Updated Comments on Professor Steven Jones's Research Paper

Comments regarding Prof. Jones’ "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?"

Dr. Jones has added a good bit more feedback which he has received in response to his paper Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?. Everything after response #10 is new.

Here is a sample:

I have just watched the interview with Steven Jones and read the follow up blog article. By way of introduction, I am a Ph.D. mathematician and worked for a number of years at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico. I mention this only to indicate that I may not be a park-dwelling writer of messages in crayon. I, too, am surprised that a mainstream news source took notice of Prof. Jones' article and had the courage to bring him on air. However, the interview was far too short to allow Prof. Jones to adequately defend his position with which I am largely in agreement.

I found Prof. Jones' paper one of the best expositions on the matter since it deals entirely with the scientific evidence that strongly suggests the official account of the "collapse" of the WTC towers is in error. I also side with Prof. Jones in his call for the release of all available physical evidence to be applied to a serious and independent investigation to help resolve this matter.

For myself, and I am sure for many others, wrestling with the 9-11 issues has been difficult and, at times, painful. I am appalled at the suggestion that those who disbelieve the official account of 911 events should want to leave the country. It is, rather, our duty as citizens of this country to work calmly and patiently for a truthful rendering of those events and for a proper redress of grievances if the official account is indeed in error.

Did our founding fathers run

Did our founding fathers run when the king threatened them? Hell no. Take a lesson from history.

"The most effectual means of preventing the perversion of power into tyranny is to illuminate the minds of the people at large, and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts which history exhibits."
- Thomas Jefferson -

"Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the numbers of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it."
- Patrick Henry -

Patriots don't run to Canada

Jones' also added a lot more

Jones' also added a lot more evidence. (His paper now at draft version 6.1.)

Check out the new pictures of metal dripping from the towers.

also, wikipedia has an

also, wikipedia has an extensive list of mainstream media articles covering Jones' 9/11 work:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones

sorry i didnt get 'Take Back

sorry i didnt get 'Take Back 9/11' converted and posted tonight.. i at least got it in the header at the top of the page, and it is converting overnight.

Anyone know if any traces of

Anyone know if any traces of explosive have been found on clothing worn on that day , or on site? The dripping , spraying ,molten metal (thermate)was a powerful image .One that often catches the eye of a casual observer.

Thanks for the up-date on

Thanks for the up-date on "Take Back 9/11" dz. I suggest all 9/11 truthers watch this video. I will repeat this vido is the best yet and is bullet-proof. No pods, no holograms just the facts. If, after watching this flick you still believe the so-called "Official Story" you are either brain dead or a Bush shill.

From the WinWord DOC

From the WinWord DOC "debunking" document that will accompany the LC2 screening at the UK Parliament:

(page 54) The explosion certainly wasn’t a “bright silvery flash. ....

Nope. A giant orange fireball.

The video released today

DEBUNKS THE DEBUNKER

Re: DEBUNKING the

Re: DEBUNKING the debunkers

(please take this seriously!!)

THE original WINWORD document

better in HTML:

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

There was a brilliant bright flash.

http://www.911blogger.com/files/images/new77/new77cnn_3.jpg

McMedia is spinning

http://news.google.com/news?q=%22CONSPIRACY%20THEORISTS&scoring=d

To all those who wonder why

To all those who wonder why more engineers don't come out publicly.

Below is a copy of one the correspondences. It an extremely revealing glimpse of how the 'real world' works to manipulate and prevent the truth from coming out.
They work like a diplomatic mafia. RP

. From a mechanical engineer with ‘government contacts’, sent to Prof Jones and BYU administrators:

[Nov. 2005, shortly after Prof. Jones’ article first appeared on the web] "The publication of this [Jones] article can be stopped on the basis of endangerment, and I have the contacts to make this happen if necessary, but I prefer to give you the opportunity to consider the consequences - which you have not addressed. You need to give this very serious consideration. [Endangerment to whom? The current administration?] This is an issue that is more important than any individual career, [I think he means Dr. Jones’ career] or whether or not you believe that you are correct. …The molten metal may be the best evidence that local conditions in the fire where [sic] hotter than the post-test evaluation of specific points… your theories are likely to be subject to intense scrutiny and criticism. As painful as it may seem now, perhaps it may be less painful than could occur after publication."

[Nov. 2005, after responses by Prof. Jones]: "The North Tower "squibs" [Jones discusses in his paper] are more interesting and deserve more attention because they are quite similar to the material ejected from the Southwark Towers shown at Implosionworld.com/cinema.htm."

