PLEASE STOP DISPLAYING THE FLAG UPSIDE DOWN

My fellow truth activist, as you all know often times impressions carry as much or more weight than facts or meaning. Today's NY Times article illustrates my point. First the headline (which apparently wasn't written by the reporter) called the 500 of us "Conspiracy Buffs"...and pictures Tanya flying the flag upside down. I watched a man on my flight home breeze past that article, he only had enough time to read a headline and see a pictureÂ…I fear he got the wrong impression.

I have corrected several people, especially during the post 9/11 Nationalism phase, about their incorrect flag displays. Mostly this was presenting the stars on the wrong side (must be the Boy Scout in me).

Anyway, I request that you end presenting Our Flag upside down for 2 reasons:

1st, as a candidate for US Congress I will have a hard enough time presenting the 9/11 facts to some very patriotic people. When they associate me with what can be very easily mistaken as an unpatriotic act, you aren't helping any truth activist get elected.

2nd, I believe it is criminal...you justify this act by quoting United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1 8a "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property"...neither as you protest in Downtown Chicago under police protection nor as you wave your flag in an air conditioned hotel are you in "extreme danger"...you are enjoying many of the freedoms and liberties that will still have. In fact the web site that you (www.v911t.org) link specifically states that this type of display doesnÂ’t include protesting.

Of course, anyone who wears the flag as a costume certainly is performing a criminal act. Please sir donÂ’t wear that again.

I understand your sentiment, but I would much rather spend my precious time telling people about the scientific work of Dr. Jones than getting my ass kicked by bubba, as I campaign for Congress, who thinks my kind are unpatrioticÂ…thank you for your consideration in this matter.

I hope the social component of the Chicago gathering did not serve to mask the way the 911 truth movement has been sabotaged.

The videos relased last month of the Pentagon impact show nothing more than we knew since March 7, 2002, when we were provided with an image which reveals that it was *NOT* a 757 which hit the Pentagon. Honest 911 truthers should by now be growing rather intolerant of self-proclaimed 911 truthers who suppress/ignore this govt-lie-busting evidence.

Speaking of govt-lie-busting evidence, how about that incredible inexplicable flash-frame in the Naudet video of the 1st WTC impact? When self-proclaimed 911 truthers do not ask for any explanation from the lying government, and downplay/suppress the evidence, and marginalize those who present the evidence, you should wonder about them.

Similarly, I wonder about self-proclaimed 911 truthers (regardless of how popular or how credentialed or even how many!) who diparage/denigrate/dismiss Bush's own repeated self-implicating incriminating 9/11 witness statements. In fact, I've even posted a http://911blimp.net/$500reward.shtml

At every turn, there seems to be someone to find a way to (socially) get others to disregard some of the best govt-lie-breaking evidence. And there are plenty of fake 911 truthers who, at every turn, even as they are telling us how what's wrong with the govt's theory of 9/11, only provide a limited-hangout (ie, nothing terribly unconventional about anything) version of events themselves.

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I disagree. We ARE in extreme danger when it comes out that 'only Osama can save bush'es polls.'
We all know Osama is likely dead some time ago.
As to freedoms and liberties, tell that to all those harrassed, falsely accused, imprisoned, murdered, or Thompsoned.

And -WE- are all technically terrorists according to their memos/docs. I believe we are in DIRE danger from Cheney and the corp criminal psyops gang.

Maybe talk with Matt at v911t.org and see what he says.

It isnt even the flag we should be flying in the first place. The Peacetime flag went away a long time ago (vertical stripes)
http://www.afn.org/~govern/hornswog.html

Anyone know if this story is confirmed?
Long time Lt. Col. Air Force Veteran says 9/11 was allowed to happen and that the US trained some of the hijackers:
http://www.voxfux.com/features/officer_slams_bush.html

Holes begin to appear in Canadian terrorism case
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5C06%5C06%5Cstory_6-6...

"PLEASE STOP DISPLAYING THE FLAG UPSIDE DOWN"

If people are so offended by a flag turned upside down then we are really in trouble.
Present your beliefs the way you see fit but don't ask others to conform to you PC campaign.

Tonya, I wouldn't take our aspiring politician's criticism of your flag display too seriously.

He wishes to patronize people who are outraged & horrified by an upside-down piece of cloth, but they don't give a damn about thousands of murdered & maimed Iraqi children! (These jingoists wonÂ’t vote for a 9/11 truther anyway.)

