The Dark Side on PBS

Sorry for the late notice on this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

Jun. 20, 2006 at 9pm CST / 10pm EST
After 9/11, Vice President Richard Cheney seized the initiative. He pushed to expand executive power, transform America's intelligence agencies and bring the war on terror to Iraq. But first he had to take on George Tenet's CIA for control over intelligence.

Catch it if you can.

Italy Fines Six Oil

``The Dark Side" is, in a

``The Dark Side" is, in a sense, CIA payback for its treatment. The program is dominated by legions of former CIA officers, some of whom left over the agency's treatment by the White House, and they detail what they view as Cheney's efforts to find the intelligence to fit the war he wanted against Saddam. Virtually no one, in contrast, appears from the Cheney-Rumsfeld camp to defend the two men's actions.

I'm setting up my VCR, it'll

I'm setting up my VCR, it'll be on in 10 minutes in my area.

Belgian F-16s Intercepted 46

Crap, I don't get that

Crap, I don't get that station. Can't tape it, sorry.

I don't get it either I

I don't get it either I don't think. I've never seen it.

Wait, Its on a different

Wait, Its on a different channel that I do get later tonight, will try to tape that one...

Finally! This is a station I

Finally! This is a station I DO get!
So far, pretty interesting......

Weird. Watching it now, and

Weird.
Watching it now, and at about an hour into it, while talking about how flawed the report to go to war with Iraq was, there was about a 7 second interference with the program, a cut away to an ancient Larry King interview on some PBS show popped up with the PBS logo on the bottom right, and then suddenly it cut back to the Cheney piece.
Did anybody else notice this?

yes

yes

I haven't seen anything

I haven't seen anything posted about Sibel Edmonds lately. She is such a big part of the 9/11 story and sometimes I forget about her. Her strength should inspire us all.
http://www.justacitizen.com/

It is over now and theyu

It is over now and theyu mentioned that the program is continued online (Thurs @5pm) and that other issues are discussed and I swear they mentioned 9/11. I am going to be sure to check online Thurs. to see just how they bring up 9/11 and what connections they make and don't make.

Go to their website to "Join The Discussion" and write something!

"Preparation meeting

"Preparation meeting opportunity".

Hi Tonya. Hope you're doing

Hi Tonya. Hope you're doing well.

Funniest looking Bush

Funniest looking Bush pictures of all time?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/6/20/222212/335

I got the video.....I'll

I got the video.....I'll upload shortly

i stopped watching frontline

i stopped watching frontline after the "carl rove, political genuis" episode.

i'm not sure this topic even belongs on this site. i mean, are we expecting honest reporting out pbs, i'm not.

1. Has anyone ever had a

1. Has anyone ever had a nasty confrontation in real life or online with a self professed Bush-neocon administration hater/anti war person?
I swear be it on ultra left wing anti Bush forums, or in San Francisco talking with activists, so many want to call us crazy. Hell even on AbovetopSecret, the site all obsessed with UFOS and chemtrails or whatever, so many are quick to laugh about 9/11 "theories".

2. My god, An Inconvenient Truth is taking up THREE screens at my local multiplex. WTF? Hopefully when 9/11 Press For Truth and Freedom to Fascism comes out it will play at the multiplex. Freaking Gore and his global warming hoax movie.

3. Just a few days til LA, woot!

Google this guy: Mayo A.

Google this guy:

Mayo A. Shattuck III

Al-Qaida video shows alleged

In the words of Dick

In the words of Dick Cheney:

"We have to work the dark side, if you will"

Janitor William Rodriguez

Janitor William Rodriguez transcript:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/dazinith/115075377583575354/?a=24627#15...

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Well that sucked. They

Well that sucked. They covered most of the lying and deceptions surrounding the intelligence that got us into the war with Iraq, but Robert Greenwald basically made this documentary in March, 2004. They should have looked into the WHY quesitons: Why did Rumsfeld ask about Saddam the evening of September 11th? Why did Cheney insist on connecting Saddam to 9/11 in October of 2001? Why did we not put all our resources into finding Bin Laden? What a joke.

When was Fetzer supposed to

When was Fetzer supposed to be on H&C?

Fetzer will be on H&C

Fetzer will be on H&C Thursday.

