Weekend Grab Bag
Things sure have quieted down, the calm before the storm? While we're waiting for the next big thing, here's a little light reading for you:
Can't Have Your Cake and Eat It Too
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com
Bottom line: There could not have been both beginning-of-collapse dust clouds (indicating huge, violently-competing forces) AND collapses at virtually free-fall speeds (indicating only small, minor competition of forces and little resistance).
Weekly Sedition: "Loose Change 9/11"
http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=17464
This is an interview with Korey Rowe, producer of the documentary "Loose Change 9/11".
Loose Change 2nd Edition with Dutch Subtitles
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7763546943852727250
9/11 Documentary with high quality dutch subtitles. This video is public domain and distribution is encouraged by the makers.
Webster Tarpley - Dollar Demise
http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=17494
Webster describes the pending global currency problem for the US petro-dollar. Very current info on global finance.
Was Major 9/11 Evidence Planted In Order To Mislead The Public?
http://www.explosive911analysis.com/Major%20Evidence%20Part%202.html
by Aidan Monaghan, Independent 9/11 Researcher
Giuliani Tells Moussaoui Jury About 9/11
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060406/ap_on_re_us/moussaoui_55
At one point, Giuliani said he had been told that up to 10 airplanes were unaccounted for...
Impeachment without Blowjobs
http://observer.bard.edu/articles/opinions/229
His administration was complicit in and continues to benefit from the September 11 attacks on New York, Pennsylvania, and Washington, D.C.
...
You'd be equally nuts to believe the government's official account of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. So far, the best challenge of the official account is a wonderful and easily read book, David Ray Griffin's The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11. It's not just a good idea to read this book; it's your patriotic duty.
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A leaked report on the
A leaked report on the London bombings says the Internet allowed non-Al-Qaida related suicide bombers to conduct the attack:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1750139,00.html
This may be a diversion necessitated by the fact that the suspected mastermind of the attack, Haroon Rashid Aswat, turned out to be a British intelligence agent:
"The July 29 edition of FOX News Channel's Day Side programme revealed that the so called mastermind of the 7/7 London Bombings, Haroon Rashid Aswat, is a British Intelligence Asset."
http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=1124824797
Will attempts to suppress the Internet intensify as a result of this?
Isn't is also funny that one of the London bombers would have enjoyed, of all things, a hamburger at McDonalds just before blowing himself up, as e.g. the Independent reported:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article307981.ece
He apparently liked hamburgers so much that he wanted to have a final taste right before going to meet his Maker. As someone has suggested, perhaps he was also afraid that such Western delicacies are not available in the Muslim heaven.
That, combined with the fact that the youths had bought return train tickets to London, is interesting. These things strongly suggest they thought they were going to return from whatever they were participating in.
And what about the following:
"On a BBC Radio 5 interview, Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, revealed that his firm had 1,000 people working on an 'excercise' involving a bombing in the London underground at the same time that the actual terrorist attacks erupted. The exercise also involved simultaneous bomb blasts at the same locations that were actually struck."
For a transcript of Power's interview and a link to the audio recording, visit
http://www.envirosagainstwar.org/know/read.php?itemid=2927
Several statisticians have concluded that the probability for the exercises and the real events coinciding that way -- independently of each other -- temporally, spatially, and methodologically, is infinitesimally small.
I don't think any authority ever questioned Power regarding the anti-terrorism drills.
Did the young Muslims believe they were participating in an anti-terrorist exercise?
It is incredible that the mainstream media seem to totally avoid asking the obvious questions. A radical Muslim eats a Big Mac right before blowing himself up. Odd? Well, Muslims are like that. Especially radical Muslims, I guess...
From a broader view, it is very interesting that anti-terrorism exercises and real terrorist strikes have often coincided, as in the USA on September 11th 2001 (Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, but no other politician, questioned the Defense Minister about these exercises*) and in Moscow in 1999 (where one of the bombs that triggered and justified the Second Chechen War was defused in time and was finally, after an intensive terrorist hunt, declared to be just part of an unannounced antiterrorist exercise **).
* "Mr. Chairman, I have a question"
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030105_mckinney_question.shtml
"The Fifth Bomb"
** http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/fifthbomb.htm
One way of making sense of all this
might be to read Swiss historian Daniele Ganser's book "NATO's
Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe" --
see
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/collections/coll_gladio.htm
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/documents/collection_gladio/endorsements.htm
Does anyone have contacts with the British 7/7 Truth Movement?
