

The Leslie Nielson kind.

D. Doug--Even if the truth

D. Doug--Even if the truth movement is CORRECT, and the Bush admin. is guilty of helping to murder 3,000 people on 9/11, it's "better for the Libertarian party" to "let if go" and "focus on current problems?"

Great observation! I think many other self-serving groups/people besides the Libertarians share this same disgusting philosophy of "let's only do what's best for us re: 911."

I've started to transcribe

I've started to transcribe the Weldon Q&A...

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9302

I just got finished the first question from Dave.

"Some people have been

"Some people have been mentioning that with the number of new posts, old conversations get abandoned and never resolved. Keep in mind that www.yourbbsucks.com is the official 911blogger discussion forum and would be better suited to long conversations."

Old conversations get abandoned not because of new posts, but because of the same old posts from the ass clowns. Migrating over to the official forum doesn't address the issue of ass clowns wasting space here. I know I don't come here as much because of this...and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone. We need a few people with the power to pull these posts or an IP blocker so they'll move under another bridge or get Jon to make a new thread for each blogger post, link 'em up and make them sign up. And set it so you can't use any of the free emails (hotmail yahoo gmail...)

that's my $.02......all the ass clowns may resume their fun....

Dave Slesinger speaks up:

Dave Slesinger speaks up: Congressman, that was my question, I, uh, wanna give out, anybody who wants this, this is a speech by a physics professor at BYU, Steven Jones.

Rep. Weldon: Yea.

Dave Slesinger: It's the hottest thing happening on the 9/11 issue. In his speech, he praises Congressman Weldon, he's a conservative Republican, he praises Reagan, he quotes St. Paul. I think I have enough for everybody. Just ask me.

Rep. Weldon: It'll open your eyes, because his allegations are pretty strong.

I will give $1,000,000.00 to

I will give $1,000,000.00 to anyone who transcribes the second question.

Starts at 3:34.

Where's Jimmy when I need

Where's Jimmy when I need him?

Maybe the established powers

Maybe the established powers are most afraid of a kind of tipping point. I've already said I know that the official 911 story is a lie. I signed the ST911 petition. Therefore,I'm now more afraid of not moving the truth forward.

However,most people are afraid of the unspeakable truth.I figure that about 51 percent of the people are still afraid to look at the issue fairly.

Could this be why there is so much energy behind this topic? Could things like distributing one paper flyer tip the subject? How about you ds, what do you think?

One meeeeeeeellion

One meeeeeeeellion dollars...

Judging by the responses on

Judging by the responses on (1) the CNN poll after the Sheen appeared at 84% in agreement with Sheen; (2) about 90% disagreeing with Doug Thompson over at Capitol Hill Blue, who recently categorically refused to look at the overwhelming evidence against the "official" story, and came up with ludicrous reasoning for believing BushCo; and (3) similar responses to Betsy Hart's hit piece, I feel we've actually passed the tipping point with 9/11 truth in terms of public view. Still a long way to go to wake even more people up, but 9/11 truth is winning by a big margin even as the mainstream media continues to obfuscate and deride the issue.

And since perception equals reality, and the truth is on our side, it's easy for most people to now question the "Osama and 19 hijackers" absurdity.

Keep up the great work dz, somebigguy, jon, and all of you brave patriots.

Actually... I think it's

Actually... I think it's time we started asking dz to go talk with Cynthia McKinney... maybe get an interview with her.

What say you dz?

I think its time to go to a

I think its time to go to a member based forum for 911blogger... This trolling above is getting out of hand and is easily preventable.

Government In Secret Talks

I had heard a while back

I had heard a while back that CNN had been pulling the "America Remembers" video that Von Kleist and others reference for "official MSM fotage."

I went to Amazon, and ordered one. After about 4 weeks of waiting, today I get this:

==========================
Hello from Amazon.com.

We're sorry to report that we have cancelled the item from
the order you placed on February 24 2006 09:39 PST
(Order# 002-5008761-4565626):

King, et al "CNN Tribute - America Remembers"
==========================

I believe the theory is to leave the sale link up, but simply deny the product. It's been pulled.

i like this one from ds-- If

i like this one from ds-- If they're like me, they are horrified that hundreds here seems to think that that the many air traffic controllers, who followed the flights on the three planes that struck the World Trade Center and Pentagon, along with the fourth that crashed short of its target, were in on the plot, along with the thousands of plain, ordinary citizens who saw the planes strike.
Terrence | Homepage | 04.02.06 - 12:10 pm | #

hundreds??? HAHAHAHAH!!!! there was 650 people at the drg talk in oakland.... it was sold out and many people were turned away.... thats 650 people willing to go out on a rainy thursday night and pay 10 bucks to hear some dude talk....

ds, Charlie sheen was a

ds,

Charlie sheen was a major cokehead and he is still able to figure out the governement's fables and the anamolies surrounding 9/11, so why can't you?