Can someone post a video of

Can someone post a video of the AJ interview with greg palast?

does anyone know the date

does anyone know the date for the upcoming 911 debate with janedoe v. govt reps? isn't that taking place this summer?
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Anybody remember Opie and

Anybody remember Opie and Anthony slamming Loose Change and the filmmakers?
Even though 9/11 is a non-partisan issue, I couldn't help but notice Opie and Anthony's neocon ties, even after referencing Bill O' felafelfuckin' Reilly in their show they still claimed they weren't neocons.
Here they are buddying up to Sean Hannity on FOX news. The video is about halfway down the page, titled: "Radio Rebels"
http://www.foxnews.com/hannityandcolmes/index.html
Oh, and I also found this animated gif breaking down that video: http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/73396/My%20Documents/animated%20gifs/...

i fell dumbers now.

i fell dumbers now.

does anyone know the date

does anyone know the date for the upcoming 911 debate with janedoe v. govt reps? isn't that taking place this summer?
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James Ha | | Email | Homepage | 06.21.06 - 3:36 am | #

it should be on the front page here on the right panel under 'upcoming events'.. i dont know much about it.. there may be more details at st911.org as well..

I watched most of this last

I watched most of this last night. This is nothing new. I don't think they mentioned anything I didn't already know, and correct me if I'm wrong, but this was a half truth. Reason being, the motivation for Iraq and Afghanistan began on 9/11 according to this documentary. That is NOT the case.

And... they portrayed Tenet

And... they portrayed Tenet as a "good guy" who just made a few mistakes. ANYONE who was involved in the manipulation of intelligence for the Iraq War should be hung.

Oh man, those "conspiracy

Oh man, those "conspiracy smasher" type blogs and news sites(thankfully they are few and far between) are hillarious, because they genuinely believe there is not only no coverup to 9/11, but they think there is never any coverups or conspiracies. They have the kind of fervent hate that Ann Coulter would be proud of. The sad part is, some of them claim to be Bush hating liberals...Ive found that the most hateful mean spirited people are the people who call us kooks.

Helen Thomas is not a

Helen Thomas is not a truther, but now provides some helpful criticism of the 9/11 aftermath:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=695809

Quotes:
"It all comes down to the 9/11 terrorist attacks that led to fear among reporters of being considered 'unpatriotic' or 'unAmerican'."

"Every reporter, rather than challenging it and saying [the 9/11 hijackers] were not Iraqis they were Saudis .."

"Reporters have a duty to follow the truth wherever it leads them"

http://www.chomskytorrents.or

http://www.chomskytorrents.org/index.php
Has the documentary..among many else.

Does the Dark Side go into

Does the Dark Side go into any detail about 9/11 and how it was a U S Military shock and awe psyop and not a terrorist event? http://911closeup.com/nico/scar_berger.html

Weird. Watching it now, and

Weird.
Watching it now, and at about an hour into it, while talking about how flawed the report to go to war with Iraq was, there was about a 7 second interference with the program, a cut away to an ancient Larry King interview on some PBS show popped up with the PBS logo on the bottom right, and then suddenly it cut back to the Cheney piece.
Did anybody else notice this?
Cloak & Swagger | Homepage | 06.20.06 - 11:12 pm | #
i noticed it. it was at a pretty crucial moment in the documentary too.funny how that works.overall, it was a pretty good show, it gave some new insight into the run-up to war and the relationship between some of the administration officials. i never knew Cheney and Rummy were responsible for cutting Kissingers duties in half.i guess evil fucks dont always agree on everything.i dont know what you guys were expecting, PBS may be better than all the cable and network news channels as far as digging for truth, but its still MSM.and i agree with what dz wrote above, you could tell this was basically "the CIA shits on Cheney" show. i thought it was entertaining, but then, im a political junkie.

hey Amanda, got any new John

hey Amanda, got any new John Kaminski you wanna copy and paste?

and yes, Opie and

and yes, Opie and Anthony(and Norton especially) are all rightwingers that know next to nothing about politics. they think since this country is at "war" with arabs, it is their duty to wave their flags and not ask questions. typical republican puppets.

anybody catch the propaganda

anybody catch the propaganda at AOL this morning? this is the head story when you sign in:

Al-Qaida Video Shows Alleged 20th Hijacker
By KATHERINE SHRADER, AP

WASHINGTON (June 20) - Al-Qaida has identified a would-be 20th hijacker for the Sept. 11 attacks as a Saudi operative who was killed in a 2004 shootout with his country's security forces.

