Italy Mainstream Media Speaks of 9/11 Cover-up - Guest Blog Entry
Just got the following email, I'll post it as is:
Italian mainstream media is starting to speak quite a lot about the 9/11 truth.
On May 24 2006, the program Matrix, on channel Canale 5, aired a debate between journalist Giulietto Chiesa (who is working in a research called Gruppo Cinque, on 9/11) and ex center-right parliamentary Marco Taradash. The interesting thing is that they showed a few minutes of Loose Change 2nd edition, and they covered the building 7 collapse. It's a pity the show was aired at 12:15 at night! This is the link (unfortunately, it's all in italian): http://www.matrix.mediaset.it/videogallery/2006/05/24/videogallery.shtml
Anyways, I thought it was an isolated case. Instead, the same show dedicated another two entire evenings on the same subject, with different guests, but getting better to the core of the case. The shows were aired May 31 and June 2. The May 31 show talked about producer Marco Mazzucco's documentary called "Inganno globale" (Global fraud), and about the different italian blogs that are out there. Among the guests was director of Cnn Italy, Marco Vinci, Here's the link: http://www.matrix.mediaset.it/videogallery/2006/05/31/videogallery.shtml
The show had a HUGE audience for its standards. That's why they decided to give it another shot on June 2, which covered the 9/11truth Congress that was just starting in Chicago. (and they listed ALL 40 top questions that are being asked to the Bush administration) Among the guests were prof. Cardini and prof. Ernesto Galli della Loggia (which is a really big name in Italian society).
Third link: http://www.matrix.mediaset.it/videogallery/2006/06/02/videogallery.shtmlBut that's not all. This morning (June 10), channel La7 dedicated its morning show, Omnibus Weekend, to the big 9/11 cover-up with this title present all the time at the bottom of the screen: "September 11: a conspiracy?". They dedicated more than hour to debate on the whole thing, having four different guests on the show. Quite a bit was dedicated to the Building 7 collapse, and the video of its collapse was shown more than once.
I think it is very interesting that the mainstream media is starting to talk about the 9/11 cover-up now that the center-right government of Silvio Berlusconi has lost the elections (April 10). Berlusconi was one of the most obliging allies of Bush. Maybe now the media feels more free to get the alternative truth out there, because there is no doubt that the people who work in the media, all over the world, have all of the information they need to start speaking out. I hope these programs can be a sign of a future italian awakening, because we have been blinded in all different ways by five years of Berlsuconi, just as the Usa is still suffering the continuous lying that is being done by its government.
I'll keep you updated with any other news from this side of the ocean.
Thanks Nick for the submission!
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On June 12 there will be
On June 12 there will be another special on LA7; here in Italy basically we have 7 mainstream channels, 3 are public - Rai1, Rai2 and Rai3 - 3 are owned by Berlusconi - Rete4, Canale5 and Italia1 - and the last one is LA7.
Lately 911 is doing big time, it doesnt seem some kind of damage control, given that the alternative theories are not being savaged and ridiculed: i.e. on Matrix they didnt even say once "conspiracy theories" but they just spoke about "official truth" and "alternative truth", that is incredible fair, given the usual coverage I noticed all around the world.
Let's see how it will go further, the dam appears to have broken!
Too bad german press create
Too bad german press create a toxic propaganda campaign against us "conspiracy theorists".
I want to see them suffer from backfiring!
I was interviewed by Italian
I was interviewed by Italian press at Chicago conference, and it was to air in Italy today on RAIq
Can someone PLEASE if they
Can someone PLEASE if they can get that show in Italy about 9-11 Conference today, PLEASE TAPE IT! I would like to see how my interview turned out!
"it was to air in Italy
"it was to air in Italy today on RAI"
Are u sure? 'Cuz it seems there won't be nothing of that sort today..
Anyway we use to record every 911 special so if your interview will be broadcasted in one of those, I will let u know :)
Does anyone have audio/video
Does anyone have audio/video of my little talk? I'd like to see how bad I did.
