The Chronicle of Higher Education Covers Academics Who Question 9/11

Professors of Paranoia? - Academics give a scholarly stamp to 9/11 conspiracy theories - chronicle.com

Nearly five years have gone by since it happened. The trial of Zacarias Moussaoui is over. Construction of the Freedom Tower just began. Oliver Stone's movie about the attacks is due out in theaters soon. And colleges are offering degrees in homeland-security management. The post-9/11 era is barreling along.

And yet a whole subculture is still stuck at that first morning. They are playing and replaying the footage of the disaster, looking for clues that it was an "inside job." They feel sure the post-9/11 era is built on a lie.

In recent months, interest in September 11-conspiracy theories has surged. Since January, traffic to the major conspiracy Web sites has increased steadily. The number of blogs that mention "9/11" and "conspiracy" each day has climbed from a handful to over a hundred.

Why now?

Oddly enough, the answer lies with a soft-spoken physicist from Brigham Young University named Steven E. Jones, a devout Mormon and, until recently, a faithful supporter of George W. Bush.

Last November Mr. Jones posted a paper online advancing the hypothesis that the airplanes Americans saw crashing into the twin towers were not sufficient to cause their collapse, and that the towers had to have been brought down in a controlled demolition. Now he is the best hope of a movement that seeks to convince the rest of America that elements of the government are guilty of mass murder on their own soil.

His paper — written by an actual professor who works at an actual research university — has made him a celebrity in the conspiracy universe. He is now co-chairman of a group called the Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which includes about 50 professors — more in the humanities than in the sciences — from institutions like Clemson University, the University of Minnesota, and the University of Wisconsin.

But even as Mr. Jones's title and academic credentials give hope to the conspiracy theorists, his role in the movement may undermine those same credentials. What happens when science tries to function in a fringe crusade?

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It is absurd to try to

It is absurd to try to ascribe the highly unconventional "Ground Zero" (how aptly named!) aftermath evidence to something as conventional as thermate (a 4th-of-July sparkler is basically a slowed-down thermate reaction)!

Even if you don't know a pyroclastic flow when you see one, does this look to you like any kind of ordinary "cloud of dust"? http://911blimp.net/images/spire+plume+pyroCloud!.jpg Such fluid flows, with distinct boundaries between gases, had previously been observed in Earth's atmosphere in conjunction with the tremendous heat release accompanying volcanic eruptions. (It takes a large amount of energy to cause that effect.)

Beyond the volcano-like level of heat release required to have produced such a large dense hot expansive cloud, there is other evidence that heat was present in unearthly abundance. There is evidence of an over-abundance of incredibly tiny -- the tiniest possible -- particles at Ground Zero. This is evidence that molecular dissociation, resulting from exposure to temperatures hotter than the Sun, occured at "Ground Zero".

And good truthers probably do not need to be reminded about the molten metal found weeks later in the basement (thermate goes up in an instant, then cools) or the fact that the remnant fires burned on for 99 days despite constant dousing with water, both of which suggest that the destruction involved the release of energies far in excess of the capacity of conventional chemical explosives required for a "controlled demolition".

So please do not become distracted by the silly (absurd) or sinister (distractive "conventional" limited-hangout disinfo) notion that the destruction of the towers can be attributed to conventional chemical compounds, because it just ain't so -- the evidence is screaming it loud and clear to anyone who's not physics-deaf.

http://911u.org/Physics/graphics/PlasmaVsThermite.gif

We must learn to filter and think for ourselves, or else the lies and liars with the better P.R. teams will keep on whipping the truth every time...

Honest 911 truthers who do not believe that the 9/11 Truth Movement could be misled by fake leaders are as pathetic as Aunt Matilda (who still believes that President Bush could never mislead us all about something as serious as 9/11).
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BYU Physics Prof Finds

BYU Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples, Building Collapses an Inside Job(!)
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml

Mike Berger on Scarborough

Mike Berger on Scarborough Country tonight

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10852

Mike Berger From

If you can record it to the

If you can record it to the computer, please do... I will, but my versions suck.