In a statement accompanying a new video, the terrorist network's propaganda arm identified Fawaz al-Nashimi, also known as Turki bin Fuheid al-Muteiry, as the operative who would have rounded out a team that ultimately took over United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a Pennsylvania field before reaching its intended target.

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060620213809990004&nc...

Yea, I saw that. The "20th

Yea, I saw that. The "20th Hijacker" wasn't Moussaoui. If "Al-Qaeda" claims he wasn't the "20th Hijacker" then didn't we sentence an innocent man?

Agreed Jon...they cant have

Agreed Jon...they cant have it both ways. Either Osama is telling the truth or he's a liar. They claim both.

And hey, check out this video that plays Beastie Boys Sabotage to 9/11 collapse footage...pretty clever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAwbDmc3Qvc&search=beastie%20boys%20sabot...

"Sabotage"

I Can't Stand It I Know You Planned It
I'm Gonna Set It Straight, This Watergate
I Can't Stand Rocking When I'm In Here
Because Your Crystal Ball Ain't So Crystal Clear
So While You Sit Back and Wonder Why
I Got This Fucking Thorn In My Side
Oh My, It's A Mirage
I'm Tellin' Y'all It's Sabotage

So Listen Up 'Cause You Can't Say Nothin'
You'll Shut Me Down With A Push Of Your Button?
But Yo I'm Out And I'm Gone
I'll Tell You Now I Keep It On And On

'Cause What You See You Might Not Get
And We Can Bet So Don't You Get Souped Yet
You're Scheming On A Thing That's A Mirage
I'm Trying To Tell You Now It's Sabotage

Whyyy; Our Backs Are Now Against The Wall
Listen All Of Y'all It's A Sabotage
Listen All Of Y'all It's A Sabotage
Listen All Of Y'all It's A Sabotage
Listen All Of Y'all It's A Sabotage

I Can't Stand It, I Know You Planned It
But I'm Gonna Set It Straight This Watergate
But I Can't Stand Rockin' When I'm In This Place
Because I Feel Disgrace Because You're All In My Face
But Make No Mistakes And Switch Up My Channel
I'm Buddy Rich When I Fly Off The Handle
What Could It Be, It's A Mirage
You're Scheming On A Thing - That's Sabotage

What do you guys think North

What do you guys think North Korea is doing with this missile launch? Is this just sabre rattling? What would happen if the United States detonated a Nuclear bomb in the U.S., and blamed it on North Korea? Claiming it was their missile? Giving them the opportunity to install Martial Law, etc...

To my knowledge, the missile

To my knowledge, the missile can reach Alaska.

Ron Suskind: US deliberately

Ron Suskind: US deliberately bombed Al-Jazeera

Crooks and Liars | June 21 2006

Ron Suskind appeared on "The Situation Room" today to talk about his new book "One Percent Solution," and said that the US took out Al-Jazeera office in Kabul purposefully.

Ron talked about Cheney's almost "Presidential-Vice Presidency" and claimed that the CIA determined the Bin Laden tape released the weekend before the '04 election helped Bush and that Osama wanted him re-elected.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/210606Suskind.htm

And hey, check out this

And hey, check out this video that plays Beastie Boys Sabotage to 9/11 collapse footage...pretty clever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...0sabotage% 20911

^ Dude, that's a "pod" movie. It's a great idea I love the beastie boys, but there's got to be an embargo on all this "pod" "hologram" over the top wild sh!t in my opinion.

What do you guys think North

What do you guys think North Korea is doing with this missile launch? Is this just sabre rattling? What would happen if the United States detonated a Nuclear bomb in the U.S., and blamed it on North Korea? Claiming it was their missile? Giving them the opportunity to install Martial Law, etc...
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^ I doubt it man, unless a real ballistic is lunched from North Korea no one will by that.

They can always do some kind

They can always do some kind of "Shock & Awe" here in America, and blame it on some patsy, and then martial law becomes reality.

They don't have to wait for a missile from NKorea!!

Just thinking out loud.

Just thinking out loud.

