Explosion Sounds at the Twin Towers

Valis found this archive of explosion sounds at the Twin Towers.

I don't know who the guy is who compiled this collection, but it appears to have alot of data.

Any sound engineers want to analyze this information and see what it shows?

holy shit Jon, thats great.

holy shit Jon, thats great. is it one on one? what exactly are you gonna present to him?

So I can ask him flat out

So I can ask him flat out why Washington D.C. is allowing the Bush Administration get away with the murder of 3000 people.

ask him if he is going to go

ask him if he is going to go deeper than Able Danger. tell him more people are watching him than he thinks.

I'm going to ask him flat

I'm going to ask him flat out why nothing is being done to investigate the Bush Administration's role in the 9/11 attacks.

The Bush Administration's

The Bush Administration's OBVIOUS role in the 9/11 attacks.

it's going to be me, him,

it's going to be me, him, and a staffer I was told.

Holy crap, found the Who

Holy crap, found the Who Killed John ONeil 9/11 documentayr online!
http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html

I have always said John Oneil, like Mohammaed Atta was one of the key pieces to unraveling the 9/11 mystery. I cant wait to see this thing when it downloads. HAs anyone else heard of this or seen it? Also that "On Native Soil" 9/11 documentary looks so freaking lame:
http://www.911report.com/

Of course the best 9/11 movie coming soon: SNAKES ON A PLANE!

Jon: What's the purpose of

Jon:

What's the purpose of the meeting?

pockybot, don't you mean,

pockybot, don't you mean, "9/11: Press For Truth"?

9/11: Press For Truth Kyle

9/11: Press For Truth
Kyle Hence

SYNOPSIS:
9/11 PRESS FOR TRUTH is the story of how a small circle of relatives of the September 11th victims, including four grieving widows from New Jersey known as “The Jersey Girls.” Together they battle the White House for over a year after 9/11 to force an independent investigation. The families soon discover the 9/11 Commission is hopelessly compromised and when it completes its work the women find that 70% of their questions remained unanswered. Charged with emotion and new revelations, this documentary dramatically retraces their quest for truth and connects the dots with the help of Paul Thompson's The Terror Timeline. The biggest questions of all remain: Why after all this time are we still not close to the truth? Will new facts, whistleblowers and a new investigation lift the lid off a massive cover-up, as Americans continue to Press for Truth about 9/11?

"Why after all this time are we still not close to the truth?"

I don't agree with that statement. The only thing in doubt really is the how, but the who is pretty much answered.

I grabbed that from the

I grabbed that from the Chicago events list.

I'm an audio engineer and

I'm an audio engineer and I've read, listened to, and analyzed this compilation and analysis of explosions at WTC. Whoever put this page together and did the analysis - my respect is due.

From an audio engineer's perspective, the sounds of explosions is what got me into the truth. I know sound, and I know what it looks like, if that makes sense. There is no doubt in my mind that multiple enormous explosions took place within those towers that morning.

This is an extremely powerful, scientific resource.

The Bush Administration's

The Bush Administration's OBVIOUS role in the 9/11 attacks.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 05.31.06 - 6:32 pm | #
you gotta get REAL specific with him though. press him on why he hasnt gone further than Able Danger when its clear thats only scratching the surface.

Holy crap, found the Who

Holy crap, found the Who Killed John ONeil 9/11 documentayr online!
http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html

pockybot | 05.31.06 - 6:42 pm | #
do you know who made this and where it came from?

I'm listening to the first

I'm listening to the first set of explosions. That sound can only be explosions, but how do we know that audio came from where he said it did? From the church?

Chris, I believe that 'Who

Chris,

I believe that 'Who Killed John Oneil' documentary was suggested by the recent whistleblower, so it is probably worth checking out - I know I will later tonight.. although i do not believe it is new..

9/11 Press For Truth sounds

9/11 Press For Truth sounds absolutely amazing. This is the kind of thing that should be playing in theatres across the country. Anymore info or time table of this release?

the raid on Jefferson's

the raid on Jefferson's office which took 18 hours has really upset the gop lawmakers. it is unprecendented. the hearing is on c-span and if you watch it you will see constitutional experts telling the congress that they must act now to save "the seperation of powers."

"although i do not believe

"although i do not believe it is new.."

No... it's been around for a while.

I'll have to watch it... The

I'll have to watch it...

The segment they had on O'Neill in EGLS was really succinct and gripping.

Rumsfeld Zeros in on the

Rumsfeld Zeros in on the Internet
A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION
by Mike Whitney

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was warmly greeted at the recent meeting of the Council on Foreign Relations. The CFR is the hand-picked assemblage of western elites from big-energy, corporate media, high-finance and the weapons industry. These are the 4,000 or so members of the American ruling class who determine the shape of policy and ensure that the management of the global economic system remains in the hands of U.S. bluebloods.

