Loose Change vs. The Naudets

From the Loose Change forum here:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=5091&st=360

we've spoken with the naudets.

everything is being worked out.

to our enemies: sorry, turn those smiles upside down
to our friends: told ya.

btw, not everyhing is a conspiracy, guys. the naudets had an exclusive agreement with the firefighters to not release the footage to ANYONE, they only allowed the first plane strike to be licensed out to people.

therefore, i was treading on the firefighters and their families toes', not just the naudets.

like i've said, things are being worked out, like they always have.

"Where do the Naudets stand

"Where do the Naudets stand re: 9/11 truth vs. the official story?"

Hell, the Naudets ARE PART OF the official story. And just as phony:

http://911foreknowledge.com

Ray, that looks like a VERY

Ray, that looks like a VERY interesting link. Thanks.

Cool.

Cool.

good news. maybe Dylan and

good news. maybe Dylan and the Loose Change crew can get new interviews with some of the firemen.

this should put those "Naudet's were in on 9/11" theories to rest as well.

Looks like the boys finally

Looks like the boys finally did what they should have done to begin with: ask permission.

And truth marches on...

And truth marches on...

I heard a rumor that Nico

I heard a rumor that Nico Haupt scared them with his foolproof research that the Naudet video was fake... ;-)

Where has that guy been lately?

http://www.dailykos.com/story

Oliver Stone showed some

Oliver Stone showed some scenes of World Trade Center,starring Nicolas Cage as a port authority officer trapped in the rubble of the twin towers,and the powerful footage allayed any fears of a conspiracy film in the works.It's due in theaters Aug.9.

this is from USA Today.

Ian C. I suppose I need an

Ian C.

I suppose I need an account to post at the kos? That article is getting hammered by all these asshats that think the administration only started lying about everything after 911. Yup everything has been a lie but you can trust them on 911. What a bunch of gonads.

Wow, what a bunch of sissies

Wow, what a bunch of sissies at dKos. So they think it's better to steer clear of controversial topics such as 9/11 because they should focus on "winning the next election" - not only are they ignoring the evidence regarding 9/11, somehow they also managed not to notice that this millenium hasn't even seen legitimate elections, courtesy of the very same criminals. "Reality based community", my ASS...

Very interesting article

Very interesting article questioning Hopsicker's role in 9/11 Truth...

DANIEL HOPSICKER IS THE GOVERNMENT MOLE MESSIAH OF 911 TRUTH DAMAGE CONTROL
http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2006/05/daniel-hopsicker-is-government-...

We Need To Be More

You know, since I posted on

You know, since I posted on Hopsicker...there was an interesting thread over at DU recently about another more playboy-looking Atta. Anyway, I thought the thread hashed out some good hypotheses on how the studly Atta was really the guy Amanda Keller dated and everyone partied with, not the scary Atta we all know.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&f...

Very interesting article

Very interesting article questioning Hopsicker's role in 9/11 Truth

Oooooooooh. Excellent. Thanks.

You can vote the the poll

You can vote the the poll portion of Vesas'poll 9/11 poll but to comment in any of dKos dairies you must have an account which takes 24 hours to process. Given the incredable influence this site now has it's important to back up the good diaries when they appear. Alot of the really knowlegable people here should get registered and help diarists like Vesa address legions of highly political liberals and the media who cover them.

Ex-Star Wars Chief To Charge

i have the same concerns

i have the same concerns about copyright infringement with my film.

although i am doing a strictly not-for-profit film for purely educational purposes, which theoretically should be protected under Section 107 of the fair usage laws - of course the big boys could sue me anyway.

it is my hope that they simply ignore my film - because creating a legal problem would only serve to bring MORE attention to the cause - and a lawyer would undoubtably step in pro bono to turn the trial into a 9/11 case - forcing the court to watch teh film and decide if the content is indeed journalism, and essential to people's right to know.

but - i am indeed in negotiations with Peter Gabriel to secure rights to his music. He is now aware that Curt Weldon sent out a press release on my film - and it has become a mono-phenomenon. i am hopeful that he will see the wisdom in not crushing an activist - when the whole world is in flames.

if he DOES approve usage - we will of course use that publicity to pump this up even bigger.

