New Footage of 9/11 Pentagon Attack Released - Video Downloads

2 frames from new video from judicial watch

Earlier today Judicial Watch got their hands on a new video purported to show Flight 77 striking the Pentagon. The videos released were in response to their FOIA request. The two videos released are from Pentagon security cameras from roughly the same location. The first video is a longer segment of the 5 frames initially 'leaked' to CNN over a year ago, and the second video is from the same angle but a little bit closer.

Defense Department Releases September 11 Pentagon Video to Judicial Watch

Judicial Watch originally filed a Freedom of Information Act request on December 15, 2004, seeking all records pertaining to September 11, 2001 camera recordings of the Pentagon attack from the Sheraton National Hotel, the Nexcomm/Citgo gas station, Pentagon security cameras and the Virginia Department of Transportation. The Department of Defense admitted in a January 26, 2005 letter that it possessed a videotape responsive to Judicial Watch's request. However, the Pentagon refused to release the videotape because it was, "part of an ongoing investigation involving Zacarias Moussaoui." Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit on February 22, 2006 arguing that there was "no legal basis" for the Defense Department's refusal to release the tape.

"We fought hard to obtain this video because we felt that it was very important to complete the public record with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

"Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77. As always, our prayers remain with all those who suffered as a result of those murderous attacks."

Note that despite the section in bold above, only 2 videos were released.

Uncompressed Image sets
(there are more than just these frames in thh videos)

Judicial Watch: 1, 2,3,4,5
CNN: 1, 2,3,4,5

Video Downloads:

Fox News broadcast - 9MB WMV|MP4 -
Military video 1 ??MB MPG -
Military video 2 ??MB MPG -
Military video 1 ??MB WMV
Military video 2 ??MB WMV
Judicial Watch YouTube Streams
CNN Video Stream
CNN's Coverage Before Release - Video Stream -

Where's the media on Norman

Where's the media on Norman Mineta's testimony?

How convenient the 9/11 Commission "lost" his testimony that destroys the official timeline.

How is the FOIA thing? Is

How is the FOIA thing? Is this the only video they must release?

I have not taken sides in

I have not taken sides in the Flight 77 debate because there are too many unanswered questions. However, the video released today might as well be showing a missile as a plane. What an over-hyped bunch of nothing!!

Yup, the Judicial Watch

Yup, the Judicial Watch stream, Video 2, looks very much like a (relatively) small missile, and not a gigantic jumbo plane.

But the question regarding Pentagon is not really what hit it, but rather why it was *allowed* to hit the most secured building in these parts of the Galaxy.

After all, the US had been under attack for 1-2 hours already, had it not?

building a straw man.

building a straw man.

Personally, I think 9/11

Personally, I think 9/11 Truthers should forget the No-Boeing theory. Having said that, this video proves nothing. Do you mean to tell me that the most surveilled building in the world only captured the worst security breakdown in its history from a tiny camera located in the parking lot? What a farce.

I strongly advise everyone

I strongly advise everyone to remain cautious. Even if you think no Boeing hit the Pentagon, it will be too easy for the Pentagon to release Citgo or Sheraton videos showing a Boeing, which will undermine the 9/11 truth movement.

Please see:

Here here, GW.

Here here, GW.

I'm agnostic about Pentagon.

I'm agnostic about Pentagon. But still seems like the government has something to hide. Where is the video footage from the Citgo gas station, the Sheraton Hotel, and the Virginia Department of Transportation cameras?


i'm addicted to 9/11

i'm addicted to 9/11 Truth

I'm a 911Truthaholic, bitches.

And as Ian said , what is it

And as Ian said , what is it about these paltry frames is so dangerous, that we had to wait 5yrs and till after the patsy trial?Where's the rest.News agencies are running misleading headlines all over"Recently released videos of flight 77 hitting Pentagon"and such.

DSM: I am also agnostic

DSM: I am also agnostic about the Pentagon.