Its OLB.... Taliban "Give us proof"... eh we got no proof so we will invade.

Sadam is in cahoots with OLB... He's got WMD.... Oh shit, we cant find any WMD.

London... Chemical Bomb Factory, 250 police storm a small terraced house, shooting one of its occupants, blame the shooting on his brother...guess what...ehhhh, we cant find the bomb

Toronto, arrest them, they are building a bomb from fertiliser...ooops...not enough fertiliser in the whole godamn state...

I could go on...

What kind of response are the ads getting on rawstory?

That's a good question. I'm sure they're getting plenty. I actually think that Rawstory is starting to become more open to the idea of 9/11 being an "inside job". They sort of "defended" us yesterday when they posted the NYTimes piece. I think they titled their posting as, "NYTimes Refers To 9/11 Truth As 'Conspiracy Buffs'", or something like that.

Or maybe they just like the $$$ dz is giving them. ;)

I feel a Monsters Inc. moment coming soon. When the world wakes up to the lies that have been sold to us and throws the chameleons out the door. I've felt it before but the pressure is just enormous for 9/11 truth to escape.

Hey, Jon Stewart was quoted at Huff Post using the same phrase that Goering used and truthers use which is essentially about making people afraid. Tell them there under attack, denounce pacifists. That it works the same in every country.
Anonymous | 06.06.06 - 10:51 am | #

yesterday on alex jones's show, a caller asked about Jon Stewart and Alex said that he's talked to his producers numerous times, and that they are fully in on the 'new world order'. He did only say that he has talked to the producers, not jon, but you'd have to think that he knows too. He said he couldn't talk anymore about his "private conversations", but said that they are trying to get as much info out as they can.

Jon,

You said you sat in on a "strategy session" or something at the chicago conference? What was discussed there?

I think I read in the NYT (maybe a different site...) that people discussed setting up some kind of fund for supporting 9-11 truth candidates? Can you speak more specifically about that if you know anything?

re: Ann Coulter....

She is just evil and insane. My favorite quote from her: "We should kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

"To everyone who posts here... Nico Haupt is recording everything that's being said here. The purpose of him doing so is to use our statements against us. He just tried to drive a wedge between me, and someone else with a quote of mine."

WTF is up with this guy. Is he some kind of agent provocateur? Why is he going to great lengths to incite infighting?

For those who like writing letters to the editor, this media published a hit piece, or the author is very ignorant of the facts surrounding 9/11. They did mention some poll stats
http://www2.townonline.com/lynnfield/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=509...

E-mail Barbara Taormina at btaormin@cnc.com

Contact form for Town Online
http://www.heraldinteractive.com/contactus/index.bg

I dunno what century that worldview was acceptable...

I'm new to this blog but have to say that show w/ Victor Thorne, Lisa Giuliani is where I have heard of Nico Haupt. Perhaps they come from the same club(Cointel Pro)?

Drew, Coulter is horror show. She must think we're still in the Crusades.

Looks like threat to take "loose change" off of google has caused it to be popular again. Currently no. 4 on Google video.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/05/911_documentary_removed/

re: # 4
Excellent. Project Kharma is obviously off to a rousing start.

The part that sticks out in Loose Change is that part about planes being grounded for the first time since 1903. What planes were flying in 1903? Or am I fuzzy on what I heard?

LAUER: Do you believe everything in the book or do you put some things in there just to cater to your base?

ANN: No, of course I believe everything.

LAUER: On the 9-11 widows, an in particular a group that had been critical of the administration: “These self-obsessed women seem genuinely unaware that 9-11 was an attack on our nation and acted like as if the terrorist attack only happened to them. They believe the entire country was required to marinate in their exquisite personal agony. Apparently, denouncing bush was part of the closure process.” And this part is the part I really need to talk to you about: “These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband’s death so much.” Because they dare to speak out?

watch it here

http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/coul...

COULTER: To speak out using the fact they are widows. This is the leftÂ’s doctrine of infallibility. If they have a point to make about the 9-11 commission, about how to fight the war on terrorism, how about sending in somebody we are allowed to respond to. No. No. No. We have to respond to someone who had a family member die. Because then if we respond, oh you are questioning their authenticity.

LAUER: So grieve but grieve quietly?

COULTER: No, the story is an attack on the nation. That requires a foreign policy response.

LAUER: By the way, they also criticized the Clinton administration.

COULTER: Not the ones I am talking about. No, no, no.