9.11 Truth - by any means necessary!

I find it interesting

I find it interesting dailykos posted the rules about the 9/11 coverups and the fact they stick with the official story. Americablog also threatens to ban anyone who talks of the 9/11 coverup in the comment section. I was a little pissed about that and the fact they refuse to discuss it so in return, i made fun of the administrator of the blog, john aravois and accused him of taking advantage of bush's presidency because it was the best thing that's ever happened to him.

I recall several updates in the blog about americablog receiving emails from the pentagon asking if they would like to work for them ie. fake news, propaganda, etc and get paid good money. They rejected their demands, of course. Also the blog has caught NSA spying on them in several occasions. It probably explain why they refuse to touch the 9/11 issues otherwise their blog they've worked hard on will be stripped.

If that's not the case then I'm flabbergasted that they can't see the obviousness of the us government's complicity in 9/11. Oh well...

Doug and Lumos...it's

Doug and Lumos...it's getting ridiculous over there. it's actually pretty sad. that was my last over there.

I'm coming to the conclustion that the liberal blogers actually think there is a coverup, but they are so entrenched in the midterm elections that they don't want to ruin their chances. they have become what they claim to be opposed to: fighting for something less than they actually believe in.

Why oh why did I read the

Why oh why did I read the dailykos comments. I knew what they would say but I read them anyway. I went from perfectly happy to pissed. fuck the dailykos.

Som eidiot said the Naudets

Som eidiot said the Naudets were complicit with the attacks? I bet it wasnt even the Naudet's who wrote the letter lawsuit. Those brothers could have easily been killed and risked their life to get that footage, so people talking smack about them is highly counter productive.

Oh and F--- DailyKos, Crooks and Liars, and Smirking Chimp. While some once leftgatekeepers like Air America and Raw Story have come to our side, way too much of the liberal and democratic big sites have become a cesspool of cynical leftist retards who are no different than the very republicans they obsess over.

Why oh why did I read the

Why oh why did I read the dailykos comments. I knew what they would say but I read them anyway. I went from perfectly happy to pissed. fuck the dailykos.
Andy White | Homepage | 05.30.06 - 10:01 pm | #

haha...

It's funny, the polls on

It's funny, the polls on Dailykos always come out supporting 9/11 truth. Then you look at the comments and you have to wonder...

http://www.dailykos.com/story

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/30/204858/950

Laugh. It's funny.

They're just a bunch of idiots. No better, no worse than the rest of the idiots.

Its funny how they make fun

Its funny how they make fun of their fellow liberals. Remember the Zogby poll did show 61% of liberals want a new investigation.

A more serious

A more serious representation of the climate there, maybe?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/22/23521/3651

Okay, I'll stop posting random dailykos stuff now.

geggy, I find AmericaBlog

geggy, I find AmericaBlog frustrating too. They do great work on the political end, especially GLBT issues, since John Aravosis is openly gay and that's his main focus. Still, I'm openly gay too and find their censoring of 9/11 ridiculous. My sense with not just Aravosis, but many of the other bigger name blogs, is that they're climbing the ladder -- any of them would LOVE to be hired by the Washington Post or some other mainstream media outlet. Aravosis is on CNN from time to time, and is quite a good spokesman -- very confident, quick on his feet, good image, etc. It's such a shame that he can't swallow 9/11 truth. ;-)

I made the mistake of

I made the mistake of reading through those DailyKos comments too -- wow, talk about juvenile and dumb. I wish I could laugh.... but, it was too disturbing to see THAT many blind people on the left.