BUT ... thinking through it, I think that the only reason the gov would release these crappy videos now without releasing the Citgo/Sheraton vids is that the Citgo/Sheraton vids will show a Boeing clearly.

Put another way, would the folks who carried out the murder of 3,000 Americans shoot themselves in the foot by showing an iffy, grainy video and leave it at that? They've had 4 years to fake the video (hollywood can do it in a couple weeks or months).

Would all of the MSM bs outlets (including Fox) hype this as proof against 9/11 conspiracies?

NO. Its more likely they are doing a very smart Texas 2-step: bluff like this is the best they've got so we get all excited and say SEE NO PLANE!

Then they release vid which demolishes that argument and the 9/11 movement.

On the other hand, remaining cautious has no big downside. If the Citgo/Sheraton vids are equally crappy, then we can go to town on how they've said they have proof but the vids are worthless.

anybody see the ABC Evening

anybody see the ABC Evening News tonight? Micheal Berger from was on. he mentioned how this tape was "ambigious" which i agree with.ABC also said that "the victims families are OUTRAGED at conspiracy theorists". so yeah,it looks like they are playing the shame card on us again.

The Pentagon

The Pentagon claims(according to NBC News) it has no more videos of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon. i guess they lost the tapes from the Sheraton and the gas station huh? give me a fucking break.

Im with Alex Jones on this

Im with Alex Jones on this one. I think its a big strawman to later discredit the movement. They know the 9/11 truth movement is reaching critical mass, and this is the only thing they can do. People arent calling us kooks anymore like they used to.

I think Flight 77 did hit the pentagon, they are purposefully only showing these 'easily debatable' footage, only to reveal the hotel/gas station footage soon.

And for the first time, a mainstream media outlet talks in our language. Here is ABC talking about how many people believe 9/11 was an inside job, and they use our language of "LIHOP" and "MIHOP" in the article:

Folks, the government just f'd up. This is the MAIN news story of the day, and millions of Americans are suddenly going to say to themselves "People think theres a conspiracy theory about 9/11? Hey, wheres the plane?" Today's new footage just brought 9/11 Truth to the absolute mainstream and the discussion table.
With United 93 in theatres, the Moussasoui trial just ending, wiretaps all over the news, World Trade Center coming to theatres in August...AND the big 5 year anniversary in Sept...2006 will be known as the year 9/11 Truth hit critical mass.

Now is the time to make that blitzkrieg of knowlege be known to all our family, friends, school, internet, etc. Make them realize this isnt about conspiracy theories, but the quest for truth.

oh,and Judicial Watch says

oh,and Judicial Watch says we are all "insane" if we still think 9/11 was a government plot. as if this "video" is going to stop us. YOU CANT STOP US.

Chris, what you are saying

Chris, what you are saying is vitally important. Please provide the link to where the Pentagon claims(according to NBC News) it has no more videos of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon.

and again, i notice people

and again, i notice people keep bringing up the gas station and hotel footage. NBC just got done saying that those tapes dont exist, so take that for what its worth.

it was just on the Evening

it was just on the Evening News.about 10 minutes ago.

wow i AM IMPRESSED! This,


This, then, is the video that lays all conspiracy theories to rest?

The media don't know how to spin this!

This is so lame that some media may rightly dare to SAY WHAT THE STORY IS:

"We are being spoon fed some crap for idiots!"

it was wither ABC or NBC

it was wither ABC or NBC Evening NEws, im almost positive it was NBC though. check the tapes from both shows, they bopth talked about it. i dont think CBS even bothered.

holdup, michael berger was

holdup, michael berger was on abc news tonight!?

hes with 911truth and the creator of improbable collapse.. which was shipped yesterday i think.






Ian , hows it going on the

Ian , hows it going on the footage of the cnn reporter/cockpit pics?

holdup, michael berger was

holdup, michael berger was on abc news tonight!?

hes with 911truth and the creator of improbable collapse.. which was shipped yesterday i think.
dz | Homepage | 05.16.06 - 6:54 pm | #
yes he was, for a quick second. he said the tape proves nothing. i fully agree.

please note that we still

please note that we still have a second FOIA request active for the other 84 flight 77 recordings. we WILL get those also. they should include the citgo tape and the hotel tape.

