A perfect opportunity for the no-planers to speaw misinformation and hurt the 9/11 truth movement.. YES!
truther | 05.11.06 - 6:12 pm | #

is that a joke??? do you think flight 77 hit the pentagon???

BARRRRRRFFFF!!!!

anyone ever read ben steins "do jews run hollywood." article

http://www.eonline.com/Features/Specials/Jews/

and then we get united93 movie

oliver stone has one coming out

can you see why people are more anti semetic?

digging thier own graves

"FYI, Rumsfeld did an interview with someone on Fox news a few days ago (saw it on the daily show last night) and he pointed to a peice of gray crumpled up metal (foot long, 2-3 inches wide) and said it was from the plane.. had never seen that peice before."

He referred to it as a "Wonderful Reminder".

Oops... am I even ALLOWED in this thread? ;)

NO. That does not open up another argument. I was being a smart ass.

"Hey, Smart Ass!

Have you read the Gaurdian review of Flight 93. I posted it two threads below in the "Tribeca' thread."

I think so. It talked about the inconsistencies didn't it?

If you want more proof of government complicity in attrocity, more poof of how evil corporations are, check out today's MSNBC feature on how Bayer purposefully got thousands of people infected with AIDS, with the US government turning the other way
(yes, bayer, the company that brought you Zyklon B in the 30's and 40's)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS3mhjt7TrY

Ben Stein is a joke. anyway, does anybody know if this will be on TV or if its only on the internet? i didnt see anything about this appearing on TV, yet it says made for TV movie.just wondering whos gonna air this trash.

My interview is tonight. The reporter said I could record it so I'll have it up later tonight. FYI.

zero doubt that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon? that sounds a bit absolutist.

break a leg, Jon!

personally, i think the Cleveland/Flight 93 story speaks volumes. initial,local news reports are almost ALWAYS more reliable because its before "they" have a chance to smooth out the story. see OKC bombing for proof of this.

"I have absolutely zero doubt Flight 77 hit the pentagon. Hey, maybe it was remote controlled, whatever. But the point is Flight 77 was allowed to hit, as they stood down. Not every story that day was 'faked', and while it is highly odd it crashed into the small portion newly renovated, I dont see how that shows Flight 77 didnt crash there.

Hell, rumsfeld was showing off a piece of Flight 77 as a 'wonderful reminder' on Fox news the other day.
pockybot | 05.11.06 - 6:55 pm | #"

I know that this may open a can of worms here, but .......

Can you show me where the engines hit the Pentagon???? They are made of some of the strongest metal known to man, titanium, yet there is no sign of them hitting the building. I have a real problem with that. Yet we are to believe that the body was harder than the engines and created an 18ft hole.

I don't doubt that a plane hit the Pentagon, but I doubt that flight 77 hit the Pentagon.

a perfectly cylindrical hole at that.

"break a leg, Jon!"

Remember the Batman movie with Jack Nicholson and Michael Keaton, and in it, there was a line from the Joker...

"Wait'll they get a loada me."

Thanks!

;)

"I have absolutely zero doubt Flight 77 hit the pentagon. Hey, maybe it was remote controlled, whatever. But the point is Flight 77 was allowed to hit, as they stood down. Not every story that day was 'faked', and while it is highly odd it crashed into the small portion newly renovated, I dont see how that shows Flight 77 didnt crash there."

I am inclined to agree as I generally buy in to the Hoffman and Oil Empire analyses, but...I have a really hard time believing a plane could penetrate three rings of the ridiculously reinforced Pentagon, even at 500 mph.

it was a small military aircraft that shot a missile just before it impacted the side of the Pentagon. it was painted to look like an american airlines flight.the true culprits behind 9/11 needed to show that the military, not only civiilians were within the "evil al qaeda" reach.seriously, how shocking was it that one of the most heavily protected buildings on the planet was able to be hit AFTER the towers,and AFTER it was clear their were multiple hijackings? a "friendly" aircraft hit it, thats why.just my opinion.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/a-10.htm

a possibility.

I agree there was a forced standdown on all fighter jets. I agree a plane was allowed to hit the pentagon. What are we to make of those famous 5 frames? I agree frame 1 shows some sort of white plane smaller than what woul dbe a passenger jet...but I personally, I think a lot of us have seen pictures of all the big parts from a big commercial plane at the pentagon. Whether ya want to believe they were planted there, thats your perogative. I just am not buying the 'planted debris' thing.

