Charlie Sheen on Jimmy Kimmel Live

Late night TV discusses the unanswered questions of 9/11. Charlie Sheen suggests people do their own research and decide for themselves:

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=60

My favorite part was the

My favorite part was the comment that "I thought I had the right because I am a taxpaying citizen who loves my country," followed by applause

Thats great stuff, I figured

Thats great stuff, I figured he wouldn't be saying anything, so I didn't bother watching. This was a pleasant surprise this morning.

Same here sbg.

Same here sbg.

Same here, I was surprised

Same here, I was surprised it was even brought up. Kimmel has got some guts putting his show at risk. I wonder how well his show do in the ratings?

By the way I came across this article on flight 93 landing in Cleveland on the morning of 9/11. Can any confirm this if it's true or not?

http://web.archive.org/web/20021109040132/http://wcpo.com/specials/2001/...

Hey Geggy, thats the

Hey Geggy, thats the "Cleveland Airport Mystery", just google that and you'll get more info then you can imagine. Gerard Holmgren did a pretty in depth analysis of the whole thing to show that 2 planes did in fact land there that day.

Its Gerard's analysis that made it into loose Change 2.

Today is a GREAT day. Happy

Today is a GREAT day. Happy Easter everybody.

The Sheen interview was very

The Sheen interview was very good. I liked him telling the audience, "Do your own research."

Kind of sad that you dildos

Kind of sad that you dildos get all excited with what a hack like Charlie S says on late, late, night TV..

I'd like to take this opportunity to re-iterate that not a single structural engineer has supported the 9/11 theory of controlled demolition of the WTC towers. And in fact, every single structural engineer in the entire US (and the world as far as I know) finds the official explanation more than adequate. Only you nutjobs who are not experts think otherwise...

Thanks bigguy I admit I

Thanks bigguy

I admit I don't focus much on flight 93. I just wasn't sure about the article because I recalled flight 93 took off in NJ and not Boston as it was confirmed in the article. I'll have to look deeper into that. Thnks again.

You're funny, terrence, I

You're funny, terrence, I like you.

Lets see if you can explain the following facts on buildings 5 and 6...

-both stood closer to buildings 1 and 2 than building 7 did
-both had much thinner steel columns than buildings 1, 2 and 7
-both suffered far more damage than building 7 after the collapsing of buildings 1 and 2
-both did not collapse, yet building 7 did

I'd like to take this

I'd like to take this opportunity to re-iterate that not a single structural engineer has supported the 9/11 theory of controlled demolition

Don't you think that odd if you're in the tinfoil hat camp? How can you ignore that big matzo ball sitting out there?

Perhaps yours isn't tight enough?

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

Charlie Sheen was absolutely

Charlie Sheen was absolutely fantastic last night and so was host Jimmy Kimmel!!! (Kimmel got into it immediately!)
They are both risking a great deal to question the “official story” of 9/11. I think we should send them much e-mail in appreciation of their efforts.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/jimmykimmel/

http://www.bravocharlie911.com/

Nice YouTube video of Sheen/Kimmel here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UmxPYiP9go&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epriso...

An outstanding read; How We

An outstanding read;

How We Got to Here -- > PNAC 101
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

We should just ban the

We should just ban the people who are paid to distract us.

ON TOPIC: Charlie sheen did a great job. I think he made he case that he's completely justified in questioning what happened on 9/11, and that as of yet, nobody has "challenged him on the facts."

But Terry, Mr. Silverstein

But Terry, Mr. Silverstein explained this on PBS. Pay attention. He & the fire dept "pulled-it", they "pulled-it" real good!

"We should just ban the

"We should just ban the people who are paid to distract us."

Paid? You paranoids crack me up.

Besides, the moderators here have attempted to censor and ban me already. Which is typical of true-believers who don't like unpleasant questions being asked of their faith...

Wow, not a single engineer

Wow, not a single engineer supported the contolled demolition theory. I'm really convinced now. Thanks for challenging me on the facts.

I'm surprised though to see the sales of aluminium foils are starting to slow down now. Damn those 9/11 truth seekers for spreading out facts and convincing a whole lot of people into doubting the official story. The CEO's of aluminium foil corporation must be steaming pissed by now.

"We should just ban the

"We should just ban the people who are paid to distract us."

Paid? You paranoids crack me up.

Besides, the moderators here have attempted to censor and ban me already. Which is typical of true-believers who don't like unpleasant questions being asked of their faith...
Terrence | Homepage | 04.15.06 - 10:55 am | #

Thank you, moderators. Keep it up. Another vote here for banning and deleting posts by trolls.

I guess Thomas Keen never

I guess Thomas Keen never responded to this letter to him re: WTC-7,
http://www.aztlan.net/911_commission.htm

OK, why not challenge

OK, why not challenge Terrence on the facts? He says not a single structural engineer supports a theory of controlled demolition. I'm not expert on the controlled demolition angle. Is his statement accurate? If so, say so. If not, say why not.

