Bombs Heard in the Twin Towers
Reprehensor Sat, 06/03/2006 - 8:51pm
Forget all of the videos and photos of the collapse of the World Trade Centers for a minute. Let's talk about an aspect of 9/11 that we've all glossed over: sound.
The following earwitness testimony indicates controlled demolition of the Twin Towers:
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What could make the above-described sounds other than explosives used as part of a controlled demolition?"
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very good post. See my 9/11
very good post.
See my 9/11 WTC 'Controlled Demolition Theory' Analysis Thread for more
http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820
Explosive Testimony: The 911
Explosive Testimony: The 911 Oral Histories
with author and theologian, Dr. David Ray Griffin. As the result of a lawsuit brought by the New York Times and several families of 911 victims, the New York Court of Appeals ordered the city to release hundreds of oral histories of 911 witnesses. These witness testimonies were originally gathered shortly after September 11th on the order of Thomas Von Essen, the City Fire Commissioner, who said he wanted to preserve these accounts before they became reshaped by a collective memory. In these oral histories, Firefighters and Emergency Medical Workers recount their experiences of that day, including riveting descriptions of explosions seen, felt and heard in the WTC towers on 911. Descriptions are consistent with pre-positioned explosives and controlled demolition, not with progressive collapse due to melted steel and "pancaking" floors.
Date: 2006-03-29,
Text:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060118104223192
Audio:
http://torrentchannel.com/David_Ray_Griffin_on_Guns_and_Butter
Does anybody know if the
Does anybody know if the military actually tested the nuke out in Nevada yesterday or not?
Although I don't discount
Although I don't discount this evidence entirely, visual evidence is much more convincing for me. People think every loud noise is a bomb. When someone jumps out of the 80th floor window, it sounds like a bomb when they land. Floors collapsing, windows breaking, falling debris, or electrical systems failing, could all be mistaken for a bomb.
I would disagree with the
I would disagree with the above statement. The sound from an explosion in Manhattan will reverberate off surrounding buildings, giving the noise a very recognizable two- tone sound. Listen to the audio recordings posted yesterday - the noises are either gunshots, explosions, or something else that would create a sudden blast and the immediate echo (fireworks, maybe?...). Other loud 'events' will not create the sudden expansion of air and an instantaneous reverb.
You missed the point. We're
You missed the point. We're talking about ear-witness testimony, for the most part, not actual recordings.
Further credit must be given
Further credit must be given to the eyewitness testimonies because many of the eyewitnesses were experts (firefighters, police) and because their testimony, like the initial mass media reports of secondary explosions, had yet to be filtered by fear and self-censorship.
Yeah, but carn, I've watched
Yeah, but carn, I've watched buildings burn in person & on tv, and I didn't hear any explosions like those at WTC. (The buildings didn't turn to dust either.)
Here we have all kinds of professional 1st-responders saying there were numerous explosions, especially immediately preceding the collapses. Seems important to me.
I wish the journalistic
I wish the journalistic investigation that went into proving anthrax was an inside job, would go into 9/11. Grow some cajones media people!
June 3, 2006 Nico wrote to
June 3, 2006
Nico wrote to NIST:
Dear NIST and the planehuggers,
it appears to me that the investigation on WTC 7 and 9/11 is still questionable, because there is apparently new footage of a new
'plane' crashing into WTC 7?
Since it wasn't established yet, who was the camera operator for
W-ABC 7 (including a WESCAM set) of the official second hit,
maybe you can shed some new light on their identities or also
about this new clip?
regards,
nico aka ewing2001
truthseeker new york city
9/11: The lost 'plane crash' into WTC7
http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com/
June 3, 2006
Lost Footage, Reality, TV Prank or another revenge of the 'planehuggers'?
http://tinyurl.com/hpjtk
Nico, you continue to come
Nico, you continue to come up with some of the wackiest shit I've ever seen.
Pocky, the anthrax murders
Pocky, the anthrax murders is another huge smoking gun that no msm will touch! It's clear that the perpetrators of 9/11 have also sabotaged our freedom of the press!
Haupt, we have enough
Haupt, we have enough American traitors here to spread disinfo to discredit the truth movement. Go back to Germany & spread your bullshit from there, you fraud.
since you are calling each
since you are calling each other names again and do not debate the WHAT HAPPENED? I will preface my posts with insults, just so that you don't need to complain about it.