LAUER: Yeah they have.

COULTER: Oh no, no, no, no, no. They were cutting commercials for Kerry. They were using their grief to make a political point while preventing anyone from responding.

LAUER: So if you lose a husband, you no longer have the right to have a political point of view?

COULTER: No, but donÂ’t use the fact that you lost a husband as the basis for being able to talk about, while preventing people from responding. Let Matt Lauer make the point. Let Bill Clinton make the point. DonÂ’t put up someone I am not allowed to respond to without questioning the authenticity of their grief.

LAUER: Well apparently you are allowed to respond to them.

COULTER: Yeah, I did.

LAUER: So, in other words.

COULTER: That is the point of liberal infallibility. Of putting up Cindy Sheehan, of putting out these widows, of putting out Joe Wilson. No, no, no. You canÂ’t respond. ItÂ’s their doctrine of infallibility. Have someone else make the argument then.

LAUER: What IÂ’m saying is I donÂ’t think they have ever told you, you canÂ’t respond.

COULTER: Look, you are getting testy with me.

FBI releases 112 pages on Cheney to rawstory? Developing...

LAUER: No. I think itÂ’s a dramatic statement. These broads are millionaires stalked by stalked by griefparrazies? I have never seen people enjoying their husbandÂ’s deaths so much.

COULTER: Yes, they are all over the news.

LAUER: The book is called “Godless: The Church of Liberalism.” Ann Coulter, always fun to have you here

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/06/coulter-911

Yizzo,

How about just providing a link rather than putting the whole conversation out???

I don't think its a problem to highlight sections or some comments, but not the whole conversation. People can go to the link if they want to read it.

Just my 2 cents.

coulter is nuts

The part that sticks out in Loose Change is that part about planes being grounded for the first time since 1903. What planes were flying in 1903? Or am I fuzzy on what I heard?
itsaputon | 06.06.06 - 12:53 pm | #

Pehaps Dylan Avery misspoke in thinking of 1903, December 17, the first flight ever made (Wright Bros.)
Why don't you sue him?

I don't think its a problem to highlight sections or some comments, but not the whole conversation. People can go to the link if they want to read it.

Yes, especially if it's something very irritating from that Coulter beast.

"Jon,

You said you sat in on a "strategy session" or something at the chicago conference? What was discussed there?

I think I read in the NYT (maybe a different site...) that people discussed setting up some kind of fund for supporting 9-11 truth candidates? Can you speak more specifically about that if you know anything?"

David Kubiak discussed us getting an independent commission of our own I believe... setting up the funding for that.

As far as the strategy session I attended... we talked about how best to approach people, now that you know, what can you do, good ideas on how to get the word out... like putting 9/11 Truth on money, among many other suggestions...

There will be a video of it.

It was great to finally meet you guys in Chicago... I had an awesome time!

grounded for the first time since 1903, when flights debuted...

he should've just said grounded for the first time ever.

Why don't you sue him?

Perhaps because he was merely musing aloud and had no such sinister thought.

"It was great to finally meet you guys in Chicago... I had an awesome time!"

You're a good man Dustin.

Just an FYI... Tonya is getting harassing phone calls because of her appearance in the NYTimes. That is uncalled for. You bastards want to pick on someone, pick on me.

Why don't you sue him?
Perhaps because he was merely musing aloud and had no such sinister thought.

Ah, Franky. I was being sarcastic as per the Naudets. On that subject, "their" video has been broadcast all over tv & internet. Why threaten to sue Avery 5 years later? Moreover, the Naudets seem like bright young dudes, why do they really believe the "official story"? Even their firefighter buddies expressed doubts on video.

Ann Coulter: the most vile woman I'd still like to fuck

"Tonya is getting harassing phone calls because of her appearance in the NYTimes."

Probably just jerks calling her, but could be some gov'y provocateurs among them also.

So 9/11 conspiracy talk is banned at Daily Kos, but someone can post something like this with no snark attacks:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/6/122915/0378

Ridiculous!

Noted, Anonymous 06.06.06 - 1:40 pm :) Spread the good vibes!