Back on topic, this is GREAT

Back on topic, this is GREAT news that Dylan has worked things out with the Naudets. :-)

Oh and F--- DailyKos, Crooks

Oh and F--- DailyKos, Crooks and Liars, and Smirking Chimp. While some once leftgatekeepers like Air America and Raw Story have come to our side, way too much of the liberal and democratic big sites have become a cesspool of cynical leftist retards who are no different than the very republicans they obsess over.

So true, pockybot. I would add InformationClearingHouse.info to that small list of sites who have come over to our side.

You guys might hate me for

You guys might hate me for this, but I actually respect rightwing blogs more than a lot of the leftgatekeepers..and goodness knows I cannot stand the right wingers. But at least they are consistent...the leftgatekeepers are so bi polar it makes no sense.

But hey, it will be them eating crow when an unbelievably huge and unavoidable story revolving around the 9/11 coverup ends up mainstream news. Then what will they say? Will they just ignore it, or will they have to admit to it?

Everytime these idiot liberals talk about us as being tinfoil hat wearers, I simply say "Youre the guys pushing your election manipulation and bogus Iraq intel conspiracy theories, ya fucking hypocrites"

I agree, it's great news

I agree, it's great news whatever it is they worked out(Louder Than Words) Be it a disclaimer or whatever, I think people get the wrong idea about Dylan and co, that they are just a bunch of wreckless kids. Theyve had to learn fast, but I think they are at the level to handle things responsibly. There is no doubt theyve turned a lot of people onto 9/11 activism, whether or not what they are bringing to the table is ficticious or not.

Just to let everyone know, I

Just to let everyone know, I am still looking into this, and will write a story on it very soon. ;)

pockybot, yeah but I know

pockybot, yeah but I know people on the left who don't even think the elections are manipulated (and obviously they believe the official 9/11 lies too). But, you're right to go after the hypocrites -- plenty of them too. I'm so damn sick of the "conspiracy" label -- don't these people realize that they're playing right into people like Karl Rove's hands? Talk about shallow dittoheads. And, just about EVERYTHING going on with the Bush administration has been PROVEN to be based on conspiracies. I guess there are just a lot of liberals and progressives who still trust the Washington Post and the New York Times, so if they didn't read about it there, it doesn't exist -- just one of those damn tin-foil-hat nutjob wacko conspiracies. SHEESH!!

Hey my criticism doesnt just

Hey my criticism doesnt just go to leftgatekeeper sites, it goes to so called "9/11 activist" sites that are nothing more than exploiting 9/11 activism for their own insanity or holocaust denial like stances. Sites like that IamtheWitness, Wingtv, and others are definately not part of the 9/11 activist community in my opinion.
To me 9/11 activism rests more with the anti war effort and anti globalization than the chemtrail-black helicopter-UFO crap out there.

DTA

DTA

I agree pockybot. Just

I agree pockybot. Just because a website promotes 9/11 truth it does not automatically make it credible.

pockybot--"Some idiot said

pockybot--"Some idiot said the Naudets were complicit with the attacks? I bet it wasnt even the Naudet's who wrote the letter lawsuit. Those brothers could have easily been killed and risked their life to get that footage, so people talking smack about them is highly counter productive."

Yeah, but the Naudets aren't all that either. Why don't they come out on 9/11 truth???

The Naudet Tape isn't

The Naudet Tape isn't fake.
You should better check out 911foreknowledge.com

They only removed a few frames and that's it.

Meanwhile the real fakes (2nd hit) are described here:

http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/rrr3b.html
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/rrr3.html

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=12142

Everytime these idiot

Everytime these idiot liberals talk about us as being tinfoil hat wearers, I simply say "Youre the guys pushing your election manipulation and bogus Iraq intel conspiracy theories, ya fucking hypocrites"
pockybot | 05.30.06 - 11:14 pm | #

You need to do your research before you declare election manipulation bogus.

http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

To believe that Bush won the election, you must also believe:

1- That the exit polls were WRONG...