I won't be appearing here for another week or so (winter holiday). Thanks to all constructive posters on this great forum.
Patriotic duty to read the
Patriotic duty to read the book???
Its our patriotic DUTY to fucking kick the shit out of Bush and his admin and out of the fucking country!!
Griffin, Jones, etc... are
Griffin, Jones, etc... are Professors. I'm just some guy on the net.
And hardly anyone showed up
And hardly anyone showed up tonight. :( (Even though I'm well aware Saturday night probably wasn't the best night to schedule the "class").
For those with an interest
For those with an interest in these things: Blogsites (1)(2) following the Plame-Miller saga are now coming to the view that Judith Miller may have been a DoD agent feeding disinfo to the NYT. One very interesting report is the following:
"In July of 2001, Steve Engelberg, then an editor at The New York Times, looked up to see Judy Miller standing at his desk. As Engelberg recalls, Miller had just learned from a source about an intercepted communication between two Al Qaeda members who were discussing how disappointed they were that the United States had never attempted to retaliate for the bombing of the USS Cole."
"... Not to worry, one of them said, soon they were going to do something so big that the U.S. would have to retaliate."
"...Miller was naturally excited about the scoop and wanted the Times to go with the story. Engelberg, himself a veteran intelligence reporter, wasnÂ’t so sure. There had been a lot of chatter about potential attacks; how did they know this was anything other than big talk? Who were these guys? What country were they in? How had we gotten the intercept? Miller didnÂ’t have any answers and Engelberg didnÂ’t think they could publish without more context. Miller agreed to try and find out more, but in the end the story never ran."
Was this an attempt by the neocons to condition people to expect a 9/11 type attack?
Seymour Hersch is reporting
Seymour Hersch is reporting that the Bush Oil Mafia is planning a nuclear attack on Iran.
Time to hit the streets
Scott Ritter and Ray
Scott Ritter and Ray McGovern speeches:
http://www.bigsurinternet.com/scott.ritter.html
Ron Paul on the next war:
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9440
It's good to laugh
It's good to laugh sometimes. Nice title somebigguy... Impeachment without blowjobs... Priceless!
I would LOVE it if someone
I would LOVE it if someone took over for next week's class... "The 9/11 Commission"...
You are correct about Sat
You are correct about Sat nights, Jon. (Many of your students probably out drinking beer.) But you are an honorary prof. of 9/11, nevertheless!
thanks
thanks
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/fo
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9458
Ray Mcgovern talks about Zelikow...
I'll try to get Thomas Keen
I'll try to get Thomas Keen to fill in for you.
Leak Reveals Official Story
Leak Reveals Official Story Of London Bombings, Several Unanswered Questions
Note: there were some idiots
Note: there were some idiots who messed up the "Opie and Anthony Yell At Jason Bermas" thread below. Now they seem to be here.
I watched a video on Alex
I watched a video on Alex JonesÂ’ Inforwars.com entitled: The Infowars Team Confronts 9/11 Whitewasher Thomas Kean at Southwestern University from 3/31/06. http://www.infowars.com/index.html
Therein, one of Alex JonesÂ’ men asked 9/11 Commissioner Thomas Kean what happened to WTC-7. Kean gave a dishonest, unacceptable response. His curt, deceitful answer is indicative of a cover-up. KEAN SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO FRAUDULENTLY DODGE THIS KEY 9/11 QUESTION!!! WE MUST DEMAND A REAL ANSWER!!!
Here is my written transcript of said question & answer:
Question From Alex JonesÂ’ Associate: At 5:20 pm on Sept 11, WT building #7, a 47-story modern-framed steel skyscraper that no plane hit, collapsed into a neat little pile onto itself, and, exhibited all the characteristics of a controlled demolition.
The guy who owned the place, Larry Silverstein, basically admitted on a documentary, on PBS, that he got together with the NY Fire Dept. & pulled the building, which is a demolition term for taking it down.
FEMA, in their investigation, didnÂ’t say that. They said the fire must have knocked it down, but they couldnÂ’t figure out how.
Video evidence shows what appears to be explosive squibs going up the side of the building, from south to north, or from bottom to top as the building collapsed. There was molten metal found in the basement of that building at temperatures exceeding anything normal fire can cause.