People should help get the rest of these out, given that these are bogus.

I would like to have more

I would like to have more informations about the supposed Pentagon claim that they wouldnt have any other videos..

Did anyone notice in the CNN

Did anyone notice in the CNN video, that next to the left tan box is a small pole that is broken off. Then after the crash of what ever, there is a car that goes by the building and in one frame the light pole is partially there and then in the next frame it is all there.

Does anyone besides me find it odd that a light pole shows up after the item hit the Pentagon, rather than being destroyed by the crash????

RemoveBush, I think that is


I think that is a security gate.

RemoveBush, I think that is


I think that is a security gate.
It is conected to the tan box. Look at the shadow.

Ian , hows it going on the

Ian , hows it going on the footage of the cnn reporter/cockpit pics?
Colin | 05.16.06 - 6:59 pm | #

I haven't been able to find any contact info on Jamie McIntyre. But I did email Kyra Phillips (she's the one who interviewed him) and asked her to "confirm or deny" that McIntyre actually has these photos.

I haven't heard anything back (and i don't expect either.) But here's where you can reach her if anyone else wants to contact her:

Those videos show and prove

Those videos show and prove absolutely nothing! Round and round we go.

So the videos were just

So the videos were just stupid replays of nothing. What does that tell us? That those at the DoD want conspiracy nuts to keep looking like nuts so that average Americans and people who can think critically will understand they should stay away from anyone questioning the official version of 9/11

But beyond all that, the real question for those still saying that they know that Flight 77 didnÂ’t hit the Pentagon is, what evidence WOULD be enough?


Applying logic to the forensic evidence, examining the eyewitness statements of a commercial jet approaching and crashing (made consistently from many different types of people, not just military or media, as some would like you to believe), and considering the actual implications of trying to fire a missile or bring a drone military aircraft into a major urban center without being noticed by anyone, does not rule out Flight 77, but indeed supports the case for it.

Those who portend to know what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11 - a missile! a drone! - have a strong vested interest in their belief that Flight 77 could not have crashed there. They will call ANY videos that come out fakes -- even if they are real and crystal clear, unlike today's -- and work hard to show that no matter what is put forth by official sources, they only support the idea for ‘no plane.’

At a certain point, the evidence is undeniable. And we've already passed that point.

Could the military fake some videos? Sure.

But did they?

We donÂ’t know.

But folks, its a lot easier to fake a video than it is a crash.

HereÂ’s what the story would have to have been:

· Witnesses for a several square miles radius were all planted to tell fake stories about seeing a commercial jet crash.

· Hundreds of witnesses from all different angles and locations were unable to tell the difference between a missile and a 757!!! Yet, the 12 or so witnesses who saw the C-130 at the scene were able to identify that as a military plane and some even named exactly what type of plane it was.

· Anyone inside the building who saw the approaching 'missile' or 'drone' aircraft was also willing to fake their story.

· Chance witnesses at the scene – in nearby buildings, out on the highway, over at the gas station, etc. - who did actually see the 'missile' or military 'drone' plane were all tracked down and told to lie, or were hushed up in some other way.

· Phone calls from the plane were all faked.

· Passengers either did not exist or were killed elsewhere.

· Plane parts matching a 757 were burned and smashed and then planted at the scene.

· Passengers’ family members are all fake or don’t know that their loved ones were killed elsewhere.

· Lampposts were pulled down with wires or other means and smashed on top of cars to make it look like the plane came through there, suggesting all the people on the highway were also intelligence agency plants to act like they saw the lampposts come down from the plane, and not by wires.

· Some blurry, grainy long-distance surveillance videos were - GASP! - faked!!

Ask yourself, what, if any evidence, could ever add up to Flight 77 hitting there by those that are already sure it didn't, given this list?