2- That Zogby's 5pm election day calls for Kerry winning OH, FL were WRONG. He was exactly RIGHT in his 2000 final poll.

3- That Harris last minute polling for Kerry was WRONG. He was exactly RIGHT in his 2000 final poll.

4- The Incumbent Rule I (that undecideds break for the challenger)was WRONG.

5- The 50% Rule was WRONG (that an incumbent doesn't do better than his final polling)

6- The Approval Rating Rule was WRONG (that an incumbent with less than 50% approval will most likely lose the election)

7- That Greg Palast was WRONG when he said that even before the election, 1 million votes were stolen from Kerry. He was the ONLY reporter to break the fact that 90,000 Florida blacks were disnfranchised in 2000.

8- That it was just a COINCIDENCE that the exit polls were CORRECT where there WAS a PAPER TRAIL and INCORRECT (+5% for Bush) where there was NO PAPER TRAIL.

9- That the surge in new young voters had NO positive effect for Kerry.

10- That Bush BEAT 99-1 mathematical odds in winning the election.

11- That Kerry did WORSE than Gore agains an opponent who LOST the support of SCORES of Republican newspapers who were for Bush in 2000.

12- That Bush did better than an 18 national poll average which showed him tied with Kerry at 47. In other words, Bush got 80% of the undecided vote to end up with a 51-48 majority - when ALL professional pollsters agree that the undecided vote ALWAYS goes to the challenger.

13- That Voting machines made by Republicans with no paper trail and with no software publication, which have been proven by thousands of computer scientists to be vulnerable in scores of ways, were NOT tampered with in this election

I dont care if you dont have an opinion on electrion fraud. But dont claim it is bogus unless you can back up your claims.

Hey guys, I just posted a

Hey guys, I just posted a response on my myspace blog
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi...

Cheer up all! We are winning

Cheer up all! We are winning on dailykos.com - slower that I would prefer.

You can see that all the diary polls show that most people on dailykos are with us about 75-80%. The polls also make the shills look silly as they try to say in effect that 75-80% of the people there are crazy.

If you still can post, always add a poll so that the silent majority can back you up.

This is going to take a while to tip. Tip it will.

Hope that I see you all on kos either under your current screen name or the next. Just restart your router to get a fresh IP address and clear your kos cookies.

Thanks for your work there.

Peace.

> >DANIEL HOPSICKER IS THE

>
>DANIEL HOPSICKER IS THE GOVERNMENT >MOLE MESSIAH OF 911 TRUTH DAMAGE >CONTROL
>http://citizenspook.blogspot.com...nm>ent- mole.html
>

I agree. All he has done is "expose" the alleged carelessness of the FBI and CIA. In other words, apologizing for Bush as being merely "incompetent". And in turn justifying the war on terror, justifying spying, justifying the Dept. of Homeland security etc.

Why do the Naudets have a

Why do the Naudets have a "non disclosure" agreement with firefighters?
How much secrecy does it take? Hiding important evidence while 2 foreign wars are based on this very event and trillions of dollars going up in smoke.

Everytime these idiot

Everytime these idiot liberals talk about us as being tinfoil hat wearers, I simply say "Youre the guys pushing your election manipulation and bogus Iraq intel conspiracy theories, ya fucking hypocrites"
pockybot | 05.30.06 - 11:14 pm | #
its better than you idiot conservatives that wave bloody flags in support of this psuedo fascist regime.fuckin sheep-like conservative puppets that cant think for yourselves.

You guys might hate me for

You guys might hate me for this, but I actually respect rightwing blogs more than a lot of the leftgatekeepers..and goodness knows I cannot stand the right wingers. But at least they are consistent...the leftgatekeepers are so bi polar it makes no sense.