Terrence It doesnt matter if

Terrence

It doesnt matter if a single structural engineer supports us, or a million engineers supports us. not a single one of them can defy the laws of physics!

1.) 47 stories + 6.6 seconds + pancake = impossible

THIS CAN NOT BE DUPLICATED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSO-EVER!!!!!!

2.) symmetrical collapse from a fire that does not spread throughout the entire building = impossible

THIS ALSO CAN NOT BE DUPLICATED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSO-EVER!!!!!!

3) Trusses and columns that do not burn extremely hot, and burn less than an hour do not have enough energy to RIP 47 columns from a building SIMULTANEOUSLY

...There are much more GLARING facts that do not need the approval of any Engineer to state its impossiblity

That's what Terrence (Sky

That's what Terrence (Sky King) wants you to do: waste your time debating him instead of doing actual research.

I'm all for challenging actual official story-believers on the facts.

Terrence needs someone with

Terrence needs someone with a PHD to hold his hand crossing the street.

Bannanation!

The top story at Terrence's

The top story at Terrence's home page states that WTC7 collapsed because of the impact of the planes.

I watched the Sheen

I watched the Sheen interview last night live, and frankly, I was a bit disappointed. Sheen seemed nervous discussing 9/11 on Kimmel, and was dismissive by just having "questions". Perhaps he could have turned the tables on his 9/11 detractors and lampooned the official story as a big joke- after all, it was a late night comedy talk show. My 2 cents. Pleased to see this morning that everyone liked the interview. Maybe I was just tired, or expecting too much. I am also pleased that Sheen supposedly talked to Alex right after being on. That's an alliance that's VERY GOOD for this Movement!

JJ

Terrence, please read

Seriously though: is there a

Seriously though: is there a structural engineer who supports us?

sorry - I didn't see the

sorry - I didn't see the post above until after I posted...

darryl: probably.

darryl: probably.

Terry, perhaps no structural

Terry, perhaps no structural engineers want to be fired & blacklisted like chemist Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories was when he dared questioned WTC-7.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041112144051451
After all, anyone offensive to our Glorious Führer Bush may incur the rath of the 4th Reich!

Haha, I'm not the only one

Haha, I'm not the only one who thinks Terrence is the biggest shill on the web: Sky King.

From his own comments on his blog:

ahhh!

type the word "Shill" into a pho-blog, and the most famous apologist for the Govt's version of 9/11 shows up! hehe

Come everyone!! Meet The FAMOUS SHILL, and daisy-committee member extraordinaire..."sky king"!!

KING of all internet Government Shills!

still Shillin' and whoring yourself out for the Official Conspiricy story I see...'eh "sky king".

BTW...which member of the daisy-committee are you today??

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=25239004&postID=114487400839764145

"In fact, I have heard

"In fact, I have heard second-hand that many structural engineers question the official story, but are afraid to say so publicly for fear of losing their jobs and their funding."

If that's not a pathetic response, I don't know what is - you conspiradroids need to hang your heads if you believe THAT one....

Besides what about structural engineers from Canada, Australia, Japan, the EU etc. How many of them support the contolled demolition theory?

Answer? None. Interesting - no?

Terrance will invoke the

Terrance will invoke the Popular meachanics article next i guess?
The one written by Michael Chertoff's cousin. LOL!!!

GW: did you read the replies

GW: did you read the replies to your article regarding EXPLOSIVE toner?

I'm laughing out loud.

Does Fire Engineering

Does Fire Engineering Magazine count for you Terrance?
http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=OnlineArticle...

"Burning Questions...Need

"Burning Questions...Need Answers": FE's Bill Manning Calls for Comprehensive Investigation of WTC Collapse

Fair Lawn, NJ, January 4, 2002-Bill Manning, Fire Engineering's editor in chief, is summoning members of the fire service to "A Call to Action." In his January 2002 Editor's Opinion, "$elling Out the Investigation" (below),
http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=OnlineArticle...

One way that 'not a single

One way that 'not a single structural engineer supports the controlled demolition theory' is because they may be loath to state with certainty that the towers were brought down by a controlled demolition. One thing an engineer likes is physical evidence, and we no longer have much of the evidence after it was removed so quickly without examination from the crime scene. However, if 'support' means someone who thinks this possibility is something that should be investigated, I would guess, but do not know, that the number of structural engineers that 'support' the controlled demolition theory is much higher than zero.

So Terrance what is your

So Terrance what is your theory on WTC7 ? Mine is a thousand monkeys with cutting torches severing all welds and bolts at the exact same moment and riding down on the debris like Slim Pickens in Doctor Strangelove. More tinfoil please.

The only official study, one

The only official study, one undertaken by the American Society of Civil Engineers and FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, concluded that:

"The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence." - http://www.pastpeak.com/archives/2004/10/wtc7_a_part_4_2.htm

I think this represents where the structural engineering community stands, at least publicly. It definately is not what I would call a ringing endorsment for the official story.

