Daily Open Thread

Another day, another open thread.

must be a slow day.. ;)

must be a slow day.. ;)

Increasing Anti-War,

so when are we gonna get

so when are we gonna get more msm coverage?

yourbbsucks...sucks not

yourbbsucks...sucks

not enough readers

USE CRAIGSLIST TO SPREAD THE TRUTH, FREE, NO REGISTRATION, AND CRAIG IS COOL

I like yourbbsucks, and I've

I like yourbbsucks, and I've never visited craigslist so poo on them.

Yourbbsucks has a very

Yourbbsucks has a very impressive and diverse clip collection.

direct mp3 download

direct mp3 download http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/chronic_dislocator_on_patrick_henry.mp3

Chronic Dislocator shares the effect of listening to a speech by Dr. James Fetzer http://www.youtube.com/w/?v=x-RjohsWGO4 re: 9/11 had on him by reading a quote by Patrick Henry. "We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth .." From an Interview by DJ Bijou http://www.myspace.com/dj_bijou w/ Jesus Nieto, recorded on 4/20/06 from pirate 96.9 FM
Resist! Investigate the crimes of 911 yourself.
1 min. 46 sec.

The full quote by Henry can be found here: http://www.law.ou.edu/ushistory/henry.shtml
Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the numbers of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.

audio: MP3 at 835.6 kibibytes

http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/04/9425.php

Actually..... Craigslist is

Actually.....

Craigslist is a PHENOMENAL idea.

www.craigslist.org

This website is VERY VERY well known as a free classified for just about anything. It started here in SF, but has taken over in all parts of the country.

http://radio.indymedia.org/ne

http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/04/9426.php

DJ Bijou interviews Jesus Nieto of San Diego State Univ. and "Chronic Dislocator" about the incongruities, unanswered questions, and implausible government-promoted theories about September 11, 2001. Nieto is hosting the "9/11 Mysteries" live event for free at SDSU April 25. http://www.sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2006/04/115275.shtml DJ Bijou, of Free Radio San Diego 96.9 FM, also plays music by eminem, dead prez, Gil Scott Heron, Seize the Day, and the great clip of Cynthia Mckinney Grill Meyers and Rumsfeld recently in the House or Reprehensibles about Dyncorp child trafficking, Trillion$ missing from Pentagon, and Terror Drills "enhancing?" gov't's response to 9/11..
Listen live to DJ Bijou http://myspace.com/dj_bijou on http://pirate969.org Thursday nights from 7-9PM

2 hours, 5 minutes
audio: MP3 at 57.4 mebibytes

We hold these truths to be

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

- The Declaration Of Independence
Birth Certificate of the United States of America
4th of July, 1776
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What might it take for 'mankind' to now evince such a design? Recognition of the fact that temperatures hotter than the sun were involved in the disposal of the WTC skyscrapers? Recognition of the fact that the U.S. government amateurishly framed Osama bin Laden for 9/11? Recognition of the fact that the U.S. government lied to us about what hit the Pentagon? What? http://911blimp.net/vid_Naudet.shtml ? http://911blimp.net/vid_WTC1explosions.shtml ? http://911blimp.net/aud_BushImplicatesBush.shtml ? http://911blimp.net/prf_FreeFallPhysics.shtml ?
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There's a campaign to

There's a campaign to educate people who fly the American Flag on the truth of 9/11 and convince them to invert the flag, to fly it upside down. Veterans for 9/11 truth has an upside down flag on their site http://www.v911t.org along with the legal documentation of what that symbol means: a situation of dire distress. It is not disrespectful to the flag, the country or the armed services and is an appropriate signal for our current reality. I have received favorable, encouraging responses from a university and some firemen, though they haven't taken the action, yet. Like a lot of things, it will probably be slow to start and folks will feel more comfortable taking action once they know that others have gone before them, so I'm suggesting that photos be taken of the upside down flags to be posted on the web (haven't found a place for that yet). Institutions and individuals who take this significant symbolic step should expect outrage, misunderstanding, and questions, to which they should respond calmly and courteously with 9/11 truth and an explaination of the symbol. I think that this tactic has tremendous potential to accelerate the truth movement in a big way. I am suggesting that the flags remain in that orientation until three conditions are met: 1) The firing squads run out of targets 2) We have honest elections that are verified by multiple international parties 3) We have substantial media reform (The 9/11 coverup could not have been so successful without media complicity. The airwaves belonged to the people but were given away to corporations, etc.) I'm also urging folks to support and distribute the petition on
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org and the site http://www.oprah911.com Once people become aware, they want to do something. These are three easy and productive things to do.
All the best,
Mike

Yourbbsucks is a pretty damn

Yourbbsucks is a pretty damn good resource/site, but its layout is hopelessly ugly.no offense.