But hey, it will be them eating crow when an unbelievably huge and unavoidable story revolving around the 9/11 coverup ends up mainstream news. Then what will they say? Will they just ignore it, or will they have to admit to it?

pockybot | 05.30.06 - 11:14 pm | #

yeah, because conservative blogs and outlets are pushing 9/11 truth like nobodys business right? oh wait, they actually believe in the big lie AND wave their flags for the bullshit war AND the clamp down on our liberties. yeah, but liberals are a bigger problem right? get the fuck outta here.ALL rightwing blogs and outlets completely ignore or make fun of 9/11 truth, while at least some leftwing blogs have the heart to report on it fairly. yet you like rightwingers more huh? wow.

if there were no liberals

if there were no liberals left, 9/11 truth would NEVER see the light of day.conservatives are typically much more likely to accept what the government and media says as gospel.(hence the blind support of the war and clamp down on civil liberties. conservatives not only believe in the big lie of 9/11, they fully believe in the fake war on terror.i cant tell you how many times ive heard a conservative puppet utter the words "islamofascism". i wanna smack the person who coined that term.i can honestly say ive never heard a liberal say those words and get all irrationally fearful over "terrorists" like conservatives do.)

http://www.prisonplanet.com/a

http://www.prisonplanet.com/a

"They do great work on the

"They do great work on the political end, especially GLBT issues, since John Aravosis is openly gay and that's his main focus. Still, I'm openly gay too and find their censoring of 9/11 ridiculous"

I stop by here once a day maybe, I have contributed tens of thousands of dollars to promote 911 truth, have informed countless people about the coverup/crimes of that day and never, not one time did I ever feel it neccessary to talk about MY sexual orientation, yet virtually every thread, at some point, has a reference to GLBT issues and gay lifestyle choices posted by CK.

Why is that?

Is it possible for someone who is "openly gay" to discuss anything without getting around to their sexual orientation?

Is this a GLBT Truth website and I have somehow missed the signals? Do I have to wear a dress and heels to be a part of the search for truth?

Personally I find it to be offensive- not that I care one way or another what anyone chooses to do with their bod-, but because there are times and places for such discussions and frankly, this isn't one of them.

Is there any way you could give it a rest, CK? I am certain you would still be able to contribute to the Truth without reminding everyone 24/7 that you are openly gay?

I stop by here once a day

I stop by here once a day maybe, I have contributed tens of thousands of dollars to promote 911 truth, have informed countless people about the coverup/crimes of that day and never, not one time did I ever feel it neccessary to talk about MY sexual orientation, yet virtually every thread, at some point, has a reference to GLBT issues and gay lifestyle choices posted by CK.
intentionally anonymous | 05.31.06 - 11:16 am | #

I've read almost every comment on this site for the past few months and haven't even heard the word "gay" mentioned until today.

Did I miss something?

All you people who somehow

All you people who somehow just magically know that the Naudets are innocent, have you actually studied the evidence? For instance are you aware that the Naudets had a SECOND camera running within sight of the WTC, 11 blocks closer on the SAME STREET (Church St., but at the Murray intersection, not Lispenard intersection), at the INSTANT of the FIRST Hit?

http://911foreknowledge.com/bravenewworld.htm

And did you know that they FAKED Tony Benetatots' attendance at the September 1, 2001 funeral of fellow FDNY rookie Michael Gorumba, by splicing Tony in during a sneaky, blurry-fast pan-left over the scene of the crowd at the real funeral?

http://911foreknowledge.com/funeral/crowd.htm

How does y'all's theory of Naudet Innocence explain these things?

Is there any way you could

Is there any way you could give it a rest, CK? I am certain you would still be able to contribute to the Truth without reminding everyone 24/7 that you are openly gay?
intentionally anonymous | 05.31.06 - 11:16 am | #

why dont you fuck off dick head!!!!!

ive never seen ck say anything about being gay and i didnt have any idea that he was gay.... why it would bother you is beyond me...

