FBI Tipped Off about 9/11
The following tip was submitted to the FBI via their website at 6.40pm GMT yesterday, Monday 12th June, 2006 by a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth . . .
Sirs,
This is a tip-off insofar as it draws your attention to publicly-available, corroborated, and incontrovertible (or, I believe in your terms 'hard') evidence, which could form the basis of an important investigation. I have reason to believe that such an investigation would in no way be a waste of the FBI's valuable time.
I refer you to respected physicist Prof. Steven E. Jones' paper on the subject of the collapses of the Towers on 11th September, 2001 (reference: http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html).
If you read Prof. Jones' paper, you will extract the following information which, in my opinion, needs to be investigated:1) As a result of the collapses, pools of molten metal were discovered. You will also read approximate temperatures, indicated by colouring. It is well-known that as metals are heated their colouring changes, rendering (visibly) an approximation to their temperature. You will also find accurate infra-red temperature measurements obtained by means of satellites. Added to this aspect (i.e. the existence and temperatures of these pools) is their persistence, at Ground Zero, for weeks following the events.
2) Neither the original FEMA Investigation, nor the Independent 9/11 Commission, nor the National Institute of Standards and Technology (nor, indeed, articles in Popular Mechanics, etc.) have addressed this incontrovertible evidence in any way whatsoever.
Consequently none of these prior investigations has created a scientifically-conclusive description as to why the Towers collapsed, how they collapsed in the manner we all saw on television, and (most importantly) how these residual pools of molten metal could have been formed. And, furthermore, how the molten metal could have persisted for up to six weeks following the events.
I suggest that you should apply resources to create a definitive explanation, which takes all aspects into account, and considers all possibilities. I believe that the American people, especially the bereaved, deserve your fullest attention to this.
In addition to the foregoing, I understand the Mayor Giuliani was instrumental in arranging shipment of the metallic rubble, from the crime scene to overseas locations, before a serious and stringent forensic examination could be performed. I understand that the removal of evidence prior to a complete investigation is a Federal Crime. I presume that permission for this was given, and that it was done in order to facilitate rescue operations. However, in concert with others, I fail to understand why the rubble was not relocated to a secure location, so that it would remain available for forensic analysis.
I repeat, I believe such an investigation would in no way be a waste of the FBI's valuable time. I would not have sent this tip if I believed to the contrary. I am firmly convinced that a stringent investigation would elicit the following benefits:
a) As of June 5th, 2006, the FBI is on record(*) as admitting there is insufficient evidence to link Usama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda with the 9/11 atrocity. I believe that a scientifically-consistent explanation would conclusively rule out any such link once and for all.
(* Reference link: http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html)b) I firmly believe that a scientifically-consistent explanation would point the FBI clearly in the direction of the true perpetrators.
These are my reasons for supplying this tip. All that is necessary is to start with the evidence and work backwards, in the same manner that any crime is normally investigated. I believe I am in possession of documents that indicate this crime to be perfectly solvable, in particular the paper to which I initially referred you. To the best of my knowledge the City of New York has made no effort to investigate on the basis of the evidence I bring to your attention, and five years have passed in the meantime.
If this tip-off is not followed up it might suggest to many, both inside the USA and elsewhere, that your organisation has been specifically directed NOT to solve these crimes, regardless of widespread awareness of these facts. For example, mainstream Italian TV is now debating the collapse of Building 7, and showing side-by-side comparisons with a known controlled demolition. Here is a reference:
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=113I look forward to a positive response from you in this matter.
Yours faithfully (in the hope that justice is done, and seen to be done),
Veronica Chapman
Member, Scholars for 9/11 Truth
www.st911.org"
Thanks to Nila for the heads-up
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i love it.on another note,
i love it.on another note, check out this convenient piece of propaganda:
Qaeda names man due to have been Sept 11 attacker
Reuters | June 13 2006
A Saudi militant killed in 2004 was due to have been the 20th suicide plane hijacker in the September 11, 2001 attacks, al Qaeda's media arm said in a statement on the Internet on Tuesday.
