Dr Hawkins Tightens Mr. Ternett's Loose Screw

Check out the newspaper clipping of a Loose Change hit piece at the following link, as well as the entire response:

http://www.stoplying.ca/articles/april06/screw042106.htm

Lets start with your first sentence. "conspiracy theories.................from the far left and peace movement". As if to imply only people who vote for the NDP, and are against nuclear weapons could promote something crazy like a conspiracy, let alone promote such a thing as a theory. I was wondering Mr. Ternette, did you ever wonder if there was ever any conspiracy in the history of mankind?

Perhaps The Nazis burning of the parliament building, or the Romans use of terrorism two thousand years ago, or imagine those "dangerous " Russians during the cold war, they never conspired to do anything, did they? In fact when you look at history, conspiracy is the norm, in fact what else would it be? Like the official story of September 11, 2001 is a conspiracy!

Dr. Hawkin's efforts are

Dr. Hawkin's efforts are most appreciated, however I suspect it contains far too many syllables for "reviewer" Mr. Turnette, who cannot even seem to remember by the middle of the article what he is supposedly writing about.

The official story is a lie.

"I simply do not want to

"I simply do not want to believe that americans can do this to americans."

What a jerk. Single dimensional thinking, truth and history denial combined with the make believe of a heal world. Screwed from reality.

This article clearly

This article clearly indicates that Loose Change is being used as a credibilty weapon against the 911 truth movement.

Just wait and see. The continued foolish support of this movie will haunt the movement.

As most of you know I always

As most of you know I always refer to the 9/11 report as "Comic Book Stuff". Well someone has been listening. Check this out...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=EJAZSID4OMXIHQFIQMFCFFOAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2006/04/19/wcomic19.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/19/ixworld.html

It seems they are cutting their own throats.

Charlie Sheen Divorce

Charlie Sheen Divorce Bombshell drops on Drudge Report:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0421061sheen1.html

Here's Neil Young on

Here's Neil Young on Showbiz;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7utryGZ25dg

“This talk about a 9/11 mentality. No one, George Bush or anyone else, owns the 9/11 mentality. It belongs to the United States of America. It belongs to everyone who was sitting there with their family, watching those buildings get hit by those jets. It belongs to George Bush and his family, it belongs to John Kerry and his family, it belongs to me and my family, my American family. I have a post 9/11 mentality. It’s just not the same as George Bush’s.”

*me bangs head against

*me bangs head against keyboard*

This just in.. All 911 conspiracy theorist are into kiddy porn and underage queer sex!

Americans kill Americans all

Americans kill Americans all of the time. It's called murder.

Discrimination Is A Bad Thing

They even have what's

They even have what's called, "Premeditative Murder" which by definition means...

Characterized by deliberate purpose, previous consideration, and some degree of planning: a premeditated crime.

And what do you have when two or more people partake in a "Premeditative Murder"?

A CONSPIRACY... oooooooooh...

And if you have a clue as to

And if you have a clue as to how that "premeditative murder" took place, you have what's called, a "Conspiracy Theory".

Excellent video of Air Force

Excellent video of Air Force One getting tagged with graffiti by a team that penetrates Andrews Air Force base, the home of the famed - "Sitting on the Deck" Marine and ANG squadrons of 9/11"

This is a major embarassment to the military and to the Reichland Security. The taggers penetrated multiple levels of security to tag the 747 on the engine, in large readable letters with the phrase "Still Free."

It's nice to know that the unreachable are still within our means of justice.

video at

http://www.stillfree.com/ or

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3020678281326785579&q=still+free...

Nice RP.

Nice RP.

"quite bluntly, if any of

"quite bluntly, if any of the survivors or the families of the dead had ever suspected American involvement... there would have been a huge outcry - and possibly a revolution"

There has been an outcry! Especially from the families and the survivors! Also from rescueworkers and government officials..

they are just being made fools of by people like Nick Ternette.

Maybe its time for a Loose Change 3 that explains that there are more people behind 911Truth than just a few students and people on the "internets".

" I would suggest that there would have been at least one involved person whose guilt blaah blaah blaah.."

The people who did this are in their own mind doing this for the greater good. Just like any other fascist before them. They believe they are above moral and ethics.