Would some of you agree that some people and sites have such a vested interest and faith in the 'no plane', 'missle', or 'no flight 77' theory, that even if evidence came out that could be 100% verified as legit, thered still be those who said 'no way! its all fake!'

I mean just the fact theres idiots who think the planes were holograms, had pods or any of that bogus crap shows how far people want to stretch reality.

you admit you see a smaller plane. then what explains that pocky? extra plane? decoy? what explains it? what explains the perfect 18 foot circle in the 3rd ring but a missile of some sort?

I have absolutely zero doubt Flight 77 hit the pentagon. Hey, maybe it was remote controlled, whatever. But the point is Flight 77 was allowed to hit, as they stood down. Not every story that day was 'faked', and while it is highly odd it crashed into the small portion newly renovated, I dont see how that shows Flight 77 didnt crash there."

I am inclined to agree as I generally buy in to the Hoffman and Oil Empire analyses, but...I have a really hard time believing a plane could penetrate three rings of the ridiculously reinforced Pentagon, even at 500 mph.
Al C. | 05.11.06 - 7:28 pm | #
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But where is the 100 tons of wreckage? No matter what people say they saw. There is no wreckage from a commercial passenger jet. So how can anyone say they believe flight 77 hit the pentagon. Show me the wreckage. PLEASE!!!!!

Yeah, pocky, the dudes labelling others planehuggers are pretty much kaput if 77 definitively turns up in a video.

Well, to me it's telling when the most conspiratorial website Ive seen, that believes in a shadow government and all this, seems to believe Flight 77 hit the pentagon. Abovetopsecret had on their frotn page what I think is a pretty comprehensive look into why Flight 77 most likely hit the pentagon:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

I will say, I dont know what to make of the small white plane seen in frame one, nor the coincidence of the plane or whatever striking the newly renovated patch. However, where did the people go? Weve all seen the horrific pictures of what happened to the pentagon workers.

Also, if the planes were remote controlled that day, was the remote control not working on Flight 93?

>>> Yeah, pocky, the dudes labelling others planehuggers are pretty much kaput if 77 definitively turns up in a video.
Al C. | 05.11.06 - 7:46 pm | #

Sad that so many on here are frantic to believe that FL77 couldn't have hit. The logic goes like this:

"I didn't see the full engine sitting in the hole so FL 77 couldn't have been there! I didn't see a FOAM SEAT in the debris, so FL 77 couldn't have been there! . . . and if I did see the full engine or full seat, then it would be too perfect and must have been fake planted evidence . . . and if the engine or foam seat were blackened and smashed then I could say it was actually an engine and seat from an A-3 Sky Warrior, and get away with it if I had $10k to make a film saying it was!

yes fakery, its just as sad to see people claim they have no doubt that Flight 77 hit despite scant and sometimes conflicting evidence.

"Also, if the planes were remote controlled that day, was the remote control not working on Flight 93?
pockybot | 05.11.06 - 7:50 pm | #"

OK, this is just my thought. This is not something that I spread around, but from time to time I might mention it.

I personally think that all of the passengers were moved to Flight 93, and the intent was to shoot it down to get rid of the bodies or witnesses. Whats that you say, they would have died anyway? Yes, but it is more difficult to have a remote controlled plane with a real pilot. I believe some of the idea of the Bumble Bee Plane theory, but not all.

Given that all the planes were only 1/4 full, this to me makes the most sense. Otherwise, why bother arranging for the planes to be partially filled?

I think that given the information we have, this to me makes the most sense.

I understand that there is much speculation about what really happened, but this is my best guess. It does not mean that I am right, it just means that it is my theory.

The President of Iran can make an "educated guess" that 9/11 was an inside job but "The Nation" and Noam Chomsky can't? puuhhleeeze.
Thomas Jefferson

I've said this before, but the reason they don't touch it (yet) is:
1) 911 destroys the whole left/right game on which their strategies and many identies / liveliehoods depend.( and 'might' expose the involvement of their financial foundations)

2) They are not convinced that the fall out from exposing 911 will necessarily work in their favor. The exposure of 911 could easily be used to create a more fascist system if people are just scared and not informed when it happens.

3) Catastrophic events are usually more beneficial to those that want (and already have) the power, not those that have been working to expose the not so subtle exploitive nature of our system of government and economics.

I don't agree with any of the above as reasons to avoid 911, but I can understand its logic.

Even "rebels' or especially main stream "opposition" often rely on the existence of an establishment for their identity and power,
Exposing 911 would remove the legitimacy of that establishment very quickly.