With all the confusion about what happened to building #7, why is there not a WORD about the collapse of that building in the 9/11 Commission Report?
Answer from Commissioner Thomas Kean: We didnÂ’t see anything...any evidence of the kind of thing youÂ’re talking about. We thought that was one part of the tragedy of 9/11, the building collapsed later on, it was not loss of life in that building, and it was not, not part of our report.
Question from Alex JonesÂ’ Associate: Not part of the report? Thank you.
BULLSHIT COVER-UP!!!
The purpose of the 9/11
The purpose of the 9/11 Commission was to resolve the unanswered questions.
Studying the videos & pictures of WTC-1 & WTC-2 indicates that they exploded & erupted like a volcano & fell like an avalanche, with no resistance, at free-fall speed. Moreover, steel superstructures do not have some "tipping point" that makes them crash down like a landslide of cascading dominos as contained fires die out. Same thing applies to WTC-7.
So, Commissioner Thomas Keen, since WTC-7 imploded, we must assume that it was “pulled” with explosives like Larry Silverstein said. EXPLOSIVES ALSO EXPLAIN THE PHENOMENA OBSERVED AT WTC-1 & WTC-2.
If there was a murder in
If there was a murder in your neighborhood, and one of your neighbors vehemently tried to tell the police that the murder didn't need to be investigated, and then you found that neighbor burying a bloody shoe, what would you think of that neighbor?
I know what you mean, prof.
I know what you mean, prof. Gold!
call hanoi jane fonda
call hanoi jane fonda
This guy Marc Levin is on
This guy Marc Levin is on "Must Be McCuddy" talking about his new skinemax--er, Cinemax--movie called "The Protocols of Zion." It talks about the rumor that Jewish people were warned about 9/11, but appears to be just like street conversations about it, and that type of thing--more showing the culture of blaming Jews or something.
http://www.protocolsofzionmovie.com/
I think it's just another attempt to trash all 9/11 "conspiracy theorists," this time treating them as anti-semetics.
Hey Michael Cook, that was
Hey Michael Cook, that was the title of the article, but I'm glad you liked it.
Regarding the guys messing up the Opie and Anthony thread below, thats probably the O&A army attacking us. All 5 of them...
start praying that a certain
start praying that a certain idiot from baja oklahoma doesnt use nukes
Any beer we drank Saturday
Any beer we drank Saturday night was only as an occasion to deliver more DVDs into needy hands. Plus it's always good for a Saturday night to swing by the churches on the way home.
Fantastic article by Sheila
Fantastic article by Sheila Samples re: Doug Thompson's absurd denial of 9/11 truth:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0604/S00090.htm
I especially liked these paragraphs:
"Thompson says he was at the Pentagon on 9/11 where he interviewed "dozens" of witnesses who saw the plane hit. He smelled the burning jet fuel. He says he's flown Boeing 757, 767, and 777 flight simulators, and he can safely assure us "the maneuvers made by the hijackers on September 11 were relatively simple course corrections that are not that difficult in planes equipped with modern navigational computers." Well, I've never flown a simulator, but I once knew a guy who practiced his riding skills on a mechanical bull, but when he hit the rodeo circuit, he got his ass stomped in two seconds flat."
"According to a site dedicated solely to Pentagon research, Hani Hanjour, the pilot of Flight 77, was refused the rental of a Cessna 172 just weeks prior to 9/11 because of his sadly lacking maneuvering skills. But after reading a 757 manual on the way to the airport, Hanjour was able to cruise over the unsecured White House, enter Reagan International airspace while performing a 270-degree turn with a 7,000-foot drop in altitude in 2.5 minutes with military precision -- then hit five 25-foot, 293-pound steel lamp poles, a fence, a 39,500-pound generator trailer, two cable spools, two single-wide mobile home construction trailers and a tree -- before slamming into the only wedge in the Pentagon under construction, leaving only a couple pieces of debris small enough to hold in your hands. He left "no tail, no wings, no engines, no horizontal stablizer, no passenger seats, no luggage and no aircraft cargo," and left the lawn in front of the Pentagon untouched."
...Judith Miller may have
...Judith Miller may have been a DoD agent feeding disinfo to the NYT.
damien | 04.09.06 - 2:34 am | #
I'd say CIA, and the Times knew about it.
Here are the past two
Here are the past two classes so far...
For Review...
