San Francisco Event on June 20th

Press Release:

Film Preview - Report Back on the 9/11 Truth Movement

The film “Who Killed John O’Neil?,”and Jimmy Walter, millionaire philanthropist, who has been lobbying for a genuine 9/11 investigation in Europe, South America and Asia, film producer- Ty Rauber, organizers, speakers, and participants from the Chicago 9/11 Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming the Future Conference (http://www.911revealingthetruth.org) will all be featured at an educational event on Tuesday, June 20th, 7 pm- 10 pm, 2nd Floor, Room 219, San Francisco War Memorial Building, 401 Van Ness at McAllister, sponsored by American Legion Post 310, Veteran’s for Peace Chapter 69, and the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance.

Activists and press are invited to attend this free event which will highlight Ty Rauber’s film, “Who Killed John O’Neil?,”which looks deeply into the crime of September 11th and the soul splintering effects it has upon one man trying to understand what happened. The world premiere of the film took place over the weekend of June 2-4th at the Chicago Conference which drew over 600 people from all over the United States, Europe and Canada, and garnered attention from the New York Times, Italian television, and a greater number of alternative and mainstream news sources. A recent Zogby poll has shown that the country is divided on believing the official narrative of 9/11 and that there has been a cover-up of 9/11.

Jimmy Walter, a philanthropist has spent millions of dollars on advertising to promote the campaign to Reopen the 911 Investigation. who funded the Omission Commission in Manhattan- Confronting the Evidence - A Call to Reopen the 9/11 Investigation, in 2004, and organized a European 9/11 Truth Tour in 2005 will report on his recent efforts. He has gone to Venezuela, Malaysia, and Japan, to lobby for an International Commission to Investigate 9/11, and is speaking in Japan today on this issue. (http://www.reopen911.org).

The Chicago Conference sponsored by 911truth.org and Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance (Mujca.com) drew together an incredibly diverse range of people, united by a common desire for truth and transparency. Organizer Janice Matthews said,

“What we learned most clearly in Chicago is that we are many, we are committed, and we are growing in number."

Participants from the Chicago Conference who will also say a few words include- Film Producer Ty Rauber; Ken Jenkins, videographer, who has produced many DVDs, especially highlighting the work of David Ray Griffin, and who shared the stage in Chicago with George W. Bush's former Chief Economist at the US Department of Labor, asking the question, “What was supposed to happen on 9/11/2001 and didn’t that has permitted researchers to understand 9/11 as a “failed special operation?” Bonnie Faulkner, producer of KPFA’s Guns and Butter, interviewed and taped the keynote speakers and whistleblowers that cast new light upon September 11th. Carol Brouillet, Green Party Congressional candidate, helped organize the kick-off rally and march in downtown Chicago, and focused on strategy, and the new wave of candidates challenging Congress for their failure to protect the Constitution, and to rein in a criminal regime. Together, speakers will address the future of the 9-11 Truth Movement, which they hope will help redirect resources and policy away from war, and towards healing and peace.

DZ, Professor Jones, And Me

Guys, off topic, I noticed

Guys, off topic, I noticed somewhere around here a reference to a complaint about bloggers from Karl Rove, but I forgot to save that link. Could any1 help? Thank you.

Jon, you look kinda like a

Jon, you look kinda like a WWF wrestler. Maybe you should be pose with Vince McMahon next? :-)

There is a really important

There is a really important 9-11 site that I did not see in your link list. It is called Scholars for 9/11 Truth

Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T) is a non-partisan association of faculty, students, and scholars, in fields as diverse as history, science, military affairs, psychology, and philosophy, dedicated to exposing falsehoods and to revealing truths behind 9/11.

The members of S9/11T are encouraged to take an active role by devoting themselves to reporting the results of research on 9/11 to the nation and the world by means of lectures, articles, and other venues.

S9/11T members are convinced their research proves the current administration has been dishonest about what happened in New York and Washington, D.C.

These experts contend that books and articles by members and other associates have established that the World Trade Center was almost certainly brought down by controlled demolitions and that the available relevant evidence casts grave doubt on the government's official story about the attack on the Pentagon.

They believe that the government not only permitted 9/11 to occur but may even have orchestrated these events to facilitate its political agenda.

S9/11T encourages its members to vigorously express their concerns on this score through lectures, conferences, symposia, articles, and books as well as other access routes that publicize their findings.

One thing that bugged me

One thing that bugged me about the O'neill movie . The bad rip-off of Brad Pitt's performance in '12 monkeys' , which was itself , over the top. .