4. (of course) Many of them are a false oposition.

PS. I'm not an optimist, I'm a radical pragmatist!!!

Remove Bush--"Also, how do they get DNA when the plane disinigrated?"

That sir, is a most interesting question!

the jet that hit the pentagon was using the new quick and clear burning jet fuel that leaves no carbon deposits on open books 10 feet from the impact site.

it was magic DNA - this accident was like no other because of the magic and my faith in lord jesus and the picture of his mother that looks like an oil stain under the overpass.

This thread is an example of why I dont concern myself with the Pentagon. Do what you want tho obviously. Im not a gatekeeper. I sleep with a stuffed animal for Christ sake.

Oh no!

not another discussion whether

JOHN JUDGE is right

vs

the people who claim PHYSICAL impossibleness.

Fact is

that many electronics technicians died inside. Why is nobody working on their field of expertise?

They were NAVY. NAVY has the best remote-control flying weapons and simulations.

NAVY secret service (ONI) is the oldest and the bloodiest murder-spook.

Face it. The crowd that pulled off 9/11 *HAD TO BE* willing to kill. You can not get red-blooded americans to kill other americans. THEREFORE there had to be a ruse.

The best bumsteers these days are done by computer/simulation. My guess is that the poor souls inside the pentagon were the part of the operation that needed human-guidance DURING THE ACT, who were "doing the killing" and had to be silenced right afterwards to pacify their souls forever.

Safe to say: the PENTAGON is the key to the riddle.

Hence the film will be very important.

Knowing the military cranium they will stuff it up royally.

I feel the perps know two logical things:

a) 911 truth MUST NEVER come out
b) only propaganda-myths can achieve this

BUT! they do not have enough control over the minds. They have AMAZING control, but not enough. They will want to bring out MORE PROPAGANDA GUNS, and in the process can easily shoot themselves in the foot with these moody weapons.

Of course they are aware of this, hence the LAME EVIDENCE so far. Our job is to brutish force them to release more info and make mistakes.

=====

Oh, another thing.

Why does the LEFT (Chomsky et al) seem so much like loosers?

Because they are the only ones who have a modicum of historical perspective and they know full well that the grand daft mass is not ready to act sensibly.

The evil elitist fuckers are quite happy that the leftists are (falsely!) "discredited"... they are very happy that the media does not have a lefty super-star and lots of left-wing talk-shows. THE IDEAS of (real!) freedom are dangerous. These lefties MUST be kept out of the debate by making their arguments seem OUTLANDISH.

The LEFT of today is EXACTLY like the Social Democrats opposing Hitler in the Reichstag. They were perceived as being lame and "gatekeepers".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Wels

But I warn you. If 911 truth prevails and the terrorist logic of capitalism can be transmuted into something more humane like SOCIAL-MARKET-ECONOMY in an after-911-terror-private-madness world... in a society organised along the lines of ALEXANDER RUESTOW

http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sciabarra/notablog/archives/000776.html

the left will know what to do.

(I see you don't believe me!)

You will kill this effort out of ignorance and light-hearted approach to the most difficult thing in human history:

how to run a fair a society

Modern technology (computers) *could* make it easier to run large societies, but every mechanism needs a machinist.

A newbie machinist fucks up in 100% of the cases. Its like Hani Hanjour at the helm.

Now there are MANY voices, and the advantage of uneducated people is that they often have an intact common sense. BUT a good society takes PEACEFUL, PATIENT, CALM (and often way too protracted) DECISION MAKING.

Fast, decisive action is only needed TO FOOL PEOPLE, to stab them in the back.

(Read VOLTAIRE's BASTARDs and listen to the ABC AUSTRALIA IDEAS LECTURE JOIHN RALSTON SAUL MP3 -- google it)

Pleeeaaease take the one-month fast-track course in society. 9-11 will come out by itself now. The truthers will win, but we will loose the humanity in an after-911-truth if we do not know what to replace the DRIVING FORCES of 911 *WITH*.

Money-reform will not do it alone!

Take the fast-course, set up a mp3-player in the house with a small FM transmitter and get a few cheapop FM radios. Let the mp3-player play a long playlist of CHOMSKY, PARENTI, John Ralston Saul and every lefty SOCIETY THEORIST you can lay your hands on.

Avoid the right-wing bastards! They have fucked up the world once-to-often!

for those of you who do not want to learn anything

Believe me when I say that

if in doubt how to proceed, ask uncle Chomsky and take his advice.

