The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer Covers Loose Change Tonight

This should be interesting - loosechange911.com

Ok, this deserves it's own post.

CNN, The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer, 7 PM tonight.

I believe we have a 45 second "Internet Spotlight" segment, or something to that effect. Jackie the producer chatted with me for a half hour, and just called to ask permission to show clips of the movie.

So we shall see. I asked her straight up if it was a hit piece (meanwhile voicing my disdain for the USA Today article's "debunking" efforts), and she said, "Oh no, I'm a reporter, first and foremost."

We'll find out what that means tonight.

CNN at 7 PM EST Tonight.

NOTE: If you can record this show please do so and let us know!

Thanks a007 for the heads up!

holy shit. this should be

holy shit. this should be interesting.

Rush Limbaugh, The Fat Man,

Holding my breath.

Holding my breath.

Tell me about it.

Tell me about it.

yeah, but sadly that means

yeah, but sadly that means his fat ass isnt going to be going to jail.

he cut a deal for them to

he cut a deal for them to cease the doctor shopping investigation.

Will they show the collapse

Will they show the collapse of building 7?

road66, ha! man, you are

road66,

ha! man, you are hillarious! :)

Since Loose Change has been

Since Loose Change has been selected as the 9/11 Truth torchbearer, it's a good thing that it's solidly grounded in fact and does not contain, say, unnecessary speculation and severe errors. Right? Correct?

That's all the truth gets :)

That's all the truth gets :)

(btw, check out my status

(btw, check out my status report in the Flight 93 thread, below this post on the main page)

I gave up watching mind

I gave up watching mind control propaganda a long time ago.

the jealousy and hatred

the jealousy and hatred towards Loose Change never ceases to amaze me.from those inside and outside the 9/11 truth movement.

Very true Chris... Loose

Very true Chris...

Loose Change is just one of many great methods of getting people to question the official 9/11 Fable.

A fact that should be (and is) celebrated.

Good Luck to all at 911blogger.com and JG ;)

Isn't it obvious what

Isn't it obvious what they're doing? The media has picked a movie that has some questionable content, and are using it to discredit the movement.

yeah, but lately around here

yeah, but lately around here its only scorned and bashed. anybody else wanna name a single film that has changed more minds and opened more eyes about the disturbing questions of 9/11? didnt think so. petty motherfuckers.

But they're not addressing

But they're not addressing what's in it.

Loose Change 2 has some good

Loose Change 2 has some good stuff in it, it really does, but it also has a lot of theory.

It's like Dylan was saying, "I have the answer to what happened, and here it is."

A "theory" is a "theory" until it's either proven true, or false. If it's proven to be true, it then becomes "fact". Until then, it's still just a "theory".

How many times have you gotten into arguments with people who COMPLETELY ignore what you're trying to tell them. You could post link after link after link to reputable sites, and they just disregard it.

They focus on, and then attack our "theories", but they can't defend against our facts.

I applaud Dylan Avery for making the movie, and I congratulate him on his success.

http://www.rense.com/1.images

Yeah, a dislike for bogus

Yeah, a dislike for bogus information that clouds the truth sure is motivated by jealousy. And not, for instance caution that it can be used to discredit criticism of the official story.

Look here, the USA Today in the post below:
"Taub is promoting one of the latest presentations of revisionist theories on the 2001 attacks by al-Qaeda terrorists, a film that says, among other things, that the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile fired by the military as an excuse to go to war."

See?

"Loose Change is just one of many great methods of getting people to question the official 9/11 Fable."

Ah yes, the 'but it sucks people into the movement' excuse. Do we need people who believe that Fligh93 landed in Cleveland or do we need people who are aware of the facts?

Once the heat really gets turned on 9/11 truth, the big tent is gonna collapse in an ugly way.

If pointing out falsehoods

If pointing out falsehoods makes me a "petty motherfucker," so be it. Funny, I thought that was the purpose of the movement.

this from the guy who

this from the guy who endlessly bashes Cnythia Mckinney. i would say thats petty, yeah.

Able, we need people to be

Able, we need people to be exposed to the fact that there is so much wrong with the official story. Loose Change does that just fine.but jealousys a bitch, i know.

My induction into 9/11 Truth

My induction into 9/11 Truth was via, and get this, the bogus Pentagon Strike flash video. But now I'm better informed so all is well, right? Not quite: it's taken me over a year to get this far, and we do not have that much time to spend on new people, anymore, at this stage.

The regime is almost certainly getting desperate and we need a streamlined message, unburdened by misinformation.

the point is Able, you were

the point is Able, you were exposed to it. Loose Change has exposed many people like the pentagon strike video exposed you to 9/11 truth.

Loose Change 2 is a great

Loose Change 2 is a great video for questioning the "official story" & spreading 9/11 truth.