Is there any way you could

Is there any way you could give it a rest, CK? I am certain you would still be able to contribute to the Truth without reminding everyone 24/7 that you are openly gay?
intentionally anonymous | 05.31.06 - 11:16 am | #

why dont you fuck off dick head!!!!!

ive never seen ck say anything about being gay and i didnt have any idea that he was gay.... why it would bother you is beyond me...
inside | 05.31.06 - 2:35 pm | #
i agree.i had no clue and dont see why this guy would blow up about it. the fact that he goes by anonymous says a lot though.

I've read almost every

I've read almost every comment on this site for the past few months and haven't even heard the word "gay" mentioned until today.

Did I miss something?
benthere | Homepage | 05.31.06 - 12:36

That was the first time I heard him say he was gay. Prior to that I was unaware. CK's been here for a long time, hes our friend. While you are intentionally anonymous. Its wierd you would come on here and insult one of our senior respected member.

I think that something is missing from the debate amoungst liberals who do infact believe the official story and their neo con opponents. Even if 9/11 had happened the way the government says it did, it was still small on the grand scheme of things. You are much, much more likely to die in a car accident than from a terrorist attack.
Wheres the war on car accidents? War on cancer? Aids? Heart disease? etc. These idiots who want to give up their freedoms are COWARDS. Even when I believed the official story I wasn't affraid of Osama. If for instance Kerry had actually tried to win the debate I think he would have made this point. Home of the brave right? Their little cowardly girls who talk tough and send other people to do the dirty work.

"why dont you fuck off dick

"why dont you fuck off dick head!!!!!"

There's the typical "tolerance" one comes across whenever anyone fails to toe the politically correct line these days in the Gulag we all know as America.

"why dont you fuck off dick head!!!!!"

Foul-mouthed verbal assaults.

I didn't do that, I merely asked why it was essential to bring a person's sexual orientation into a discussion about 911 Truth. It's irrelevant, it has no connection to the discussion and whether it bothers you or not isn't germane to the issue, that being not everyone agrees with the "platform" and feels it's the heighth of sophistication to engage in sodomy and tell the world about it.

Here's the post I was refering to once again, in case you think I'm not a very good reader-

"They do great work on the political end, especially GLBT issues, since John Aravosis is openly gay and that's his main focus. Still, I'm openly gay too and find their censoring of 9/11 ridiculous"

See what I mean? What has that to do with 911 Truth? Anything? Anything at all? Then why bring it up? Other than the fact that it's someone's own personal crusade?

"ive never seen ck say anything about being gay and i didnt have any idea that he was gay.... why it would bother you is beyond me."

"i agree.i had no clue and dont see why this guy would blow up about it."

Really? I "blew up about it?" I don't think so, I was moderate, the response was explosive and angry though, no doubt about that. You didn't seem to mention it though, why would that be? I'm not the one out here forcing my agenda down anyone's throat- no pun intended.

"the fact that he goes by anonymous says a lot though."

It does, doesn't it? The fact that one cannot have an intelligent discussion about anything that isn't steeped in a neo-fascist lockstep of what is and isn't politically correct- namely GLBT issues that have ZERO bearing on the topic at hand. If fighting this fight means we replace one group of angry extremist homosexuals in power with another, then I'm farily certain a lot of plain old John Doe, average everyday, non-sexuality obsessed Americans will step back from the fray and let you catfight it out.

My point is valid. I wasn't being hostile, I was expressing my views on topic that had already been brought up. The hostility to my pointing it out was way out of proportion to the comments I made- and as I clearly said, I don't give a fig what CK or any other human being on God's green Earth does with their body as long as they use some degree of discretion.

Now go on, have at it, throw a fit.

He mentioned it once. Plenty

He mentioned it once. Plenty of other people post opinions that have little relation to 9/11.

It's a community. People will post strictly-related 9/11 information as well as opinions related to other topics. It could be considered being human, or looked at another way, it could be considered community building.

You apparently have your own issues with what he said. Others don't have those issues. So you should really back off.