To quote Mr. Blair

"Tough choices with difficult decisions that you really wouldn't understand."

Two words for Mr. Ternette:

PROJECT NORTHWOOD!

it's throw water balloons,

it's throw water balloons, not through water balloons...

when is "our team" going to proofread and not just rely on Word's spellchecker?

New Scholars' press

New Scholars' press release:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20060421/bs_prweb/prweb375105_2

Notice the focus on psychology of breaking through to people about 9/11 truth?

"through" has been changed

"through" has been changed to "throw"

sorry to throw a wrench in your day.....hope that didn't make the article lose any credibility

If you ever get bored of

If you ever get bored of sniffing each others crotches, you can actually debate 9/11 over at my blog.

No one gets banned for not towing the party line (unlike here)

New US Strategy Anticipates

New US Strategy Anticipates China as a Threat:
http://washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20060419-110

Pentagon Engaged in Massive, Covert Military Buildup in Asia to 'Defeat' China:
http://washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20060420-121

Intel Chief Says Personnel Number 100,000:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060420/ap_on_go_ot/intelligence_chief_2

"New US Strategy Anticipates

"New US Strategy Anticipates China as a Threat"we don't like; and

Yeah, I read somewhere yesterday that one of the main reasons for 9/11 was to justify forward bases in the Middle East to try to prevent China from growing too powerful.

Add that to:

(1) Excuse to consolidate power at home;

(2) Excuse to bomb other people and expand the empire;

(3) Excuse to grab other people's oil

?

"This article clearly

"This article clearly indicates that Loose Change is being used as a credibilty weapon against the 911 truth movement.
Just wait and see. The continued foolish support of this movie will haunt the movement.
dena | 04.21.06 - 4:07 pm | #"

Oh, and which 9/11 videos do you prefer?

"If you ever get bored of

"If you ever get bored of sniffing each others crotches, you can actually debate 9/11 over at my blog.

No one gets banned for not towing the party line (unlike here)"

Norman Mineta's testimony was omitted from the 9/11 Report. Debate that.

Sibel Edmonds' testimony was omitted from the 9/11 Report. Debate that.

The wargames that were taking place that day were omitted from the 9/11 Report. Debate that.

Building 7 wasn't even mention in the 9/11 Report. Debate that.

The President refused to testify publicly, and under oath. Debate that.

The President appointed a member of his Administration to head the investigation into 9/11. Debate that.

The Secret Service should have rushed the President out of a classroom that could have been a target. Debate that.

Come clean, "Terrence." Why

Come clean, "Terrence." Why do you troll here? Are you someone who helped perpetrate 9/11, or are you a prostitute paid to obstruct 9/11 truth?

Now's the time for the next

Now's the time for the next celebrity to speak out about 9/11. Sheen has been bashed far more than he deserves.

It's also time for the next major documentary. Loose Change is too inclusive of different theories. We only need a small solid set of facts to prove a conspiracy.

@dena "This article clearly

@dena

"This article clearly indicates that Loose Change is being used as a credibilty weapon against the 911 truth movement.

Just wait and see. The continued foolish support of this movie will haunt the movement"

Could you be more specific?
What exactly is foolish about Loose Change and that it has gained visibility beyond any other media anywhere so far about 911Truth? #4 in google videosearch just the other day...
Man.. it´s just the beginning.

I dont see how Nick ternette used the material in Loose Change to back up this hitpiece on the 911Truth Movement. He just twisted a few issues .

I doubt he even saw it.

benthere... I know of one

benthere... I know of one movie that I think will wake everyone up. However, it's not due out until September 2006. For the anniversary. I'm not allowed to say anymore than that.

Hey Jon, good points...

Hey Jon, good points...

"Hey Jon, good

"Hey Jon, good points..."

I'm just wondering where the debate is.

I was sure he would at least

I was sure he would at least tackle WTC 7, but the fact of the matter is, it's NOT mentioned in the report. REGARDLESS of whether or not you think it was controlled demolition, a 47 story building collapsing in the middle of New York City, adding to the environmental disaster that took place that day is WORTHY of mention in the supposed "Official" account of 9/11.

That alone is non debatable.

Then you need to ask yourself WHY the National American media won't show the coverage of the building collapsing. Let alone Professor Jones' arguments. In a public setting. Open for debate with anyone who wishes to challenge his hypothesis.