This could have been the

This could have been the last paragraph:

"I think Jones - a kookmeister extrodinaire - has realized he's gotten into bed with morons from another, sicker dimension"

Scarborough is a

Scarborough is a disrespectful son of a bitch. i just hope he actually shows the clip of WTC7.

Conspiracy Smasher did the

Conspiracy Smasher did the collapse of WTC 7 exhibit all the features of a controlled demolition - yes or no?

-Repost- dz, all of the hit

-Repost-

dz, all of the hit pieces like this one on Prof. Jones^ seem to have a thing in common--they always list a few particularly complex aspects of a truther's claim, underplay it, and then offer some other "experts" to "rebut" it at length.

Like the JOHN GRAVOIS piece above, why does Grovios imply that the truth movement is based primarily on a few esoteric, advanced physics phenomena? Why doesn't he even let Jones explain his own findings himself and their significance?

Gravois is supposedly an investigative journalist. Journalism 101: look at the whole enchilada, not just the top part that someone like the govÂ’t wants to show you.

How much do you want to bet

How much do you want to bet they're going to have an "expert" on to refute his claims... someone like a firefighter... someone like the firefighter Tucker Carlson had on to refute what Professor Jones said.

Or someone from NIST.

Or someone from NIST.

The article is pretentious,

The article is pretentious, condescending and worst of all, inaccurate.

Notice how it totally glosses over WTC7 and focuses instead on attempting to debunk the evidence of Thermite dripping from the Tower.

Totally obvious and weak attempt at misdirection. What concerns me is this pompous piece of trash is being published by a reputable educational organization. Or so it would seem.

I couldn't agree more,

I couldn't agree more, African American.

Giovanni who worked with

Giovanni who worked with Conspiracy Central, has questions for Smith and Hufschmid.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith-19June2006_2.mp3

What struck me was that the

What struck me was that the rebuttal of Steven Jones was mostly a non-rebuttal, and that the explanation for the thermite dripping from the building was that it was thermite, but spontaneously manifesting thermite and not demolition thermite. Very weak explanations and I think most readers will see those explanations as weak.

Also the description of an uncomfortable Steven Jones in the last paragraph serves to raise his hypothesis about the rest of the crowd. I think people encountering this Steve Jones through this article might be inclined to look up what he says and judge for themselves.

"The article is pretentious,

"The article is pretentious, condescending and worst of all, inaccurate"

I agree to a point, African American, but I wouldn't totally put this in the msm disinformation bag. Though the derogatory descriptions of some of the attendees of the Chicago convention were unnecessary, if you read between the lines, you can see how the article shows how the scientists etc towing the govt line will not touch this hot potato, and one can also see that no real scientific/evidential rebuttal to Truth is given- only snide comments.

For me, a lot of the evidence is between the lines- the way people refuse to face the issue, give non-answers, or become outright hostile.

Whatever happened to open intelligent debate?

Take this one to an international tribunal!

You make a good point Eric

You make a good point Eric B. Upon a second review, the article does offer at least some legitimate food for thought. Especially for those who may still be on the fence.

Or someone from NIST. the

Or someone from NIST.

the NIST report has been proven false:

http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html
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A much accurate title would

A much accurate title would be the Chronicle of Higher Indoctrination - that pretty much sums up our tertiary academic institutions.

Let's not forget the damage

Let's not forget the damage that 9/11 truth revelations would inflict on the credibility of academia. Like the media, academia has much to lose, particularly political scientists and international security "experts."

Let's not forget the damage

Let's not forget the damage that 9/11 truth revelations would inflict on the credibility of academia.

Exactly, Anonymous. The largest institutions of higher education in this country get a big portion of their lifeblood from government grants (from the National Science Foundation, and lots of other government agencies, including.... (drumroll please) the NIST).

Colleges and universities are constantly competing for these grant funds. Hmmmmm, I wonder how Brigham Young will fare in this regard. Could be interesting to find out if their grant awards have gone south since Steven Jones went public.

Mobbing 9/11; Gravois as

Mobbing 9/11; Gravois as Screech Owl (P.1)
http://www.gnn.tv/B16149

Grr.

