Two quick and open questions:

Somewhere in my readings about one sunny clear Tuesday in September, I recall a "tale", an anonymnous report by someone in the "bunker" of the White House with Cheney who claimed that Cheheny slammed the door and stated something to the effect that "I'm in charge here and anyone who crosses me will pay for it".

Can anyone help me remember where I read that?

Is there any corroboration or attribution for that?

permalink for that story: http://www.storytoday.tv/pages/20060502.html

transcript for 911 segment:
the film united 93 came in second in U.S. box office receipts over the weekend, grossing more than eleven million dollars. 9/11 truth advocates have been calling it MYTH or a blatant propaganda film. the story relies on scientific impossiblities, like transcripts from cell phone calls at 33,000 feet, which were not possible over north america five years ago. others are quick to mention that the film was produced by universal, which is owned by nbc, which is owned by general electric, a massive weapons contractor that relies on the escalation of the long war for profitability.

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for the record, we'll run 911 related segments on our show if it's tied into current events, email our newsroom anytime at story@storytoday.tv with links, stories, etc.

Vermonters deliver impeachment resolutions to Congress

http://www.vermontguardian.com/local/052006/ImpeachmentPetitions.shtml

http://www.mediawatch.com/gallery/albums/album01/realhijackert_sml.jpg

Iran to Launch its Oil Bourse Next Week

http://www.raisethehammer.org/blog.asp?id=218

Should we look for another 911 on 666?

http://www.churchofsatan.org/pdf/army_chaplain_handbook.pdf

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cutter_charges_brought_down_wt.html

Professor Says ‘Cutter Charges’ Brought Down WTC Buildings

Evidence of Thermite Uncovered at World Trade Center

Missilegate
http://thewebfairy.com/911/missilegate/focusmagic.htm

"Group for a New American Century"

Drew M:

That's why I purchased 911Facts.net

so we can get a solid fact-checked website that steers clear of much of the speculation that is always so focused on.

Then we would have 1 solid place to point people to serious issues.

Then, I can put together a video compilation to supplement the site!

ALL I NEED IS SOME HELP!

911HijackerDotCom@gmail.com
email me your thoughts, contributions, whatever!

check out todays issue of USA Today. there are 2 responses to the article about Loose Change they had last week, both of which are pretty negative about 9/11 truth.

yeah, i saw NightLine last night, they did a segment on the unmanned Predator drone. this is the drone that many people think hit the Pentagon. i personally think it was a small military plane and not a drone.:duck and cover:

oh, and Matthew, its funny you say that, one of the letters to USA Today said just that, that if it was a conspiracy, it would take at LEAST 50 people and someone would have come forward by now and spilled the beans. thats one of the main stumbling blocks i come across myself. people somehow think 9/11 would take upwards of 50 or more people to pull off.

yet they believe the big lie that only 19 hijackers could do it all by themselves.go figure.

oh shit Jon, i didnt notice you already got one of the letters up.the other one wasnt much better.

I love that argument... "Someone would come forward"...

Someone (SE) has come forward with knowledge of complicity. Not within the Administration, but is that any surprise? If someone took part in 9/11, and then they tried to come forward to "blow the whistle", what do you think would happen to that person, and that person's family?

I'm not talking about the possibility of being murdered, even though that is a possibility. I'm talking about the fact that this person, whomever it was, waited almost 5 years to come out with it. 5 years, two wars, 2000+ American deaths, the 1000's of Iraqi/Afghani deaths, the Patriot Act I & II, the bankrupting of the country, etc... not to mention the original 3000 deaths.

What do you think would happen to this person?

What do you think would happen to that person?

exactly Jon, if it really is only around 50 people involved, even that isnt too hard to control.its the argument i hear more than any other, that "someone would have come forward by now". thats almost as funny as the "the media would have asked questions by now" argument.

Look at what's happened to Sibel. Her family in Turkey has been threatened. She has been threatened. Whistleblowing is not easy.

i still hold out hope that Sibel will just say screw it and spill everything she knows.i know its not likely but i still hope.