Able... Whatever man... Show

Able...

Whatever man... Show me where Loose Change claims to be any "BIBLE" or gospel of 9/11 facts...

It's not perfect and the guys know that... If you wanna know exactly what happened why don't you go and ask the perps...

I have seen almost every 9/11 video out there and none of them come close to loose change for impact and effectiveness.

Show me your film...

Thanks

"this from the guy who

"this from the guy who endlessly bashes Cnythia Mckinney"

wtf? Do you mean me? You've got issues...

"If pointing out falsehoods makes me a "petty motherfucker," so be it."

Good summary. :)

what about that new 911

what about that new 911 mysteries dvd? anyone have a chance to see it at san diego state a few days ago?

from the trailer, i recall

from the trailer, i recall them mentioning the 9/11 wargames, and some footage from 9/11 eyewitness (huge pre collapse explosions).

"this from the guy who

"this from the guy who endlessly bashes Cnythia Mckinney"

Wow are you related to Bill O'Reilly? Your ability to hyperbolize, dodge questions, and insult is astounding.

no able, carn endlessly

no able, carn endlessly bashes Mckinney.your not petty for pointing out falsehoods, your petty for bashing a movie that has done more for this movement than any single movie yet.and bash it you do.

I just remembered an old

I just remembered an old saying...

"Two dead batteries don't start a car".

The saying applied to two "recovering" drug addicts having a relationship. Within 12 step programs, they advice against it.

We say the Bush Administration & friends are behind 9/11, and the only reason we say that is because of the RIDICULOUS amount of facts point directly to them.

Not the RIDICULOUS amount of theories...

I guess the saying would be, "two dead theories don't make a fact".

yeah, i love Fox. get the

yeah, i love Fox. get the fuck outta here.

Personally, I haven't made

Personally, I haven't made up my mind about whether a 757 or something else hit the Pentagon. So it drives me crazy when people talk about a missile or whatever as if they're sure, when I don't think there's conclusive evidence one way or the other yet.

BUT, 2 people who I respect immensely -- David Ray Griffin and Fred Burks -- have told me that for newbies, its more important to get basic 9/11 facts out there, and that I am worrying about it too much (I'm totally oversimplifying what Griffin and Burks told me).

Hey, anyone watching the

Hey, anyone watching the Wolf man?

Yeah steamlined like a movie

Yeah steamlined like a movie coming out in September. Right Jon?

"the point is --" "Show me

"the point is --"
"Show me where Loose Change claims --"

You people are not really listening to the specific criticism. You just see it as "attacks" and conclude that the persons doing the criticizing are motivated by some personal grudge.

Obviously. And why do we

Obviously. And why do we all hate fox? Because they dodge issues, avoid questions, propogandize without evidence, and are not thorough in their research. Unless your reasons for hating them are different, I'm afraid you should hate yourself for the same reasons.

Able, are you implying that

Able, are you implying that Loose Change 2 is "misinformation", or that about 3% of it might be erroneous?

Looks like a couple of

Looks like a couple of shills are working overtime tonight!

But what the fuck do I know,

But what the fuck do I know, maybe the very next hit piece on Loose Change will make the damn burst.

no, i see your point Able,

no, i see your point Able, it just gets annoying seeing the same few people bash Loose Change over and over and not ever mention how much its done for getting the truth out.i dont agree with everything in Loose Change, but to call it disinfo or anything like that is a joke.

(heh, 'dam' not 'damn'. damn

(heh, 'dam' not 'damn'. damn dam?)

Able You people are not

Able

You people are not really listening to the specific criticism.

Well tell me what they are please...

Thanks

thanks carn, but somebody

thanks carn, but somebody who bashes the one politician with enough courage to ask Rummy and Myers about the weargames on 9/11 doesnt have much credibility with me.

Wolf just bashed us.

Wolf just bashed us.

well,that was short and

well,that was short and disrespectful/misleading. but it is exposure right?

wargames*

wargames*

Yes, it could have been

Yes, it could have been worse, Chris.

Chris, chill out alright?

Chris,

chill out alright? there is no need to call people motherfuckers, or cuss them out for disagreeing with LC2E, they aren't being dicks, they are just voicing their opinion. chill dood.

So what exactly did Wolf man

So what exactly did Wolf man say?

got it dz. basically, Wolf

got it dz. basically, Wolf came out of the box with the "conspiracy theorist" talk and took on a disrespectful tone.it was VERY short.