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you shit-eating bastard time-wasters
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Re: Nevada (non-)nuke test:
Nevada Nuclear Test Delayed Indefinitely
note the TWO confusing statements in the course of just 5 words.
http://news.google.com/news?q=nevada%20nuclear
a) it was not nuclear
b) delayed indefinitely = 100% maybe = 50% pregnant = Ignorance is Strength. Information Warfare
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MOVED UA175 No-PLANE flame-fest here
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911blimp...
you seem to be a "know-how-it-happened".
Can you please give us a telegramme-style executive summary HOW 911 WAS DONE?
1) the real AA11 and UA175 landed at STEWART (private air-force base) and
2) decoys took off.
3) these decoys slammed into the WTCs
4) UA175 footage was doctored.
did I get this rigt?
hey TEAM8PLUS.. does this fit the available unfalsified data?
related:
I tried to get some incorruptible science-fans involved in the discussion .. with mixed success.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro.amateur/browse_thread/thread/d1...
"...Haupt, we have enough
"...Haupt, we have enough American traitors here to spread disinfo to discredit the truth movement...."
yes, most of them are talking in Chicago right now...
What does it hurt to be
What does it hurt to be suspicious of some of the people in our government? What's wrong with keeping a close eye on them? "It neither picks their pocket or breaks their leg" so to speak.
There were no bombs and no
There were no bombs and no evidence of bombs.
What "sounded like" bombs is completely irrelevant unless supported by other evidence and no evidence of explosives has ever been found.
This was a silly article. Please think more carefully.
R2D2, you're quite a
R2D2, you're quite a comedian. But seriously, it would be much easier to divert commercial airliners (with fake radio messages) into landing at a military base than to have rigged them with remote-control equipment & fly them (with passengers & crew) into the buildings. (Much could go wrong in that scenario.)
Swapped planes could have been meticulously equipped with remote-control or drone capabilities at "top-secret" bases far more easily than commercial airliners in service.
A signed editorial in the
A signed editorial in the January issue of Fire Engineering magazine says the current investigation is "a half-baked farce."
We may have found evidence of explosives if the investigation wasn't "a half-baked farce".
"and no evidence of
"and no evidence of explosives has ever been found."
You have to have a real investigation to find evidence. The crimescene can't be obstructed & then shipped to China.
Fourtunately, video, audio, & eyewitness testimony of numerous explosions is evidence.
I see your sudden return at
I see your sudden return at this juncture, as a good thing , Nico. Tells me these testimonies are important enough to launch a disinfo campaign. Last ditch efforts .
"There were no bombs and no
"There were no bombs and no evidence of bombs."
Right, this was a gravity-driven collapse:
http://home.comcast.net/~jeffrey.king2/wsb/media/56016/site1085.jpg
Get a f*ing brain.
Other Anonymous, great pic^!
Other Anonymous, great pic^! That tower looks far more like Mt. St Helens blowing her top than a building falling from gravity!!! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Sthelens3.jpg/3...
So was anyone else expecting
So was anyone else expecting some sort of coverage or at least a mention of this supposedly giant chicago event?
I expected the MSM to ignore it, but does anyone know of a 9/11 site that is covering it?
don't know of any sites
don't know of any sites covering it.
if this isn't proof of the media's worth, I don't know what is. They would have covered it if it was a UFO conference.
yes, most of them are
yes, most of them are talking in Chicago right now...
Nico Haupt aka ewing2001 | 06.03.06 - 5:34 pm | #
dude, you gotta work at trying to hide your jealousy a little bit better.....
check out this link
check out this link here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469641/board/thread/44823756
For those not registered with IMDB, I will copy/paste below...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57YTh5z6aHA&search=melissa%20doi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK8qJ1cJ9EA&search=kevin%20cosgrove
Kevin Cosgrove was on the 105th floor of Tower 2, Melissa Doi on the 83rd floor. Both made distressed pleas for help saying they couldn't breathe and were inhaling copious amounts of black, arid smoke.
Yet on the audio track I heard not a single cough. Not a hack, not a cough not a single throat clearing. If they were breathing in these toxic amount of burning jet fuel, wouldn't you expect to hear something other than panting breath?
There's probably some rational explanation, but I just found it interesting.
More grist for the conspiracy mills...
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Note from CB: whether or not these tapes are real, they are very difficult to listen to.