Neocon Prince of Darkness
Neocon Prince of Darkness Sighted at Bilderberg Meeting
Kurt Nimmo | June 10 2006
According to Megan Gillis, writing for the Ottawa Sun, the Straussian neocon “Prince of Darkness,” Richard Perle, is in Ottawa, possibly to attend the Bilderberg Group meeting held there, along with the standard fare of neolibs and globalists, including “David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Queen Beatrix of Holland, former N.B. premier Frank McKenna and a host of other bigwigs,” as Gillis puts it. As Perle is a prime shaker and mover behind the “clash of civilizations” agenda to “reshape” the Muslim Middle East (that is to say, shock and awe it, by way of bunker-buster and depleted uranium, into submission), it makes perfect sense for him to be on the Bilderberger roster, especially now that Iran is next up on the target list.
It appears the globalists are at odds on Iran. “I think of war with Iran as the ending of America’s present role in the world. Iraq may have been a preview of that, but it’s still redeemable if we get out fast. In a war with Iran, we’ll get dragged down for 20 or 30 years. The world will condemn us. We will lose our position in the world,” Zbigniew Brzezinski told Vanity Fair earlier this year. I don’t know if Ziggy will attend the Bilderberg meeting, but chances are the Soros side of the neolib order will attempt to convince the neocons, and thus their sock puppet Bush, to not unleash the Pentagon’s fury against the Islamic nation, not that the traditional neolibs have any love for Iran or its people, but rather they likely believe Brzezinski is correct.
However, now that the Straussian neocons control the levers over at the Pentagon, with their man Rumsfeld at the top of the organizational pyramid, chances are Iran will be lined up in the cross hairs, and before the coming mid-term election.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/100606_b_Neocon.htm
PerleÂ’s appearance a the
Perle’s appearance a the Bilderberg meeting is another indicator something is up. Is Perle in attendance to sell the shock and awe campaign to the neoliberal wing of the globalists, who usually prefer “color revolutions” à la Soros? Or did Rockefeller and Kissinger call Perle, as the neocon ambassador, on the carpet to give him a dressing down and issue a possible warning? In fact, there is no way to know precisely.
However, one thing is for certain—left to their own criminal devices, the neocons will eventually attack Iran, as they effectively control the biggest and baddest military juggernaut history has ever witnessed.
John Albanese... Report:
John Albanese...
Report: Abramoff Ex-Partner Knew Of Slaying
"A man who purchased SunCruz Casinos with lobbyist Jack Abramoff in 2000 has told authorities he knows who killed the casino's founder the following year, according to a report published Friday."
If Abramoff's ex-partner knew, does it stand to reason that Abramoff knew as well?
Yes, I am SURE! That is what
Yes, I am SURE! That is what the guy from Italy told me anyway! That video from 9-11 truth conference would air today!
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"A man who purchased SunCruz
"A man who purchased SunCruz Casinos with lobbyist Jack Abramoff in 2000 has told authorities he knows who killed the casino's founder the following year, according to a report published Friday."
If Abramoff's ex-partner knew, does it stand to reason that Abramoff knew as well?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 06.10.06 - 11:21 am | #
absolutely, i have always wondered why nobody asked this question.it was in his best interest that this man be killed. he knew.
Of course Abramoff would
Of course Abramoff would deny it. He doesn't want to get charged with murder. His partner is probably trying to save his own ass.
Abramoff is one of those
Abramoff is one of those names that seems to be linked to so much corruption in Washington, including 9/11. his fingerprints are everyehere.
Wow, they've closed down Dr.
Wow, they've closed down Dr. Jones' page.
This Italian truth coverage
This Italian truth coverage is extremely encouraging! We should help them as much as possible.
While I was searching around for some further info on the above, I was quite perturbed in logging onto Bella Ciao. There, I didnÂ’t find anything new on the European truthers, but when I searched "9/11", I found lots of Nico Haupt disinfo littering their site!
http://bellaciao.org/en/
http://www.google.com/custom?q=9%2F11&search.x=0&search.y=0&domains=bell...