Hi Terrence, Thanks for your

Hi Terrence,

Thanks for your reasonable inquiry. A good starting point is to get acquainted with the 9/11 Commission Report and the criticisms of it. If this report is not credible, where does that leave us. Good luck on your journey!

"The American people don't read."
-- former CIA Director Allen Dulles on how the American people would respond to the inconsistencies in the Warren Commission report
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+American+people+don%27t+read...

Interesting review of

Interesting review of Fahrenheit 9/11, the reviewer suggests Moore should make a movie about the 9/11 truth movement

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/04/02/074502.php

chilling photo of bushes at

people like ds know damn

people like ds know damn well that 911 was an inside job - they're just too cowardly to admit that they think it was a good idea, and maybe they're just bitter because they weren't included in the frantic put options that took place with the UA & AA stock in the days prior to 911.

I think its time to go to a

I think its time to go to a member based forum for 911blogger... This trolling above is getting out of hand and is easily preventable.
JUSTANIDEA | 04.02.06 - 2:29 pm | #

I agree. If you want to make sure you are discussing things amongst yourselves and that opposition to your belief system is never broached - then a member based forum is the way to go...

Hey guys, I have already

Hey guys, I have already gave DZ some suggestions on this. When he gets back, hopefully he'll make some changes.

I see DS just sent in a

I see DS just sent in a complaint that he was banned. The only person that can ban on this site is DZ, and he is out of town as far as I know.

DS, maybe you need to consider taking a Computers 101 course.

Let me know how it goes, also:

NBC News – September 11, 2001: “Albert Turi the Chief of Safety for the New York Fire Department received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off… he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building”

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/NBC_WTC_SecondaryDevices.mp3

Originally posted: Also, due

Originally posted: Also, due to the number of government officials (2)we have recently attracted, the requirement that users register at the site would help keep the number of purely abusive and nonsensical posts down to a minimum.

Crisis, reaction, solution (to hinder the free and open exchange of ideas, the hallmark of any democracy)?

Anyone who still believes that Dems and Reps comprise opposition more honest than professional wrestling is brainwashed (giving them the benefit of the doubt, that is).

Anyone who still would have others believe that 9/11 can be blamed on "NeoCons" is similarly suspect in my book.

The only thing more revealing than the content of Bush's self-implicating, incriminating 9/11 witness statements is the total non-reaction to them by Democrats!!!

BTW, pro wrestling is more honest than the fake phony false Dem-Rep paradigm in the sense that all the performers in tights know that their opponent is not out to really do them harm (ie, that it is, at least to some degree, staged), while plenty of those in ties embroiled in the generations-old fake phony false Dem-Rep thing are themselves taken in (ie, fooled) by it!
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Here's what I did... I

Here's what I did... I created a new forum on my site called 911Blogger.com Deep Discussions.

If you want to continue a discussion without the troll interruptions, feel free to create a thread over there, and talk without anyone bothering you.

You can use this until dz and sbg work something out, if they're going to.

I think this Flght 93 film

I think this Flght 93 film is a disgusting insult.

Perhaps an email/snailmail compaign to movie theatre employees? Maybe they'll all quit, and the MSM will pick it up

I am a govt agent sent here

I am a govt agent sent here to spread lies and disinfo. Demand the truth.
ds | 04.02.06 - 11:19 am | #

Finally.

dz, isn't it time to set up TypePad access?

Not another

Not another grafic-overloaded HORRIBLE
ybbs.com

We all like Haloscan, BECAUSE it is so simple, and has no restrictions.

The ONLY thing missing is an ALERT to see whether someone has answered you.

please think of us MODEM 33k users.

re: 3rd Term

Christine McIntyre? mahoney? zandt?

Use the google lie detector..
in this case an april fools joke detector.

Not a bad bumsteer, though... look
how many of you fell for it.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Christine+McIntyre%22+mahoney+zandt

Anyone know that Alex Jones

Anyone know that Alex Jones was on MTV?