"Turki bin Fheid al-Muteiri -- Fawaz al-Nashmi -- may God accept him as a martyr (was) the one chosen by Sheikh Osama bin Laden to be the martyrdom-seeker number 20 in the raid on September 11, 2001," the statement said.
"The (September 11) operation was brought forward for some circumstances that brother Mohamed Atta explained to the general leadership," it said, indicating that Muteiri could not join the other hijackers, led by Atta, in time.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/130606attacker.htm
this oughta cause the flag wavers to be fooled into thinking we are fighting "al qaeda" in Iraq.
nice writeup.
nice writeup.
Off topic: Can anyone post
Off topic: Can anyone post over at huffington or have I been IP banned?
Can login, but posting doesn't work.
This morning's news of the
This morning's news of the non-indictment of Rove certainly adds a twist of lemon to the remarks of Richard Andrew Grove. (Does anyone yet have a transcript or podcast of his latest?) It may also illuminate the behind-the-scenes impact of this FBI tip by a Scholar for 9/11 Truth. If you haven't yet had the opportunity, I recommend you read Ms. Fitts' piece at http://dunwalke.com
Keep it up. Great work
Keep it up. Great work Veronica.
that letter will go right to
that letter will go right to the shredder or the digital trash bin.
The al-CIA-da 'press
The al-CIA-da 'press releases' are becoming more frequent recently.
And they never forget to mention their connection to Osama bin Laden, who in turn, is officially blamed for 9/11.
And the best one: 'Uncle' Zawahiri recently had a video released with title
'From Tora Bora to Iraq'
- in other words, they're crying out loud to convince us that Iraq is about 9/11, Iraq is about 9/11...
> that letter will go right
> that letter will go right to the >shredder or the digital trash bin.
>DHS | Homepage | 06.13.06 - 12:30 pm | #
Their only way to survive is that the crucial questions are simply not put to them at all, that they can evade.
We need more of it like when Rumsfeld was confronted by RayMcGovern - he was completely unprepared for having his lies exposed.
Everybody's Gotta Learn
Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
Here is another tip for the FBI:
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/unshrinking_antizoom_CGI.jpg
Get a CLUE,SHEEP! THE FBI IS
Get a CLUE,SHEEP! THE FBI IS INVOLVED IN COVER-UP AT LEAST SOME IN LEADERSHIP! Why do you think the subordinates had hard time telling leadership of attacks coming? Get a clue, people! FBI is ALSO involved!
As probably are people in
As probably are people in CIA also!
Fitzgerald is one of the
Fitzgerald is one of the more honest people but he is but one man. My hopeful guess is that Rove gave them some leads. Rove's pardon by the president was probably inevitable anyway.
If I'm to believe that
If I'm to believe that Fitzgerald is not a fraud, Fitzgerald must have gotten tons of inside leads from Rove in return for not indicting that that most repugnant man.
New book "Armed Madhouse"
New book "Armed Madhouse" states 9/11 is inside job:
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2006/06/10/comme...
"that that"^--just the
"that that"^--just the thought of that pig seems to make me studder & shudder.
I have been emailing the DOJ
I have been emailing the DOJ and the FBI(and other govt.officials/ departments) with 9-11 articles that prove the the Bush/PNAC adminstration Planned and Orchestrated 9-11 for years...i suggest everybody do the same
peace,pw
ps how many 9-11 dvd's(LC2,CE,David Ray Griffin dvd's etc) have you all handed out today, last week, last month or so far this year?
this is still the key, we have to spread this information far and wide
and to as many people as we can.