IMO, this Haupt character is very detrimental to the truth movement!
But you can read it
But you can read it here:
http://www.physics911.net/stevenjones.htm
Or
Or here:
http://www.wtc7.net/articles/stevenjones_b7.html
But these may not be the most current versions. After all it is in peer review and revisions.
Appeals Court Backs Bush On
Appeals Court Backs Bush On Wiretaps
"Judge David Sentelle called the agency's reading of the law a reasonable interpretation."
Oh really... is there any wonder why?
"Last year, Rehnquist reappointed Sentelle, who's a crony of North Carolina's far right-wing Sens. Jesse Helms and Launch Faircloth, despite the fact that Sentelle was widely criticized for his apparent conflict of interest."
In the interest of Truth
In the interest of Truth alliances, here's a petition in need of signatures:
http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html
Jones' page loads fine for
Jones' page loads fine for me :)
Loads fine here as well, but
Loads fine here as well, but an hour ago it asked for password. Probably just maintenance or something.
Neocon Prince of Darkness
Neocon Prince of Darkness Sighted at Bilderberg Meeting
Kurt Nimmo | June 10 2006
According to Megan Gillis, writing for the Ottawa Sun, the Straussian neocon “Prince of Darkness,” Richard Perle, is in Ottawa, possibly to attend the Bilderberg Group meeting held there,....
Chris | Homepage | 06.10.06 - 11:07 am | #
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My last name is Gillis! :)
Amazing, under the radar
Amazing, under the radar development regarding the IRS yesterday.
http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTP2/UPDATES/Update2006-06-09.htm
The DOJ was forced to dissmiss charges against a non-compliant taxpayer, with prejudice. I can't even imagine what their course of action will be from here on.
Anyone notice Alex Jones was
Anyone notice Alex Jones was detained for several hours by Canadian authorities as he crossed the border to film the Bilderberg meeting?
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=f67cbe75-4eed-4da...
There was also speculation the "terror" arrests in Toronto might have been cover for the meeting:
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=14660
Seems unlikely, but PM Stephen Harper spoke to the Bilderberg group in 2003.
http://halloweenforum.com/sho
http://halloweenforum.com/showthread.php?t=55862
funny. the 911 discussions are everywhere. bravo for the people on this crazy site for spreading the word. Though the comments by the guy opposing the truth are pretty funny and enraging.
RE: Abramoff I thought it
RE: Abramoff
I thought it was either Jack or his partner (Kidan) who wrote the check ($100,000?) to the Sicilian mafia thugs that took Boulis out.
the 'Inganno Globale' video
the 'Inganno Globale' video is excellent, some shots that i hadn't seen before, and a great short clip to show anyone to illuminate the WTC Demo.
Inganno Globale actually translates to 'Total Deceit'.
On the media blackout of
On the media blackout of "Was the vote stolen?"
Associate Publisher: Public interest in news topics beyond control of mainstream media
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/273283_bunting09.html
My answer:
Dear Kenneth,
you stated in your very insightful look on yourselves:
"While Kennedy's article perhaps gives far too much weight to suspicious discrepancies between exit polls and the final election outcome."
It's NOT. You can research with very little efforts your own that exit polls are the most probably hint for vote fraud.
Look at the Ukrainian vote and the orange revolution. Or the american press on Chavez.
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One weapon against such fraud is the exit poll. As Doug Schoen of Penn Schoen points out, his firm has conducted exit polls in Mexico and, just a few days ago, in the Dominican Republic, which produced results very close to the election results. His partner Mark Penn points out that the firm conducted two previous exit polls in Venezuela, both of which were on the mark. Warren Mitofsky's firm, Mitofsky International, has produced exit polls with similar results in Mexico and Russia. Mitofsky recalls that in 1994, Mexican President Carlos Salinas, seeking credibility with foreign investors for that year's Mexican elections, asked him for advice on what to do. Allow independent exit polls, Mitofsky advised, sponsored by the media, and allow the results to be announced soon after the voting. Mitofsky's exit poll results, announced soon after the polls closed, did in fact come close to the official results, as did another Mitofsky poll in 2000. More important, they provided independent confirmation of the fairness of the count.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/baroneweb/mb_040820.htm
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We have proof of what did happen. The exit pollers mixed up the exit poll with "real votes" to fit the outcoming of the vote. That's totally laughable. Every human thinking men could easily recognize this fraud. And we have the pictures of it. I send you them in the appendix. Do the math.