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/020406MTV.htm

I just finished watching the video and the MTV interviewer is a bit "in the dark"

not to mention a bit

not to mention a bit childish

First they ignore you, then

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.

The full transcript is now

The full transcript is now available for the Weldon meeting...

Click Here

...

Terrence said... "I agree.

Terrence said...

"I agree. If you want to make sure you are discussing things amongst yourselves and that opposition to your belief system is never broached - then a member based forum is the way to go..."

Terrence, there's a difference between intelligent debate and mindless trolling. "Opposing our belief system" requires facts....not silly cracks about taco bell employees and JR Ewing.

I have no problem with people opposing my belief system, as long as they use sound information backed by facts, which most trolls are unwilling to do. I've been reading the info on www.911myths.com, and the author actually does a good job of debunking (or at least attempting to debunk) many of the claims made by 9/ll conspiracy theorists. You trolls need to arm yourselves with something other than insults if you want to accomplish anything. I think I speak for all 9/11 truthers when I say that I'm not going to suddenly change my mind because somebody calls me a lunatic. We are all well aware that we are the sane ones. We all know what we saw (or in many cases DIDN'T see). Nobody is making anything up (well, ok...the holographic planes theory is a bit "out there".) Unless you and your friends have some new info that can convince us that we actually didn't see what we saw with our own two eyes, or actually saw something that we didn't see (like 2 of the 4 planes), then you are just wasting your time. I'm telling you this for your own sake. But if it makes you feel better, then by all means keep doing what you're doing.

right! I, in fact, have

right! I, in fact, have designed a tin foil hat that is superior by far to the models that are available in stores.

Blimp--"The only thing more

Blimp--"The only thing more revealing than the content of Bush's self-implicating, incriminating 9/11 witness statements is the total non-reaction to them by Democrats"

I totally agree w/you, Blimp. It amazes me that the Dems won't even criticize the GOP based on the INCOMPETENCE theory of 9/11, let alone any LIHOP & MIHOP!

Why the hell don't the Dems at least nail the obvious issues, like Bush & Co. TOTALLY FAILED the U.S. re: 9/11???

Why don't the Dems ask why Cheney (a nut who can't even handle a shotgun safely) was conducting/botching numerous war exercises that day??? This is not in a vice president's job description that I know of!

Why did Bush act so absurdly & recklessly that day, even for him??? A previous "terrorist" target is hit by an airliner and Bush quips that "he must have been a really bad pilot." Then a 2nd airliner strikes and Bush still does nothing??? He doesn't even want continuous updates??? He has no questions for anyone about anything??? Bullshit!!!

It certainly seems that many Dems must be complicit in covering up this high treason also!

[b] The Associated Press

[b] The Associated Press reported recently that the US government conducted a massive simulated attack on the Internet called "Cyber-Storm". The war game was designed, among other things, to "respond to misinformation campaigns and activist calls by internet bloggers, online diarists whose 'Web logs' include political rantings and musings about current events".[/b]

Wow...I read that first article on Buzzflash...the one about Rumsfeld, the CFR, and wargames to crack down on dissenting webblogs. If that shit ever comes to pass(ie: the US gov systematically cracking down on webblogs and online voices on a large scale) we know the shit will have really hit the fan.

"I think I speak for all

"I think I speak for all 9/11 truthers when I say that I'm not going to suddenly change my mind because somebody calls me a lunatic."

I'm aware of the fact that you have a belief system that you will not allow to be challenged. When someone does, they are shouted down and insulted.

The great thing about living in freedom is that we can all believe what we want: 9/11 was an inside job, a flying saucer landed in area 51, poison contrails, bigfoot or the earth is flat.

The people who believe in the above, believe with a religious fervour that does not allow for conversation, unless both parties are in agreement.

That's why a member based forum is the way to go for you folks if you don't want to be reminded of the facts from folks like me...

victor and lisa??? WTF???

victor and lisa??? WTF??? gee I wish they would just go away.

Maryland Mary, you like

Maryland Mary, you like Terrence's brand new blog too? The one that dismisses all questions with TWO whole sources of authority? Who's this Steve Vogel of the Washington post that you cite, probably a good man of course, but goodness, he appears to have written about ufos! http://www.bibleufo.com/media23.htm Oh well. How 'bout them three NORAD timelines!

OK Maryland Mary, offer us a

OK Maryland Mary, offer us a fact.