"The Dark Side" was yet

"The Dark Side" was yet another pile of government propaganda disguised as hard-hitting journalism.

Total reinforcement of the 9/11 bullshit story, wrapped in a few political jabs at the administration, in order to sell it to Democrats, while reinforcing the 9/11 fable.

I'm selling my TVs.

again, i dont know what you

again, i dont know what you people expected. havent any of you seen Frontline before? what the fuck were you expecting?

PBS may be better than the

PBS may be better than the rest of the MSM, but not by much. its still big media.

fuck Yahoo mail. anyone else

fuck Yahoo mail. anyone else having problems using Yahoo mail right now? goddamnit i HATE computers.

Jon, you might not be all

Jon, you might not be all that far off base:

N. Korea Has Already 'Mock Nuked' Alaska - With US Government Help
New reports about threat of missile launch omit key facts

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 19 2006

Reports today concerning the completed fueling of North Korea's long range Taepodong-2 missile and its planned launch within a month omit several key aspects of the story, including the fact that North Korea already launched a missile that hit Alaska, with the help of the US government.

In March 2003, the Korea Times reported that the U.S. National Assembly included a startling admission in its final report regarding PyongyangÂ’s missile capabilities.

A nuclear-capable North Korean test warhead was found in Alaska.

``According to a U.S. document, the last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska,Â’Â’ former Japanese foreign minister Taro Nakayama was quoted as saying in the report. ``Washington, as well as Tokyo, has so far underrated PyongyangÂ’s missile capabilities.Â’Â’

A story that would have expected to garner front page headlines for days was completely blacked out in the US, with not one single newspaper choosing to report it.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/190606mocknuked.htm

http://www.youtube.com/result

"Jon, you might not be all

"Jon, you might not be all that far off base"

I hope I am... Incidentally, if there is a nuclear explosion in the Continental United States, I would hope that everyone, no matter where you are, head to Washington D.C., and storm the White House.

I know I will.

new word from the hacker

new word from the hacker that infiltrated some government agencies and mentioned 9/11 when arrested.. nothing major though, just FYI for anyone interested in what he found:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/internet/0,71182-0.html?tw=wn_story...

i remember that guy, but i

i remember that guy, but i dont remember him saying anything about 9/11. what did he say about 9/11 when he was arrested?

I don't know if his

I don't know if his allegations are true or not. I do know that people frowned upon Paul Hellyer for talking about UFOs. I also know that it's an entertaining topic to talk about, but I wouldn't openly promote it. That's just me.

We have a hard enough time

We have a hard enough time maintaing our credibility without talking about UFOs in the factual sense.

Something I wrote a while

Something I wrote a while back...

Do They Exist, And Have They Visited Us?

"We have a hard enough time

"We have a hard enough time maintaing our credibility without talking about UFOs in the factual sense."

For some people I've talked to the UFO's would be an easier sell than 9/11 truth.

"For some people I've talked

"For some people I've talked to the UFO's would be an easier sell than 9/11 truth."

Sure, they don't have to do anything other than talk about it. If they accept 9/11 Truth, then they have to decide whether or not they have to do something about it.

N. Korea has already hit

N. Korea has already hit Alaska a few years ago. http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200303/kt2003030417272311970.htm

The youtube version of the dark side seems to be missing some. the full doc is 90 min

Mr. Gold: "Sure, they don't

Mr. Gold: "Sure, they don't have to do anything other than talk about it. If they accept 9/11 Truth, then they have to decide whether or not they have to do something about it."

Exactly. One of the main reasons keeping more people from speaking out about 9/11; because to acknowledge 9/11 as not being what the Official Story says it is, means that you have to actually do something about it.

But hey, American Idol is on, so who cares about 9/11 *sarcasm*

Call me Jon.

Call me Jon.

"For some people I've talked

"For some people I've talked to the UFO's would be an easier sell than 9/11 truth."

Funny. I was thinking of that scene in Men in Black, when Tommy Lee Jones is showing Will Smith the screens tracking aliens on Earth. And all these famous people that you always had your doubts about turn out to be aliens. That would sure explain alot, especially Dick "The Lizard" Cheney.

"because to acknowledge 9/11

"because to acknowledge 9/11 as not being what the Official Story says it is, means that you have to actually do something about it."