(Appendix the 2 CNN screenshots of Ohio Exit Polls before and after "manipulation" and the Freeman Exit Poll report)
It't not only Zogby who smell a rat.
And the grand failure theory, aka long term exit pollers like Mitowski and all the other news outlets who ran the pollsters together are so flat wrong is just of very, very, very low probability. In germany we have a long time margin error of less than 3 %. For sure.
Despite this, I agree totally with your opinion. It's a shame that big money controls what you have to report. What's up with AIPAC? The dancing isrealis on 911?
911 as inside job overall? The fraudulent votes in 2000 and 2004? All the fascist breakdown of our civil liberty rights? PNAC?
As you mentioned, the Downing Street Memos? All of this left unreported or dismissed via the MSM.
Kind regards from germany (I'll keep watching you, the US tought us once to watch the rise of fascism, and I swore "Never again!")
Sitting-Bull (german independent researcher, main topic the vote fraud in the 2004 US presidential vote)
Zarqawi's real name
Zarqawi's real name Lieutenant Kije
Joseph Cannon, Cannonfire | June 10 2006
Here is a briefing slide prepared for Army General George W. Casey Jr., the top U.S. commander in Iraq.
The slide appeared as an adjunct to the Washington Post's famous article from April 10, which described the psyop campaign to create a Zarqawi myth. Since that time, we have seen the emergence of a Zarqawi video of questioned authenticity, in which the oft-"killed" terrorist was seen conducting exercises in a landscape that resembled the American southwest.
Previously, I asked a question that remains unanswered: If, in fact, Zarqawi conducted these maneuvers (which included the firing of anti-tank weaponry in open desert beneath a clear sky) within the borders of Iraq, why didn't American spy satellites catch sight of him immediately? Google Earth has spotted firefights on Baghdad streets. Surely, American overseers must scrutinize Iraq from the sky carefully and routinely.
Shortly after this video hit the net, the American military released outtakes which showed that Z handled his weapon in an amateurish fashion. Everyone was so busy giggling that few thought to ask questions about the source of this convenient footage. Supposedly, American soldiers found it during a raid. Which raid? Why not humor us with a few details?
On second thought, don't bother. Any details provided by officaldom would never convince, since so many recent events have justified cynicism. The Casey slideshow confirmed what many had already suspected: Zarqawi existed solely because he fulfilled a propaganda function. Once that fact became known, it was necessary to bury the revelation. First came the video. When that ploy failed, Zarqawi lost his value as bogeyman and thus had to die.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/100606_b_Kije.htm
the media blackout on the
the media blackout on the stolen election of 04 is infuriating. its almost as bad as 9/11. a couple of rightwing bastards trot out Kennedy to have him on for a 5 minute dressing down, and thats the extent of the coverage.pathetic.the only reason the MSM covered the DSM is because the leftwing blogs forced them too. too bad they dont help us out on 9/11.........
What does "MSM" stand for?
What does "MSM" stand for?
Look at clip #4 on this
Look at clip #4 on this page:http://www.matrix.mediaset.it/videogallery/2006/05/31/videogallery.shtml
Now i don't speak Italian but here they play the collapse of WTC7 several times.
of topic but interesting
of topic but interesting nonetheless
"Zarqawi: A Bogeyman Made by the US":
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/oneill.php?articleid=9119
Unknown before Powell's UN speech.