More Lies: The environment
More Lies:
The environment around the WTC was perfectly safe after 9/11???? The shirt this dude wore for two days back then is still loaded with toxins today!
NY Post 4/9/06 -- Sky-high toxic levels of potentially deadly asbestos still cling to the fibers of this ordinary white dress shirt — worn by a 9/11 volunteer for two days at Ground Zero, a shocking analysis sought by The Post reveals. http://www.nypost.com/
re: 9/11 environmental
re: 9/11 environmental issues, here's a 6 minute clip on the topic (for newcomers)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5086309329875984374
I may be wrong, but I think
I may be wrong, but I think the US will not attack or bomb Iran. IMO it is simply too big a risk, even on a conventional scale. Apart from inevetible problems that will arise with China and Russia (who would probably strongly oppose an attack), Iran has around 1000 warplanes, 2000+ armored vehicles, 4500+ artillery units, and a quarter million of troops which in case of a war will easily grow into several million overnight.
"Patriotic duty to read the
"Patriotic duty to read the book???
Its our patriotic DUTY to fucking kick the shit out of Bush and his admin and out of the fucking country!!"
That's the truth.
http://www.nypost.com/ SOMEON
http://www.nypost.com/
SOMEONE TEST THAT DAMN SHIRT FOR EXPLOSIVE RESIDUE NOW!!!!
And what about the clean up that is still going on in the other buildings.....can someone get a hold of a baggie of dust blown into those buildings?
Wouldn't this eliminate any debate? Am I out of the loop and this testing has been done already?
"I may be wrong, but I think
"I may be wrong, but I think the US will not attack or bomb Iran. IMO it is simply too big a risk, even on a conventional scale. Apart from inevetible problems that will arise with China and Russia (who would probably strongly oppose an attack), Iran has around 1000 warplanes, 2000+ armored vehicles, 4500+ artillery units, and a quarter million of troops which in case of a war will easily grow into several million overnight."
I do agree with what you're saying, however, that doesn't mean this Administration wouldn't be stupid enough to do it. Jack Straw just said the idea of striking Iran is "nuts".
Again... is the idea of
Again... is the idea of striking Iran "nuts" if there's another 9/11?
They've got the sheeple
They've got the sheeple afraid of another attack from Al-Qaeda, and us afraid of another attack from them.
The difference between us
The difference between us and the sheeple is that we're agressively fighting against them... we do need to be more visible though.
We need to take to the
We need to take to the streets, period, because the criminality of our Government right now is disgusting.
This is one of my favorites
This is one of my favorites regarding Iran...
Bush Administration: Iran Can Make And Deliver Atomic Arms
"We need to take to the
"We need to take to the streets, period." Jon, I feel exactly the same way. I have heard David Ray Griffin say something like this will take a massive mobilization of people in the streets. The same thing that Cindy Sheehan says about the war. I am in L.A. and I am out there almost every time. And I am very frequently the only one with a 9/11 Truth sign. There was one particular demo at Hollywood & Higland last Dec. and there were about ten 9/11 Truth signs. This was a noticeable and impressive showing, and I have not seen that since here. I have tried to impress upon my associates the importance of VISIBILITY. How will anyone know there "is" a 9/11 Truth Movement if we are not visible? Anyone who does not have a 9/11 Truth bumpersticker, GET ONE! (I have had several for about two years, and my vehicle has not been vandalized, but that's a decision you have to make.) Can you imagine if we saw even as many Truth bumperstickers as the Kerry stickers that some people still have on their cars? I know 9/11 Truth is key to ending this madness. And you know it Jon. I would like to see more anti-war protestors picking up 9/11 Truth signs. And more of us getting out there, period.
Loud: Didn't I hear that
Loud: Didn't I hear that Fetzer, or someone, has a dust sample? By the way, are we still going to find out what "loose change" means?
"Cindy Sheehan" One of those
"Cindy Sheehan"
One of those people that truthers need to stay the hell away from. She's a moonbat. Some of you may disagree with that, but most of you probably won't disagree with this: she has no utility as a truther. Her motivation would, possibly correctly, be interpreted as being "Bush-hatred gone too far".
"going to find out what "loose change" means?"
The amount of money von Kleist was paid by the CIA to produce In Plane Site? :o
I remember Dylan Avery or
I remember Dylan Avery or one of those guys answering in response to a question, that we would find out "what loose change means" this year. I have a wild theory which I will keep to myself.