Even CNN just admitted that

Even CNN just admitted that about 3 million people have watched Loose Change. I think these two who are bashing it are frauds.

it was some sidekick.. she

it was some sidekick.. she mentioned loose change, that they believe in controlled demolition, that it has been viewed a million times on google video, then she showed the front page of reopen911.org, 911truth.org, and im not sure what the others were..

oddly enough they said that 911truth had a petition to release the pentagon tapes because they belive a missle hit the pentagon.. that is a mischaracterization.. she probably just read the st911.org news story and that was the extent of her 'research' ;)

So carn & Able, what do you

So carn & Able, what do you suggest?

Indeed. I have stated many

Indeed. I have stated many times that I respect LC2E/Ms. McKinney for the good they have done. This does not make it acceptable for them to present speculation as fact (former)/act in an extremely unprofessional manner (latter). If you can't understand that, then ignore me.

My problem with Loose Change

My problem with Loose Change and other such productions (too much focus on L.C even in criticism, I admit) is that I don't subscribe to the 'no such thing as bad publicity' school of thought. Maybe this is unwise, we'll see after all this is over.

As to the specific errors in L/C, there's a bit more than 3%. Practically the entire first third, about no-Pentagon-757, for example. I've posted about them before, I'll see if I can be bothered to post them to this thread too...

Well it was short, but it

Well it was short, but it was prime time on cnn, that is something in it's own.

Able... Ahhh... understand

Able...

Ahhh... understand now... The Pentagon

I'll say no more.

Thanks

my 2 cents: Griffin and LC2E

my 2 cents:

Griffin and LC2E have spread 9/11 skepticism further than anyone else.

my other 2 cents:
I would always rather have scholars, former politicians, ex-government officials, etc. etc. representing us to the public - but when that doesn't work (which it hasn't yet), then LC2E isn't so bad that I would rather it all just stay covered up.

"I think these two who are

"I think these two who are bashing it are frauds."

Paranoia is paralyzing. Please, for the sake of the movement, assume instead that we're nitwits.

"it was some sidekick.. she mentioned loose change, that they believe in controlled demolition, that it has been viewed a million times on google video, then she showed the front page of reopen911.org, 911truth.org"

hey that's better than what I expected!

*****

Of course I agree that the truth needs publicity, and that L/C has gotten that for us all with it's smooth editing and so on. It's just that the bad info in it can yet turn out to be a major liability!

(deamn this is an active

(deamn this is an active thread btw :o )

I have stated many times

I have stated many times that I respect LC2E/Ms. McKinney for the good they have done.
carn | 04.28.06 - 8:10 pm | #
really? because in all honesty, all ive ever seen is criticism of both from you.its good to see you admit they have done some good.

exactly my point dz. its so

exactly my point dz. its so easy to nitpick, but LC2 has no doubt had more of an impact than anything else so far as far as exposing people to the fact there is a heap of disturbing questions around 9/11.same with Griffin in the print world.

What hit/didn't hit the

What hit/didn't hit the Pentagon is still far from proven, Able. You talk like it is a settled fact.

Able.. showed the front page

Able..

showed the front page of reopen911.org, 911truth.org

hey that's better than what I expected!

The headline on reopen911.org

Proof Blue Screen Technology Faked 2nd Plane

Oh yeah, great !!!! and you lot moan about LC...

Loose Change was very, very

Loose Change was very, very engaging and accessible to anyone and everyone.

I think that perhaps some claims are a little speculatory, but they do a good job of pointing out why we have to speculate... because the official story doesn't add up.

Are there any really short movies (2-15 mins) out there that are anywhere near as engaging?

what if Loose Change 2 was

what if Loose Change 2 was never made? would that be a plus? you really think so? i think thats a fair question.

To my knowledge...

To my knowledge... 911Truth.org has NEVER promoted a "cruise missile" hitting the Pentagon. They may have posted articles that "theorize" about a "cruise missile", but 911Truth.org has never said one way or the other what they, as an organization, think hit the Pentagon.

Drew, i love the 15 minute

Drew, i love the 15 minute video "Secret of Evil" on this page:

http://www.question911.com/links.php

short and to the point.

ok . . . so where is the 757

ok . . . so where is the 757 . . . where is a skid mark on the lawn . . . where are all the video clips from multiple angles/sources that could clear this.

LC2 is highly accurate.

I think the videos such as 911 Revisted where they show hours of network and local media tv people talking about all the explosions at the base of the building.

apparently, because I've seen the news clips, there were multiple explosions at oklahoma bombing that were only reported once by local media.

im sorry, its just "Secret

im sorry, its just "Secret Evil".

has the report been aired?

has the report been aired? get it on youtube or google video, someone please!

p.s. on the current debate, I happen to believe theres some truth in the old so such thing as bad publicity'. My eyes were opened by loose change, so what it does it does well (though I now see that putting along speculation next to the fact wasnt the best way of doing it). However, anything that exposes people to the film and makes people watch is more likely to help the movement that no people watching it at all.