AskDOJ@usdoj.gov ; atrdocs.grp@usdoj.gov ; american.atr@usdoj.gov ; Atlanta.ATR@usdoj.gov ; Chicago.ATR@usdoj.gov ; Cleveland.ATR@usdoj.gov ; Dallas.ATR@usdoj.gov ; NewYork.ATR@usdoj.gov ; Philly.ATR@usdoj.gov ; SanFran.ATR@usdoj.gov ; askbja@ojp.usdoj.gov ; great@atf.gov ; foiamail@atf.gov ; eps@atf.gov ; agentinfo@atf.gov ; persdiv@atf.gov ; ATFMail@atf.gov ; Criminal.Division@usdoj.gov ; birmingham@ic.fbi.gov ; anchorage@fbi.gov ; phoenix@ic.fbi.gov ; little.rock@ic.fbi.gov ; los.angeles@fbi.gov ; InfraGard.LosAngeles@fbi.gov ; ansir@leo.gov ; sandiego@fbi.gov ; fbinhct@leo.gov ; meriden.nh@fbi.gov ; bridgeport.nh@fbi.gov ; new.haven@fbi.gov ; washington.field@ic.fbi.gov ; jacksonville@ic.fbi.gov ; miami@ic.fbi.gov ; Tampa.Division@ic.fbi.gov ; iitf.tampa@ic.fbi.gov ; honolulu@fbi.gov ; springfield@fbi.gov ; media.baltimore@fbi.gov ; baltimore@fbi.gov ; Jackson@fbi.gov ; stlouis@fbi.gov ; applicants.sl@fbi.gov ; omaha@fbi.gov ; albuquerque@fbi.gov ; lcra.aq@fbi.gov ; fbi9@qwest.net ; fbi8@qwest.net ; sfra.aq@fbi.gov ; rra.aq@fbi.gov ; albany@fbi.gov ; buffalo@fbi.gov ; newyork@fbi.gov ; charlotte@fbi.gov ; infragard-ce@fbi.gov ; cincinnati@fbi.gov ; cleveland.cv@ic.fbi.gov ; portland@ic.fbi.gov ; philadelphia@fbi.gov ; phcybercrime@fbi.gov ; knoxville@ic.fbi.gov ; memphis@fbi.gov ; cac.memphis@fbi.gov ; sstf.memphis@fbi.gov ; media.memphis@fbi.gov ; Houston@fbi.gov ; SaltLakeCity@ic.fbi.gov ; c7.slc@ic.fbi.gov ; C2.slc@ic.fbi.gov ; Bill.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Boise.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Bozeman.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Browning.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; CDA.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Glasgow.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; GreatFalls.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Havre.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Helena.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; IdahoFalls.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Kalispell.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Lewiston.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Missoula.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Monticello.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Ogden.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Pocatello.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Provo.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; StGeorge.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; TwinFalls.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; Vernal.SLC@ic.fbi.gov ; norfolk@fbi.gov ; jstacoff@leo.gov ; Richmond@ic.fbi.gov ; Winchester.RH@ic.fbi.gov ; Roanoke.RH@ic.fb.gov ; Lynchburg.RH@ic.fbi.gov ; Fredericksburg.RH@ic.fbi.gov ; Charlottesville.RH@ic.fbi.gov ; Bristol.RH@ic.fbi.gov ; Applicants.Richmond@ic.fbi.gov ; fbise@leo.gov
The podcaset link given in
The podcaset link given in the message to the FBI has been dead at least half a day...
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=113
It's great to have Palast
It's great to have Palast and Parry move to "our" side, raising questions and suggest an inside job.
Just to remember:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/032306.html
There was also a news about Greg suggest on radio that 911 was an inside job. I couldn't find the news at the moment.
WHo is Parry? Fitz is in bed
WHo is Parry? Fitz is in bed with them, hence NO indictment for Rove! All BULLSHIT!
Robert Parry broke many of
Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'
It's a well written letter,
It's a well written letter, to be sure. However: who is Veronica Chapman? She's not listd among the Scholars at st911.org. Googling seems to reveal she's a writer.
It would have been nice if she had some physicists and/or engineers sign the letter as well. Nonetheless, Godspeed Veronica Chapman.
That Podcasts link appears
That Podcasts link appears to be working, was it down earlier?
Good letter Veronica. Everyone should forward that letter to their members of congress and the media.
Sbg dude, I'm having some
Sbg dude, I'm having some problems converting that file to mp4. See if you can get Dz to have a go as well with the settings you guys use for the output, and if the sounds still not in sync etc, then I'll press out a new copy and maybe up it on megaupload or something. Because it might be the ftp transfer that affected it, or it might just be the program your using at you end man I donÂ’t know.