If the CIA paid von Kleist
If the CIA paid von Kleist to film "In Plane Site" it sure backfired on them. I would still be un-aware that 9/11 was an inside job had I not seen that flick. So would countless other 9/11 truth activists.
A lot of us have been wrong,
A lot of us have been wrong, and a lot of us have been right. If someone has been wrong, and is repeatedly wrong, then that's someone you should avoid.
hey gang, i just found these
hey gang, i just found these cool songs about 9/11 and published them on indymedia: http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/04/9285.php
hope they get played on the radio.
I may have a need for free
I may have a need for free video-editing software to make short September 11 videos. The only functionality I need is cut+combine, as well as basic audio track control, ease-of-use is important. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Quick question. Is there a
Quick question. Is there a way to download, record, or save streaming video and audio? Thanks guys.
Able: Zwei-Stein Video
Able:
Zwei-Stein Video Editor is freeware:
http://www.snapfiles.com/php/download.php?id=103995&a=7124526&tag=341351...
Mike Jr:
XiSoft's NET TRANSPORT will allow you to save hard copies of streams on your computer.
http://www.xi-soft.com/
Thanks DHS
Thanks DHS
Right I'll check that out,
Right I'll check that out, thanks
Dear "anonymous" who posted
Dear "anonymous" who posted the Sheila Samples bit...
Thanks.
dz, is it time for TypePad access or what?
Able, DHS; Check windows
Able, DHS;
Check windows moive maker 2 as well;
http://www.download.com/Windows-Movie-Maker/3000-2194_4-10187903.html
^ Brilliant free program!
OK! btw
OK!
btw http://summeroftruth.org/ has been turned into a link farm... expired domain registration? Weren't they supposed to have something about Improbable Collapse today?
HAHAHAHA, funniest shit I've
HAHAHAHA, funniest shit I've ever heard, Sean Hannity from fox news got PWND by Alec Baldwin lol of all people....
Check it LOL;
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Whitman-Baldwin-Hannity-Levin.mp3
maddog said: If the CIA paid
maddog said: If the CIA paid von Kleist to film "In Plane Site" it sure backfired on them. I would still be un-aware that 9/11 was an inside job had I not seen that flick. So would countless other 9/11 truth activists.
Same here -- that was my introduction, via a friend, to questioning 9/11 back in '03. It opened the door to David Ray Griffin and Michael Ruppert, among others. I quickly learned that von Kleist's arguments weren't the best and too controversial, but he certainly opened the door for a lot of people.
Anonymous, thank you for
Anonymous, thank you for that link to the new Sheila Samples article over at Scoop, which bears repeating here:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0604/S00090.htm
dz and SMG, please feature this one. It's quite perplexing why Doug Thompson at Capitol Hill Blue has become so irrationally anti-9/11 truth. Sheila Samples exposes his hypocrisy, but like the rest of us, can't quite figure out what's going on -- it's out of character for Thompson. In my more paranoid moments, I wonder if he and/or his family have been threatened.
http://keepvid.com/ To save
http://keepvid.com/
To save vids from video.google.com, ifilm, youtube...
It blew my mind when I read
It blew my mind when I read Dog Thompson's hit piece on 9/11 truth. I couldn't believe what I was reading. I figured he must be back on the booze. Needless to say he has lost all credibility with me. There was no excuse for that. As far as Mike Ruppert goes, that really hurt when he turned his back on the truth movement. I supposed he was "Seduced by the Dark Side." You figure it, I can't.
Real Men Stand Up To
Real Men Stand Up To Fascists:
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/04/real-men-stand-up-to-fascis...
I suspect Ruppert agrees
I suspect Ruppert agrees with some of the stuff about controlled demolitions and maybe even more, but loathes research based on images only, and some of the freak theories it produced.
Loud Studios wrote: "SOMEONE
Loud Studios wrote:
"SOMEONE TEST THAT DAMN SHIRT FOR EXPLOSIVE RESIDUE NOW!!!!
"And what about the clean up that is still going on in the other buildings.....can someone get a hold of a baggie of dust blown into those buildings?"
Several independent investigations were done in October 2001 for NYC because of concerns of toxins.
There were toxins and they are effecting those who worked at ground zero.
Oh, no traces of explosives were ever found in the dust. Just another nail in the coffin of those whacky 9/11 conspiracy theories everyone here believes.
Sorry to disappoint y'all.