Rigorous Intuition now has a

Rigorous Intuition now has a new address:

http://rigint.blogspot.com/

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I have this link for the Rove attack:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20060616/pl_usnw/karl_rove_gives_exclusive_...

off topic/ a good

Not only does Rigorous

Not only does Rigorous Intuition have a new address, today it has an excellent comment on Rummy's announcement of 2 trillion in missing loose change on 9/10.

http://rigint.blogspot.com/

At least among those with a mind for such things, it's fairly well-remembered that on September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld made the shocking announcement that the Pentagon "couldn't track" $2.3 trillion of its transactions. "Iroquois" observes, "What's interesting to me is that he made his press release on a Monday. In DC, I always see bad news given on a Friday, usually late in the afternoon on Friday. The exception, of course, would be when someone happens to know that there is a far bigger story coming out."

Guys, off topic, I noticed

Guys, off topic, I noticed somewhere around here a reference to a complaint about bloggers from Karl Rove, but I forgot to save that link. Could any1 help? Thank you.
Blob | 06.17.06 - 12:51 pm | #

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/16/karl-rove-attacks-the-blogosphere/

is Google having problems

is Google having problems with its video right now? can somebody check for me?

"Jon, you look kinda like a

"Jon, you look kinda like a WWF wrestler"

Indeed, wouldn't "Jon the Truther" (gentlemanly) crushing his adversaries be good advertising for the movement? :-)

I've continued to "test" Mia Dolan on my DailyKos blog:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/2/81113/16175

I'm not sure of what category to put her in. Is she just in denial, or is she some kind of an agent? Anyway, if anyone cares to join... :-)

Over at the Huffington Post

Over at the Huffington Post Tony Hendra has a piece entitled "No Terror Funding? Consider the October Surprise 2008."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-hendra/no-terror-funding-consi_b_2321...

It is amazing, these people see all the dots but can't put them together.

A few good comments got through, along with a few trolls. No new comments have been allowed through for awhile now.

Everyone go over there and let them know how you feel. They might not post it but they will know they got it.

"Outrageous? Implausible?

"Outrageous? Implausible? Paranoid? That's what we would have said - before they happened - about any of the outrages perpetrated so far by the current junta. Learn from experience. That New York needs far fewer bucks per person than folks in Montana to protect them from terror attacks is beyond outrageous. So it's reasonable to assume the most outrageous explanation for this cynical measure. They might even be planning it this October."
Tony Hendra
"No Terror Funding? Consider the October Surprise 2008"

Believe it or not, the person who wrote this most likely buys the official version.

I've continued to "test" Mia

I've continued to "test" Mia Dolan on my DailyKos blog:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...6/2/81113/ 16175

I'm not sure of what category to put her in. Is she just in denial, or is she some kind of an agent? Anyway, if anyone cares to join...
Vesa | 06.17.06 - 4:16 pm | #
shes an agent in my opinion, and i dont throw that allegation around all the time."Mia" is just too consistent in her message te be in denial.

Scott Laughrey is an agent

Scott Laughrey is an agent as well if you come across him.

OFFTOPIC | Anybody seen this

OFFTOPIC | Anybody seen this or know anything about thise guys? It looks pretty solid to me... well put together

http://nw0.info/files/911%20Total%20Wakeup%20CD-R%20(Essential)/

dz does look kind of puny

dz does look kind of puny next to me, doesn't he?

He's just a wittle guy.

He's just a wittle guy.

Who wants to organize a 9/11

Who wants to organize a 9/11 Truth Woodstock?

I don't, just asking if

I don't, just asking if anyone wants to organize one.

Do you think Jefferson

Do you think Jefferson Airplane would come?

White Rabbit
Volunteers

Ministry and Immortal

Ministry and Immortal Technique would come.

"im on a mission, to never forget, 3000 people, that ive never met......."

Vesa, you have the patience

Vesa, you have the patience of a saint in dealing with Mia Dolan. I find her posts almost impossible to read, let alone respond to, although I did go ahead and set up an account at Dailykos in case I can find it in myself to contribute to the deconstruction of her "discursive strategy."

I'm not allowed to post on

I'm not allowed to post on DailyKos, but Mia Dolan's lies are? That makes PERFECT sense.

It's not just that she lies,

It's not just that she lies, it's the WAY she lies. "She" has perfected obnoxious bitch discourse in a way that gets under my skin like no one else's. The "holocaust denier" trope is bad enough, but then to connect it specifically to Steven Jones just makes my blood pressure spike. She really is effective at annoying the shit out of me, and my inner rhetorical theorist wants to know why.