Yea... the YBBS sucks ass.

Yea... the YBBS sucks ass. Don't take into account the 1000's of hours that have been put into it. Don't take into account that it has some of the BEST information available on the web, BAR NONE. Don't take into account that the person who started that site has been involved in the 9/11 Truth Movement for over three years, and has been working tirelessly to get out the truth...

You're right though, the YBBS sucks ass.

The FDA Says Marijuana Has No Medicinal Value Whatsoever

fuck the FDA.

fuck the FDA.

To protect marijuana users,

To protect marijuana users, I suggest putting them in large cage malls so that they can become sex slaves and perhaps contract aids.

When the truck with black smoke passes me on the street and forces me to inhale its carinogens, i would like to take a rocket launcher out and dispose of the belching beast of respiratory destruction.

beer is safe

jon, it is so much easier to

jon,
it is so much easier to criticise the work of someone than to contribute to it, or make something better, don't take those comments above too personally..

Chris,
very insightful comment there.

what? fuck the fda? or Jons

what? fuck the fda? or Jons website is ugly?and beer is safe? compared to what? not marijuana......

chris, oh no, i missed the

chris,

oh no, i missed the ugly comment above.. i don't agree with that, it looks like a lot of other boards i've seen.

i was being sarcastic in response to your 3 word comment on the FDA ;)

for anyone who hasnt already

for anyone who hasnt already been informed about this(the media whitewash on this one was legendary):

The Franklin Coverup Scandal

The Child sex ring that reached Bush/Reagan Whitehouse

This was the biggest scandal in the history of the U.S.A history. The story received some newspaper coverage but there was a TV News Media blackout on the subject. For this reason, most Americans have never heard of it.

Former republican Senator John Decamp was involved in the production a documentary called "Conspiracy of Silence" it was to air May 3, 1994 on the Discovery Channel. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired.

Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved. You can purchase a VHS copy at this link. Or you can view an online copy at this page. Franklin Cover up video page

Boy prostitutes 15 years old (and younger) were taking midnight tours of the Whitehouse. There are 19 more Washington Times articles in full text about this case available here at this link.
Newspaper scans or text are not for commercial use. Solely to be used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion.

The Washington Times, Pg. A3 July 26, 1989 Headline: Secret Service furloughs third White House guard

http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

seriously though,fuck em.

seriously though,fuck em.

alcohol is not easy to

alcohol is not easy to make.(big profits) marijauna is easy to grow.(small profits)one is illegal, one is not. wonder why?

http://www.politicalgraveyard

interesting site.

interesting site.

Chris... do you have a site

Chris... do you have a site I can critique?

yourbbsucks...sucks not

yourbbsucks...sucks
not enough readers
USE CRAIGSLIST TO SPREAD THE TRUTH, FREE, NO REGISTRATION, AND CRAIG IS COOL
911 dude | 04.21.06 - 1:52 am | #

How about using yourbbsucks + Craigslist?

And Jon is very cool!

your comparing apples to

your comparing apples to oranges if your comparing ybbs and craigslist..

craigslist gets millions of individual visitors a day, it is more popular than any single blog or forum you could mention..

yourbbsucks is a message board community, not a craigs list competitor..

I've never even seen

I've never even seen "Craig's List". I have no idea what it is.

How much $$$ did Craig's

How much $$$ did Craig's List have to get started? To advertise? It sounds like Craig's List is more "mainstream". The YBBS is more "underground".