I wonder if they will wrtie an article about 1000 conspiracy buffs meet when the L.A. conference takes place.

inside,

i think part of the purpose of Chicago was to pick neutral ground that would be somewhat central for the northeast.. also, chicago does have a 9/11 group, and i met probably 10-20 locals.. i believe they were hoping to facilitate 9/11 being more openly discussed in chicago, since they are in NYC every week already anyways..

also, there is a rumor that the next meeting will be in the southeast, where there is very little 9/11 activism, but i fully support that as there are many of us in the south east who could help promote it and hopefully expose a lot of new people to the information..

anyways, i dont think there was anything wrong with Chicago for the conference, however if your goal was the largest 9/11 march possible then obviously you would pick NYC or SF, but the march was not the focus of the conference, it was just something to do to kill time while others arrived and before the keynote speeches began.

They picked a centralized location within the United States/Canada, etc... so more people could show up. If it was in California, I wouldn't have been able to go. I'm sure there are others in the same boat.

I don't pay any attention to threats. The Bush boys are bullies and every bully is a coward at heart. I fear no man. I will die when the man upstairs calls me and not one second sooner. When I was a kid a school yard bully would always pick on me. My dad said to hit him as hard as I could. I did what my dad said. The bully stayed clear of me after that. The same goes for Bush and his thugs. Always stay on the attack. Never back down.

"I don't pay any attention to threats. The Bush boys are bullies and every bully is a coward at heart. I fear no man. I will die when the man upstairs calls me and not one second sooner. When I was a kid a school yard bully would always pick on me. My dad said to hit him as hard as I could. I did what my dad said. The bully stayed clear of me after that. The same goes for Bush and his thugs. Always stay on the attack. Never back down."

That's great, but when I get a phone call from a woman crying profusely because she's getting harassed, etc... I just don't know what to do.

come on, dz. If not in NYC, should have picked some place like university row around Boston MA, or progressive college town like Raleigh-Durham/Chapel Hill, NC! This would've given us great academic exposure!

dz

i dont know... my point is that chicago or the southeast is good breeding grounds for 911 truth...

lets face it, those places are not known for being the most open minded areas in the country...

its hard enough to get people to see the truth in the most liberal of areas...

Anonymous,

well, i wasnt involved in the picking of the city, so im not positive as to what all was weighed, but i would rather give the organizers the benefit of the doubt instead of second guessing their decisions seeing as to how successful it was and how much effort had to have gone into getting it all together.. im sure they made that decision for one reason or another.. if it was solely meant for marches or for newbies then obviously other cities would have been better, but i think Chicago was probably chosen because of its ease of access via airplane, and its central location in the northeast.. and like i said, the march was sort of a 2nd hand thing, not any sort of primary focus - which was getting all the 9/11 folk together..

anyways.. :)

btw, the rumor is that Atlanta will be the host of a major conference in the future - since it is in the southern region and a major hub for transportation..

no real details or confirmation, but it would make me happy since thats my hometown.

well, i wasnt involved in the picking of the city, so im not positive as to what all was weighed, but i would rather give the organizers the benefit of the doubt instead of second guessing their decisions

Yes dz, and I only raise some mild criticism at this belated time so that maybe venue can be more carefully considered for future events.

Atlanta sounds like a good choice, but outside of NY & CA, I kind of favor the Boston area because it has about a dozen top universities within about a 25-mile radius. We could gain more Profs. Jones & Griffin + many new students that way.

That's great, but when I get a phone call from a woman crying profusely because she's getting harassed, etc... I just don't know what to do.
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^Jon, it was probably kids who blew up her mailbox. And even if it wasn’t just get the police involved. If she's feeling paranoid about that shit being connected to 9/11 truth activism, tell her to chill out and not worry about it, it’s not worth it whether it’s stupid kids or “agents trying to freak people out”.

Upside-down, right-side-up, take your pick;
freedom of expression, help people get the right idea:

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Nexus Points Emerge For Potential Summer Attack
All indications suggest uncomfortable season of fear ahead

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 6 2006

Numerous nexus points have emerged that suggest major western governments are preparing for a summer terror attack that will come close to but not match 9/11 in scale and will provide the justification needed for an air strike on Iran before the midterm elections in early November.

While there is a danger of becoming the boy who cried wolf, disturbing trends over the last couple of months do strongly indicate that the twist in the tale, which is always to be expected in an election year, will be a staged attack on a major developed city or the soccer World Cup. Here are the red flags.

- An increase in taped messages from supposed Al-Qaeda figures Osama bin Laden and Musab Al-Zarqawi.

- Terror arrests in England and Canada that seem to have little purpose other than making a future attack seem inevitable in the minds of the public.