Nothing. Every single piece of evidence can be declared ‘fake.’

At a certain point, when science and logic are discarded for a system of beliefs which does not require evidence, we are talking about religious or political beliefs, not forensic evidence and reality.


Wow...ABC news covering

Wow...ABC news covering Zwicker too and that excellent statement he made that nothing should have been able to get to the Pentagon.

flight 77 did not hit the

flight 77 did not hit the pentagon - something much smaller hit the pentagon.

no marks on the lawn
no airplane parts except a few suspicous pieces
impossible manuever for a terrible pilot

first cnn reporter reported that there was no sign of an aircraft - how many big jet crashes have happened and not left underwear, magazines, body parts, etc . . .

trust your eyes - don't let others tell you what to see.

Thanx Ian, Jamie seems like

Thanx Ian, Jamie seems like the kind of guy that will flip his story once again when it's crunch-time.

Wow RemoveBush.. that was

Wow RemoveBush.. that was crazy.. good observation!

At 1:09 of the CNN stream a light pole gets erected in a coule seconds as a cop car drives by... that is frickin' weird!

yeah I think you guys are

yeah I think you guys are right.. probably a security gate...

Definitely a security gate,

Definitely a security gate, imho.

T-Bone, your correct! Thanks

T-Bone, your correct!

Thanks for the input!

This is an act of

This is an act of desperation or a set up. Tread lightly people.

More obfuscation by our own

More obfuscation by our own goverment. These people are supposed to be working for us. I am beyond outraged!

This is unbelievable. They

This is unbelievable. They release yet another crappy video from the same damn location. The funny thing is I actually guessed it would be from the same angle, as sort of a joke to myself. Well the joke's definately on me.

bright flash = micro nuke =

bright flash = micro nuke = vapourize evidence

Somebigguy says: "This is

Somebigguy says: "This is an act of desperation or a set up. Tread lightly people."

I agree. This is the first time I can remember that I'm convinced a lay-low attitude will be best, and that any strong positions one way or the other will just bite us in the collective ...

I am impartial! Take that

I am impartial!

Take that main-stream media!

Somebigguy , I'm going with

Somebigguy , I'm going with 'act of desperation', although I have nothing invested in the Pentagon video either way.Judicial Watch should be flooded with angry emails for this.Another whitewash organization.Where do they get these guys.Next we'll find out that the head of Judicialwatch, is actually Dick Cheney's love child.

" Somebigguy says: "This is

" Somebigguy says: "This is an act of desperation or a set up. Tread lightly people."

It's a setup. The media is running with it: "The new video is probably not enough to satisfy 9/11 conspiracy theorists." Over and over and over.

"9/11 conspiracy theorists."

So for those who are saying they are not "taking sides" or "tread lightly", this is where it's gotten you. You are all lumped together.

Wake up guys. Commit. It's time to fish or cut bait!

why this? Why this? I agree

why this? Why this?
I agree with GW, I think they are setting up a straw man.
But its really an emotional straw man not a logical or rational straw man. There focus is always on the audience not the stage.
They allow the thought an inside 911 conspiracy to take hold with these lame videoes.
That horrible feeling that comes with realizing our government might be directly involved and covering it up begins to surface just a little in the audience.
We all become 911 Truthers for a moment, even the MSM.
Its a scary and insecure feeling, a mixture of rage, impotence, and doubt about their world view.
Then they relieve all of this anguish with a real, or faked, videos of a plane hitting the pentagon.
They are offered a taste of the uncertainty of revealing 911, and then they are reassured.
They will remember those feelings and project their uncomfortable rage on the 911 Truthers who continue to remind them of that horrible feeling and doubt they temporarily held.
Then its time to move on.

Thus WE need to take this opportuity to cram the audience with all of the other legitimate questions about 911.

(Just some thoughts)

Watched BBC coverage of the

Watched BBC coverage of the story.

Same thing, with the repetition of 'conspiricy theorists' and the fact that we are a 'minority group'.

