Ray McGovern: False Flag Attacks "Probable" to Justify War with Iran

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Former CIA analyst and Presidential advisor Ray McGovern, fresh from his heated public confrontation with Donald Rumsfeld, fears that staged terror attacks across Europe and the US are probable in order to justify the Bush administration's plan to launch a military strike against Iran, which he thinks will take place in June or July.


McGovern entertained the notion that western governments and intelligence hierarchies could potentially stage terror attacks in Europe and the US either before or after an invasion of Iran.

"That's altogether possible," said McGovern.

"I would say even probable because they need some proximate cause, some casus belli to justify really unleashing things on Iran....I would put very little past this crew - their record of dissembling and disingenuousness is unparalleled."

McGovern said that Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld, fearing impeachment and Enron-style criminal proceedings, are urging President Bush to launch a war in order to create a climate unconducive to lengthy investigations and impeachment proceedings.

Asked to cite specifically when we should expect to see an attack launched, McGovern said, "I think we all agree that an attack is likely before the election and we all agree that it has to do largely with the election - as for timing I see a likelihood that it could come as early as late June or early July, most of my colleagues predict August, September, maybe an October surprise even."

As I was watching the NBC

As I was watching the NBC evening disinformation last night, I noticed a reporter just slip in a statement that Iran is believed to be supporting the insurgents in Iraq with materials and know-how. This is how it starts -- I expect more of the same to follow shortly.

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Dont know if this is news or

Dont know if this is news or not -

Citizenspook has come out and said 9-11 was a government operation.


I haven't written about 911 before in this blog. So let me state what I believe has already been proved by the physical, scientific, testimonial -- repressed -- evidence: the US Government pulled off the 911 tragedy to further its own goals of reshaping the global power grid in favor of their interests. It's the greatest crime ever perpetrated.

And the genius elements of the Government who were charged with the 911 task certainly anticipated that their would be a 911 truth movement. They, more than any of us, knew that they had a very small window under which they could remain safe from public scientific media scrutiny. They knew they could whitewash 911 for a couple of years, but eventually the massive truth would come down on them in this information age. After all, you can't effectively spin things like "scale" and "physics" let alone eyewitness reports.

If there was another

If there was another occurance of a false flag terrorism, it would make NSA look stupid now, wouldn't it? With all the propaganda the pentagon has been shoving into our face in attempt to generate public supprot for invasion in Iran, most of us don't buy it and thats why there's been delays for the war in Iran, because they've failed to obtain public approval. Many of us have learnt our mistakes from the past when HW Bush used the fake baby incubator in Iraq as a false pretext to invade the middle east. W Bush used 9/11 and WMD as the justification to invade the middle east. If a false flag terrorism was ever to be orchestrated by "al qaeda" and Iran was to be the one to blame, it will only fuel even more suspicion in the public that the real terrorists aren't the ones who the mainstream media tells us.

I think they are having

I think they are having serious arguments among themselves about whethr they can get away with it one more time. I suspect GWB doesn't want to risk it - just a hunch based on his panicky reaction when the subject of 911 comes up.

I wouldn't be too worried. I

I wouldn't be too worried. I think Bush is losing his grip on the agencies. I suspect there is a lot of infighting and wrangling going on behind the scenes now.
Check out www.tomflocco.com

I don't like the sound of

I don't like the sound of 6/6/06 for two reasons:

I think they're absolutely

I think they're absolutely addicted to fearpolitics.They've backed themselves into a corner, and like a junkie, they are not thinking rationally, and refusing wise counsel.McGovern hammers it home .
The administration will fall apart from within and implode from economic forces without.Perhaps to someone they are expendable.These months before the war , I've wondered how many around me on the streets are aware of whats in the works.

Anyone know the latest on

Anyone know the latest on William Rodriguez?

Tom Flocco -- the same

Tom Flocco -- the same person who claimed that Barbara Olson has been arrested at a non-existent border in Europe?

Have a look at this:

that Flocco article is

that Flocco article is another in his recent string of disinfo.

the same story is also being spouted at the racist halturnershow site.

I can't be optimistic about

I can't be optimistic about justice prevailing and Bush paying for his sins. If a nuke is detonated in the U.S., boobus america will rally behind him and want revenge upon any target he so chooses.
I simply cannot accept that the people out there that cut me off in traffic and have American flag stickers on their cars wouldn't blindly follow him. Americans sort of deserve their fate.

It disgusts me. Feeling pretty powerless.

This just occurred to me: if

This just occurred to me: if the majority of DailyKos readers (remember that 80 percent agreed with me in the recent poll) could be convinced to somehow protest the 9/11 discussion "gag order"... Surely they all could not be banned. I'm thinking of a revolution on DailyKos. :) Any ideas?

Vesa, I think there is


I think there is probably something that can change the tide on that site. I am pretty sure that back in 2004 there was a mass banning because people were "conspiracy theorists" who talked about repugs stealing the election. Maybe the recent Rolling Stones could be used to remove the "tinfoil hat" from 911 discussion as well.

"it will only fuel even more

"it will only fuel even more suspicion in the public that the real terrorists aren't the ones who the mainstream media tells us."

But the problem is, at that point, it won't make much of a difference what most of the public thinks. After another 9/11 martial law would be declared immediately and there wouldn't be any opportunity to speak out and organize even if one was willing to do so under those conditions. 9/11 truth has to spread widely to prevent another attack b/c if that happens it will probably all be over.

"I'm thinking of a

"I'm thinking of a revolution on DailyKos"

Screw dailykos. When this site is revamped to diaries dailykos users who don't buy the OV will be over here.

Totally agree.

Totally agree.

If the net gets closed down

If the net gets closed down we will have too back to using the phone and writing letters. Make sure your phone book is up to date.

>addicted to fear

>addicted to fear


But wait for the other tricks 911 perps have up their sleeve.

How about an assassination of a world-leader?

McGovern is probably well

McGovern is probably well aware how Operation Gladio operatives used murderous false flag terror attacks in Europe in the 70s and 80s to discredit communists and lefties in the eyes of the electorate.


'You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

This was the essence of Operation Gladio, a decades-long covert campaign of terrorism and deceit directed by the intelligence services of the West -- against their own populations. Hundreds of innocent people were killed or maimed in terrorist attacks -- on train stations, supermarkets, cafes and offices -- which were then blamed on "leftist subversives" or other political opponents. The purpose, as stated above in sworn testimony by Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra, was to demonize designated enemies and frighten the public into supporting ever-increasing powers for government leaders -- and their elitist cronies.

First revealed by Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti in 1991, Gladio (from the Latin for "sword") is still protected to this day by its founding patrons, the CIA and MI6. Yet parliamentary investigations in Italy, Switzerland and Belgium have shaken out a few fragments of the truth over the years. These have been gathered in a new book, "NATO's Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe," by Daniele Ganser, as Lila Rajiva reports on CommonDreams.org.

Just listenting to McGovern

Just listenting to McGovern on urgh Alex Jones..


USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN did *NOT* go to the gulf, it arrived in Japan last thursday.


CVN-76 The USS Ronald Reagan is coming home to San Diego

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