Almost 100,000 Intel

Jon's list (YBBS) is

Jon's list (YBBS) is dedicated to 9/11 truth. Craig's list is a bunch of classified ads to sell & trade merchandise.

http://www.craigslist.org/ it

http://www.craigslist.org/

its like a community site.. its actually what microsoft and google are eyeing to buy, or steal ideas from for their upcoming community/trade portals..

i would suggest posting stuff on craigslist, we have gotten a number of hits in the past when random people have posted about 9/11 and had our site as a link..

and it is like apples to oranges, craigslist does everything from classifides to job postings, etc. it would be like comparing a single small local store to a massive 10 story mall with thousands of different shops..

craigslist.org like a free

craigslist.org

like a free newspaper-online bulliten board

plus free job ads,dating, for sale etc

it is huge, and it is replacing traditional classifieds

I NEED HELP COMBATTING DISINFO POSTERS

CRAIGSLIST POLITICS AND RANT AND RAVE SECTIONS CHECK IT OUT

IT IS PROBABLY IN YOUR CITY

That's Funny, The FDA Says

That's Funny, The FDA Says Marijuana Has No Medicinal Value Whatsoever. But They'll tell you that drinking a glass of wine a day is healthy.

911wasInsideJob's Blog

I MEANT YOURBBSSUCKS IS NOT

I MEANT YOURBBSSUCKS IS NOT AS POPULAR AS CRAIGSLIST

CRAIGSLIST IS EASIER TO USE

YOU CAN BE YOUR OWN ASSOCIATED PRESS

AND REACH PEOPLE GLOBALLY

THATS HOW IVE BEEN SPREADING THE TRUTH

AND FROM THE DEATH THREAT I RECIEVED ON THANKSGIVING NIGHT 2004 VIA TELEPHONE, I WOULD SAY I AM CORRECT-

CRAIGSLIST WILL SOON BE THE NATIONS NEWSPAPER

Calm down dude. That was me

Calm down dude. That was me on Thanksgiving, I'm sorry I will not do it again.

Chris--"alcohol is not easy

Chris--"alcohol is not easy to make.(big profits) marijauna is easy to grow.(small profits)one is illegal, one is not. wonder why?"

Michael Ruppert might say that illegal drugs are illegal so the CIA/Gov't can continue their huge profits on them, via their monopoly over the drug war. (Also good for increasing prison industry with fresh pot users/growers/dealers.)

Regarding the Congressional

Regarding the Congressional responses to the Raw story's questions on 9/11 and the commission, I was reinforced in my dismay over our government. Comments like "move forward", "balanced" and "there were parts both sides weren't satisified with" make me sick. It's integral that we got that one right, and as far as recommondations, the commission was thin, and the only true reccomendations not taken up were more money for first responder communication systems and port security. What these Congressional members fail to realize or skated from was that the 9/11 commission was not charged with finding the truth about the event, or brining anybody in to account for it. It was simply put in place to whitewash and make minor reccomendations in an attempt to placate the victim's families and cover for corrupt and useless beuaracracies like the CIA. They didn't fire anybody or blame anybody, they just suggested another layer of complication. Discussion of the events of 9/11 was just a backdrop for the commission. That commission was modeled just like the computer models used by the NIST and FEMA to explain the collapse of the WTC. That commision relied upon testimony of officials not sworn in in some cases, as well as the investigative efforts of the FBI, NSA, etc. No bribe taking member of Congress will truly get into the details of the folly that commission represents. To do so is to interrupt their trade practices of greed, corruption and manipulation. I bet you anything we in the 9/11 truth movement know more about that Commission and report than people in Congress do. Their topical and glibb dismisial of such a complex event belies the fact that they are nothing more than attention seekering head nodders in the great scheme of things. I wish them all luck in keeping their head in the sand.

- Jordan B.

Monitoring of Americans'

Monitoring of Americans' communications

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=33847

"Venezuela will become a

"Venezuela will become a “threat” to the United States, not because it really is a threat, but because the United States and Israel will provide “evidence” that it is a threat and a haven for terrorists, with the help of the mainstream media."....