Rumsfeld confirms his dedication to propaganda by defending the bogus stories that were printed in Iraqi newspapers by Pentagon contractors. (We) "sought non-traditional means to provide accurate information to the Iraqi people in the face of an aggressive campaign of disinformation....This has been deemed inappropriate -- for examples the allegations of ‘buying news'".

A brazen defense of intentionally planted lies. How low can we sink?

US Central Command has launched an online communications effort that includes electronic news updates and a links campaign that has resulted in several hundred blogs receiving and publishing CENTCOM content."

The military plans to develop the "institutional capability" to respond to critical news coverage within the same news cycle and to develop a comprehensive scheme for infiltrating the internet.

The Pentagon's strategy for taking over the internet and controlling the free flow of information has already been chronicled in a recently declassified report, "The Information Operations Roadmap"; is a window into the minds of those who see free speech as dangerous as an "enemy weapons-system".

The Pentagon is aiming for "full spectrum dominance" of the Internet. Their objective is to manipulate public perceptions, quash competing points of view, and perpetuate a narrative of American generosity and good-will.

The War Department is planning to insert itself into every area of the Internet from blogs to chat rooms, from leftist web sites to editorial commentary. Their rapid response team will be on hair-trigger alert to dispute any tidbit of information that challenges the official storyline.

i wonder how much time we have before the internet is taken away from us.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/06/02/con06077.html

9/11 PRESS FOR TRUTH is the

9/11 PRESS FOR TRUTH is the story of how a small circle of relatives of the September 11th victims, including four grieving widows from New Jersey known as “The Jersey Girls.”

How what??? This isn't even a real sentence.

Thanks Valis! ;) I agree

Thanks Valis! ;)

I agree Jon. It would be good to hear the video it was excerpted from to get an idea of the context, and even find out who recorded it.

the first image links to

the first image links to this video, is this not what you guys are looking for?
http://www.mediumrecords.com/wtc/southtower.trinity.avi

if anyone knows the original source, or where a fuller copy could be found please let us know!

DP, Scholars for 9/11

DP,

Scholars for 9/11 Truth would be interested in your background and your analysis of these recordings.

Please email Jim Fetzer at email@st911.org.

"How what??? This isn't

"How what??? This isn't even a real sentence."

You're right. It's a shitty description.

Give 'em hell, Jon....

Give 'em hell, Jon.... gently, but firmly, and with the knowledge that you've got millions of others standing behind you.

OT (sort of): Just to give

OT (sort of):

Just to give some of you an update on how my pastor reacted to "9/11 Revisited", all I can tell you is, I don't know yet. I gave him a copy of the DVD along with the letter I posted here on Sunday 5/21. I waited all week for him to call me with questions, but no call was made. I attended church last Sunday the 28th and he avoided me. After the service I stayed in my seat as the church cleared out, hoping he would come up to me to talk, but he left the sanctuary. I walked out to my car and hung out there watching everybody clear out as I sipped my coffee, waiting for the pastor to walk out to his car. He eventually walked out saying his goodbye's to other members. As he walked to his car he glanced over in my direction and waved to me with a smile. I waved back and he got in his car. He pulled his car up to me while at the same time the youth pastor walked up to his car and started chatting with him. After he was done with the youth pastor, he just smiled at me again and drove off. I'm a little creeped out by his silence.

It's not really a lunch

It's not really a lunch date. I'm having a video conference with him in Upper Darby, and he'll be in Washington D.C.

maybe he didnt watch it yet?

maybe he didnt watch it yet?

I hope you are right, but I

I hope you are right, but I think he would have at least read the letter and offered me some kind of response or question, since he was aware I was troubled when I gave it to him. He looked me in the eye that day and sincerely said to me, "Blessings."

Holy crap, found the Who

Holy crap, found the Who Killed John ONeil 9/11 documentayr online!
http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html

pockybot | 05.31.06 - 6:42 pm | #
do you know who made this and where it came from?

It was made by Ty Rauber. See http://911truth.org/911rtt/speakers.html

T-Bone keep us updated. BTW

T-Bone keep us updated. BTW did you join my group?

My lunch date is set with

My lunch date is set with Representative Weldon. On June 28th at 3:45pm.

Wow, WKJO is some pretty

Wow, WKJO is some pretty intense stuff. Ties in very well with Grove.

So many connections between security firms, intelligence agencies, and terrorists that I wasn't aware of.

I'm only part-way through, but I know I'm going to have to watch it a few more times.

hello, the audio article is

hello,

the audio article is my work.

(not sure who Ty Rauber is)

thanks for checking it out and for the comments.

there are a number of other small videos which i have already looked at but have yet to write up... along with a more detailed look at the R. Siegel footage.

the Naudet footage is rather interesting.

the "trinity church clip" which people are asking about was found on a site on a Danish language website. it appears to have been ripped from a television documentary/news-media show or something like that.
seems i forgot to post the link of where i found it, so will dig that up and post it.

Hi medium, glad you made it

Hi medium, glad you made it here. Thanks for clarifying where you found the Trinity Church clip. It's the most obvious sound of explosions I've heard yet, even more so than 9/11 Eyewitness, at least as far as my ears can tell.