Terrence, You do not get

Terrence,

You do not get banned for your opinion, you get banned for your hateful baiting comments and lack of any rational discussion.

If you would like to stay and at least be somewhat hospitable you are more than welcome. However, if you want to go back to talking about how noone that questions 9/11 has any friends, or were losers in highschool then yes, you will be banned.

Jon, that's good to hear

Jon, that's good to hear about that new movie coming up in Sept. 2006.

Lots of people keep complaining about what's wrong with the various 9/11 films. But really, most of them open the door for people to ask questions. I started with "In Plane Site" which I now regard as inferior to many others -- but, it's not useless. And, it's not even disinfo, even if I don't buy into the pod theory. Reason is simple -- there are SO many anomolies and unanswered questions about 9/11 that the majority cannot be adequately debunked by Bush supporters (and/or those in deep denial).

As David Ray Griffin says, it's a cumulative argument. From his interview with Garlic & Grass in 2004:

I stress in the book that mine is a cumulative argument. On the one hand, there's nothing original in the book in terms of facts, as all I have done is really pull together, synthesize, and organize the evidence that other researchers before me had pulled out from the various sources. The only thing that is distinctive about the book is that I did pull those together and organize them in such a way that you can see a cumulative argument — that is, any part of 9-11 that you look at shows that are serious questions and discrepancies between the official account and the apparent facts. So, whether you look at any of the four flights, whether you look at Bush's behavior that day, whether you look at the behavior of the FBI and other intelligence agencies prior to 9-11, or whether you look at those activities after 9-11 and the activities of the US Army and military in Afghanistan in the so-called 'Hunt for bin Laden' — all the way down the line, in every case, you find out that there are these serious discrepancies.

So it's when you start to see not just one or two problems, but a whole slew of problems — as I say, at least 40 major problems — then you start to see, it looks like there's a pattern here. And that's what's most disturbing.

So this brings me back to my premise that films like Loose Change and In Plane Site are pointing out quite a few anomalies and that even if one or two can be debunked or cannot be proven (say, the pod theory), that doesn't mean the rest of the problems and unanswered questions are invalid. You can't logically throw the baby out with the bathwater on 9/11 truth.

Hence, my research into 9/11 could have even theoretically been instigated by the no-planes theory -- although, granted, that's way far fetched and I'm sure I would have scoffed at it (and I still do), but if it opens the door to further investigation, then even it has a place.

People like Terrence may try like crazy to taint ALL of 9/11 research by citing some of the more controversial theories like holograms or no-planes, but I think he and people like him are underestimating the reasoning skills of most people, so his attempts are not working and are actually backfiring.

The biggest problem I think we've always faced in the 9/11 truth community is NOT in-fighting over which theory is best -- it's lack of media support, plain and simple.

It's not stopping the truth from coming out though -- but, it sure would move a lot faster if more high profile people like Charlie Sheen came out and spoke up -- then the media is forced to cover it (like CNN did).

My two cents. Just keep your eyes on the prize folks, and don't let Terrence and the Blue Meanies get under your skin. They're losing the war for the truth.

exactly CKit, its painfully

exactly CKit, its painfully obvious that former government insiders,professors and other credible figures cant get any coverage when it comes to questioning 9/11, what with our celeb obsessed society coupled with a news media with corporate interests first. it would be nice to see some more celebs come forward and force the medias hand a little bit.what ever happened to Alex Jones "big music star"? and Terrence's site is HILARIOUS.i havent laughed that hard in months.

CitizenKit... :)

CitizenKit...

:)

That smiley is clickable.

That smiley is clickable.

This post was made

This post was made above:

"Excellent video of Air Force One getting tagged with graffiti by a team that penetrates Andrews Air Force base, the home of the famed - "Sitting on the Deck" Marine and ANG squadrons of 9/11"

This is a major embarassment to the military and to the Reichland Security. The taggers penetrated multiple levels of security to tag the 747 on the engine, in large readable letters with the phrase "Still Free."