(Jimmy - Bill Manning is not a structural editor, he is a magazine editor.)

Terrence, a red arrow pushed

Terrence, a red arrow pushed down WTC 7?

Please!

RC, Terrence thinks it is

RC, Terrence thinks it is possible that the impact of the planes brought down WTC7, if you look at the phrasing of the first story at his website carefully. I'm sorry, I jumped to a conclusion. I don't know if Terrence believes what he says.

Nice calls, Darryl.

Nice calls, Darryl.

I'm at the library. The

I'm at the library. The last few 'anonymous' were mine

I have to laugh out loud at

I have to laugh out loud at the gyrations many of you take to justify the fact that wordlwide - not ONE structural engineer supports your theories. You have made 9/11 into a religion - complete with doctrine that must be followed.

Terrence: Blasphemy!

Terrence: Blasphemy!

I do not know that

I do not know that controlled demolition brought down WTC7, or WTC1 and WTC2, Terrance. I do think this possibility need aggressive further investigation. You speak very globally about a wide range of people interested in the truth about the 9/11 attacks, and you paint with a broad and ignorant brush.

People investigating still-open questions about one of the worst crimes in history are doing so from a variety of angles; controlled demolition is only one of them.

9/11 is not a religion, but

9/11 is not a religion, but religious people are questioning why it happened, and because they are religious.

Here is one structural

Here is one structural engineer that 'supports our theories.' He has plenty of company in this regard.

http://books.google.com/books?id=YgDrpBgxquIC&dq=structural+engineers+9/...

Hey escapeTmatrix, I felt

Hey escapeTmatrix, I felt the same way. Watching Sheen made ME feel nervous as he obviously was. However this was his first time speaking on (Live) TV about this. Remember the Showbiz Tonight thing was taped from Jones' radio show. Speaking publicly about 9/11 Truth takes practice.

I usually expect too much as well. This was network TV though so I think it was important. ABC, CNN... whose next? Overall a wonderful late night surprise. And that audience response!
Do send thank you notes to Kimmel.

Terrence, let me ask you one

Terrence, let me ask you one simple question.

Do you believe that the FBI and CIA was behind the 1993 bombing at the world trade center?

Answer the question, depending you your answer I will provide more details.

Hey Terrence, I have not yet

Hey Terrence, I have not yet found a structural engineer to support my Thousand Monkey Theory but as pointed out by darryl it does not seem that A.S.C.E. is willing to lay their ass on the line about this. So I am going with the Monkeys! Hey, Hey, for the Monkeys.

You guys... Terrence and

You guys... Terrence and people like Terrence are here because they take up your time. It doesn't matter what you say to them, they will always have an answer, usually moronic.

"I have to laugh out loud at

"I have to laugh out loud at the gyrations many of you take to justify the fact that wordlwide - not ONE structural engineer supports your theories. You have made 9/11 into a religion - complete with doctrine that must be followed."

Why won't you touch on anything besides the buildings?

I guess you guys didn't see

I guess you guys didn't see this...

Jack Beacon And Chip Berlet Debate 9/11 - Audio Inside

@ Terrence: Examples of

@ Terrence:

Examples of Structural engineers and other experts that have compared the destruction of the WTC to controlled demolition:

People's Daily Online: Why WTC Steel Towers Collapsed at One Blow - September 20, 2001
“Professor Shi Yongjiu, director of civil engineering department of Qinghua University and an expert on steel structure, guesses that the lower part of the WTC twin towers may got seriously damaged.

According to steel structure's mechanical nature, the towers shouldn't collapse as late as an hour later after the planes slammed into. What's more, it should be in a way to topple over gradually instead of crashing down as seen in videotapes. It looks more like a directional blast in doing the job of destruction, so he feels that huge damages must have been done at the lower part of the towers.

...

He was surprised that a 40-storied supportive building [WTC 7] beside the towers should collapse 6 hours later...

Source:
http://english.people.com.cn/english/200109/20/eng20010920_80655.html

-Matthys Levy, Structural Engineer and Co Author of “Why Buildings Fall Down”

"If you've seen many of the managed demolitions where they implode a building and they cause it to essentially to fall vertically because they cause all of the vertical columns to fail simultaneously, that's exactly what it looked like and that's what happened."
Video: www.freepressinternational.com/discovery.html

More expert opinions:

-Judy Wood, PhD (Civil Engineering / Mechanical Engineering)
Mechanical Engineering Professor at Clemson University

“The Case for Controlled Demolition”
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/mechanical-engineering-professor-from....

-Jerry Russell, PhD (MS in Engineering)

“Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC”
http://www.attackonamerica.net/proofofcontrolleddemolitionatwtc.htm

-Frank Demartini - Former Harvard Engineering Professor
Manager, WTC Construction And Project Management
(Died at the WTC on 9-11)

January 25, 2001: "The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jet airliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door,... this intense grid,... and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting."
Video: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/141104designedtotake.htm

-Kevin Ryan – Former Site Manager from Underwriters Labs (UL)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Ryan

On November 11, 2004, Ryan wrote Dr Frank Gayle (NIST), causing his firing from UL.