One question that I've heard people ask before was if you can hear those explosions from Hoboken, why can't you hear them on the tapes closer to the buildings? You've done a good job of showing an example of a video that did record the explosions, as well as explaining why you might not hear them from some locations, because of the nature of blasts.

Some very interesting stuff you have on your site, with all of your sonograms. I think Jim Fetzer from Scholars for 9/11 Truth would love to hear from you as well, as mentioned to DP above:

"Scholars for 9/11 Truth would be interested in your background and your analysis of these recordings.

Please email Jim Fetzer at email@st911.org."

Oh, and Ty Rauber is the producer/director of "Who Killed John O'Neill?", from a conversation that got mixed into this thread.

Thanks again for responding to my email. Oh, btw, what do you think of Greening's theories compared to Griffin's? Are you undecided, or do you favor one hypothesis?

Medium, Thanks for your

Medium,

Thanks for your compilation. If you'd like to email Jim Fetzer at email@st911.org, or just post a comment to any of my blogs at GeorgeWashington.blogspot.com (and your message will be automatically forwarded to me), we'd be interested to learning more about the sources, and also your background in acoustics.

DP, the scholars would

DP, the scholars would really like to speak with you.

Please email email@st911.org.

On Weldon, I have 2 big

On Weldon, I have 2 big concerns. First, he's GOP. That party runs a tight ship. If he gets to far outside the line, he's gone. They'll McCain him or worse. Secondly, I read in last week's Newsweek that he's trying to tie Iran to 9/11. Not only is that harmful to getting the truth out, but it feeds into the neo-con/PNAC plan to wage war on Iran to further increase US/corporate dominance of the Middle East.

So, Jon, be careful about the monster you're feeding. That's all I'm saying.

well cheers. "Oh, btw, what

well cheers.

"Oh, btw, what do you think of Greening's theories compared to Griffin's? Are you undecided, or do you favor one hypothesis?"

I find that Greening's theories are top-notch... though the latest revisions i've seen from him do tend to contradict his earlier assumptions in such a way as to make his work not very internally consistent on a few key points... (the colour of the metal flowing from the south-tower just prior to collapse for instance)

to me it is important that people offer speculations which don't automatically boil down to cheney sitting in a bunker pushing detonation buttons (if you know what i mean).
Greening bothers to actually acknowledge that a) there really were huge explosions associated with the collapse and b) the nist and fema offerings have many short comings.

to quote Greening:

"Finally, let me say that although I have not done any calculations for other WTC structures, the collapse of WTC 7 is a problem! I say this mainly because WTC 7 was not hit by an aircraft; therefore I admit it is very surprising that this high-rise building should have collapsed without being subject to an aircraft impact."

there tends to be a lot of false dichotomies and "whose side are you on anyway" type aspects to the debates so it's nice to see people like Greening be somewhat creative in terms of what they will accept as being reasonable.

as far as what hypothesis i favour...
well, lets just say i'm somewhere between "bumble-planes" and whatever fox-news settled on... really... there's just so much we don't.. and really can't know about what went down in terms of specifics... by sharing our observations we may certainly offer potential disillusionment to those who would care to look, but beyond that it's something totally different to offer some kind of hope for the future.
to fight for the chance to peg everything on the bush admin my seem on the surface to make sense but, as has been pointed out, tends to ignore the far far far greater crimes against humanity which have been perpetrated (and continue to be committed) by the u.s. and by extension their allies since 9/11.

I agree that it is

I agree that it is significant that Greening bothers to try to explain WTC7 and the large explosions that many eyewitnesses saw and heard. I find his aluminum-thermite reaction hypothesis has a very low likelihood to have actually occured, though. Griffin tested the reaction with his students and couldn't get it to occur. It's a possibility, but I don't know that you would have the exact same conditions in both towers to catalyze the reaction.

I tend to approach looking at 9/11 with a similar perspective. I don't enjoy blaming Bush. Before I researched anything about 9/11, he was just a slightly below average President in my mind. Not someone who I was eager to blame for killing his own people. I still have no idea if he would have been involved directly if a rogue group within our country committed the acts, but he certainly discouraged the investigation through his appointments of commissioners and the reluctance to provide evidence of what actually happened.

I think the best way to find out what happened is through a combination of science and following the money. Analysis such as yours plays a great part in finding the actual truth of what happened, regardless of anyone's agenda. It is much appreciated.

"Griffin tested the reaction

"Griffin tested the reaction with his students and couldn't get it to occur."

it think that was s.jones who did a test with his students... but yeah, pretty limited of course.

i'm not too sure about the aluminum/thermite sparking ideas either. more plausible to me is molten aluminum + water. in the case of the north tower, there was a 15,000 gallon water tank on the 110th floor, which in theory would have been full.
in the case of the south tower, the mechanical floors, just below the plane impact zone, would have held a lot of water i suppose... and it is exactly those floors which blow out quit heavily as the collapse begins.