A guy who was in Chicago had

A guy who was in Chicago had told me many posts ago that he was interviewed by Italian tv. I think the program he was talking about was broadcasted today... I cant remember the nick lol, if u're reading tell me that I will give u a link for the download!

What's the link Immanuel?

What's the link Immanuel?

I just posted this on

I just posted this on crooksandliars.

I'm going to tell you guys a story... One sunny September morning, in a far away land called Troll-La-La, three thousand said good bye to everything they knew. They said good bye to their loved ones, their jobs, their homes, their cars, and their lives.

They said goodbye because the big bad trolls who were in charge of the land decided that they needed to send those three thousand to the land of death.

The big bad trolls were deceptive though. They told the people of Troll-La-La that it was the Ogres from Ogre-Lee.

The big bad trolls thought that it was essential for them to do so in order to maintain their control over the land, and to even expand their empire.

Since that time, Truth Fairies have started to appear in Troll-La-La, and other parts of the world.

Their job... to let the people know who really sent those 3000 to the land of death. To try and stop the big bad trolls from killing everyone in Ogre-Lee, and the rest of the world as well.

Only time will tell the winner.

Kinda gay, I know.

Kinda gay, I know.

uh oh Jon, you vaguely

uh oh Jon, you vaguely mention 9/11. you can bet on seeing it deleted if they figure it out. C&L has "editors" working overtime.

Let's see if they figure it

Let's see if they figure it out.

Gone.

Gone.

hahaha, god i hate C&L.

hahaha, god i hate C&L.

this is kind of funny, some

this is kind of funny, some guy named John Conner badgers fake liberal Alan Colmes about 9/11.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uierjkfRdBE&search=inside%20job

9/11 Was it an Inside Job?

9/11 Was it an Inside Job? Immortal Technique

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnewb8q0FWE&search=inside%20job

Hi Jon, this is the first

Hi Jon, this is the first part of the program:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK7pU_dHhgk
(I'll provide the second link within a few hours, it finished just an hour ago)
Rai3 is the third and last public channel, anyway.

Immortal Technique- Bin

The Fourth

The Fourth Branch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=immortal+technique&mode=related&v=4T...

if you watch any of them, watch this one.

Thanks Immanuel.

Thanks Immanuel.

last one. i

last one. i promise!

Immortal Technique(and Alex Jones)- The Cause of Death

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWh077_Ed3w&search=immortal%20technique

Immanuel... was that you in

Immanuel... was that you in Chicago? The Italian media guy?

2nd part

2nd part here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXt4grTxrg8

Basically it was a decent program. Only at the end, the journalist finished saying sumthin like "people may believe in conspiracies because so they may feel safer, not dealing with an america that isnt so invulnerable".
U know the tune... anyway, I think (and many others may think too) that actually people decide to believe in the official conspiracy theory to not have to deal with worst things...

No, I wasnt there, I am just

No, I wasnt there, I am just too distant.. but there were italian media reporters, included one active in 911 truth, who is an eu parliamentarian (pic here, maybe u may recognize him:http://www.europarl.europa.eu/mepphoto/28973.jpg)
I'm going to sleep now 'cuz here 1:30am, cya tomorrow (why dont we meet sometime in an IRC channel so we can exchange ideas and local experiences in a faster way?)

No, I don't recognize him.

No, I don't recognize him. I remember this other Italian man who was young, thin and tall.

Thanks for the videos

Thanks for the videos Immanuel. I don't know anything about IRC, but you're welcome to join my site. I'm always there.

-Repost- Pentagon is a huge

-Repost-

Pentagon is a huge smoking gun!

- Hani Hanjour could not have flown back from the Kentucky/Ohio to D.C.

- Hanjour could have not made that incredible maneuver in a B-757 to hit the renovated section of the Pentagon.

- A B-757 would NOT make a hole the size of a missile in the Pentagon.

- 80 videos of whatever hit the Pentagon are being withheld for no damn good reason except to cover-up. The only video released looks like a missile or a drone.

- There is no way they could ID a planeload of people that smashed into the Pentagon @ 530 mph. The fictitious DNA results were made to bolster the official story.

Thanks for the videos and

Thanks for the videos and everything.

Regards,

The Road To Guantanemo: Full

The Road To Guantanemo:

Full Movie

Comes out June 23rd in US

Watchable online at:

http://videoclub.tiscali.co.uk/film/109bb77f147.html

There is a great opportunity

There is a great opportunity to spread truth over at the Huffington Post right now. Get over there and refute those trolls.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-hendra/no-terror-funding-consi_b_2321...

DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH POSTS LIKE THE ONE FOUND BELOW:

You people have got to be kidding. Really.

I've spent the past five years as a 9/11 refugee listening to this endless, specious blather about conspiracy theories implicating the US in the senseless murder of American citizens that day. Enough!!

The very idea that _any_ American - no matter how personally, politically or ethically loathsome - had a hand in the destruction of the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, and the incomprehensibly horrific deaths of more than 3,000 American citizens is, on its face, ludicrous beyond belief. And the endless propagation of this idea, no matter how "plausible" it might seem to the crackpot fringe, does nothing to further the cause of exacting justice upon those who brought Hell on Earth to my neighborhood - nor does it get one damn thing done toward REBUILDING the Towers and the lives left behind.

Moreover, these assertions are a continuing insult to those of us who lost family, friends, homes (don't forget, some 30,000+ people lived within a ten-block radius of the WTC), and is on par with the immorality of those on the left who to this day assert, "America _deserved_ the terrorist attacks!"

I lost my home that day - I lived four blocks away - but by sheer chance and the grace of God, happened to be out of the city on 9/11. Ergo, according to your "logic", I must have been part of the Bush-Cheney-Everyone Else Cabal That Collaborated With Everyone Else To Ensure The Re-Election Of Bush-Cheney-And-Everyone-Else.

Please.

These sentiments are disgusting, repulsive, and un-American. Arianna Huffington might wish to reconsider the merits of hiring Mr. Hendra and his ilk as regular contributors to her Web site if she wants to maintain even a shred of credibility. Otherwise, "HuffPo" will go the way of Father Coughlin and "Red Channels" - and deservedly so.

I posted something. It's

I posted something. It's not coming up.

I've spent the past five

I've spent the past five years as a 9/11 refugee listening to this endless, specious blather about conspiracy theories implicating the US in the senseless murder of American citizens that day. Enough!!

Senseless murder, but it paved the way for us to invade Afghanistan, Iraq, & soon Iran! It also made rich neocons much richer.

"The very idea that _any_ American - no matter how personally, politically or ethically loathsome - had a hand in the destruction of the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, and the incomprehensibly horrific deaths of more than 3,000 American citizens is, on its face, ludicrous beyond belief..."

As ludicrous as 2,500 dead soldiers, 15,000 maimed & 250,000 murdered Iraqis???

"I lost my home that day - I lived four blocks away..."

Homes four blocks away were not destroyed.

Who wrote this article, Larry "pull-it" Silverstein?

The thousands & thousands of

The thousands & thousands of murdered Iraqis & coalition soldiers are dead based on a WMD boldfaced lie, just as 9/11 itself is a boldfaced lie!

Jon, over the past year,

Jon, over the past year, less than 10% of my posts that mentioned anything about 9/11 made it onto HuffPo. There is severe censorship on that blog.

Sometimes my post would show up 1 or 2 days later, long after the thread was closed & removed from the main page.

Jon, when was the last time

Jon, when was the last time you did sit-ups?

People in glass houses

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I used to be an athlete, which is no excuse.

"Jon, when was the last time

"Jon, when was the last time you did sit-ups?"

Are you implying that I'm a fat pos? I know.

dz doesn't look too bad, but

dz doesn't look too bad, but a bit of a pinch above the waist there

For our Canadian

For our Canadian friends:

"...Does Stephen Harper know more than America’s much vaunted Federal Bureau of Investigation knows about 9/11? The FBI was recently asked why Osama bin Laden’s biggest crime does not appear on his rap sheet posting on the infamous “Most Wanted List.’ You’d think, after the Commander in Chief’s “Dead or Alive” television bravura, and all that’s followed, the G-Men would have the wherewithal to add a line to Osama’s other alleged misdeeds. But, no.

The biggest single criminal act in history, (the atomic destruction of Nagasaki, or Hiroshima aside; the pollution of Iraq, Yugoslavia, and America, with depleted uranium discounted), and not a peep from the Feds!.... http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=702...

Something I just posted on

Something I just posted on the Randi Rhodes forum... thought I'd share.

"They" like to tell us that 9/11 was unprecedented.

They have procedures for when a transponder turns off.

They have procedures for when a plane doesn't respond.

They have procedures for when a plane enters restricted airspace.

They even have procedures for when a hijacking takes place.

NONE of them were followed on 9/11.

THAT is what is "unprecedented".

Sorry, forgot to add this

Sorry, forgot to add this part^

"...Despite the statements of the Great Decider, and the countless accusations made in the media, the FBIÂ’s legal department chose not to include the 9/11 charges because, they say, they donÂ’t believe they have the evidence to justify such an allegation..."