Excerpt: “This story just does not add up. If steel from those buildings did soften or melt, I'm sure we can all agree that this was certainly not due to jet fuel fires of any kind, let alone the briefly burning fires in those towers. That fact should be of great concern to all Americans. Alternatively, the contention that this steel did fail at temperatures around 250C suggests that the majority of deaths on 9/11 were due to a safety-related failure. That suggestion should be of great concern to my company.”
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0411/S00177.htm

Academic Paper: “Propping Up the War on Terror: Lies about the WTC by NIST and Underwriters Laboratories”
(Scheduled for Publication in “9/11 and the American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out”, Interlink Books, 2006)
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/RyanK_PostingVersion.htm

March 15, 2006 Lecture: "A 9/11 Whistleblower Examines the Official Conspiracy Theory"
Monroe County Public Library, Bloomington, IN
One Hour Lecture MP3 34MB: http://news.wfhb.org/mp3/SRO20060322.mp3

GWB First Term (2000-2004) Employee:

Dr Morgan Reynolds
Retired professor of economics at Texas A&M University
Former chief economist at US Department of Labor says.... 9/11 = INSIDE JOB
http://www.nomoregames.net/

Other Government Insiders Who Say 9/11 Inside Job
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/lost-its-sheen.html

-Van Romero, PhD (Physics) - Expert in Explosive Materials and the Effects of Explosions on Buildings
Vice President for Research and Economic Development
New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology

http://infohost.nmt.edu/~red/van.html

Explosives Planted in Towers, New Mexico Tech Expert Says
Albuquerque Journal, September 14, 2001

”My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse”

"It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that”

"It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed in strategic points.”

Archived Link: http://www.world-action.co.uk/explosives.html

-Former Army Sgt. Mark Johnson, Military Demolition Pro

"From day one on Sept. 11th, after seeing the footage of the airliner striking the WTC on CNN and seeing explosions happening on lower floors of both towers, I knew right then and there that the towers were purposely being imploded,"

Source:
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/30-Jun-2005.html

Class Is Now In Session - A

Class Is Now In Session - A Review

Here are the first three classes. You can't comment in the thread, but the information is there for you to read.

what about the UL guy who

what about the UL guy who made a statement then retracted?

Terrence, may I ask what you

Terrence, may I ask what you do for a living, Sir?

(BTW, I though Kimmel was excellent last night! He questioned Sheen in a most professional & sincere way. I'll bet Kimmel is into the truth also.)

"And in fact, every single

"And in fact, every single structural engineer in the entire US (and the world as far as I know) finds the official explanation more than adequate."

the problem with your logic is that these engineers you speak of (which first of all is a lie that no engineers doubt the collapse mechanisms) already start off with the conclusion that planes brought down the buildings. They are thinking of no other possibility in their minds.

They are doing nothing more than proving the conclusions they have already "believed" to be true.

I do not call this science, i call this pseudo science.

True Scientific research is when you do not simply try to prove your own conclusion, but keep an open mind to the possibilities of other conclusions. None of these scientists who tug the offical story line do this.

Another example of how even scientists get tricked into the infallable official story of the 9/11 bubble.

terrence.... Your not doing a very good job arguing your points.

"You have made 9/11 into a

"You have made 9/11 into a religion - complete with doctrine that must be followed."

lol, anyone else see the irony in that statement?

for someone who clings desperately to the official story as if it were the christian religion, i find it utterly hilarious that you would say this about people who question the official story.

Kurt Nimmo's response to

Kurt Nimmo's response to Doug Thompson's 9/11 hit piece: http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m22583&l=i&size=1&hd=0

"Why won't you touch on

"Why won't you touch on anything besides the buildings?"

because if he does his ego would be utterly destroyed. He has to selectively touch on the stuff that he things is the most rediculous aspect of the 9/11 truth movement.

I'd like a list of names of

I'd like a list of names of those engineers who support the official theory of why 1, 2 and 7 collapsed...I bet I could take them all on!!!!

Me above.

Me above.

What are we planning to do

What are we planning to do on April 28th when the United 93 movie comes out?

"Why won't you touch on

"Why won't you touch on anything besides the buildings?"

because if he does his ego would be utterly destroyed. He has to selectively touch on the stuff that he things is the most rediculous aspect of the 9/11 truth movement."

That's one of the reasons I always stayed away from the WTC, and the Pentagon, etc... you can spend HOURS upons HOURS debating the particulars about those aspects of 9/11 truth.

I like be like BAM and BAM and BAM how ya like me now, etc...

I like TO...

I like TO...

I have a crew that's going

I have a crew that's going to stand just inside the door of all the theatres and hand out loose change/911 revisited dvd's as people walk in.