Here is another great piece
Here is another great piece of work from Jim Hoffman. This will be useful for responding when idiots point to one or two debunking sites regarding LC2E to discredit all 9/11 research.
The 9-11Research Companion to
LOOSE CHANGE 2ND EDITION
A detailed point-by-point critique of the film using an illustrated transcript
http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/introduction.html
It's great to have Palast
It's great to have Palast and Parry move to "our" side, raising questions and suggest an inside job.
Just to remember:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/20...006/ 032306.html
There was also a news about Greg suggest on radio that 911 was an inside job. I couldn't find the news at the moment.
SittingBull | 06.13.06 - 2:28 pm | #
that is great to see. just about a month or 2 ago i was going back and forth with his secretary over his views on 9/11, and she was defending the fact that Palast doesnt go near 9/11 really.lets hope he uses his BBC show to highlight 9/11 if he indeed is "coming to our side".
According to the book review
According to the book review ("Armed Madhouse"), Palast is really going after the whole Osama-LIE. And that alone is PERFECT: Osama is the central pillar of the cover-up. If Osama drops out, the house of cards falls.
Fitz is in bed with them,
Fitz is in bed with them, hence NO indictment for Rove! All BULLSHIT!
Anonymous | 06.13.06 - 2:44 pm | #
yeah, what the fuck is that? no justice.......
yes, but will Palast mention
yes, but will Palast mention the fake ass "confession tape"? i dont think he has the balls.(and im a huge Palast fan)
'New American Century'
'New American Century' Project Ends With a Whimper
http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=9132
dsm, PNAC does NOT end with
dsm, PNAC does NOT end with Whimper! The mass murdering bastards have murdered thousands of innocent Iraqi's and our own G.I's and THEY ALL need to hang and far WORSE!
Anonymous wrote "THEY ALL
Anonymous wrote "THEY ALL need to hang and far WORSE!"
Just put them all to work rebuilding Iraq on a chain gang.
Police State USA
Police State USA
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=55532&...
See post #341
-- --
America's Robot Army
http://www.newstatesman.com/200606120018
Everyone needs to read
Everyone needs to read this.
Greg Palast Uncovers the 'Armed Madhouse' of the Bush Reign of Greed, Fear and Stolen Elections
http://www.informationclearin
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13606.htm
Gathering To Demand The Truth About 9/11
By Mike Ferner
06/13/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- Over 500 people in the packed hall applauded eagerly when Dr. Bob Bowman stated he was an advocate of doctor-controlled, single-payer health care for all.
They cheered louder still when the congressional candidate from Florida's 15th District pledged that his first piece of legislation submitted in the U.S. House of Representatives would be articles of impeachment.
But they simultaneously jumped to their feet and roared approval when he leaned over the podium and said he was running with a group of Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Libertarians, Independents and non politicians ".who are all united by one thing. We want to bring our troops home from George Bush's quagmire in Iraq and expose the lies that allowed him to send them there, including 9/11."
More at the link....
Jon...Great post of the Greg
Jon...Great post of the Greg Palast interview. Gave me chills.
I heard Carol Brouillet this
I heard Carol Brouillet this morn..
and saw Jon Stewart DAILY SHOW international edition, interviewing CAROLINE KENNEDY (devastating is the only word I can find!).
hmmm.. got me thinkin..
consider this:
What would Jon Stewart think of his
fate/future/career/personal wellbeing
if he would crack 911 jokes, i.e.
expose the truth in a FUNNY=less fear
manner.
it logically follows that it would have a BIG IMPACT to USA society.
it would logically follow that the
trust in the stockmarkets and USA
finance will plummet..
it further logically follows that people-in-power (people with big gov pensions, all beneficiaries of USA big capitalism, including Jon Stewart,) would have to decide:
Do we ... or don't we want the 911 truth to come out.
It is safe to assume that (at least instinctively) many "system-dependent-people" already are aware of it... and this MAY explain the reluctance of the embedded media to go near it.
Admit it... YOU TOO have thought:
dang, this may bring down the whole show.
ok. thats the point I wanted to make.
(and wanted yous to (dis)agree with)
Good form demands that..