Simpsons go 911 Truth? Sorry to change the subject, and you might think this is silly, but it seems the latest Simpsons episode (S17E19, April 30, "Girls Just Want To Have Sums") contains veiled references to a Bush/neocon complicity in 9/11.
Watch the episode yourself and see what you can find. I have made a list myself of odd lines of dialogue, character situations and visual clues, will return later with them, but want to hear any opinions first.

People have asked me... "If what Sibel Edmonds knows is so incriminating, why doesn't she just come forward with it? If they throw her in jail, the people's support will eventually get her out."

Again, she has been threatened, as well as her family.

If she does come out with it, goes to jail... while she's sitting in jail, her entire family could be killed.

Also, she will have broken the law. Someone who "breaks laws" will obviously be POUNCED on by the McMedia. She risks losing credibility, etc...

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_748.shtml

"False Flagg" The Rosetta Stone of 911

Don't know if you've seen the above online Journal commentary or the Newsday article its based on.
With all of the rangling over the minute details of 911, articles like this remind you of just how obviouse it is that 911 was a false flag operation.
The planted evidence is almost laughable.

From hit piece:

"It would take at least 50 people to pull off something like the 9/11 conspiracies being promoted by such films as Loose Change. It's hard to believe that all of them would keep quiet for five years. Someone would have told a friend, a relative, a bartender, a cleaning woman, a waitress."

Maybe they have. How can we know for sure, and where would it get them/us??? (If someone did start talking, their life would be threatened and/or they would have a terrible "accident.")

i dont doubt that Jon, and i dont blame her for not saying what she knows. she knows first hand the power of the people who want her to stay silent.im not saying if i was in her position i would do anything different.i can still hope though cant i?

Here is more information about the recent fire in New-York city:

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/05/02/newyork.fire.ap/index.html

You can see in the picture that the steel frame of the building is still up.
Again, no total collpase

i was watching my local news this morning and they just built something in the spot where the One Meridian Plaza once stood and burnt like crazy. they showed the original footage of the fire and it was a friggin inferno. funny how that building didnt even buckle.

RP--That "False Flagg" article is great!

Such blatant planting of incriminating evidence framing the “hijackers.” It's almost comical how poorly the gov't staged this.

it would be comical if so many americans didnt buy it hook line and sinker. its donwright depressing to me how fucking stupid some of us are.god bless america. fuck the media.

"Someone would have told a friend, a relative, a bartender, a cleaning woman, a waitress."

And then WTF would the friend, relative, bartender, cleaning woman, or waitress do about it???

http://www.rinf.com/news/jun-05/16b.html

Illuminati Card Game Predicted 9/11 Pentagon Fire

Published in 1995, Steve Jackson's role-playing card game called Illuminati - New World Order 'predicted' the Pentagon fire on September 11, 2001...

"Pentagon" -- When I saw this card, immediately after seeing the Twin Tower picture, my blood froze!

Unless one had advanced knowledge of the Illuminati Plan, there is no way on earth that they would have been able to create pictures in 1995 that accurately depict the unfolding events of 9/11!

The Pentagon is shown on fire; we know that a plane allegedly flew into a section of the Pentagon and nearly burned that section completely.

However, the rest of the Pentagon was undamaged to the point where its functions continued unimpeded.

Isn't this the situation depicted here? This card shows a fire burning mightily in the center courtyard of the Pentagon, but the rest of the building looks undamaged enough so that normal activities could continue unimpeded!

Thus, these two cards literally depict both of the strikes of 9/11: against the Twin Towers first and then against the Pentagon.

This kind of accuracy six (6) years before the attacks is possible only if one knows the Illuminati Plan very thoroughly.

The only time the illuminati fooled me was to make me believe that WTC was done with remote controlled planes. This is the computer generated image by Scott Myers.
http://nineeleven2001.tripod.com/images/ua175-1-a.swf

Look at Scott Myers client list!
http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/TVS%20aboutus.html

http://www.ki4u.com/free_book/s73p920.htm

I told the people at work that I'm being interviewed by the Times Herald, and they sent me this.