I know people think this is a double bluff, but im starting to think that the gov'munt really have nothing left to pull out of the bag.

I mean, that video DOESNT SHOW A PLANE. If it were a plane, it would fill the entire screen.

Now, I know some are concerned that the no-planers will be the death of us and that the pentagon will produce new tapes showing an undenyable commercial jet hitting, but if this 'new' (I cant believe they can get away with pretending this is new footage. every story "pentagon releases new footage" - this shit is LOLD) footage is genuine, I dont see how a commercial het could have hit it. What it shows is a small jet or a missile.

What if theyre not fucking with us? What if weve actually got em on the ropes, and this is a desperate attempt to solidify support for the offical version, by producing doesnts of headline repetitions of 'new footage proves conspircy theorists wrong' and lies of that nature.

Could be. I still don't know what to think on the pentagon. Just seems to me that if a commercial airliner did hit it we would have seen a PIC of the plain NEAR the building by now. The fact that we havnt is just plain fucking insanity.

edit: for some reason i

edit: for some reason i wrote 'plane' as 'plain'. forgive.

I don't know about you guys,

I don't know about you guys, but I feel empowered knowing the truth, even if we do not know all of the details. I feel special and thankful that I have the ability to recognize the lies. It is strange because years ago, before 9/11, I made a statement to my, soon to be wife at the time, that I felt a strong sense in me that God has Big plans for me in the future. Yes, I am a Christian. After going through the process of excepting that the government was not telling the truth regarding 9/11 I found out what those big plans were. It is very clear to me now and I can't stop. Even if people look at me as a kook, I don't care, because I know I speak the truth. The truth has set me free. Now it is my responsibility to inform those of my church and faith the truth.

For easy reference I posted

For easy reference I posted the crucial stills:

To me the bright flash is a SURE SIGN of military explosives.

Jet Fuel doesn't go BANG!

love the religious angle

love the religious angle T-Bone. im not religious myself, so im at a loss as to why many religious people vote for scumbags like Bush because he hates gays and abortion, yet at the same time he(they) is responsible for the deaths of hundrends of thousands of people. i see anti-abortion protestors on the side of the road sometimes and ask them "why not protest a war that is based on lies that is causing people to die by the truckloads as we speak?" no answer. as far as 9/11, i suspect the religious community is no different than much of mainstream america. if CNN and Time magazine dont report on it, it didnt happen. they believe the lie because its all they see.

Judicial Watch is a

Judicial Watch is a conservative watchdog group. i repeat, Judicial Watch is a conservative watchdog group. sounds like an oxymoron doesnt it?

Chris, I am a trusted member


I am a trusted member of my church and very well known being a former memeber of our praise band. You are right that many Christians blindly follow Bush because he calls himself a Christian. I am praying that when I confront the pastor this week, he will agree to show 9/11 Revisited to the church. I will then press for the church to orginize an outreach to the community and try to have more screenings. I want to create a domino effect that will reach other churches in the community. In the bible, justice is a common theme. The Lord loves justice and there is no greater justice in todays world than exposing 9/11.

Go, T-Bone, go!!! Here's

Go, T-Bone, go!!!

Here's ammunition for you:

Thanks GW. Actually, you

Thanks GW. Actually, you were my inspiration.

Here's my end-of-the-day

Here's my end-of-the-day take on the Pentagon vids:

T-Bone, David Ray Griffin


David Ray Griffin and Kevin Barrett have both told me that individual outreache to churches (and temples and mosques) is a very important aspect of 9/11 work.

So keep up the great work!!!

Here's my end-of-the-day

Here's my end-of-the-day take on the Pentagon vids:

Interestingly enough, a few

Interestingly enough, a few months back my church had a presentation from a guy who investigated the "Shroud of Turin" and at the end of the presentation he had a questions and answer session. A little background on the presenter, he was on of the guys who back in the 70's was part of the team that actually got to examine the shroud for the first time. He had done numerous interviews for the History Channel, The Learning Channel, and Discovery. I told him that I had seen one of those programs that debunked the shroud (he is a believer of the authenticity of the shroud after the scientific analysis) on the History Channel. He then told the entire church, "Maybe this is a very good reason not to believe everything you hear on those channels." It was almost like he was planting a seed for me to get them to accept 9/11 truth. We will see.

good luck T-Bone.

good luck T-Bone.