(the lazy just believe someone instead
of learning themselves)

Although not wise by itself, this alone ...WILL prevent disasters... and if you are willing enough to SHUT THE FUCK UP when learned men who have nothing to gain talk, the way forward will be illuminated and the way to disaster pointed out.

So please please please take a crash course in SOCIETY.

A great first lesson is a 1970 talk by Chomsky:

http://www.chomsky.info/audionvideo/19700216.mp3

...the bottom-most talk on the Audio/Video Page of www.chomsky.info

really FUNDEMENTAL TO LISTEN TO.. many many times. You young guys cannot possibly listen to it once and then have learnt much. Listen to it many many times... and look up the words, they are PRECISE TERMS that chomsky uses.. its NOT MUCH WORK to find them WIKIPEDIA and find out what REEMS of book you DO NOT have to read, allthewhile getting a fair idea what MANY GOOD THINKERS have already worked out for us.

Only after this course will you have the WHEREWITHALL to help form a post-US-terror society.

Remove Bush "So I guess that my belief that the WTC's were demolished is incorrect also? Or how about the fact that Flight 93 was shot down?"

I believe that the WTC towers and building 7 were purposely demolished, and not solely by airplane impacts and jet fuel fires. I think that Professor Steven Jones has the best presentation of that at his BYU page, that I'm sure you've already seen.

> http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

As for Flight 93, I don't know if it was shot down by the military, or if it was crashed by either passengers or terrorist hijackers. 911Myths has a purported picture of a work crew unearthing what appears to be one of Flight 93's engines from the Shanksville field. It's a newly released image.

apparently a Flight 93 engine, second row, right> http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_93_photos.html

As for pic #6, that is what I felt when I wrote the text before posting it. I'll try to refrain from comments like that in the future.

If you beleive the Towers and WTC7 were brought down by explosives you are correct. If you know this then it makes the most sense they are not going to risk the planes not reaching their targets by leaveing this in the hands of idiots. Too much to risk depending on slapdicks to keep the passengers at bay, get control of the planes away from the pilots (most with military backgrounds), fly the plane, find the targets without help from ground control, and hit the targets. So I doubt passengers on Flight 93 were able to take control of the plane from hijackers who never had control of the plane to begin with. Yes I know everything.

this is something i would like some of your opinions about....

what do you think of the premise that the wtc1&2 were brought down by some kind of fierce depleted uranium type weapon(s)??

1.smoldering core for a long time
2. when is a nuke not a nuke?
depleted uranium small nuke
3. arent there over 15000 seriously
ill people that were explosed to
ground zero?
4. it would do the job---it could have
been planted during that time when
they took down the power for a few
hours the weekend before

use occams razor...

high tech thermite torches complicates the argument

simple crack commandos planted depleted uranium charges in wtc1&2

I don't think the photos on 911myths regarding Flight 93 are "faked", and to me show that either passengers brought down the flight or it was shot down.

I also think there are too many plane part evidence and witnesses to say a plane of some sort didnt hit the Pentagon. I said Im convinced 100% that Flight 77 hit the pentagon. Hey if Im proven wrong, than thats part of the process of learning truth. I should say I am at least sure, Im sure we all are that *some* sort of plane hit.

Here we go again!!
The world will witness by Hollywood another worlds first!!.... how titanium engines, wings, fuselage, seats, luggage, people, flight recorders AND survelance videos just vapourize instantly, and disappear into thin air!!!

WOW!! We can read our grandchildren this fairy tale along with Cinderella and Jack and the beanstalk!

Why are we Americans so fucking gullible?

BAAAAAAARF!!!!!

2) They are not convinced that the fall out from exposing 911 will necessarily work in their favor. The exposure of 911 could easily be used to create a more fascist system if people are just scared and not informed when it happens.

I presume THEY means Chomsky etc.

Well, thats part of the truth.

Chomsky is hard pressed to acknowledge 911 truth..

He says 911 truth is a time-waster, and he is right... unlike most of the time when he is 99% correct this time he is only %50 right.

Of course its a time waster.. especially now where the movement is big enough to make the truth come out, just be not going away. And it DOES DISTRACT from actual activist work that could be done.

Where he is wrong is:

- he himself does not believe it
(he is hardly alone)
- were he think it actively HURTS
the fight for justice.

Ergo: it still stays a time-waster.