UA175 was not a 767? Then,
UA175 was not a 767?
Then, low in the sky, I saw a plane coming, it had two engines on either side of the tail ...
M. Armstead, New York, NY
there are many types of aeroplanes that have engines ON THE TAIL, but a 767 has huge engine under the wings!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/1537530.stm
Yet on the audio track I
Yet on the audio track I heard not a single cough. Not a hack, not a cough not a single throat clearing. If they were breathing in these toxic amount of burning jet fuel, wouldn't you expect to hear something other than panting breath?
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Note from CB: whether or not these tapes are real, they are very difficult to listen to.
CB | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 8:39 pm | #
I find that sickening to go as far as doubting the 911 calls from victims in the towers....
Wow, were under attack from
Wow, were under attack from people who think were tinfoil hat crazies and those that want to spread total holocaust denial like false disnifo. sweet.
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Slaves of US and plane-dogmatists!
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Amazing impact photo, but what is the large black object?
http://wtc10048nyc.free.fr/120.html
could someone email / phone David Handschuh DHandschuh@DailyNewsPix.com @ work 212/210-2344 to give us a super-high-rez photo so we can analyse the debris? There should be something to see.
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Re: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/1537530.stm
Maybe someone could phone M. Armstead, New York, NY and ask him what exactly he saw. Because
Then, low in the sky, I saw a plane coming, it had two engines on either side of the tail, and even from our vantage the plane looked large. sounds like it was not a 767, it has engine under the wings, not either side of the tail.
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AND ANOTHER
... phone Chao Soi Cheong and ask him for the crucial FIRST FRAMES and the wide angle originals
An amazing sequence-photographer!
http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Chao%20Soi%20Cheong
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finally, through
http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Anthony%20Cotsifas
I found essential info on the
HOLOGRAM THEORY
http://www.gallerize.com/What_Is_The_Hologram_Theory.htm
Holocaust denial? How about
Holocaust denial?
How about Hologramme denial?
hehe
Prison Planet down??
Prison Planet down??
Appears so......
Appears so......
its back up now
its back up now
I doubt those calls are
I doubt those calls are fake. I don't see any reason for anyone to fake calls like that, unless they were going to describe fires everywhere to try to uphold the "fire & damage" theory of collapse, but the callers specifically say they don't see any fire.
That second sound clip will haunt me for a while.
This picture haunts
This picture haunts me.
http://wtc10048nyc.free.fr/120.html
So the ghost-plane has vanished inside the tower and an explosion squirts straight out... with a black "something" in front?
Does anyone have a hi-rez photo?
u2: it is a nice picture is
u2:
it is a nice picture is it authentic?
Someone has a budget ($30)
Someone has a budget ($30) TO BUY a PRINT of 64j00knc and scan it for us?
Search:
flames spew 767
in http://www.dailynewspix.com/
and you find it at once.
Maybe we can find ORBS and holoprojectors in the image!!
I find that sickening to go
I find that sickening to go as far as doubting the 911 calls from victims in the towers....
should there be no doubt? do we not doubt the validity of certain other calls? to be honest i find it hard to believe that someone who is speaking in a clear, choke free voice is truly having difficulty breathing.
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This picture haunts me.
http://wtc10048nyc.free.fr/120.html
indeed very spooky.
where is the tail?
where is the hole?
never underestimate the power of yosemitesam!
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you want ORBS? what are
you want ORBS?
what are these freaky things?
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Again, I don't give any
Again, I don't give any credence to the most extreme views of the 9/11 activist movement, but I have often wondered what
what that small orb you see about 7 seconds on the side of the south tower hovering in the area where the plane eventually connects.
I guess the movement has gone a long way from "there's many unanswered questions" and "they may have let it happen" :)
"You have to have a real
"You have to have a real investigation to find evidence. The crimescene can't be obstructed & then shipped to China."
There already was.
"Fourtunately, video, audio, & eyewitness testimony of numerous explosions is evidence."
Not without physical evidence that what they saw an heard was "explosives."
You're back to square on ein needing to provide evidence of explosives.
"what are these freaky
"what are these freaky things?"
We've all known that those were police helicopters.
9/11Poller: Yeah, there
9/11Poller: Yeah, there already was a cover-up "investigation." Moreover, the crimes scenes were obstructed & then destroyed.
Eyewitness accounts of explosions, + audio & video recordings are excellent proof!