It's nice to know that the unreachable are still within our means of justice.

video at

http://www.stillfree.com/ or

http://video.google.com/videopla...ll+free&pl=true
-- -- -- -- --

BUT IT IS A HOAX....
-- -- --

Air Force One Subject of Internet Hoax
By TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer
5 hours ago

WASHINGTON - A startling Internet video that shows someone spraying graffiti on President Bush's jet looked so authentic that the Air Force wasn't immediately certain whether the plane had been targeted.

It was all a hoax. No one actually sprayed the slogan "Still Free" on the cowling of Air Force One.

The pranksters responsible for the grainy, two-minute Web video _ employed by a New York fashion company _ revealed Friday how they pulled it off: a rented 747 in California painted to look almost exactly like Air Force One.

"I wanted to do something culturally significant, wanted to create a real pop-culture moment," said Marc Ecko of Marc Ecko Enterprises. "It's this completely irreverent, over-the-top thing that could really never happen: this five-dollar can of paint putting a pimple on this Goliath."

The video shows hooded graffiti artists climbing barbed-wire fences and sneaking past guards with dogs to approach the jumbo jet. They spray-paint a slogan associated with free expression.

After the video began circulating on the Web on Tuesday, the Air Force checked to see whether the plane had been vandalized.

"We're looking at it, too," said Lt. Col. Bruce Alexander, a spokesman for the Air Mobility Command's 89th Airlift Wing, which operates Air Force One. "It looks very real."

Alexander later confirmed that no such spray-painting had occurred.

Ecko acknowledged Friday that his company had rented a 747 cargo jet at San Bernardino's airport and covertly painted one side to look like Air Force One. Employees signed secrecy agreements and worked inside a giant hangar until the night the video was made. Ecko declined to say how much the stunt cost.

"It's not cheap," he said. "You have to be rich."

___

On the Net:

Hoax video: http://www.stillfree.com

Air Force One: http://public.andrews.amc.af.mil

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press.

This article confuses me.

This article confuses me. How can anyone watch Loose Change in its entirety and walk away still believing everything the government says.

Could this author be involved with the coverup? Do they realize they cant keep this under wraps any more? Is this article an example of a new strategy to prevent people from seeking the truth?

There is a great Purex laundry detergent commercial that has nothing to do with 9/11, but epitimizes the argument of those who disagree with us.

Purex Commercial

" This article confuses me.

" This article confuses me. How can anyone watch Loose Change in its entirety and walk away still believing everything the government says."

Simple, we are capable of critical analysis, and you are not...

"Simple, we are capable of

"Simple, we are capable of critical analysis, and you are not..."

If you consider what you do "critical analysis", then that may very well be the funniest thing I have ever seen on the internet.

Here's a good site for you to get started.

http://www.dictionary.com

I believe Mr. Turniquette

I believe Mr. Turniquette has had the blood flow to his brain interfered with.

I just thought in the spirit of his poor attempt at levity with "Loose Screw", I'd continue the trend. : )

"Simple, we are capable of

"Simple, we are capable of critical analysis, and you are not..."

If you consider what you do "critical analysis", then that may very well be the funniest thing I have ever seen on the internet.

Here's a good site for you to get started.

http://www.dictionary.com

LOL.. OWNED

wow, people love talking

wow, people love talking shit about us, eh?
look we tried to cover as many angles as possible, but we did it in an objective way. we back up every single statement in our movie, and you're more than welcome to research them and come to our own conclusions. we encourage that.
and this statement right here...

"Maybe its time for a Loose Change 3 that explains that there are more people behind 911Truth than just a few students and people on the "internets"."

Maybe it's time for you to stop judging us because of our age, and stop bashing a movie that has changed over 3 million people's minds worldwide, simply through Google Video alone, regardless of its content.

I'd like to see what you, Reko and dena, have done for this movement. please feel free to show your "foolish support" to other people's work.

fuck the naysayers Dylan,

fuck the naysayers Dylan, ive shown my copy of Loose Change to my parents,grandparents,friends parents and some other older people, and i can assure you that your documentary is making a difference with more than just a young audience.they were all shocked. my grandfather voted for Bush in the last 2 elections. after seeing Loose Change 2 he said he was disgusted with himself for doing so.if i could make one suggestion it would be to do a little bit on the media, sort of like in Hufschmids movie where he explained who owned the media and why they have no interest in getting to the bottom of things.because the only thing they couldnt understand was how the media wasnt covering any of the discrepencies and nagging questions.