- A report in the Washington Post detailing how 4,000 federal government officials will enter shadow government bunkers on June 19th for a continuity of government drill in anticipation of a major terrorist attack. Every major terrorist attack is preceded by or runs parallel to a government drill in order to provide governments with plausible deniability if they get caught facilitating the attack.

- Martial law evacuation exercises being conducted in Washington DC under the cover of manufactured crises.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/060606summerattack.htm

Another Terrorist Attack Coming Soon?
CBS News: U.S. Officials Believe Recent Incidents Point To An Imminent Threat

June 5, 2006

(CBS) U.S. officials believe Canadian arrests over the weekend and three recent domestic incidents in the United States are evidence the U.S. will soon be hit again by a terrorist attack. Privately, they say, they'd be surprised if it didn't come by the end of the year, reports CBS News correspondent Jim Stewart in a CBS News exclusive.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/05/terror/main1683852.shtml

To all serious 9/11 truthers:

Please do not permit yourself become distracted from 9/11 by worrying about potential (or promised, if you listen to Dick Cheney, John Kerry, et al) future attacks.

Distract, divert, divide & conquer...
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So.... no opinions on http://www.wkjo.com?

I'm stunned.

Rumpl4skn, you must be new here????

This has already been discussed several days ago, when it first came out.

That is why people are not answering your post, it has already been discussed.

That's great, but when I get a phone call from a woman crying profusely because she's getting harassed, etc... I just don't know what to do.
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Well, my best advice for her would be to pack and leave the US and get a job in Ireland/UK or on the continent.

The last numbers for 2006 show rapid decline in oil production about 1mil barrels from 2005, the peak oil is here and it will be very nasty on the street of the US, which is the most oil addicted society in the history of this solar system..

So, to be 9/11 activist will mark you as one giant target for all the psychos who will hit the streets and riot..

shut the fuck up blimp you annoying son of a bitch. you are no different than Nico. you both work for the same team.hologram pushing morons.

No, not new here. Was out of town the past 12 days.

I will bang my head on the floor until forgiven.

Google Trends search for 9/11 truth:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=9%2F11+truth

...and, one hundred and one headbangs! Ok Rumpl4skn, that's enough, you are forgiven. I think the comments on this film were scattered among topics about 4 days ago. It's certainly a fine effort and deserves its own comments section.

hey apparently Kos (founder and ringleader of Dailykos) has CIA ties..."almost in the CIA"

And he has a very different depiction of them than I do:

"I think, as an instrument, the CIA is interested in a stable world. I think a lot of conservatives would paint that as evidence that the CIA is out to undermine bush, but ultimately I don't think it' sa very partisan thing to want a calm and stable world."

As far as past hostility towards CIA plots against Democratic administrations, "[that] was before my time, I've never had a problem with the CIA." However, he reminded us "keep in mind I came to this country in 1980. From a modern persepctive obviously things are a little different."

Anyway, I don't think Kos is necessarily a plant (it's dangerous to start calling everyone CIA assets). But i found that interesting in that its the official policy of his site is to discourage real debate (about stolen elections and 9.11) and otherwise "mobilize" the dems.

Also he thinks 3rd parties are doomed. I guess he is all about the democratic party no matter what...

"I will bang my head on the floor until forgiven.
Rumpl4skn | 06.06.06 - 4:22 pm "

No need to do that....

You just did not know!

We need all the non-bruised heads we can get. :)

Canada Terrorist Attacks: Sting Operation or Entrapment

Transcript of Comments by Opposition MPs

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060606...

It's a possiblility that the NYT wanted the bush administration to believe the 'conspiracy buffs' article was a hit piece toward the movement. It seems to me that NYT wants to get the word out about the 9/11 questions in most subtle possible ways. They've covered few anomalies surrounding 9/11 in the article and suggested the internet as the best resource for research. So it could be a good sign...

Or maybe this is all just wishful thinking...heh...

Re: Jon/Tonya's dilemma...

If you're listed in the phone book, and you use your last name in promoting 9/11 truth, your mailbox could become at increased risk, it's true.

It's also riskier to fly an upside-down U.S. flag (despite how appropriate it is to do so since 9/11) in the real world than in cyberspace (911t is wise to have an explanation appear by its U.D. flag, as many people are ignorant about it, and thus misinterpret it).