BTW, do you realize you're an accessory after the fact of 9/11? Trying to cover for those who committed mass murder is very serious crime. (Just thought I'd let you know so you can get a head start for your lengthy prison sentence.)
"Eyewitness accounts of
"Eyewitness accounts of explosions, + audio & video recordings are excellent proof!"
Not of "explosives". Not at all.
wow 911poller you certainly
wow 911poller you certainly are smug about the explosive evidence or lack thereof! oh and this as well:
We've all known that those were police helicopters.
it sure is a good thing that you're here to set everyone straight! everyone, i'd like to propose a toast to 911poller! round of applause! (golf clap)
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I think that this evidence
I think that this evidence is a force to be reckoned with.
It shows that the standing theory from day 1 would've been that the buildings came down in a controlled demolition if a real honest investigation was launched from that point forward.
The fact that the media was complicit in the coverup and that these oral histories were sealed up until August of 2005.. is just a sign to how explosive the eyewitness testimony is.
I mean these histories were recorded so that whatever was said in the media, the truth about what people saw and heard on that day would last forever AND THEY WERE SEALED FOR 4 YEARS. Jesus christ, why weren't they released and made public immediately? It's total, complete and utter bullshit.
People who believe in the official fairy tale, what the fuck do you make of that?
You can't discount this because "transformers exploded" that's one hypothesis, that is IMO less valid than a controlled demolition hypothesis, it maybe should be treated as equal with the "bombs in the tower" hypothesis, but why should it be the "de facto default theory" BECAUSE YOU DENIERS ARE INTELLECTUAL COWARDS. Step up to the fucking plate, America as you know it is dead.
I guess they would have us
I guess they would have us believe that "transformers" imploded WTC-7 too???
However, Larry "pull-it" Silverstein explained that he and the fire chief brought that one down. (You're such a kidder, Larry!)
or the diesel tank
or the diesel tank hypothesis...
what a coincidence that some
what a coincidence that some former elevator repairman on a different blog was trying to convince himself that wtc7's transformers were responsible for the "tremendous fires" and that #7 imploded because it was "built on a ladder-like scaffold". - oh that explains that! case closed!
James: NIST should've hired
James:
NIST should've hired him to do the report. :-)
I find that sickening to go
I find that sickening to go as far as doubting the 911 calls from victims in the towers....
benthere | Homepage | 06.03.06 - 9:57 pm | #
should there be no doubt? do we not doubt the validity of certain other calls? to be honest i find it hard to believe that someone who is speaking in a clear, choke free voice is truly having difficulty breathing.
James Ha | Homepage | 06.04.06 - 2:42 am | #
I see no reason to doubt it. People trapped above the impact zone died. It happened. They're dead.
What do you expect a phone call from someone lying on the floor of a smoke-filled room in a burning building to sound like? If they didn't see flames, and there wasn't a hole in the bottom of their floor, the room could easily be free enough of smoke to lie on the floor and speak clearly.
What if you're wrong? You're doubting the last words of a helpless victim. Why? What does it gain you? To me, someone who believes the towers had secondary explosions in them, it still makes me sick to think that you'd question their last words. Now imagine how much it turns off someone who believes terrorists did it.
It's high-risk, low-rewards speculation.
Is it just me, or are others
Is it just me, or are others here a little tired of the plethora of Anonymous posters or ones with spooky sounding names like 911Poller?
What on earth does that name mean? Which particular poll do you refer to?
CNN?
Zogby?
I think the calls from the
I think the calls from the towers are probably legit, because there is no real motive to fake them.
If you want to hear b.s. phone calls, listen to the recording of stewardess "Betty Ong."
it still makes me sick to
it still makes me sick to think that you'd question their last words.
my friend, i am not questioning anyone's last words, but i think that doubt is very important - i fully respect your point about finding it sickening though.
It makes me far sicker that
It makes me far sicker that 9/11 was clearly an inside job.
Re: THERMITE ... inclined
Re: THERMITE ... inclined cut on steel beams ... photo...
Workers at the site of the World Trade Center use a torch to separate metal pieces before loading them onto trucks. DAVID KARP / AP
http://www.timesunion.com/news/september11/timeline/oct14_20.htm
Yes, the thermite couldn't
Yes, the thermite couldn't do a perfect job on every beam. Some were still too long to fit on the trucks.