I'll have you know bb... I

I'll have you know bb... I used to be good looking. I used to have hair, was reasonably in shape, played the drums regularly, etc... and then... came this.

On the one hand, some people

On the one hand, some people question how anyone off the street could have executed the complex maneuvers needed to guide a large jet aircraft a few over the ground into the Pentagon.

On the other hand, people look at the Mineta testimony, and wonder whether there was a 'no shoot down order.'

What to think?

Does anyone know of a link

Does anyone know of a link to Cynthia Mckinney chewing out Rumsfeld and Myers on Sept 10, 2001? about the missing $2 trillion. She needs defending on crooks and liars right now.

Here you

Here's the original

Thank you Jon!

Thank you Jon!

Remember the important point

Remember the important point that came out of that confrontation. When asked who was in charge of the Wargames, Myers didn't answer.

CMK: Let me ask you this,

CMK: Let me ask you this, then: who was in charge of managing those wargames?

HOLD YOUR HORSES LADY... YOU'RE OUTTA LINE... THERE WILL BE NONE OF THAT... WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION LIKE THAT.

DH: General, why don’t you give the best answer that you can here in a short a period of time and we’ll – the gentlelady wants to get a written answer anyway, and then we can move on to other folks.

RM: The important thing to realize is that North American Aerospace Defense Command was responsible. These are command post exercises; what that means is that all the battle positions that are normally not filled are indeed filled so it was an easy transition from an exercise into a real world situation. It actually enhanced the response; otherwise, it would take somewhere between 30 minutes and a couple of hours to fill those positions, those battle stations, with the right staff officers.

"The important thing to

"The important thing to realize is that North American Aerospace Defense Command was responsible."

Who?

"When asked who was in

"When asked who was in charge of the Wargames, Myers didn't answer."

Do you suppose there is anyone left in government that is seeing all of this crap and connecting the dots?

On another note I wonder if stuff like this is worth posting on other sites?

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=1769267

I don't know anybody named,

I don't know anybody named, "North American Aerospace Defense Command".

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http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/06/10251.php
Interview w/ Aaron Russo about "America: Freedom to Fascism"

An interview by http://consciousmedianetwork.com of Aaron Russo about his new film, America: Freedom to Fascism. In this film Russo sets out to find the law that requires American citizens pay a direct income tax. This interview contains info about the fiat currency owned by private, for profit bank that we call "dollars". He explains how the Federal Reserve is neither 'Federal' nor has any reserves. He also gives a spot on critique of Michael Moore's Farenheit 911 . America: Freedom to Fascism is opening in USA . Also included on the radio.indymedia php page associated with this file will be a short excerpt from the inteview and the 14 min. trailer to the film.
http://fromfreedomtofascism.com
listen for excerpts of it in the daily rotation of radioActive sanDiego http://radioactiveradio.org
look for mp3 links to 16 min. trailer to film, and 4 minute audio clip of interview at the ".php" page on http://radioactiveradio.org
36 min.

audio: http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/aluhlooyah_aaronrussointerviewcmn.mp3 MP3 at 17.1 mebibytes

http://consciousmedianetwork.com

Excerpt from Aaron Russo Interview
audio: http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/aluhlooyah_aaronrussoshortinterview.mp3 MP3 at 1.0 mebibytes

two min. 11 sec. exceprt from the Conscious Media Network http://consciousmedianetwork.com
consciousmedianetwork.com

America: Freedom to Fascism Trailer
audio: http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/aluhlooyah_aaronrussoftftrailer.mp3 MP3 at 7.0 mebibytes

15 min. 13 sec Trailer to the Film, Aaron Russo's America: Freedom to Fascism
http://consciousmedianetwork.com

I just blasted C&L.

I just blasted C&L.

Sorry to post this again but

Sorry to post this again but I cound not find the original thread where I posted it. A few weeks ago I had read, I think here, about a link to a site that has a 10 or 20 multiple-choice question 9/11 quiz which is useful in showing newbies how little they know about 9/11. One question was, how many skyscrapers over 40 stories high collapsed in NY on 9/11/01? Does anyone know the link to this quiz, and if so post it please? Thank you.

Jeff, I think this is

I just blasted C&L. Jon Gold

I just blasted C&L.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 06.18.06 - 12:07 am | #
always a good thing. ive all but given up over there.

Jeff, try this, though I

Jeff, try this, though I haven't looked at it lately so can't vouch for it;

http://www.119-questions.com