You said:
"Is this a GLBT Truth website and I have somehow missed the signals? Do I have to wear a dress and heels to be a part of the search for truth? Personally I find it to be offensive"

I find what you said offensive. In fact, it could be considered hate speech. I'll remind you of the posting rules:

"All comments are welcome! but please avoid hate speech and profanity, and use references when possible."

@Chris: Of course a lot of

@Chris: Of course a lot of the blind flag waving republicans not only think 9/11 wasnt even incompetence, but that Iraq is a just war. (Even tho some of the biggest heroes in the 9/11 truth movement are big time republican conservatives) However the frustration comes from what even youve expressed: the sheer arrogance and censorship from big time leftwing blogs, as well as a lot of the general attitude of so called progressives. "Oh no, dont talk about 9/11, it'll ruin our chances in 06 and 08!". Point is, WE EXPECT GOP supporters to be that way, not for Dems who claim to hate Bush and the neocons but buy up every word of the official story.

And I believe CK was saying that as a gay person even he gets tired of the GL issue being used by liberals, but the other issues being ignored. This is where I differ with Alex Jones, as even tho hes a personal hero, I dont agree with his position on homosexuality or his obsession with immigration.

God, what CK originally said

God, what CK originally said didn't even begin to distract from the topic of 9/11. This has.

Now what were we talking about again?

Dylan and L2CE?

Sounds like from Jason's Myspace blog that they may be working to keep some of the footage in the movie.

I read that blog too. From

I read that blog too. From the sounds of it I wonder if they have conceded and are fully complying...or if they are reaching some sort of agreement allowing some of the footage. Then again I say they should take out the Cleveland airport/Flight 93 thing and faked calls thing, but that's just me.

too bad

Too bad this will probably be settled out of court now....with a crafty representitive, the whole 911 issue could have gone to trial. But hey, who wants to chance a major fine and possible jail time? A Patriot?

Now go on, have at it, throw

Now go on, have at it, throw a fit.
intentionally anonymous | 05.31.06 - 4:42 pm | #
does the homophobe want to give his name? or stay anonymous? if you have so much conviction, why go by anonymous? what name do you usually post under on this site?

and pocky, you need to be clear when you bash liberals, i know what you mean about the frustration of the leftwing outlets ignoring 9/11, i live that frustration everyday, but your comments always seem to be bashing the liberal idealogy as much as liberal websites and such.i would never bash someone because they have a conservative outlook on life.conservatives and liberals that ignore 9/11 are the same to me.unrealistic cowards.i agree about ALex Jones too, hes a hero of mine for sure, despite the fact that politically we are on opposite sides of the spectrum. but your right about his issues with gays and stem cell research and his constant obbsession with immigration.it gets pretty annoying when he talks social issues or immigration.

Where do the Naudets stand

Where do the Naudets stand re: 9/11 truth vs. the official story? We certainly know where Dylan Avery stands! Why don't the Naudaets speak up?

based on the wording in that

based on the wording in that lawsuit on the Loose Change site, it doesnt seem like they support any 9/11 truth efforts.

To me it is as natural for

To me it is as natural for some one to say they are a gay person for 911 truth as it is for me to say I'm a mom for 9 11 truth.People give out personal information sometimes because it enables other people to see their perspective.It is relevant and it should be allowed in civilized conversation.What's all the fuss?

the fuss is he's a troll.

the fuss is he's a troll. Just a new way of trolling our boards. We have to stay on top of things and make sure we dont feed them.

"Ray, that looks like a VERY

"Ray, that looks like a VERY interesting link. Thanks."

You're welcome, Anonymous.

How come the Naudets don't sue ME? My site's footage is excerpted almost 100 PERCENT from their movie. And I don't JUST use their footage, I outright call them co-conspirators!

I think Dylan Avery and the Naudets might have cooked this current issue up as a publicity stunt for Dylan.

Ray Ubinger
Durham NC USA
http://911foreknowledge.com
NAUDET 911: THE ART OF THE MOCK-YOU-DRAMA