Thans Ø®£Z for your debunking pics.
I almost pissed myself laughing.
You're an ass and possible an sigle cell organism if you actually believe that shit.

Look over the figures and see the redundant nonsense textual labeling. Obviously there to create confusion, which wouldnt be hard on the the american public who voted for Bush.

Hmmmm I wonder what most of them are REALLY feeling like now!

To ALL the people that voted for BUSH (2nd time round).... YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. Thanks for putting, mine, my kids and the rest of the fucking world's future in the jepordy!

The BIG problem is that the government's 9/11 story is just that - a story. It isn't a theory. To get up to that level it has to undergo tests, experimentation, trials etc. In other words it has to be proven physically possible. Since they claim that a 757 zoomed into the wall of the Pentagon basically at ground level at 530 mph they have to prove that this turn of events is possible. They haven´t made the slightest attempt. They just say it happened. This just does not suffice.

They also have to explain why this 100-ton airliner made such light damage to the building by hitting it at 530 mph. There is action and there is reaction in the physical world. There is no way around this. The energy sink (energy release) from a 100-ton plane crashing at 530 mph is stupendous to say the least and the result would be radically different from the scene at the Pentagon.

Aircraft crashes leave lots of aircraft wreckage. There is also no way around this. Metal doesn´t just vanish into thin air. Again this is elementary physics. There should be big tail and wing sections available not to mention engines made from steel and titanium. It just wasn´t there. This all needs to be explained, otherwise we're just stuck with a story, a tall tale, a fable.

pocky--"I also think there are too many plane part evidence and witnesses to say a plane of some sort didnt hit the Pentagon. I said Im convinced 100% that Flight 77 hit the pentagon."

With all due respect, I am 99% percent certain AA77 did not hit the Pentagon!

RANDKILLER999--"simple crack commandos planted depleted uranium charges in wtc1&2"

I stick with prof. Jones & his thermite and/or other incendiary agents + explosives for WTC-1, WTC-2, & WTC-7. Thank you.

What we need is a movie like "Roswell" that exposes the cover-up, not another cover-story. In this movie, nobody will ever ask "where's the plane?"

" Americans will be proud to see how quickly the Pentagon responded to defend the nation,"

HOW QUICKLY???? 1hr and 45 minutes for the most powerful and tehnologically advanced military in the world is quickly? Not to mention the Andrews ariforce Base right next to the pantagon, Pentagon's missle air defense system...etc.

Call the producers at 800-936-4055

So that number is disconnected but the director Joel Ratner can be reached at:
703-867-5635

Leave him a message, ask if his film the confiscated video of the "plane" hitting the pentagon.

Susan "I almost pissed myself laughing."

Baby's can't really control their bladders. Even though you exibit an infantile understanding regarding the Pentagon attack, since you did manage to not piss yourself, we'll refer to you as a toddler instead of a baby, for arguments sake.

That is, however, if I was going to allow myself to be lured into your argument trap any further, with your NonsenseBait™.

Fortunately for me, though, I see it for what it is, and am not venturing any further.

Good day, crazy little girl.

Thanks for the exchange Radical Prag. Looks like we got u2r2h going. The left/right debate is indeed bogus and your points are good ones. And don't get me wrong u2r2h, Chomsky is a great thinker. In all fairness to the left, I was at the recent David Ray Griffin lecture in Los Angeles when a question regarding the "left intellectual elite" was brought up. David said in his reply that MICHAEL PARENTI now believes 9/11 was an inside job. I repeat David Ray Griffin says Michael Parenti believes 9/11 was an inside. Now whether Parenti has a coming out party anytime soon is anybody's guess.

Here is the most telling (damming) interview of Noam Chomsky's view about the 911 truth movement. In answer to a caller's very legitimate question, Noam Chomsky refers to the 911 truth movement as an "industry".
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/noam_chomsky_9-11.mp3

A newly released 9-11 Visibility Project video speaks VOLUMES about the history of the peace and justice leader's CENSORSHIP of the 9/11 truth issue (though the majority of their membership also believes in 911 complicity.

Interesting to note the increased public awareness while noting how little has actually changed with the peace community leader's continued aversion to the valid 9/11 truth issue.

http://digitalstyledesigns.com/movies2/911VisSignPlans.mov

thanks for that Chomsky-mp3!

Altough I was deeply dissapointed in the mans comments...

Im surprised at how he undermines the significance of 911.

But he does say that he hasn't really investigated what 911Truthers have to say..

Chomsky? Guys, stop looking at 9/11 as a partisan issue.