Even if people watch it and decide for one reason or another, its not true, those people would have acted under that impression anyway, and in this way it cannot but help the movement, as neither can bad publicity.

I agree with DZ that the

I agree with DZ that the Scholars (which I'm a part of) haven't been covered much recently, so LC2 is a heck of alot better than nothing.

And I agree with a007 that its crazy that Reopen911 has blue screen on its home page. WTF?

"Yeah steamlined like a

"Yeah steamlined like a movie coming out in September. Right Jon?"

Hopefully... my fingers are crossed.

first sentence edit: ...I

first sentence edit: ...I happen to believe theres some truth in the old idiom 'theres no such thing as bad publicity'.

"The headline on

"The headline on reopen911.org"

shit, I knew I should have deleted that URL and put in '[...]' instead. I meant the 911truth.org and demolition parts. But as you can see, one can never be too careful with what resources to refer to!

"Even if people watch it and decide for one reason or another, its not true, those people would have acted under that impression anyway, and in this way it cannot but help the movement, as neither can bad publicity."

But some people may tune out all 9/11 truth if the first thing they see is bogus. Of course this is their fault as well, but I rather have our facts straight, just in case.

*****

So the broader questions are: Is having vast masses of people whose facts are off but who think that 9/11 was an inside job better than having a couple of engineer types privy to the finer points about WTC demolitions etc? Yes it is. But is it better than having slightly fewer people whose facts are undisputable? We shall see.

I knew I should have deleted

I knew I should have deleted that URL and put in '[...]' instead

I'm glad you did not...

I'm unsure whether reopen911.org is the king gatekeeper website, or that Jimmy has lost control over the administration of his site.

Either way, in my opinion it's disgusting and an insult to all genuine 9/11 truthseekers...

Cheers

We don't have to prove

We don't have to prove anything. Let the government prove their conspiracy theory.

At least they did not

At least they did not mention reopen911.org by name :)

Not too bad I would say !!!

Thanks for the vid JG

Universal's Flight 93

Universal's Flight 93 'Hijacked' By Truth Seekers
Forum moderators deleting entire threads in real time

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | April 29 2006

Universal Studio's Flight 93 movie online forum has been completely infiltrated by people opposing the official government 9/11 fable and its moderators are having to delete entire threads in real time deeming them, "inappropriate."

A cursory visit to the forum confirms that the entire website has been turned into a battle ground for countering the government apologist propaganda being regurgitated in an impetuous lunge to give credibility to a tale about as reality-based as Humpty Dumpty.

The establishment press is spewing forth hit pieces as fast as its antiquated 'one column per columnist per week' ratio can muster. USA Today were the latest to use this shockudrama screen drivel as a pugel to try and bash a truth movement spreading like wildfire across the four corners of the cyber globe.

On the flip side websites like Counterpunch and even the Philadelphia Daily News are carrying balanced pieces highlighting unanswered questions about Flight 93 that were carefully avoided in the new release.

Universal are removing dissenting posts so fast that children who suck their thumbs and believe the establishment Jack and Jill version of 9/11 are now starting to look like the majority. Visit the forum and show them that a committed and educated minority will always triumph over an ignorant brainwashed mass of stupefied zombies.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/290406truthseekers.htm

I had been clued into 911

I had been clued into 911 for the better part of four years until LC2E came around. Before that the only people who cared about what happened or discussed it were eggheads and conspiracy nuts- it was fringe dwellers.

I know what's wrong with it, I've watched it a dozen times, shown it to hundreds of people and no matter what you want to say about it, it has a certain something that resonates with people because of the mix of naivete', snarkiness, hip music, editing techniques and overall dead on capture of the mood surrounding the "something's not right" meme that pervades our culture right now.

I know these guys, I know they know what their mistakes are and I know that they are fixing them- something you can't say about the MSM or the "official" storyline folks. They aren't shills, aren't an achilles heel to the turth, but a Trojan Horse that got around the media by copying it. People are looking into it because of this film and if they discover things that don't pass the smell test for them personally- like the no plane theory or flight 93 in Cleveland, then they'll decide for themselves- but they will have already come to the conclusion that the official story is a pantload BECAUSE of this film and that's a good thing.

The success of Loose Change

The success of Loose Change 2 was only possible because the movie is damned well made. This is completely forgotten by those who criticize it. Dylan Avery is a brilliant filmmaker, and we should be thankful for that.

Fuzzy as 9/11 research is - due to lack of access to many basic documents - it should noone surprise that some little details in the movie are proven to be not correct. We're all in the process of truth finding. Considering the many different 9/11 theories, it's also no surprise that the movie can't do it right for everyone.

Woody Box

thanks for calling us

thanks for calling us eggheads nobody. hahaha, jk.