[Dec. 2005, following answers and detailed responses by Prof. Jones]: "IÂ… have learned to appreciate the value of silence, even in the case of superior data and informationÂ…. [He seems to be telling Dr. Jones to shut up!] There are, perhaps, several reasons why the administration [at BYU] would pay more particular attention to me than to you in this matter. First, you made many assertions without the least amount of analysis to support your assertionsÂ… [Prof. Jones challenged this comment!]

"I regret that you are still trying to publish your paper. The fact that a paper passes peer review and is accepted for publication should not be viewed as validation of ideas unless the peer reviewers are really qualified to perform the peer review.

"In contrast to studying things that could cause harm, the whole focus could be changed to something that is assured to prevent harmÂ… Maybe a low velocity rocket fired from a helicopter could disperse fire retardants on a floor that can't be reached otherwise. Even if explosives are planted, this makes it much more difficult to cause the collapse of the building. If this interests you, I would be happy to contact Tom Hunter and the Head of Homeland Security to see if funding for BYU could be found to research options for this purpose.

Again, I am sorry for the difficulty of this interaction."

[end of Dec., 2005]: "Steven: I have recently given some thought to how I can help you preserve your good name at BYU. My intent is to show that I have as much concern for your well being as I have in preserving the safety and security of others.

 

"It is better to demonstrate that structural collapse can be prevented than to show how or why structures may be collapsed. Toward this goal, I have recently had some ideas that may be inexpensive, passive, light weight and effective against attack by both fire and explosives. [A rather detailed outline for a suggested grant proposal follows, snip…] 

 

"The concept is patentable, could be easily applied during construction (beneath facia), could be required by building codes, and has a potentially large market. Naturally, research is required to define the required thicknesses, attachment in a way that preserves existing fire protection, and attachment in a way that is difficult to remove without obvious alterations. It could even be added as a decorative feature in existing buildings.

 

"Perhaps you may come up be different or better ideas, but it suggests a course of action that protects others, rather than put them at risk. It could bring substantial resources to BYU, and could involve a cooperative effort between the structural design group and physics department. This would give you the opportunity to address your explosive ideas without having to capitulate, while improving the resistance of the structure to collapse by fire. It also generates a project that could bring the various departments together in a cooperative effort. Naturally, you are most likely to achieve the greatest success in such an effort if you change course, rather than continue to pursue your present effortÂ…" [Is this some sort of bribe? The reader can judge for her/himself the statements and tactics used by this man with "contacts." Note that his comments and efforts to thwart publication of the Jones paper did not succeed, but may have influenced the statement by the BYU Fulton College of Engineering which follows.]

pr, that is very creepy...

pr, that is very creepy... sound like a bribe and a threat if you ask me...

i mean RP.. sorry..

i mean RP.. sorry..

It is creepy in its Owellian

It is creepy in its Owellian double speak.
Its no longer, " The truth will set you free."

Now its, " The truth will put all of us in grave danger"

(not so subliminal message) ".........and you don't want to do that....I thought you wanted to help people not hurt them.....ignore the truth if you really want to help people, and I'll throw in some tangible rewards for your career, your family finances....You do care about your reputation and family don't you...then join us."

Its more than creepy....its like the devil himself. But it works on alot of people, especially those in positions of power.

It is creepy in its Owellian

It is creepy in its Owellian double speak.
Its no longer, " The truth will set you free."

Now its, " The truth will put all of us in grave danger"

(not so subliminal message) ".........and you don't want to do that....I thought you wanted to help people not hurt them.....ignore the truth if you really want to help people, and I'll throw in some tangible rewards for your career, your family finances....You do care about your reputation and family don't you...then join us."

Its more than creepy....its like the devil himself. But it works on alot of people, especially those in positions of power.
Radical Pragmatist | 05.17.06 - 10:46 am | #

im with you rp... im not sure what id do if i was jones... shit myself maybe???

ive know in my head that this type of shit was going on but had never seen a letter like this... i dont even want to say how fucked i think this is...

do you have a link to

do you have a link to this???

Inside, Its about two

Inside,
Its about two letters down in the 'Steve Jones responses" link at the top of the this blog post.

I might add they would use subtle personal threats in exposing personal details of his life that might effect his career or his family, if they had them.
The NSA is making sure they find them.
Look what they did to Martin Luther KIng.
New World Order......Same Old Shit!!!!
Its coercion / manipulation 101

When I see an over-inusred

When I see an over-inusred shyster on video saying that he and the Fire Dept. "pulled-it", I know there is much more to WTC-7 than the "official story" tells us!

BTW, Prof. Jones is a great man!

thanks rp, im slow... ill

thanks rp, im slow... ill read the others later and show my friends...

rp, im with you 100% and thats the great thing about jones and DRG... the are sooo clean that no one can attack them...