911blimp- Can we tone down

911blimp-

Can we tone down the rude rhetoric?

Is it necessary to insult people in the truth movement who do not agree with your assumptions?

Wrong approach, brother. You and Haupt need a lesson in civility.

Thank you, Anonymous at

Thank you, Anonymous at 06.20.06 - 5:23 pm and Radical Pragmatist.

john.gravois@chronicle.com Co

john.gravois@chronicle.com
Courtesy copy: editor@chronicle.com

Title of email: Thank You for Your Article on 9/11

Dear John Gravois,

I thank you very much for your recent article entitled "Professors of Paranoia?: Academics give a scholarly stamp to 9/11 conspiracy theories" (Chronicle of Higher Education, Section: The Faculty, Vol. 52, Issue 42 [June 23, 2006], Page A10).

By focusing on this subject you help bring to people's attention the absurdities of the U.S. government's official line on the 9/11 attacks. Your article is copiously filled with scrumptiously delicious irony that makes a mockery out of suppporters of the U.S. government's inane story. Not a great many people are up to the level of penning a satire as rich as yours. If you were in my presence at this very moment I would give you a hearty pat on the back for a job well-done.

As with a lot of good satire, sometimes it's the little details that make it particularly savory. As an example of this, I found your remark on Alex Jones being a "boyish-looking man" notably droll. This is a classic example of how those who support government fictions use the logical fallacy of ad hominem attack in order to divert people's attention away from the irrationality of their own position. That is, the implication being here that because Alex Jones is a "boyish-looking man" that he is probably also mentally immature, and hence what he has to say can be disregarded as if coming from the mouth of a prepubescent boy.

But that's not where the genius of this remark of yours principly lies. What makes it especially delightful is that Alex Jones is, in fact, a testosterone-laden mammoth of a man, as can be seen in the picture of him in the below article:

"Best TV Personality: Alex Jones," Austin Chronicle, October 5, 2001:

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2001-10-05/boar_test5.html

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2001-10-05/boar_test5-3.jpg

The Greek gods must certainly be envious. Boyish, indeed! I doubt that there is any deficit of grown men who wish they could be half as "boyish" as Alex Jones. Irony such as this is a true treasure. Mr. Gravois, I thank you for enriching all of our lives with this bit of subtle satire.

But that little bit of irony aside, now we come to your following comment:

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Soon after Mr. [Steven E.] Jones posted his paper online, the physics department at Brigham Young moved to distance itself from his work. The department released a statement saying that it was "not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." ...

The Brigham Young college of engineering issued an even stronger statement on its Web site. "The structural engineering faculty," it read, "do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones." However, his supporters complain, none of Mr. Jones's critics at Brigham Young have dealt with his points directly.
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Rich, truly rich. Especially since it's so easy for people to look up the following bit of information on Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steven_E._Jones&oldid=59581783 ):

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A few department chairmen at Jones' university have issued critical statements, though none of these has yet addressed any of the points which Jones made in his paper and at his presentation at BYU. Chairman of the BYU department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Dr. Miller, is on record stating in an e-mail, "I think without exception, the structural engineering professors in our department are not in agreement with the claims made by Jones in his paper, and they don't think there is accuracy and validity to these claims".

The BYU physics department has also issued a statement: "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones's hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones's department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." The Fulton College of Engineering and Technology department has also added, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones." [3]

In April 2006, BYU removed those statements from their website following a letter saying that Jones' paper was, indeed, peer reviewed. The letter, written by linguistics professor Richard McGinn to Alan Parkinson, Dean of the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology, also says that McGinn is entitled to file an ethics complaint with the American Society of Civil Engineers against Parkinson for continuing to run those statements. An excerpt from the letter follows:

"...no dean has the right to represent individual faculty, much less the entire faculty of BYU’s Engineering College, on the issue of whether they do (or do not) “support” a colleague’s research, whether published or in-progress. The offending statement is a breach of collegiality, and seems as well to infringe upon Professor Jones’ academic freedom.
Most poignantly, it is inconsistent with the code of ethics of the American Society of Civil Engineers, by which you, as dean of the Engineering College, are bound, given that your web site claims to represent the opinions of an entire faculty of BYU engineers. The ASCR Code states in part:

"CANON 5.

g. Engineers shall not maliciously or falsely, directly or indirectly, injure the professional reputation, prospects, practice or employment of another engineer or indiscriminately criticize another's work."