Thought I'd share. It's actually pretty funny...

http://www.rinf.com/news/jun-05/911.jpg

What I find curious about this image published in 1995, besides the bright pyrotechnic display, no plane, floor level, and tilting angle of the upper section, is the Illuminati Shining Delta midway on a building in the left background. Is this the 23rd floor of Building 7?

it would be comical if so many americans didnt buy it hook line and sinker. its downright depressing
Chris

I agree Chris but these 'facts" (attention Jon,DHS,Yizzo) are so absurd that they can push many americans over the tense line of wanting to believe the official story but not wanting to feel they are suckers for accepting this misinformation.
When I have exposed people to all of this evidence( including the car with flight manual and the Koran left at the airport) that was so blatantly planted, the usual reaction is "That is just ridiculous, (usually a little laughter in the midst of a serious and disturbing conversation and their guard comes down a little, thus we share a tense laughter that displays our humanity, that same humanity which still finds farts funny because they are the eruption of uncomfortable truths of being imperfect humans in the midst of playing our "serious' social games of perfection or non-vulneribility.)
The next statement is usually, "But that doesn't mean our government planted it. Maybe they were also fooled by it."
I respond " Then who planted it? The hijackers were obviously not trying to frame themselves. ( I usually add a little Niger forgery comment here). And if they trully were fooled than they are dangerously incompetent or it was more beneficial for them to believe it than to look further into the truth."

The door has opened. And we can peek into the room together as imperfect citizens and humans trying to find the truth.

You're co-workers are very amuzing, Jon. What do they think about your truth activism?

I just told someone else about the interview, and here's what they said...

Me: I'm in the 9/11 Truth Movement

Them: which is?

Me: A movement of millions who think the Government not only lied to us about 9/11, but were complicit in the events. Specifically, the Bush Administration & friends.

Them: wow, next thing you'll tell me is you voted for John Kerry and we never walked on the moon

Me: No. I'll tell you I voted for David Cobb, and we did land on the moon.

Them: gotcha. well con grats on your news piece

Me: Thanks. And incidentally... if BushCo wanted to invade both Iraq, and Afghanistan prior to 9/11, and the ONLY way they would be able to do something like that is if something like 9/11 took place, and then something like 9/11 DOES take place, and they USE 9/11 to invade both Afghanistan and Iraq... doesn't that make them suspect? And if the facts surrounding 9/11 point to the Administration, shouldn't we take a look at it? We'd be fools not to. And if you think "they would never".... these people were willing to slaughter 1000's upon 1000's of Iraqis, and Afghanis. You're going to tell me that killing 3000 is beyond them? PUHLEEEEEEEESE.

Them: ...............

They didn't response.

"You're co-workers are very amuzing, Jon. What do they think about your truth activism?"

They try to ingore it to the best of their ability... minus a couple.

Jon, an inteligent, articulate guy like you who works with these people can't get them to open up to 9/11 truth? Do they believe you and just try to ignore the whole thing, or do they just not believe you?

BTW folks... just in case...

1. I'm not suicidal.
2. If I die, you'd better make a HUGE stink.

Carry on.

"Jon, an inteligent, articulate guy like you who works with these people can't get them to open up to 9/11 truth? Do they believe you and just try to ignore the whole thing, or do they just not believe you?"

Some people don't want to know about 9/11 Truth. They would prefer taking care of their lives, their families, their ways of life rather than get active.

I've managed to convince a few.

Me, I have a problem with murdering 3000 people.

"It's hard to believe that all of them would keep quiet for five years"

Oh, and if some of them did come forward, surely the mainstream media would cover it and do their best to reveal the conspiracy?

I wish I had a miniature steel + concrete model of a WTC building, so that I could place it in an engulfing midsummer bonfire for an hour+ and see if it collapses.