After criticising ONE MUST ALWAYS offer a solution, however nutty.
So .. ONE POSSIBLE solution is to change tack and claim that:
911 was a sacrifice that was made and we shall focus on the benefits of the sacrifice, namely the wisdom and enlightenment that it has brought us, namely the knowledge that a FAIR and JUST WORLD is our only hope for diginified survival as humans.
Therefore as atonement and edification we read all available chomsky books and after impeaching Bush and the Neocons, selected Al GORE (pres) and GORE VIDAL (vice pres) as a care-taker government to implement BEFORE THIS DECADE IS OUT as just world-order, ratified by world-wide-plebecite.
Anyone that can recite verbatim the 1970 chomsky speech will be given 15 minutes of face-time with Al&Vidal GORE.
I am serious. But my time has not come yet ;-)
PS: Caroline Kennedy looked juicy-ish. She would make a lovely president after the death-and-fear-merchants are gone.
"Jon...Great post of the
"Jon...Great post of the Greg Palast interview. Gave me chills."
Made me angry. It's nothing we didn't already know, but to see it laid out like that.
We sometimes forget everything that they've done because we are lambasted with news, day in, and day out. Nothing sticks. It's more more more, and never the news, with a follow-up, etc...
Colbert had Robert Kennedy
Colbert had Robert Kennedy Jr on about the election fraud article.
that letter will go right to
that letter will go right to the shredder or the digital trash bin.
DHS | Homepage | 06.13.06 - 12:30 pm | #
Which is exactly why it needs to be sent, and seen to be sent.
Color me stupid, but I'm not
Color me stupid, but I'm not following this. Someone wrote a letter to the FBI, asking them to investigate 9/11?
Just checked my calendar, and it's not Sept. 13th, 2001. This will accomplish what? The entire intel community is in on this scam. This is news to some people? Sibel Edmonds has been judicially gagged for attempting this. What am I missing?
While we're at it, why not ask Bush to confess, then sit back and wait for him to say, "Dang... ya got me."
What do you suggest, Rumple?
What do you suggest, Rumple?
I support the letter sent to
I support the letter sent to the FBI.
I work for the govt and employees there are like employees anywhere.
An email circulated about the pentagon strike...a power point slideshow. It spread like nuts. Everyone at the end of the day saw that thing and it got a ton of people into questioning the truth about 911. People blab. All people.
It's all about exposing people.
'MercuryMedia Takes On 9/11
'MercuryMedia Takes On 9/11 Doc'
http://www.worldscreen.com/newscurrent.php?filename=merc61306.htm
LONDON, June 13: MercuryMedia is continuing its acquisitions drive, picking up the rights to the 48-minute special 9/11: Press For Truth from New York-based DTT Documentaries.
The film tells the story of four 9/11 widows known as “The Jersey Girls” who fought for the official investigation into the attacks. The women have been in the news again recently following controversial remarks about them by right-wing commentator Anne Coulter.
“This is a great 9/11 documentary,” said Jason McGeown, the marketing and acquisitions Manager at Mercury. “There are lots of questions to be answered by the American government and this film raises them in a responsible and level-headed manner. Not only is this a valuable addition to the catalogue, it also increases the 9/11 programming that we can offer broadcasters. With Loose Change 2 now the most downloaded film in history, accumulating 6 million online views, and CTVC’s Victim 0001, which focuses on Father Mychal Judge, the NY Fire Department Chaplain who died in the attacks, we can give the networks some real choice for the fifth anniversary of the 2001 tragedy.”
I am a little confused about
I am a little confused about the reactions on this thread to the review of 'Armed Madhouse' and this talk of Greg Palast coming over to "our side". Can someone point me to where Palast has said -- or even hinted -- that 9/11 was an inside job? The author of the review makes the claim and seems to lament that Palast doesn't say it himself.
Or am I missing something? (entirely possible)
Thanks.
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I am a little confused about the reactions on this thread to the review of 'Armed Madhouse' and this talk of Greg Palast coming over to "our side". Can someone point me to where Palast has said -- or even hinted -- that 9/11 was an inside job? The author of the review makes the claim and seems to lament that Palast doesn't say it himself.