Greet them with a smile and say "Here's your free DVD :)"

There you go Loud Studios.

There you go Loud Studios. That's exactly what we should be doing.

I was thinking about the

I was thinking about the same thing, but im concerned We will be kicked off "private property". Ill prolly hold a sing saying "Google "The Cleveland Airport Mystery" for the Truth about United 93 Not some Hollywood Glamour Movie, Respect the Dead"
Or something to that effect. If I actually get people that say stuff to me I will have a DVD of Loose Change 2nd edition Ready to hand out to them with the response "Its all in there, assembled by students, proffesors, and Declared "National Heroes" of the Tradgedy."

I hope to bring a video camcorder but I dont own one (it broke) and im not sure I can find one, any suggestions?

Im sure people will be like

Im sure people will be like "How could you disrepect the heroes of the Flight 93"
To which ill respond, "On the contrary you are disrespecting them by being spoon-fed misinformation. All you have to do is research, the avg american doesnt give a damn enough to, and they know that. When someone is killed It MUST be investigated, yet this hasnt been done for united 93"

Would that be correct? Uniteed 93 wasnt mentioned in the 9/11 commission report was it?
Does anyone have a link to the full report so I can read it? or is it a "buy our lies" type thing?

im glad other people have

im glad other people have the same idea, go to see flight 93, pay the ticket price, and use it to pass out or even more slyly "leave" loose change dvds on the seats right before unsuspecting theatre goers come in. I think actually handing them out to people would cause an eviction from the property, but if they dont know "who" handed them out, the plan might be more effective.

I think people like Terrance

I think people like Terrance can be a good thing... gives us good practice blowing people like him out of the water.

Also I think Kimmel was very brave to even mention 9/11. I meen... I wonder whats happening to A.J. Hammer behind the scenes... I bet its not pretty.

When Professor Dr. Steven

When Professor Dr. Steven Jones garners so much publicity from trying to prove "controlled demolition", that makes it appear as though we do not already know...

...sure fooled Terrence (who obviously does not think for himself)!

IN GRAVITY WE TRUST
_______________________________________

Robbie I think thats a great

Robbie I think thats a great idea... unfortunately I think that after seeing flight 93 people are going to be less willing to look at the truth...

has anyone on here checked

has anyone on here checked out the IMDB.com message boards for United 93 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475276/board/threads/)and Charlie Sheen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000221/board/threads/).

i highly recommend doing so, the 9/11 truthers on these boards seem to be very bad at debating their points... John we need you on there! :-)

Unfortunately you have to register to be a msg board poster, but its worth it. A Crap load of people come to these boards

Does anyone happen to know

Does anyone happen to know how many seats a typical theater has?

It could get pretty expensive for us to try to pass out free dvd's on all the chairs, I know I cant really spare a whole lot of money.
I was thinking maybe putting Flyers, done on my dell laser printer, the flyer would say something that would urge people to look for the truth or at least get a call to action for the government to answer SOMETHING.
I could provide a link on the paper to the streaming Google video of Loose Change 2v.
But the Im not sure how many would even look.

People dont care about

People dont care about anything anymore but Money, in my opinion.

So what about putting on my flyers something like?

"Take my money, please TAKE IT! if you can!"
"I willing to give someone $100 if they can answer a number of questions relating to the inconsistancy and implausibility of 9/11"
"why am I doing this? BECAUSE I CANT SLEEP AT NIGHT knowing that the "official" story might not be the truth, theres way to many friggin holes in it"

ha ha ha - after stallion4

ha ha ha - after stallion4 posted those links , it looks like Terrence has disappeared.

re Sheen on Kimmel last night: I thought it was handled perfectly. did anyone notice that they didn't mention the words "9/11" or "WTC"?

Hey Terrance- Where's

Hey Terrance- Where's Phillip? And, what do you have to say to stallion4? What about his post?

People stop getting side

People stop getting side tracked by Terrance, Listen to what people who really care have to say.

Help me out, provide suggestions, consider what you can do yourselfs, instead of argueing with some guy whos not going to listen on the internet from the comfort of your home.

Does anyone even hear what charlie sheen is saying? Its hard to be an Activist, most just want to get behind or applaud the activist.

Normally I'd say WRT

Normally I'd say WRT Terrence, DON'T FEED THE TROLL, but this is too irresistable, as this new article at Rense is pretty good. Title modified as a question to the troll, in the spirit of fun,

Attention Official 911 Fable Believer-
Are You A 'Nutcase Wacko?'

http://rense.com/general70/dwst.htm

"...sure fooled Terrence

"...sure fooled Terrence (who obviously does not think for himself)!" -911blimp

Hey lets set up an exclusive play pen for Terrence The Troll, and the disinfo provocateurs 911blimp and AManDaReckonWith, where they hash things out amongst themselves, and the real truthseekers are free to move forward. Just a thought.