T-Bone, For your audience


For your audience especially, and for every audience, I recommend this DVD of David Ray Griffin at Madison. This DVD has nice graphic overlays, several camera angles to keep the eye action lively, and pans over the audience of several hundred now and then. A quality DVD of this Christian theologian's fabulous hour-long presentation on C-Span with 20 minutes' Q&A.

GeorgeWashington, If this


If this church thing works at my church, do you think you could help get Griffin to do a presentation at my church?

T-Bone, I could ask him.

T-Bone, I could ask him. Where do you live?

After 4 1/2 years of waiting

After 4 1/2 years of waiting for these videos, I think it's a forgone conclusion that extracting any truth from the Pentagon crash is a moot point. Do we really believe that the Government is actually going to release video evidence raw and unscrubbed. Add to this mix, the media machine: watching Fox's version of this release bordered on the hilarious with the obvious 'plant' discussing visible nose cones et al. We are never going to see the 'real' other videos and I think we should accept that. Keep something in mind, the powers behind the grand deception are capable of pulling off the perfect crime. I shudder to think what would happen if these 'rat's' we're suddenly backed into a corner. 3000 people died in a single morning. Let's accept that and try to keep it from happening again.

Thanks FrankV. I had been

Thanks FrankV. I had been looking for a better fromat of his presentation. I feel I have to choose the content very carefully with this crowd. 9/11 Revisited was all I could come up with since it stays away from Bush did it, or NEW WORLD ORDER's gonna get ya!

GW, San Diego, CA Fetzer has


San Diego, CA

Fetzer has done a presentation at SDSU.

I'll check back in a few

I'll check back in a few hours, gotta close up shop, grocery shopping, and fix dinner for the wife. God Bless all (even if you don't believe in God) ;)

T-Bone, you are good

T-Bone, you are good company, in good company. It is an honor to share this journey with you.

A couple cool videos for everyone;

Bush at Booker, what if?

911 Motion Graphic

GW, Thats a great essay on

Thats a great essay on suggestions for responding to todays events. I hope they post this essay on this blog, for further constructive debate.

ya, i like our new blogger

ya, i like our new blogger buddy T-bone!!!!

i dont believe in god but im all for using god to get the truth to people... plus, hes from my home town... lol..

t-bpne, i dont know any of those guys but i called my buddy down there and he does.. how about alex fritz, you know him??? or sara and lisa fritz???

which church is yours, the little white one or the one on midland rd????

I just don't flipping see

I just don't flipping see it. How does that crap explain an airliner hitting the pentagon? I thought when this day came they would have had something compelling. I would have fallen for a story that an advanced weapon system at the pentagon deployed and that was the reason no trace of 77 was found. This is a defeat for them.

Terrific! Now we get even

Terrific! Now we get even more useless "footage", showing clear signs of doctoring (with respect to the couple of frames showing the "plane"). Of course, the real footage from the hotel and gas station is nowhere to be seen, which would clearly confirm that a 757 crashed into the Pentagon. IMHO, this appears to be an attempt to get even more skeptics to buy the bunk that something other than a 757 crashed into the Pentagon. When enough people in 9/11 Truth accept this fraud, only then will the real footage be released, showing the 757 in its full glory- completely discrediting the movement in one fell swoop. At least that's what I would do if I were one of the conspirators.