You act as if there are no Democrats/Liberals involved in the global pyramid power scheme.

Yes, some of your ideological heroes are bought and paid-for globalists. Get used to it and wake up. Not necessarily in that order.

Regarding Chompsky and the leftgatekeeping leaders and left activism: I don't mean to criticize the left, I just find it unfortunate the anti globalization/anti war/pro peace/etc community dismisses anything refuting any part of the official 9/11 story. I got into an argument with Bush hating anti war/anti globalization activists in San Francisco not to long ago who had their little booth out. I asked if they had any material on 9/11, and he said something like 'oh no, youre not one of those people'. And I was like 'You have all this anti Bush propaganda, but you buy his and the neocons every word of the official 9/11 story'. Fing hypocrites.

Here's what's wrong with Americans. A guy just said, on MSNBC, "In my parents' generation, it was 'Where were you when Kennedy got shot?' In my generation, it'll be 'Where were you when Chris Daughtry got booted off American Idol.'"

Who needs investigative reporting? Relax, we're all being heavily entertained/sedated.

pocky,

Truth denying Democrats are not being hypocrites. They are exercising their allegiance to the 2 party system. The mechanism that perpetuates the global cabal's control over U.S. politics.

They have no interest in truth, they worship the status quo. Even the Bush parameter of that status quo, because it makes them vital and necessary. And as long as they get their pendulum swing back this year and in '08, they couldn't care less if another false-flag attack happens, just so it's not blamed on a Democrat.

It's... all... just... theater.

There was no jumbo jet at the pentagon. it was a fake flight like the Pennsylvania one. The people they claim were on board faked their deaths, along with a bunch of people who supposedly died at the towers. Anyone who says flight 77 did not hit the pentagon is part of a disinfo campaign. the plane being tracked by Cheney (that Mineta testified about) was a false radar blip. In fact I always thought it was strange that Mineta would volunteer that story. Apparently it was to give the impression that there indeed was a plane and that there were stand down orders. There were no stand down orders. There were two jumbo jets, one at each tower and that's it. seeing these people go to such lengths to confuse the issues with websites that just popped up out of nowhere is proof that they are desperate. keep hammering away people--you know who you are--and we WILL win. we do not believe in absurd things like hologram or computer generated planes any more than we believe in disappearing jumbo jets that pierce 6 concrete walls before being vaporized and leaving shrunken plane parts.

i should say people did die at the towers, mainly firefighters and other rescuers, and the people who couldn't get out. many of the missing, though, are missing because they want to be. the real number of deaths is probably closer to 1500 than 3000.

ack, and i meant anyone who says that flight 77 DID hit the pentagon is part of a disinfo campaign, which I am now beginning to resemble unfortunately... :(

For all Truthers:

http://tinyurl.com/gof5u
http://tinyurl.com/epp82
http://tinyurl.com/jrj8h
http://tinyurl.com/eoqn3
http://tinyurl.com/zq3fs

For all Truthers:

http://tinyurl.com/gof5u
http://tinyurl.com/epp82
http://tinyurl.com/jrj8h
http://tinyurl.com/eoqn3
http://tinyurl.com/zq3fs
Kheiron
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Excellent exercise in recognizing disinformation bullshit, such as every one of those links. Thanks.

Yeah. "Pull" no longer means "demolish." Funny shit.

Until someone explains to me exactly what it is I'm seeing in the photos at www.911studies.com, I refuse to make any judgements regarding the pentagon. How can anyone look at that stuff and not even ask any questions? What are the whatsits? And what's the deal with the missing rail? And the green stripe of grass. And the SUV that changed colors? And the background changing size? If you don't know EXACTLY what I'm talking about then you haven't looked at that site closely enough. I felt like I was falling down another rabbit hole as I poured over those photos. And yet no one is talking about them. I find that rather strange.

" Until someone explains to me exactly what it is I'm seeing in the photos at www.911studies.com, I refuse to make any judgements regarding the pentagon."

The failure of many of you to acknowledge that the accumulated evidence shows AA77 hit the Pentagon is exactly what disinformation is all about.

You've got to get off of this line of thinking. There are no legitimate questions remaining concerning AA77. It hit the Pentagon. Period. Over and Out.

You are playing right into the hands of real disinfo agents like Nico Haupt who is quietly trying to establish legitimacy in this forum and associate you with his "there-were-no-planes" hokkum.

personally, i dont buy Nico or truthouts bullshit.