2 members of Scholars for

2 members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth:

Michael Lovingier
Structural/Environmental Engineering

Ted Muga
Naval aviator, commercial pilot, structural engineering

I guess you guys didn't see

I guess you guys didn't see this...

Jack Beacon And Chip Berlet Debate 9/11 - Audio Inside
Jon Gold
====================
Jon, that audio is infuriating, and not because of the shill argument being presented.

The guy arguing 9/11 Truth is AWFUL. He's horribly unknowledgable on OKC, and eve regarding 9/11, he speaks very badly. Stammering sentence fragments, long pauses, inconclusive points... sometimes we're better off having no one talk than someone who sounds like he's pulling data out of his ass.

The 9/11 "truth seekers", in

The 9/11 "truth seekers", in an effort to show their human side, have agreed to their group portrait being published on my blog. From left to right they are:

ErobertG
Ace21
Sheik-yerbouti
commondreamer
Concerneduscitizen
Jon Gold

http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/

Where is DZ ?

Where is DZ ?

Stallion 4, I have to laugh

Stallion 4,

I have to laugh that you guys simply repeat long debunked stories...

Van Romero, Vice President for Research and Economic Development at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, a major authority on explosions' effects on buildings, has said, "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse." Romero has since retracted his belief, later stating, "Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail." ("Explosives Planted in Towers, New Mexico Tech Expert Says", Albuquerque Journal, September, 2001).

I was disappointed in the

I was disappointed in the Jimmy Kimmel broadcast.

True, Sheen has taken a bigger step than anyone, but last night he appeared to take a step back with his position. He said he "had some questions," about the official story. "Had some questions?" Are they answered now? Is the inquisition over?

I thought for a moment we had someone to rally around. A spokeman, a leader with some pull who could get the message out on a national level.

The effort to expose the truth has to continue to gain momentum if it will ever make a difference in our lives in the near future.

I was happy to hear him mention the two specifics: Building 7 and the 5 frames of still photos released from the Pentagon. That at least gives some viewers someplace to start if they do, in fact, research it themselves. But someone like Sheen could have blown the roof off this coverup by, instead of saying he had "questions" say he has some FACTS.

FOR EXAMPLE: THE MELTING POINT OF STEEL IS FAR ABOVE THE BURNING POINT OF THE JET FUEL.

I guess I was hoping for something a little more. Kimmel may have had some guts to address this issue on his show, but he started the conversation out by asking Sheen "Is this a theory of yours? ...."

You're still the man Mr Sheen. Thanks.

Now what in the world could

Now what in the world could have made someone like Van Romero change his initial conclusions about 9/11? Let's see what's happening with Van since his comments fell in line with the goverment's story.

Tech Receives $15 M for Anti-Terrorism Program

New Mexico Tech Vice President Romero Named a Top Lobbyist

VP Van Romero Named Chairman of Domestic Preparedness Consortium

Carrot and the stick. And the Perps of 9/11 have carrots of a size that you or I could imagine.

That would be "NEVER

That would be "NEVER imagine." Not enough coffee today.

"The 9/11 "truth seekers",

"The 9/11 "truth seekers", in an effort to show their human side, have agreed to their group portrait being published on my blog. From left to right they are:

ErobertG
Ace21
Sheik-yerbouti
commondreamer
Concerneduscitizen
Jon Gold "

You can't attack what I say, just me. Coward.

To you people, Charlie Sheen

To you people, Charlie Sheen is "the man" and structural engineers need to be ignored. Do you live in some sort of bizzarro world?

It is a good likeness of you

It is a good likeness of you tho - don't you think Jon?

For the record - I oppose virtually everything that comes out of your twisted, illogical piehole....

"For the record - I oppose

"For the record - I oppose virtually everything that comes out of your twisted, illogical piehole...."

For instance?

I go back and forth on the

I go back and forth on the 'banning trolls' idea. Sometimes they stretch and challenge you, and help you find the truth, or help tone what you think you know about the truth.

Right now, tho, here's a vote for banning.

Yeah Romero changed his

Yeah Romero changed his story to the fire theory only days after saying explosives did it. Funny how quick he changed his story without even examining the debris for explosives.

And it is a fact that he received a phat promotion shortly after changing his story.

Let's see what he says when he gets up on the witness stand.

Let him speak... I want

Let him speak... I want specifics.

Anybody hear the Jeopardy

Anybody hear the Jeopardy music playing?

Fetzer is kicking ass on

Fetzer is kicking ass on Tarpley's show right now. Just ripping the melting/weakening arguments to shreds.

You would think that someone

You would think that someone who would make the accusation that I have a "twisted, illogical piehole...." would know why he thinks such a thing.

Terrence... do you even know

Terrence... do you even know why the date of 9/11/2001 is significant?

I was wrong. He's not a

I was wrong. He's not a coward. He's just an idiot.