Please, people, let's stick to what we DO know, rather than what we DON'T. Hundreds of eyewitnesses reported:

(a) hearing explosions at the WTC
(b) seeing a jumbo jet hit the Pentagon

If you're citing the first group of eyewitnesses to make a claim regarding controlled demolition at the WTC, then you *CANNOT* dismiss the second group of eyewitnesses who saw a 757 strike the Pentagon. If that were ever done in a courtroom, the case in question would be immediately dismissed. After all, consistency in one's arguements is one of the key tenets of the criminal justice system. If you change your story several times (*cough* *cough* 9/11 Commission *cough*), or assign a premium to one set of eyewitnesses, while simultaneously discounting another group of eyewitnesses whom you choose not to believe (*cough* *cough* Bush Regime *cough*), then your credibility is worth absolutely nothing.

Remember, the fight for 9/11 Truth is a *WAR*. Make no mistake about it. And how are wars won? By choosing the individual battles of the war very carefully. You attack weakly defended positions (such as the collapses of WTC 7, and the two towers) and avoid strongly defended positions (such as the attack on the Pentagon).

The official storytellers are doing their damndest to keep the focus on the Pentagon, where they're holding all the cards- and away from the building collapses, where their defense is nothing more than a house of cards. Don't let them steer 9/11 Truth to the Pentagon. Keep it at the WTC. Otherwise, this war will surely be won by the official storytellers and their conspiratorial backers.
[Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11]
[The Pentagon No-757-Crash Theory:
Booby Trap for 9/11 Skeptics]
[Released video frames show evidence of tampering]
[Hundreds of witnesses- both military and civilian- saw a 757 hit the Pentagon]

It is the aftermath that is

It is the aftermath that is compelling. We can do calculations on the energy of the fireballs. Notionally there is no way they can account for the dissolution of an 80 ton plus aircraft. I go back to Jamie McIntyre's reporting on 9/11. Initially he said there is no evidence a 757 crashed here. Later on he is happy and chirpy. He is going on about the profoundly destructive powers of kerosene (jetfuel). He was fed a line and went with it. Anyone with reason knows this is a new line - eat it or not.

Baraka, great post. AOL is

Baraka, great post.

AOL is showing a sub-headline which reads "video shows jet his Pentagon."

This is not widely known,

This is not widely known, but I thought I'd point out that the original video is on the DoD website, which is of better quality than the YouTube versions:

Check out how the links are buried on the page.

Inside, If you're still out


If you're still out there. FBC Poway is my church. Sort of near Wal-Mart on Midland. I didn't know the Fritz twins personally, but I graduated with them.

Ooops. That was

Ooops. That was me.


If you're still out there. FBC Poway is my church. Sort of near Wal-Mart on Midland. I didn't know the Fritz twins personally, but I graduated with them.
Anonymous | 05.17.06 - 12:16 am |

I found the tone of this

I found the tone of this discussion to be very encouraging! Guys, good attitude.

"Micro Nuke"

Well except for that of course. ;)

(my comments here, I agree with those who say this is a set-up: )

"What if theyre not fucking with us?"

Not impossible, but highly unlikely. Caution, at the very least, is advised.

t-bone, my best friends

t-bone, my best friends funeral was at your church..

HAHA!!! i was at your graduation... small world...

we need a board where we can pm...

"Just seems to me that if a

"Just seems to me that if a commercial airliner did hit it we would have seen a PIC of the plane NEAR the building by now. The fact that we havnt is just plain fucking insanity. The fact that we havnt is just plain fucking insanity."

All of the other debates about the Pentagon aside, you're entirely right that this FACT is insane. There is no reasonable justification for it.

UK truther here....... new

UK truther here....... new footage does not show a plane hitting the pentagon.... pure and simple. I have researched a great deal on the events on 9/11 and like millions of others worldwide believe we are not being told the truth. I am not sure if it was an inside job, or it was an inspired Al Queada plot, but there are so many damned unanswered questions why can't they just release footage of the plane hitting the pentagon and clear this matter up. What I do believe is the government is more than happy that everyones attention is focused on the pentagon, while for me, the real questions they should be facing are about events that happened in New York that day. Keep up the good work everyone!