9-11 was an inside job, a military “false-flag black-operation,” and a “psychological operation,” carried out by an elite group of operatives within the CIA and the Mossad of Israel. http://www.reopen911.org

All of these planned events were documented in the neo-con manifesto, “The Project for the New American Century,” back in 1998 in which members of an elite powerful group of businessmen planned to dominate the world and control all the oil and money for the next 100 years. (Search PNAC on the Internet and read for yourself, or go to http://www.informationclearinghouse.info

http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/soldo04182006/

Homeland Security grants

Homeland Security grants spent on clowns and gyms

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060420-110852-8296r.htm

"Yourbbsucks is a pretty

"Yourbbsucks is a pretty damn good resource/site, but its layout is hopelessly ugly."

No, thats just the site owner...

Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaa

Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaa

Knowing that 9/11 was a US

Knowing that 9/11 was a US military shock and awe
program and not a terrorist event, the following news
reports still give me concern about our safety and who
the real terrorists may be. Who are Tamir D. Sason,
and Daniel Levy and how do they relate to post 9/11
events?

http://www.news4jax.com/news4georgia/3344771/detail.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20040609201359/http://www.wcyb.tv/newsread.as...

You may be asking yourself who Samuel Dahan is. He is
the son of the Likud Party spokesperson Shmuel Dahan.
Another important bit of information left out of this
news report is that they were busted near the Nuclear
Fuel Services plant in Erwin,Tennessee.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020316223600/www.nuclearfuelservices.com/Sp...

"Yourbbsucks is a pretty

"Yourbbsucks is a pretty damn good resource/site, but its layout is hopelessly ugly."

No, thats just the site owner..."

BURN!!!

I'd hate to be the site owner.

Knowing that martial law is

Knowing that martial law is one step away from another
synthetic terror event and that 9/11 was a
sophisticated US military shock and awe program, the
following Army regulation shows clear evidence of
intent to enslave us.

This regulation provides Army policy and guidance for
establishing civilian inmate labor programs and
civilian prison camps on Army installations.

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

Jon here's a nice

Jon here's a nice layout:

http://www.eatpoo.com/phpBB2/index.php

:+:

Like 9/11/, 6/6/6 is also a

Like 9/11/, 6/6/6 is also a Tuesday

A close look at Royal Sons

A close look at Royal Sons reveals evidence indicating that the firm is part of a cluster of related air charter firms being used as dummy front companies to provide “cover” for CIA flights.

http://www.madcowprod.com/

The most surreal detail this

The most surreal detail this side of the Salvador Dali museum is that the cocaine was packed into 128 identical black suitcases marked "Private"

Did we have this one so

Did we have this one so far?

http://www.teamliberty.net/id243.html

Jon here's a nice

Just a note, that Smirking

Just a note, that Smirking Chimp locked a thread on Loose Change recently that was heating up. Many people took their time to type out quotes from books on the subject, and provide information to disseminate on this site.

Suddenly, the owner of the blog "smirky chimp" as his i.d. goes, decided on a whim that he had had enough of the thread and locked it.

I find owner of Smirking Chimp to be offensive to First Amendment Rights. He continually requests donations for his blog that is really a series of links to articles, comments and forum. His site has no focus and dwells on things without offering any solutions, such that this blog offers.

At one time, there was a paid banner ad on Smirking Chimp for 9/11 Truth movement, that no longer exists. Jeff Taidich accepted money for the ad, yet won't allow any discussion of 9/11 on his site. He's one sick, fascist dude to prevent people from discussing the issue he advertizied on his site!

I'd like to request complaints about his locking the 911 Loose Change to:

smirker@smirkingchimp.com.

If you'd like to send him a 1 cent donation, as I do with a note of complaint to frustrate this money hungry bastard, you can also send it to him through PayPal at that e-mail address.

Appologies if this has been

Appologies if this has been posted elsewhere already (had a quick glimpse but couldn't see it).

http://www.codyenterprise.com/

The article about Russell

The article about Russell Pickering is great. The Tokyo-based article was not: it actually recommended In Plane Site.

"Smirking Chimp"

Hmmhh, it's not worth it, despairing over the fact that certain leftwing sites don't allow discussion about 9/11... Try to reach moderate rightwing sites instead, every one of those is worth ten lefty sites in terms of credibility, given the political situation.

*****

Mr. Gold, you're too sensitive... Hopefully you won't overreact to this suggestion: how about posting (also) direct links to the original sources you inform us about on this site, instead of linking to a discussion thread on your own site? I know ybbs is the 'official' forum of 911blogger, but the detour is annoying.