So, here are Chip Berlet's

So, here are Chip Berlet's bullet points:

"The U.S. government has a proven history of black ops and aggressive, dishonest activities against it's own people.

There is a lot wrong with the official story, according to many sources.

Wasn't 9/11 the date of

Wasn't 9/11 the date of GWHBush's first "New World Order" speech?

Sorry, this code machine

Sorry, this code machine mangled my post. I'll try again:
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So, here are Chip Berlet's bullet points:

"The U.S. government has a proven history of black ops and aggressive, dishonest activities against it's own people.

There is a lot wrong with the official story, according to many sources.

Even so, I still buy the official story, lock stock and barrel."

i find it hilarious terrence

i find it hilarious terrence keeps going after the buildings exploding aspect. He has not touched on any other anomolies.

not surprising though, its obvious this guy is experience extreme cognitive dissonance. On the other hand maybe subconciously he wants to learn the truth, otherwise why would he be here being out argued 10 to 1? All he has done so far is try to deflate singular key statements or accusations of explosives, he has not attempted one iota to deflate the argument that 9/11 was an inside job by a criminal element in our government.

To me it shows that this might be a good sign, if he cant face any of the other issues, what does that say?

Hey Terrence, and ALL

Hey Terrence, and ALL skeptics of 9/11 Truth: You saying you don't have any questions about 9/11 or that we've been told the full truth? Forget the towers. I myself don't even talk abou tthatstuff. I focus in on the total foreknowlege, links between the CIA and al qaeda, and many other more unrefutable things(Like Mineta's testimony about Cheney)

But I guess you probably think Bush told the truth about Iraq too, right?

So...what's Alex Jones big surprise?

Don't worry too much about

Don't worry too much about Terrence, even though Fema felt the official story had only a small probability of occurring and Fire Engineering Magazine called the investigation a "Half Baked Farce", we're all nuts for asking these questions.

Is that how we honor the dead? By ignoring these statements:

"The captain of emergency medical services said "somewhere around the middle of the world trade center there was this orange and red flash coming out ... initially it was just one flash then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode ... and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides ... as far as could see these popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger going both up and down and then all around the building" (page 15 -- pdf file; Google's web version is here)"

"Similiarly, the Assistant Fire Commissioner stated "I thought . . . before . . . No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. . . . I . . . saw a flash flash flash . . . [at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they . . . blow up a building. . . ?” . In the same statement, the Assistant Commissioner recounts how a lieutenant firefighter he spoke with independently verified the flashes."

Find it all here:
http://sfgate.com/gate/pictures/2005/09/10/ga_karin_deshore.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/Grego...

9/11 Truth will set us free, spread the word everyone!!!

Yeah SBG... what's Alex's

Yeah SBG... what's Alex's "Big Surprise this weekend"?

Did you notice that Charlie

Did you notice that Charlie Sheen stuck to WTC7 and the Pentagon crash and ask people to do their own research.

Alright well I guess my

Alright well I guess my "What are we going to do on April 28th is offtopic" from the Terrance Bashing My fault, I thought we wanted to push for a movement toward the truth, not convince one idiot that there are unanswered/unreleased aspects about 9/11.

Let me know when 9/11 Blogger makes an official Thread on this issue (by then it will be too late to organize).

Have you guys ever

Have you guys ever considered, that if we all ignore him, he might get tired and stop posting here?

But I Suppose its good practice to argue with him. So each to their own. Id just like to see a topic on the upcoming movie United 93. Once this movie comes out I Gaurentee you people will think thats EXACTLY how it went down without question.

Hey Jon, don't know, just

Hey Jon, don't know, just repeating what I had heard.

For Truth, you are exactly right, this is not the forum for debate like this. www.yourbbsucks.com is the official forum of 911blogger and the debate should be moved there.

However, Terrence can't be bothered to sign up there, Jon has already offered, so just ignore him maybe he'll go away. (unlikely though)

Hey Terrence, when is quitting time today?

Regarding Flight 93, I don't know if there are any massive protests going down anywhere, haven't heard much.

I agree with the poster who

I agree with the poster who said that opposing views on 911 are fine if they make us stretch and find more facts. However, here's an idea for determining who a troll is and when to ban them:

3 consecutive posts with no viable contribution to the discussion: you're out!

I'd say Terrence has struck out.

"However, Terrence can't be

"However, Terrence can't be bothered to sign up there"

Since little jon prattles on about banning those of us who don't sing from your hymn book - why bother? Besides, if he had any courage - he'd debate me on my blog where I'd tear him a new one on a daily basis...

Jon offered to debate it

Jon offered to debate it with you on his forum and you chose not too:

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9509&highlight=terrence

I guess we know doesn't have any courage.

Terrence, Jon won't be to

Terrence, Jon won't be to your blog because no regular posters exist on your blog. People barely read it, much less comment on it. It has no significance to anything.

I thought about buying dis.info domain today, unfortunately it's already taken. I wouldn't want to clutter up this blog with that type of thing, but people should know your history of posing as several different people and admitting you're working for the CSS/NSA.