Amy Goodman--Gatekeeper Extraordinaire: Just an old link to some letters protesting her hatchet job re: David Ray Griffin.
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/04-04-05/discussion.cgi.22.html

I have a problem with murdering 3000 people, just so you can murder 1000's more, and just so you can do everything you've ever wanted to do, regardless of how it affects the people of America and the world.

I have a problem with that.

"Me, I have a problem with murdering 3000 people."

Man, just the thought of this inside job infuriates me beyond words! What the hell is wrong with all these sheeple???

If you need motivation... just remember all of those people you saw on the TV set holding pictures of their loved ones up to the screen, in the hopes that someone, somewhere saw them alive, instead of mangled between steel... unrecognizable by their mother, or their father.

Then, think about Bush's heh heh heh laugh...

It really doesn't take much.

"just remember all of those people you saw on the TV set holding pictures of their loved ones up to the screen, in the hopes that someone, somewhere saw them alive"...

That was about the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life!

"Something in your house, could kill your children! Details at eleven."

It is easier to divide people emotionally than intellectually. If you control words and make them conform to your definitions, then you can control thoughts, destinies and nations. How many rational intelligent people do you know that can watch the news and not be emotionally effected? The purpose of the news is to take noble things and make them base by continually stirring, poking, prodding, fanning, enflaming all of us against one another into polarized, separated, isolated, victimized, under constant attack, minorities surrounded by enemies. Has anyone noticed that I only attack ideas and not people here?

http://www.911hoax.com/Table_Contents.asp

i agree Radical, but many people on this site in the past few days have been trying to say its liberals that are the reason 9/11 truth doesnt break through.i cant let a comment like that stand.at least some liberals allow the thought of "inside job" enter their minds. most conservatives scoff at the very notion. and dena proves why i have to make comments defending "liberals".dena said:many among the conservatives and libertarians are very savvy to the true state of affairs. Sharp contrast to the left peace group leaders who still refuse to touch the issue with a ten foot pole.

Traitors for their silence about 9/11.
dena | 05.03.06 - 6:48 pm | #
was it conservative Rush Limbaugh who devoted a whole show to 9/11 truth and had David Ray Griffin on, or was that liberal Mike Malloy? please stop expecting establishment "liberals" to talk about 9/11 truth. they are as useless as establishment conservatives, although at least they dont blindly wave the bloody flag for war and praise NSA spying and torture.

i dont blame "conservatives" for not exposing 9/11 truth. you should probably stop blaming "liberals" just because they traditionally are more intellectually honest than the right.the MSM is the MSM and it doesnt matter if you are conservative or liberal.if you are in the mainstream you got there by being dishonest and by ignoring disturbuing truths.lets NOT blame one side or this could go on forever.and that is why the 2 party sytem is a racket. look what its doing here right now.

JFK=lefty=murdered
RFK=lefty=murdered
Wellstone=lefty=murdered
MLK=lefty=murdered.
Carnahan=lefty=murdered
im just sayin.

im just saying, true liberals are dangerous to the elites and the powers that be. true liberals tend to get murdered.

Brief upbeat article re: Loose Change (2 I guess) to be shown at a gathering in Canada. http://www.sookenewsmirror.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=32&cat=44&id=...

The PNAC Paper Trail by Jeff Huber -- Excellent article here: http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m23024&l=i&size=1&hd=0

Chris,
I agree with all of your posts above. I'm just sayin......We / I expected the left to expose this and most of them haven't because they have usually been the ones to do this, like the list above demonstrates. "Establishment" left and right are both corrupt. But for me, criticizing the establishment left is a form of self-criticism for me. I could easily criticize the establishment right but thats too easy and the establishment left does a good job of that without touching any of the more uncomfortable issues which could potentially undermine both parties, but could destroy the Republicans if they remain tied to Bush and company, and they know it. I'll leave it to them to do their own soul searching and self criticism.

My point was that this is a criminal act that is larger than the difference between both parties and political perspectives, both real and imaginary. And like most traumatic life events, it suddenly and painfully exposes the reality of our current situation. We all need to face that reality.

i agree 100% its bigger than both parties, thats why it puzzles me so much why some people here want to blame only liberals for staying silent on 9/11.like i said, at least the silent liberals dont wave the flag for wars based on fake terrorist attacks and lies.

