'Bin Laden' tapes & 9/11 conspiracies

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THE LASTEST alleged bin Laden tape raises even more questions regarding the "official version" of 9/11.

Why would bin Laden wait until immediately after Moussaoui's sentencing to proclaim his innocence? Why do we never hear anything regarding the actual process by which these tapes are authenticated?

Are we to accept the word of the same intelligence authorities who assured us of the presence of WMDs in Iraq? Perhaps the tapes should be analyzed by independent experts before expecting the repeatedly duped American population to accept these findings at face value.

I find it particularly odd that "bin Laden" goes out of his way to take full responsibility for 9/11 here when he made such a point of categorically denying his involvement immediately following the attacks.

But the emphasis on "bin Laden's" claim of responsibility does start to make a bit more sense when you realize that these alleged tapes have appeared remarkably soon after the Pentagon video that clearly proved it was a missile that hit its wall on 9/11, and not a commercial airliner.

But this is all nonsense, of course, after all: Why would the Bush administration intentionally mislead the public about anything so important as matters regarding war and peace?

Richard Margolin
Hoboken, N.J.

Thanks to Bart (said like Homer) for this submission.

Philly and The Delware

Philly and The Delware Valley Strikes again! :)

im just not happy about the pentagon comment

"But the emphasis on "bin

"But the emphasis on "bin Laden's" claim of responsibility does start to make a bit more sense when you realize that these alleged tapes have appeared remarkably soon after the Pentagon video that clearly proved it was a missile that hit its wall on 9/11, and not a commercial airliner."

W... T... F...?

On Sunday, it was reported

On Sunday, it was reported that 45% of America said they suspected that people in Government, "consciously allowed or helped facilitate their (the 9/11 attacks) success", and the next day, Osama Bin Laden tells us that can't be, "because I was responsible for entrusting the 19 brothers -- Allah have mercy upon them -- with those raids."

The Zogby Poll was probably the main influence behind the Osama Tape.

I think his point was that

I think his point was that the PTB had to reinforce the Osama myth after that video that was released once again provided no absolute evidence of 77 or even an airliner hitting the Pentagon.

Anothe Bush shakeup. Snow

Anothe Bush shakeup. Snow quit and Bush appoints Paulson. http://news.yahoo.com/fc/US/Bush_Administration .........

I'd rather have the media to

I'd rather have the media to take an extreme point of view then no point of view at all.

The whole lot of them should

The whole lot of them should be removed in my opinion.

Different puppet, same strings, know what I mean?

i thought it was "eat my

i thought it was "eat my shorts"?

Be careful about definitely

Be careful about definitely saying a “missile” hit the Pentagon.

On the same topic, a large blow-up of the video was made of whatever it was that struck the Pentagon a few days after the latest video was released. The still pic looked very much like a Sky Warrior plane, and the site also provided a pic of an A3 SkyWarrior for comparison. (It may have been a U.K. site, I'm not sure.)
IÂ’ve recently searched everywhere for this pic, but I canÂ’t find it. Does anyone have a link???

The entire LC2 Sky Warrior

The entire LC2 Sky Warrior claim (which I once believed) is based on a single piece of evidence. Read http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml and tell me if you think it's accurate to claim the piece didn't come from a 757.

"The whole lot of them

"The whole lot of them should be removed in my opinion."

YUP!

What was that Jefferson said about (bloodshed &) revolution every 25 years? ;>)

Our democracy is broke and needs fixingÂ…
It doesn't matter if you vote Dem or a Rep. the controlling elements of each party are rife with corruption, and prostrate to corporate interests/agenda.

These folks arenÂ’t going to give up their places at the money/power trough without a fight.

The MSM always talks about

The MSM always talks about the missile theory and never mentions the Skywarrior
theory which causes a lot of damage.

There are a lot of people suspicious about the pentagon but all they here from the MSM is the missile theory which they dismiss because we obviously see some debris and then they dismiss every other evidence about 911.