Bush and his neocons have
Bush and his neocons have ruined America's reputation around the world. The only ones that still respect America are doing it for political reasons.
When Bush called himself a "compassionate conservative" we should have smelled the foul tomato that he turned out to be.
"What does "MSM" stand
"What does "MSM" stand for?"
____
I believe it means "mainstream media"
This is brilliant!! That's
This is brilliant!! That's what a real media does, I don't know any Italian but those debates were just fantastic to watch.
http://911truth.org/phpBB2/in
http://911truth.org/phpBB2/index.php
http://www.911debate.com
http://www.911debate.com
It is great to see the
It is great to see the Italians picking up the ball and running with it; it is my belief that Europe will be a key player in getting the truth out on the streets. There is a lot of anti-American feeling here, I am afraid, as a result of the war. Blair is losing ratings fast, and there is none of the misplaced loyalty to the leader that you see in the States. In Germany or the Netherlands, the public are fully ready to accept the truth, the second that they hear it from the press.
Rumor has it that Blair is
Rumor has it that Blair is going to be promoted, he will become the UN secretary general..
Just imagine the potential when UN is being run by Bolton and Blair duo, cha cha..
if he doesnt get that job,
if he doesnt get that job, hes already been offered a place at the Carlyle Group.seriously.
B-Lair can suck my chuddies!
B-Lair can suck my chuddies!
"it is my belief that Europe
"it is my belief that Europe will be a key player in getting the truth out on the streets."
The truth is already out on the streets.
The truth is already out on
The truth is already out on the streets.
anonymous | 06.10.06 - 9:39 pm | #
Not here it ain't - not quite yet
remember ITALIAN media was
remember ITALIAN media was also responsible for the SOMALIA disaster.
Italian TV showed dead US soldier being dragged through the streets...
and US TV eventually showed it too.
... another US War over.
BTW .. you can save the video in this way:
mms://video.jumpy.it/matrix/matrix310506_001.wmv (44mB)
002 003 etc
use NetTransport programme.
would make a nice CD to send to our italian friends.
Also, PLEASE MAKE ENGLISH SUBTITLES
and make a version for YANKS.
Thanks
The pictures were cause for
The pictures were cause for the disaster? And bad news from Iraq undermine the war effort? And criticizing the president is unpatriotic? Sheesh...
"Not here it ain't - not
"Not here it ain't - not quite yet"
Yes, it's been there all along.
"The truth is already out on
In the U.S. we don't even hold Bush/Cheney responsible for 9/11 incompetence, let alone any hint of LIHOP or MIHOP!!!
How about HIPHOP?
How about HIPHOP?
u mean "How It Probably
u mean "How It Probably Happened On Purpose" lol
Good one.
Good one.
again ... if you arrogant
again ... if you arrogant USA truthers would only make a subtitled version of the 3 italian broadcasts.. and send them to the US media... you will get one of them to crack... and then the others will have to report on it.
if you arrogant USA truthers
if you arrogant USA truthers would only make a subtitled version of the 3 italian broadcasts.. and send them to the US media... you will get one of them to crack.
u2r2h
I agree, its a great idea. Anyone want to take on this project and supply it to 911podcasts?
I'm not arrogant, I ,humbly, just don't understand Italian.
IF anyone NON-ARROGANT
IF anyone NON-ARROGANT ITALIAN TRUTHER wants to provide English Subtitles that would be swell!
actually i dont care if you
actually i dont care if you are arrogant if you do the subtitles ;-)
I can try putting subtitles,
I can try putting subtitles, if only I knew how to. I'm not sure if I can use video programs like Ulead for that. Can anyone help me out on this matter? What is the best thing to do to put subtitles?
i think who ever made this
i think who ever made this article seems to know what the core of the truth is... why not enlighten the people who obviously accept the responsability by mainstreaming questions about one of the most outrageous cover ups of all time
Subtitle can be made using
Subtitle can be made using Subtitle Workshop freely available here http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Other-VIDEO-Tools/Subtitle...
I do not understand Italian, by the way.