If members of the College disagree with Dr. Jones' assertions in his paper that the official FEMA and NIST reports are inadequate as they stand, then they should be specific in their reasons for supporting those reports, neither of which provides (routine) visualizations for finite element analyses..."
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As truly delightful as my previously-quoted comment of yours is, you really outdo yourself in the below:

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Others have brought up this notion as well, so Mr. Jones has carried out experiments in his lab trying to get small quantities of molten aluminum to react with rust. He has not witnessed the reaction and so rules it out. But Mr. Eagar says this is just a red herring: Accidental thermite reactions are a well-known phenomenon, he says. It just takes a lot of exposed surface area for the reaction to start.

Still, Mr. Eagar does not care to respond formally to Mr. Jones or the conspiracy movement. "I don't see any point in engaging them," he says.
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So, no doubt Prof. Thomas W. Eagar has witnessed a lot of thermite reactions brought about by pouring molten aluminum on rust. And no doubt there must have been a great amount of rust on the construction steel of the World Trade Center buildings, given the apparently widespread leaks in the buildings which have been under-reported on until your article.

But as Prof. Steven E. Jones responds in advance (see "Experiments with Molten Aluminum," Steven E. Jones with Wesley Lifferth, Jared Dodson, Jacob Stevenson and Shannon Walch, circa June 2006 http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ExptAlMelt.doc ),

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Just in case Greening was right, the students and I stood well back from the heated and very rusty angle-iron as Wesley Lifferth poured molten aluminum onto the rusted steel surface (see photos). Lifferth has had considerable experience with aluminum and had never seen “violent thermite” reactions or explosions of any kind while working with molten aluminum, so he was willing to pour the molten aluminum without special precautions.
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So, Wesley Lifferth, who has much experience with molten aluminum, didn't think it was necessary to take protective measures against the accidental thermite reactions which Prof. Eagar thinks are so well-known. Perhaps Prof. Eagar would care to demonstrate these accidental thermite reactions. You know, like a scientist is supposed to do.

Moreover, the photograph appearing in Draft 6.4 of Prof. Jones's paper "Why Indeed did the WTC Buildings Collapse?" (i.e., "hotSlag.jpg") shows a yellow-hot piece of iron or steel slag being pulled from the ruins of the World Trade Center. It's dripping at the bottom, hence we know that it must be eutectic (i.e., mixed with, e.g., sulfur [such as from thermate] to lower the melting point, as otherwise construction steel or pure iron would be white-hot at melting temperature). Indeed, even the FEMA scientists report that there was eutectic molten iron or steel at the World Trade Center complex (see Prof. Jones's previously cited paper for the references on that).

I also found your following comment on the humanities rife with irony:

""
He [Prof. Steven E. Jones] is now co-chairman of a group called the Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which includes about 50 professors — more in the humanities than in the sciences — from institutions like Clemson University, the University of Minnesota, and the University of Wisconsin.
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The implication being that only scientists in the empirical fields are qualified to comment on the 9/11 attacks, as opposed to other *scientists* (in the literal meaning of that word) in the fields of the humanities.

Yet even though the physicalist case against the U.S. government's 9/11 attacks story is absolutely certain, most of the evidence that the 9/11 attacks were staged from beginning to end by the U.S. government comes from the historical record, i.e., mainstream media reports and government primary documentation, etc. This is an area where the scientists in the humanities are part

[Continued from the above

[Continued from the above post by me:]

Yet even though the physicalist case against the U.S. government's 9/11 attacks story is absolutely certain, most of the evidence that the 9/11 attacks were staged from beginning to end by the U.S. government comes from the historical record, i.e., mainstream media reports and government primary documentation, etc. This is an area where the scientists in the humanities are particularly trained for (at least in those fields of the humanities that deal with history and the study of human action).