Or am I missing something? (entirely possible)
Thanks.
Benonymous Rex | 06.13.06 - 7:07 pm | #
i agree, i have yet to see proof of Palasts "conversion". and like i said before,im a big fan of Palast, i think he does great work usually, but last i checked, his secretary said he thought of 9/11 in the same way Chomsky does. ugh.
does ANYONE know when 9/11:
does ANYONE know when 9/11: Press For Truth comes out? thank you so much if you do.
Chris... I have it right
Chris... I have it right here. It's coming out by this anniversary.
thanks, i cant wait. but
thanks, i cant wait. but wait, you saw the whole thing then? do the Jersey Girls get tougher by any chance?(not to bash the Jersey Girls, i respect them as well, i just hope they get some sharper teeth in this film.)
More about Karl Rove by
More about Karl Rove by Malloy
The smirking White House rat got away with it. The man who makes the final decision on every action or non-action taken by the insiders of the Bush Crime Family will not be officially, publicly, indicted in the Valerie Plame affair. Karl Rove is home free. RoveÂ’s mentor, the incredibly corrupt Lee Atwater, must be chortling in Hell. Atwater died a messy death several years ago from brain cancer. On his death bed he whined and pleaded for forgiveness for his successful efforts on behalf of Bush Senior in shredding our political system; reducing it to lies, distortions, deceptions and chaos.
The death-bed plea was pathetic and revealed once again the weird religious beliefs – and the deep-seated terror of facing death - of the so-called “Christian” Right: Do anything; any foul crime, any vicious act, any hate-filled maneuver against any individual or group; live like a bandit, a liar, a killer; all that matters is a whiney, cowardly plea for forgiveness as you suck in your last foul breath and the “Lord” will forgive you and take you to Heaven. Bat squeeze. A just God would have made certain Atwater was boiling and burning in that ubiquitous “lake of fire” the Baptists are always wailing about. Perhaps ol’ Scratch lifted him out of the pain today just long enough to allow Lee one more smirk. Common sense screams there is no possible way the only member of the Bush Crime Family involved in the Plame outing was the tremulous, snake-eyed Irving Libby. Rove, Cheney, Card; the entire crew of Bush capos were behind this sloppy effort at punishing yet another diplomat or military figure who refused to sign on to the lies necessary in setting up the invasion of Iraq and the subsequent and ongoing mass killing in that sad country.
Noteworthy also in this filthy affair is the cowardice of the special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. After giving the appearance and providing the rhetoric of a Republican who was going to – really, truly, completely – resist the corruption of the Bush Crime Family and bring the perps to justice, Fitzgerald has folded, collapsed, and signed on with the killers. Why are we surprised? What did we expect? These are Republicans all. Neo-Conservative totalitarians who will tolerate no resistance; who will punish mercilessly those who refuse the party line. So, onward to the mid-term elections and either the beginning of the restoration of justice, or the end of the steadily weakening, 200-year-long attempt at representative self-government. Lee Atwater may be raised out of the lake o’ fire once again and given one more opportunity to smirk immediately after November 7th.
wow, did Lee Atwater really
wow, did Lee Atwater really ask for forgiveness for being a Bush capo on his death bed? i would love to see a link on that one.
did Lee Atwater really ask
did Lee Atwater really ask for forgiveness
My brother was a high school friend and classmate of Lee Atwater's before Lee Atwater embraced the dark side. He visited Lee Atwater on his deathbed a week or two before he died. According to my brother, there was a Bible on the side-table and what was left of Lee Atwater was indeed very outwardly repentant for what he did to politics, and he went on at length with my brother about his regrets. Under the circumstances, my brother decided he is unable to vouch for Atwater's sincerity in this expression.
did he get specific though?
did he get specific though? the things he could have told.........
No specifics have been
No specifics have been conveyed to me. My impression is that anything else was last-chance old-friend chat.
"thanks, i cant wait. but
"thanks, i cant wait. but wait, you saw the whole thing then? do the Jersey Girls get tougher by any chance?(not to bash the Jersey Girls, i respect them as well, i just hope they get some sharper teeth in this film.)"