Regarding the local authorities, one thing you can try, over time, is to continually pursue 9/11 truth with some local CFR big-wig (say, the President of a nearby college), or with NASA astronauts, by email and/or phone. You don't even have to use your last name or otherwise identify yourself. Based upon experience, I can tell you that what will [probably] happen is that eventually their institution will contact the local police, who will be told that the shadow-govt type with whom you've been in contact does not want to press charges, but does not want any further contact from you. The police will probably also be provided with a copy of the 9/11 information you've repeatedly sent, which will be read. Which means that the police will know that you are a very patriotic concerned citizen with what definitely seems to be very important information, and that the respectable institution is trying to pretend that it is ignorant. At that point, you can expect a very empathetic and borderline-friendly 'warning' visit from a representative of the local police.

A few other personal observations:

I've been wearing an "Ask me about 9/11" hat for years now. Not a lot of people do ask, but those who do have always been very receptive to what I've had to say about 9/11.

I've been wearing "9/11 was an Inside Job" t-shirts excessively for the past 10 months (since I got an ink jet printer). As you might imagine, since most people are only pretending to be asleep about 9/11 (which is, in large part, why we've had such a difficult time trying to wake them, IMHO), most people pretend they don't see it (unlike my hat, it's impossible to miss the message on a well-made shirt). But it does get seen, and commented on. It's a great way to meet nonbrainwashed people. NOT ONCE has anyone ever made a disparaging comment about any of my 9/11 shirts! Even wearing such shirts into restaurants, where a subject as un-appetizing as 9/11 is even less welcome than elsewhere, there has never been any problem (with customers or management) or negative reaction, though sometimes a positive reaction (from customers and management).

The polls are as rigged as the elections, and serve to help keep us from recognizing just how close to a tipping point we might be (we are!). By wearing in-your-face 9/11 truth shirts, we can do our own sociology experiments, and take society's temperature on such things for ourselves.

Last year I once stood on a busy Colorado Springs street corner wearing such a shirt holding such a sign for a Friday rush-hour. I only got a few middle-digits; many more thumbs-up. By the way, COS is one of the most conservative/military cities in the nation (NORAD, NorthComm, USAFA, CSOC, Peterson Field, Fort Carson, etc, etc), so one would expect the results I get here to be biased.

IOW, part of the big ongoing disinfo campaign surrounding 9/11 is to keep everyone from knowing that, on some level, nearly everyone is suspicious about 9/11. And that's an easy to thing to do: respect (incl for the dead) and grief are great gatekeepers; they socially coerce most people from confronting, much less openly expressing, their doubts regarding such an event. (Doubts? On some submerged/subconscious level, MANY people know that the official version of 9/11 can't be true, which is why many are so afraid to wake up and confront/embrace reality.)
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I'm gonna watch the John Oneil video tonight !! Glad someone just posted the link ..... He was a good man :(

Above and beyond the obvious total impropriety of the above comment by "Anonymous", it was incorrect simplistic nonsense of him to (try to) lump me together with Nico Haupt.

Further, it makes me wonder what reward (and its source?) people such as "Anonymous" receive from trying to get We The People to not consider all the 9/11 possibilities.
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9/11 conspiracy movie taken off the web!!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/05/911_documentary_removed/

In a certified letter sent to Dylan Avery, lawyers for Jules and Gedeon Naudet, makers of the renowned documentary 9/11 - The Filmmakers' Commemorative Edition, say they have never endorsed nor sponsored the controversial views in the film. The brothers captured what is thought to be the only footage of the first plane hitting the North tower
"It is clear that your intent is not to spread a controversial message but rather to profit," the lawyers conclude. They have identified at least 14 videofragments, including interviews with firemen. The Naudet Brothers, backed by distributor Paramount, are demanding $150,000 for each act of willful infringement.

How do you like them apples? The Naudet brothers want more money for their movie. Yet I've seen Loose Change for free, and got my copy for free. How are they making money off of Loose Change?

Yet I've seen Loose Change for free, and got my copy for free. How are they making money off of Loose Change?
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DVD sales, ticket sales at screenings, t-shirts, etc...

The Loose Change guys need to find some Pro Bono lawyers who aren't afraid of controversial publicity. This case could blow the lid of the 9/11 Truth.
Naudets are saying that Loose Change is infringing, especially because Naudets don't believe the "conspiracy" reprensented in Loose Change.

GO TO COURT. We need a day in court, to be able to present facts SO IMPORTANT TO OUR NATION, and to challenge anyone (foreign or domestic) who would say that this information is Not Vital to the American Public's Safety.