Also important to

Also important to mention:
There were definitely some false eye-witnesses at the Pentagon: They claimed the Boeing would have touched their car antenna, or that they would have seen the passengers' faces through the 757 windows.
It's therefore impossible to say how many of the witnesses to the 757, if not all, were lying.

watching it all happen and

watching it all happen and realising what is going on, i find it really sickening! May has been quite a show!

on one hand the new Pentagon footage, Osamas confession, the MacBeth statement and the Capitol farce.

on the other hand we have the Zogby poll, the Haditha scandal, rumsfeld caught lying... again and again and children in Guantanamo!

i cant help but always having some extra information in the back of my mind... whenever i hear the latest world news:
911 and ALL its issues...
no WMD in iraq, inocent children in gaza, oil $$$ oil $$$ oil $$$, religion-crashes, al-cia-da, the federal reserve and so much much more...

i cant believe it is all actually happening and so many people dont know sh!t about all this. all they care is about seems to be their food and 3 relatives, tv and their new car...

marvellous how they keep the show running. the best commercialised idea of the millenium by the neo-cons!

i wonder how long it will take for the people to make an end to all this marvellous crap. hope it wont take as long a couple of decades ago!

wow did he actually use the

wow did he actually use the word missile? i propose another spirited round of butt and rebutt on the subject!

>> Also important to

>> Also important to mention:
There were definitely some false eye-witnesses at the Pentagon: They claimed the Boeing would have touched their car antenna, or that they would have seen the passengers' faces through the 757 windows.
It's therefore impossible to say how many of the witnesses to the 757, if not all, were lying.
Greg

Jesus! Have you even read the testimonies? Not a single one ever says they saw a missile or that they thought it was some kind of military plane. Go look at them now:

http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html

Saying they saw faces in the windows of the COMMERCIAL JET is a normal perception, and for all we know the passengers might have had their faces pressed to the windows at that moment.

There are tons of other minor details to the descriptions of the COMMERCIAL JET approaching and hitting the building.

To say they are all, or even mostly, lying or fake is the height of sickness from a so-called 'truth movement' on this whole issue of the Pentagon. Those were real people who went through a horrific trauma that most of the 'researchers' and 'spokespeople' who are saying they 'faked it,' will probably never know in their lifetimes. It's really sick to make the presumption because some geeks behind their computers in Australia and France decided that a truck bomb, missile or Sky Warrior hit when they weren't even there, then everyone who was there is lying.

I'm sorry but I am just sick of the hypocrisy and offensiveness.

reader, your strong emotions

reader, your strong emotions aside, no one is claiming that there wasn't an explosion & loss of life at the Pentagon. Whether it was AA77 that caused this is extremely doubtful to many good people for many good reasons! Please do some research.

In the enlargement of the

In the enlargement of the latest Pentagon video I saw, the object approaching has a cockpit nothing like a Boeing 757 and very much like an A3 Sky Warrior or similar craft. However, this enlarged still-frame seems to have been removed from the web. (I found a smaller enlargement, but it isn't as good quality as what was posted a day or 2 after the new video's release.)

Kids, be quiet! We will have

Kids, be quiet!

We will have to wait until a whistleblower comes out, or if a perp confesses in the trial.

Therefore, the longer you go on blathering about the evidence, the longer we will have to wait for the trial.

If you want to help make the trial date arrive faster, then talk to lawyers, judges, district attourneys and justice dept. people

Parallel you can help set up a mock trial, like Bill Peppers 1993 mock trial about MLK (on HBO!)

This brought MANY WITNENESSES out of the woodwork.

http://www.google.com/search?q=william+pepper+mlk+trial+1993

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/dazinith/114899184340739136/?a=14892#14...

"Whether it was AA77 that

"Whether it was AA77 that caused this is extremely doubtful to many good people for many good reasons! Please do some research."

It is not doubtful by the evidence which is what is relevant here.

"In the enlargement of the

"In the enlargement of the latest Pentagon video I saw, the object approaching has a cockpit nothing like a Boeing 757 and very much like an A3 Sky Warrior or similar craft."

There was never an enlargement from which you can tell what the object is so it's impossible to say anything about a cockpit.

"It's therefore impossible

"It's therefore impossible to say how many of the witnesses to the 757, if not all, were lying."

It's pretty clear that no one was lying. Perceptions are different with eyewitnesses but they overwhelmingly agree that they saw a twin-engine American Airlines passenger jet hit the Pentagon The eyewitnesses were in many different locations and were completely uncconnected to each other.