They talk about their story. They get as tough as I would expect them to get for being in a movie. The end is really sad.
I give the letter an A+
I give the letter an A+
Don't forget... it's not
Don't forget... it's not only the Jersey Girls in the movie... it's also Bob McIlvaine, Greg Palast, Ray McGovern, and a few others...
"Jon...Great post of the
"Jon...Great post of the Greg Palast interview. Gave me chills."
Made me angry. It's nothing we didn't already know, but to see it laid out like that.
We sometimes forget everything that they've done because we are lambasted with news, day in, and day out. Nothing sticks. It's more more more, and never the news, with a follow-up, etc...
Jon Gold | Homepage | 06.13.06 - 5:21 pm | #
You do a great job bringing it to our attention.
Thanks and peace.
Yeah, I don't think Palast
Yeah, I don't think Palast (who is great on many other things) has switched to 9/11 = inside job.
BTW, I used to write to Palast all the time and write him stuff showing inside job, but I gave up because he just wouldn't consider it.
"BTW, I used to write to
"BTW, I used to write to Palast all the time and write him stuff showing inside job, but I gave up because he just wouldn't consider it."
What did he say? Did he just refuse to look at it?
Yeah, pretty much. Similar
Yeah, pretty much. Similar to Amy Goodman.
"Yeah, pretty much. Similar
"Yeah, pretty much. Similar to Amy Goodman."
He's done some great work, but I have no respect for that decision and much less respect for him as a result of it. All of the other issues he works on won't stop the neocons and make very little practical difference to a country/world descending into fascism.
Actually Palast is solidly
Actually Palast is solidly behind LIHOP...and THAT is a lot better than most in the liberal news media.
everbody e-mail Palast about
everbody e-mail Palast about 9/11. his secratary usually answers if your polite.
"thanks, i cant wait. but
"thanks, i cant wait. but wait, you saw the whole thing then? do the Jersey Girls get tougher by any chance?(not to bash the Jersey Girls, i respect them as well, i just hope they get some sharper teeth in this film.)"
They talk about their story. They get as tough as I would expect them to get for being in a movie. The end is really sad.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 06.13.06 - 10:13 pm | #
so no mention of WTC7,explosives,foreknowledge,Bush-Bin Laden family ties or anything like that in this movie? what a dissapointment.
LIHOP is the
LIHOP is the administration's fall-back theory. If we're going to settle for that, we might as well pack up and go home now, because that's what's coming down the pipeline anyway.
The Perps of 9/11 had no illusions that this would go unnoticed, which is why they've been infiltrating the 9/11 Truth Movement since 9/12. In fact, they've been pointing out some of the anomalies... some of which are accurate, some of which are not.
I don't expect us to all be on the same page here, but let's all consider all possiblities, including those that regard agents provacateur and cointelpro people amongst us.
I don't expect us to all be
I don't expect us to all be on the same page here, but let's all consider all possiblities, including those that regard agents provacateur and cointelpro people amongst us.
Rumpl4skn | 06.14.06 - 4:15 pm | #
i dont think anyone would deny that.many of us may be paranoid by nature(and rightfully so,haha) but its like Zwicker said, if they are gonna infiltrate anti-war and anti-globalization groups, you can be damn sure they have deeply infiltrated us.
Speaking of Zwicker, thought
Speaking of Zwicker, thought I'd repost this mp3 - his "alleged progressives':
http://damall.com/mp3/Zwicker-911Left.mp3
I don't expect us to all be
I don't expect us to all be on the same page here, but let's all consider all possiblities, including those that regard agents provacateur and cointelpro people amongst us.
Rumpl4skn | 06.14.06 - 4:15 pm | #
i dont think anyone would deny that.many of us may be paranoid by nature(and rightfully so,haha) but its like Zwicker said, if they are gonna infiltrate anti-war and anti-globalization groups, you can be damn sure they have deeply infiltrated us.
Chris | Homepage | 06.14.06 - 4:22 pm | #
It's a scary thought to think you've been drinking in the enemy's saloon.