While although your entire commentary is a mass of satirical absurdity, the below is your crowning achievement:

""
In recent months, interest in September 11-conspiracy theories has surged. Since January, traffic to the major conspiracy Web sites has increased steadily. The number of blogs that mention "9/11" and "conspiracy" each day has climbed from a handful to over a hundred.
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This running dido of yours throughout your article is the ultimate in your sardonicism. It's so utterly vulgar and expected, and hence all the more sublime.

So far as conspiracies go, they are ubiquitous. Everyone is in agreement that the 9/11 attacks were the result of a conspiracy. But those who are genuinely knowledgeable and care about the truth reject fallacious conspiracy theories, such as the U.S. government's lying, self-serving, a-historical, a-factual, and provably false official fairy tale conspiracy theory concerning the 9/11 attacks.

More than four times the amount of non-combatants have been systematically murdered for purely ideological reasons by their own governments within the past century than were killed in that same time-span from wars. From 1900 to 1923, various Turkish regimes killed from 3,500,000 to over 4,300,000 of its own Armenians, Greeks, Nestorians, and other Christians. Communist governments have murdered over 110 million of their own subjects since 1917. And Germany murdered some 16 million of it own subjects in the past century. (The preceding figures are from Prof. Rudolph Joseph Rummel's website at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/ .)

All totaled, neither the private-sector crime which government is largely responsible for promoting and causing or even the wars committed by governments upon the subjects of other governments come anywhere close to the crimes government is directly responsible for committing against its own citizens--certainly not in amount of numbers. Without a doubt, the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.

Needless to say, all of these government mass-slaughters were conspiracies--massive conspiracies, at that.

In closing, Mr. Gravois, I thank you for your effort in trying to wake people up by making the supporters of the U.S. government's position look so absurd. You are a true patriot, and a friend of humanity. Let us all hope that you don't get picked up and tortured to death via the U.S. government's practice of "extraordinary rendition" (even conducted against innocent U.S. citizens). While although White House counsel Prof. John Yoo may smile at you suffering such a death, others in America would be saddened by it (assuming that we knew that you were picked up and tortured to death in said manner; it may be that you just go missing and are never heard from again, so far as the public knows).

Sincerely,

James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," revised and expanded edition, June 1, 2006 http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/anarchist-jesus.pdf

James, excellent work

James, excellent work

That was a truly excellent

That was a truly excellent response, Mr. Redford!!!!!

I am glad James Reford wrote

I am glad James Reford wrote that letter. It reinforces Jim Fetzer's sentiments in the article:

"Hence, it does not much bother Mr. Fetzer that outside scientists have largely refrained from tackling the group's arguments. "I don't think it's a problem," he says, "because we have so much competence and expertise among ourselves."

911myths.com, a Web site run by a software developer in England, is one of the few venues that offers a running scrutiny of the various claims and arguments coming out of the 9/11 Truth movement. Mr. Fetzer has heard of 911myths .com, but he has never visited the site.

"I have been dealing with disinformation and phony stories about the death of JFK for all these years. There's a huge amount of phoniness out there," he says. "You have to be very selective in how you approach these things."

"I can assure you the things I'm telling you about 9/11 have objective scientific status," he says. 911myths.com, he says, "is going to be built on either fabricated evidence, or disregard of the real evidence, or violations of the principles of scientific reasoning."

"They cannot be right," he says.

Now Americans will really know the state of mind of 9/11 conspiracists.

Thank you for your comment,

Thank you for your comment, S. King. The more attention we can all focus on the U.S. government's lying, self-serving, a-historical, a-factual, and provably false official fairy tale conspiracy theory concerning the 9/11 attacks--as well as the conspiracy theorists promulgating it--the more people we can wake up.

"Thank you for your comment,

"Thank you for your comment, S. King."

Your most welcome. I'm confident that all of your fellow Born Again Christians agree with you wholeheartedly.

I'm confident that all of

I'm confident that all of your fellow Born Again Christians agree with you wholeheartedly.

what was this in reference to?

"what was this in reference

"what was this in reference to?"

James knows. Ask HIM.