I found it sad that Amy

I found it sad that Amy Goodman on Democracy Now today simply announced the release of video and stated that it showed the plane striking the building. They didn't even show the footage!

If Democracy Now swallows the Pentagon's statement on the content of the video without examination be assured so will every other media outlet that discusses it.

Yesterday, May 16th on CNN's

Yesterday, May 16th on CNN's "The Situation Room". They where showing the new video releases of the Pentagon parking lot videos. At one point on the show they had Jamie Mcintyre on air, He's the reporter who was recorded in front of the Pentagon on 911 saying he could see no evidence of a plane colliding with the Pentagon. Yesterday he stated that the footage of him in the movie "Loose Change" was taken out of context and that he was really talking about another question that was asking if he saw any wreckage of a plane somewhere around the pentagon, not the actual collision. Thus making it appear he was saying there was not evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon. However, I found a link showing the whole clip and he clearly says in one closing sentence that he sees no evidence of plane hitting the Pentagon. This clip was quickly taken off line when service provider cancelled their service. I would like to know if the "Situation Room" was recorded on May 16th and if anyone can provide a web video file of his apparent lies. And does anyone have the newly missing video file of him making his statement on 911. These two video files need to reside next to each other on the net. Or inserted into Loose change 3. It's clear that the major media is playing a part in the 911 coverup. This is undeniable proof Mr. Mcintyre is telling two different tales. Does that make him and the other news anchors traders as well? We need to find both these clips!!!! What made him tell a blatant and provable lie?

I'm new to this site and I'm

I'm new to this site and I'm sure this issue has been discussed a thousand times before. But I want to know why we don't here more about building 7 being demolished on purpose. Larry Silverstein said in an interview that he gave permission "to pull" building number 7 in fear that more lives would be lost from the burning building.( It takes weeks to plan a demolition of that size and somehow they did it in a few hours amongst all the chaos, the building burning and everything else that was going on. That's simply immpossible, call me ignorant or close minded but the fact that that building was proven to be demolished and not burned down like fema put in there report and it fell in the same way as the 1st two towers is eveidence enough for me. Not to mention all the other facts out there.

Adam, Ask the mainstream


Ask the mainstream media who haven't shown WTC7 footage a single time on television since 9/11, and then ask the 9/11 Commission report who didn't even mention that a 3rd building of 47 stories collapsed on 9/11.

I kind of worded what I said

I kind of worded what I said wrong. I kind of ment why don't we hear about it more from people on our side of the issue. for example in "Loose Change" it wasn't even mentioned. I think it's a bigger issue that got lost in the mainstream media along with our "underground media" or whatever ya want to call it.

I tried all last night to

I tried all last night to get the better copy of that video from It was downloading at ~33 kb/sec and gradually dropped lower and lower to ~800 bytes/sec, a snail's pace. Today it won't even start downloading, even though it connects to their server just fine. The rest of their site is lightning fast. Some FOIA compliance...

are these people think we

are these people think we are stupid to believe that that is flight 77????????????

What's so difficult for

What's so difficult for everybody to understand? They were planning this over forty years ago, ya think maybe they might have got it down a little bit better in those forty years?

Operation Northwood:

8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.

a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be subsituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the inter national distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by the destruction of aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow IACO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident.

Anyone notice that the 911 airplanes disappeared from radar for a while after the transponders stopped?

For christ's sake, Davis Copperfield made a 747 disappear in front of a thousand people.


New uk Blogger here...I

New uk Blogger here...I would like to make a point about the news coverage..anchors can not editorialise, they can only run with what they are as such is just spoon fed control of the masses..the news channels will never step off thier line..unless thier superiors are removed...we are caught in a network of complete control.

yea isnt it great that we

yea isnt it great that we the americans "land of the free home of the brave" could do this. you know

It shouldn't be too hard to

It shouldn't be too hard to analyze/ calculate that funny "nosetip"'s size & its distance from "Pentalawn".

By naked eye it doesn't look to me like a 757's nose, & it's too
close to the ground but... see above.