Reasonable people don't look to Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly to present 9/11 truth (or any kind of truth for that matter).

Resonalbe people do (or did) expect people like Amy Goodman & Bill Maher to at least report about the theory. When they didn't, it gave extra credibility to the "official story", because the administration's worst critics are going along with it.

Goodman at least had Griffin on her show.(i still dont like her though) Maher is too well known to even risk it. Maher is a good partisan, nothing more. hes too weak minded to think his government would sacrifice 3000 american lives.and like i said, even if he did believe that he wouldnt dare speak it.

Let me explain:

a majority of democrats both on and offline obesses over how "evil" bush and company are, they go on and on and on...about how iraq was a lie, etc.

Yet when anyone merely questions 9/11, with solid mainstream proof, they get all up and arms with 'youre an idiot!'

Do you see what I mean? They say they dont believe anything the neocons say, but when it comes to 9/11 they dont think there is any unanswered question. What gives? Democrats should be the one wanting 9/11 truth, instead of burying it.

Also, some really big Republicans have gone out of their way to help expose 9/11. So democrats blind hate of republicand and conservatives is unwarranted, even tho I understand where they are coming from.

Chris, Goodman finally did have Griffin on her show. But I think she did so only because many truthers were begging her to have him. But then Goodman allowed a jerk to heckle Griffin and disrupt his presentation. (Goodman usually has most all guests on with her only, not with a big-mouth interrupting & playing devil's advocate.)

Tribeca: 'United 93' Premiere --The writer of this article didn't like 9/11 truth "crackpots" handing out literature: http://www.cinematical.com/2006/04/26/tribeca-united-93-premiere/

Chris. You should take all of the left 'gate keeper " comments as a compliment. At least there's a gate that many people believe should naturally be open to questions about 911.

Its as if a horrible and unjust event happened in your town and it looked like some of the the local power elite were involved. Everybody in town knew about the crime but no one who had been previously active in local town affairs talked about it,.... nobody.

Now, when the people found out about the crime, and the realized the strange and complete silence: , their first reaction would not be to go to any of the local elite to ask why they had not looked into or even discussed the matter, that would be self evident.
The real questions would be focused on those leaders that had no direct relation to the current town elite and had a record of speaking out before on issues of crime ,injustice and curruption in town matters, but now curiously they remained silent.

Why?

Thus theLeft's silence is more perplexing than Rights.

Resonalbe people do (or did) expect people like Amy Goodman & Bill Maher to at least report about the theory. When they didn't, it gave extra credibility to the "official story", because the administration's worst critics are going along with it.
Anonymous | 05.03.06 - 8:19 pm | #

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Amy Goodman on 9/11

Amy Goodman was on C-Span's Washington Journal show.
She said we need a "full investigation" into 9/11, and said the 9/11 Commission "did not do a satisfactory investigation".
Video is here: rtsp://video.c-span.org/15days/wj032606.rm
The question comes at 1:16; the answer comes at 1:20
This is a major breakthrough -- until now, Goodman has been a major left gatekeeper.

A sample:
The dignity of my brother is my dignity. The bravery of my brother is my bravery. The wisdom of my brother is my wisdom.
When a child dies in Africa that is my dignity lessened forever. It is my failure. That is my eternal loss. When a child dies in Iraq bound in handcuffs with a bullet wound to the head that is my fault. I didnÂ’t have the foreknowledge. I didnÂ’t really care. But I thought I cared. I thought I cared and didnÂ’t. I did in fact have the knowledge before hand. The dignity of that lost child is my dignity lost forever. Bless me dear Father, for I have sinned. I knew.

Thus theLeft's silence is more perplexing than Rights.
Radical Pragmatist | 05.03.06 - 10:45 pm | #
indeed it is. but its NOT any worse than the rights silence.like you said, at least the left has gatekeepers. the right doesnt need any, they ALL lie.