I hope these Naudet idiots DON'T BACK DOWN. This gives the 9/11 Truth its day in Court!!!!!!!!

I can't wait for Loose Change to debut at the Movie Cinema in September. That Movie Changed My Life Forever.

I thought they already withdrew their claim after Dylan + Avery got permission?

what was it KOS was saying about the CIA? that he has no problem with them?

Documents show post-war CIA covered up Nazi war crimes

By Shmuel Rosner, Haaretz Correspondent

The United States was aware that West Germany held information on the whereabouts of Adolf Eichmann in the 1950s, but chose to keep the matter secret, fearing that the arrest of the Nazi fugitive might lead to
embarrassing revelations about links between senior German officials and other Nazis.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=723756&contrassID=...

now i know Palast doesnt approach 9/11 with the veracity he could/should, but you gotta admit he does some damn fine work overall.so i'll post this for him, should be a good book for those of you that think beyond 9/11:

Palast vs. Coulter - Battle of the Books begins today
TODAY, ANNE COULTER AND I BOTH LAUNCH OUR BOOKS -- hers to promote the latest flavor of hate and militant ignorance; mine -- 'Armed Madhouse: Who's Afraid of Osama Wolf?, The Scheme to Steal '08 and other Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War -- the investigations, first broadcast on BBC, simply banned from US airways and print. (There's no truth to the rumor Coulter chose to release her book on 06-06-06 in honor of her father's birthday.)

I'm asking you to buy (or order) 'Armed Madhouse' THIS WEEK, right NOW in fact.

Why right now? Amazon and the industry have set up this Coulter vs. Palast 'launch week' as the Battle of The Books: Can progressives match the forces of darkness (they call them "conservatives")?

Coulter has a million-dollar Right Wing campaign behind her -- thereby allowing her and other hate-salesmen to control the media and the national discussion. The Coulter crew buys and dumps massive amounts of books, buying her way onto the bestseller list. I have only you.

Asia Times says, "Greg Palast, the man widely considered as the top investigative journalist in the United States, is persona non grata in his own country's media." But it's not ME that's 'non grata,' it's the information about the Washington regime -- that is shut out of the Fox-ified press. They may not count ballots, but they sure as hell count sales. That's the blunt, ugly truth of it: that's how you get the attention of America's media.

Pick up Armed Madhouse this week at your local bookstore or through Amazon or Barnes and Noble You can get to these from my website www.gregpalast.com/armedmadhouse/preorder.html

>>Yet I've seen Loose Change for free, and got my copy for free. How are they making money off of Loose Change?

LC will come out at theaters nationwide and the filmmakers will be celebrities for the rest of their lives -- that's potentially an unimaginable amount of money. The price of printing and selling a tiny piece of metal with some grooves etched in it has nothing to do with the money making potential for the filmmakers when the film hits the big time.

Von Kleist made over $1 million off of people like you and me with In Plane Site.

Think about it.

The X-Files versions of 9/11 - no planes, pods, missiles, secret herdings of passengers - can make a lot of money for a few with the hype they generate, while providing a ton of grist for defenders of the official story to roast us in their opinion pieces and 'news' stories.

These films spread the message, true, but what message? And who is attracted by them? We risk growing a 'movement' packed with people who have little interest in actual content of the claims they are making, only hype and getting Bush out. Meanwhile those interested in credibility and evidence have a hurdle to go over upon seeing films about hoaxes and hype mixed with the same questions that the families asked and never got answered.

And in the end, some will become rich. I think the LC filmmakers are sincere and may have the best intentions. But if they really do, they'll edit out the unsubstantiated hype that doesn't help any of us before it hits the mainstream.

reader, you & whoever wrote that article are reading too much into Siegels video. The man does not claim to be a scientist. He just recorded buildings undergoing controlled demolitions. It looks like evidence to me. Why knock it if you're really a truther.

Man, why doesnt WingTv just link to holocaust denier sites and be done with it? Everything is "Jews this, Israel this". They seem to be obsessed with solely attacking people in the 9/11 truth movement, not even being interested in finding out what really happened. The WingTV folks seem more like the folks youd find making midwestern homemade webcam porn.

Everything is "Jews this, Israel this"
I know, same exact thing with Eric Husfschmidt too.
If anything, they need to be far more specific than these blanket anti-jew statements.

I asked Prof. Jones his opinion of the "atom bomb theory". He said he had seen no evidence of radioactivity at the site and was therefore remaining sceptical.