Rolling Stone Magazine /

Rolling Stone Magazine / SEAN WILENTZ:
"George W. Bush's presidency appears headed for colossal historical disgrace. Barring a cataclysmic event on the order of the terrorist attacks of September 11th, after which the public might rally around the White House once again, there seems to be little the administration can do to avoid being ranked on the lowest tier of U.S. presidents."

Oh don't worry, I'm sure the neocons are working on something at this very moment. :-(

"And that may be the best-case scenario."

wtf!!!! for whom??

Ms Rice is doing the right

Ms Rice is doing the right thing at least Bush isnt racist by putting a black person in charge RIP Mr King.
www.MikesLotteryBlog.com
www.MikesAmericanBlog.com

"Mr. Gold, you're too

"Mr. Gold, you're too sensitive... Hopefully you won't overreact to this suggestion: how about posting (also) direct links to the original sources you inform us about on this site, instead of linking to a discussion thread on your own site? I know ybbs is the 'official' forum of 911blogger, but the detour is annoying."

All of the original source links are in the thread.

http://blogs.washingtonpost.c

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2006/04/im_an_idiot.html

"The only terrorist attacks on 9/11 were those perpetrated by the United States government and the United States military."

The 9/11 truth movement, or whatever it’s called, seems to be gaining strength and believers. Putting aside for a moment whether they are right or wrong – they’re wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong-headed – the entire line of thinking seems to vilify the Bush administration while letting government failure off the hook. This to me is fundamentally disempowering. Either we can make our government accountable or not."

The Neocons are planning on

The Neocons are planning on striking Iran. The Armed forces who will have to carry out this madness are fighting back by leaking information.

I would bet on the established beaurocracy over the handful of nutty professors. This time, I think it works in our favor.

Putting Condi Liar Rice and

Putting Condi Liar Rice and Colin Oscopy Powell in those positions was Carl Rove's way of putting up a race force field.

Condi is an ex oil exec and Colin is a company guy who earned his ticked running interference for the Milai Massacre in Vietnam.

There is no policy in this whitehouse. It is all media relations. They are creating a narrative, demonizing their enemies. After all, if the Republicans were honest and said, "vote for the rich people", that wouldn't go very far.

"All of the original source

"All of the original source links are in the thread."

yesyes I know, but the suggestion was specifically to eliminate the detour via your site

"'the entire line of thinking seems to vilify the Bush administration while letting government failure off the hook. This to me is fundamentally disempowering. Either we can make our government accountable or not.'"

This guy is on crack, the whole point is holding government accountable, in the specific case as well as in the abstract. Or at least I hope and trust that opportunistic Bush-haters do not form a sizeable segment of 9/11 truthers.

http://www.civic.moveon.org/s

So, when will this whole

So, when will this whole mess finally blow up? I mean; just about everybody knows by now that the official fable does not hold any water whatsoever. This can not go on indefinitely. It won´t be the end of the world when a bunch of politicians, media whores, intelligence and military types and other traitors are executed so what's the holdup?

Regards,

BIIAS

New 9/11

the internet is in

the internet is in danger

http://www.savetheinternet.com/

"Jon's list (YBBS) is

"Jon's list (YBBS) is dedicated to 9/11 truth."

Then why does it and Jon deny the truth?

Come clean, "anonymous." Why

Come clean, "anonymous." Why do you troll here? Are you someone who helped perpetrate 9/11, or are you a prostitute paid to obstruct 9/11 truth?

I have MANY "friends" on the

I have MANY "friends" on the internet...

Able, are you hear to

Able, are you hear to discuss & develop 9/11 truth, or to pester Mr. Gold?

here here

here here

The answer is, they're still

The answer is, they're still in power, they can decide all of our fates and change the workd within 1 minute time.

Once again: "It won´t be

Once again:

"It won´t be the end of the world when a bunch of politicians, media whores, intelligence and military types and other traitors are executed so what's the holdup?"

The answer is, they are still in power, and can decide all of our fates in the blink of an eye.

"Able, are you hear to

"Able, are you hear to discuss & develop 9/11 truth, or to pester Mr. Gold?"

My name is Jon. ;)