I can't believe though, that at the top of this thread, and in a post earlier this week, I posted your history of trolling across hundreds of boards and yet people still waste their time arguing with you. They're playing into your little game of distraction. WTF. Don't reply to Terrence or S. King or any of his other pseudonyms other than to say we shouldn't be replying to them.

robbie, you made a good

robbie, you made a good point earlier about how NIST and other reports started with a conclusion and focused their research on gathering facts that fit that conclusion.

As has been shown by several 9/11 Truth sites, you can grab a similar set of facts to prove controlled demolition, if you want that to be your conclusion.

What I would like to see is a report that introduces each of the theories. Then in the body of the report, show all the facts and how they apply to each of the theories. Then make a decision based on analysis of how well the facts fit each of the theories. Then come to a conclusion about what the best evidence shows happened.

This is basic science. It's called the scientific method. Nobody can call the official reports science without them even following the scientific method.

"I can't believe though,

"I can't believe though, that at the top of this thread, and in a post earlier this week, I posted your history of trolling across hundreds of boards"

Hundreds? How about two. Your paranoia clearly reaches past 9/11 fantasies into the realm of alien anal probes and Bigfoot research....

ok Sky King whatever you

ok Sky King whatever you say.

Terrence...I have never seen

Terrence...I have never seen someone getting their arse kicked on their own blog so completely.

Well done Stallion4!

Bravo!

ha, I had a feeling Trixy

ha, I had a feeling Trixy Wixy was your new pseudonym once I started exposing you as Sky King.

You're pretty damn obvious, idiot.

My opinion is dont ban the

My opinion is dont ban the trolls and slapdicks. I would like to see a more militant stance by sincere Truthers to just ignore them. If someone is sincerely debateing issues in a intelligent manner I say give them the time of day even if you dont agree with them. If someone doesnt agree there are MAJOR PROBLEMS with the official conspiracy theory either they havent done there homework, worship satan, are paid crunchnuts, Nazis, or some other category under SLAPDICK. SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE 911 TRUTH MOVEMENT not talking about controlled demolition is WEAK. Sheen did fine by the way. Best beleive our brother has major fans who are now going to look into this issue. Keep fighting the good fight!

That's so wrong anon. It's a

That's so wrong anon.

It's a daft name but I have been posting here infrequently over the last 2 months.

It was me that pointed out the CNN camera zoom being exremely lucky on 911.

:)

Im looking forward to seeing

Im looking forward to seeing you dudes in Chicago!

Im looking forward to seeing

Im looking forward to seeing you letter agency meatheads also. F**K You!

k, oops. Drew too wide a

k, oops. Drew too wide a net.

you showed up at the wrong time in the moussaoui thread and this one, sorry.

No problem :) Have a great

No problem :)

Have a great day!

I am.....still laughing at Terrence's humiliation on his blog.

cheers from the UK

Now I see what you were

Now I see what you were saying about Terrence getting his ass kicked.

I found some more interesting stuff on the shill though:

http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/author/authorprofile.asp?se...
http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/author/AuthorThreads.asp?ng...

2586 USENET posts in about 6 months
452 USENET posts on the PM article, twice as many as there were posters!

Add that to all the other research I've been doing on Sky King, and we have a real paid shill on our hands. I'm keeping my eye out for that putz.

"Terrence...I have never

"Terrence...I have never seen someone getting their arse kicked on their own blog so completly"

You must be looking at someone elses blog my pointy-headed little friend...

Notice if you pull the c out

Notice if you pull the c out of TerrenCe its pronounced Tyranny. I got you now numbnuts! (ha-ha). Im just kidding (maybe). Never met anyone named Terrence.

Terrence: where is phillip?

Terrence:

where is phillip?

german engineers help the

"Add that to all the other

"Add that to all the other research I've been doing on Sky King, and we have a real paid shill on our hands. "

Hey, those links don't work...

Yes, Sitting-Bull. We must

Yes, Sitting-Bull. We must value help from anyone who is willing to give it to us. That German site is very good.

sbg: "Hey, those links don't

sbg: "Hey, those links don't work..."

Try these ones:
http://tinyurl.com/mbnme
http://tinyurl.com/gyr5b

Nice going Anonymous. You

Nice going Anonymous. You made it sound on King's blog like all the comments on 911Blogger are from dis-info agents.

who cares what SkyKing aka

who cares what SkyKing aka Terrence aka Conspiracy Smasher aka anonymous says on his blog?

Who cares what quotes he uses from 911blogger.com that he posted himself while he was pretending to be someone else.

Check out what Charlie Sheen

Check out what Charlie Sheen mentioned: Building 7.

The most striking problem with the official story is Building 7, which was suppressed by the mainstream media.

Learn about Building 7 at

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/b7/introduction.html

It only takes a few minutes and you will find it fascinating, and clearly difficult for the government to explain.