But all that you need to do is talk about it with everyone who will listen. That is all that has to be done about it. If everyone knows then everyone will have their bullshit detectors on and the enemies of truth will lose their power to propagandize and order people around.

Speaking of the dark

Speaking of the dark side...Boy these NWO guys really like blowing things up.(Oklahoma City, Oklahoma - New York City, New York - New Orleans - London) The current war cycle peaks in 2011.
Funny how that number ( eleven) keeps appearing. http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm

The discovery of a connection between Mohammed Atta and Abu Nidal in Iraq is interesting more for who it implicates as perpetrator of a false flag operation. Since Abu Nidal has been implicated as an asset of the Israeli Mossad, this becomes part of the evidence pointing the finger of guilt at Israel as the perpetrator of 9-11 because of the attempt to mask their involvement with false information that points toward their Arab enemies, especially Saddam Hussein.

"Al-Qaeda " is a name coined by Richard Clarke in 1998 and his revelations about the Bush Administration's dismissal of al-Qaeda prior to 9-11 are part of a carefully choreographed disinformation campaign to grind the al-Qaeda legend deeper into the mind of the American sheeple. Add a little "opposition" from the right and the left thinks they have a whistleblower. Soon "progressives" are buying Clarke's book and lavishing praise for his "courageous plea for forgiveness" for failing the American people. It makes great theater and the unaware and hapless buy the con, hook, line and sinker. The false flag operation gains more credibility as the Official Conspiracy Theory.

http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/911_has_shown_the_face_of_NWO.htm

Al-Qaida Video Shows Alleged

Al-Qaida Video Shows Alleged 20th Hijacker
By KATHERINE SHRADER, AP

The most revealing paragraph is the one below:

'A 54-minute video featuring al-Nashimi was obtained Tuesday by IntelCenter, a U.S. government contractor based in Virginia. U.S counterterrorism officials declined to comment on the authenticity of the video and its claims."

......IntelCenter, a U.S. government contractor based in Virginia........

They're privatization of the propaganda machinery (and the security which is required if you believe the propaganda) is truly scary. The "government" can put it out without taking responsibility for it. (Kinda like the CIA in the Documentary on Frontline)

These private security agencies will then provide their private "counter-terrorism experts" on the MSM to play up the story and give their personal endorsement of its authenticity..

The War on Terror is financial rackateering at its ugliest and most dangerous.

Any one have any insite into IntelCenter of Virginia?????

FYI, except in some cases

FYI, except in some cases where extremely damning information is contained in the program, such as the House of Saud episode, Frontline hosts most of it's programs at pbs.org/frontline

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/view/

They're usually posted the week of the original airing. These can be "ripped" with any standard .rm or .wmv ripper.

-Culhavoc

my humble suggestion is that

my humble suggestion is that we refrain from using the following string: UFO

Does anyone hand out

Does anyone hand out material about Sibel Edmonds? It seems like her story is such a good lead into 9/11 truth.
Also, I sometimes wonder if the truth about what's happening right now is as important to what happened on 9/11. The blogs seem to be capturing the attention of Rove and the largest ones are not even covering 9/11.

FYI, i was just listening to

FYI, i was just listening to Neal Bortz on my way back from lunch (because air america is off the air now in atlanta), and a caller called in claiming to have the 'smoking gun' on 9/11.. bortz let him on, and the guy was on for about 1-2 minutes, he listed WTC7 and silverstein's comments..

bortz of course then went into sarcasm mode saying 'yeah, and they blew up the world trade center too, there are no militant islamists'.. and his cohost said something like 'well sure, they had to take down several buildings after 9/11'..

just FYI.

Zbigniew Bzezinski, one of

Zbigniew Bzezinski, one of the architects of "al-Qaeda", talks about the credibility of the concept of "global terrorism."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam.

Yes - Area 51 definitely has

Yes - Area 51 definitely has a purpose, but it's not research into anti-gravity or light-speed propulsion.

It's supplying the gov't with a bona-fide group of perceived crazies with whom they can attach any believer in gov't ops.

"Does anyone hand out

"Does anyone hand out material about Sibel Edmonds? It seems like her story is such a good lead into 9/11 truth."

I'll make a Sibel flyer.

Don't forget to mention this

Don't forget to mention this when they play down Steven Jones' findings:

http://www.rense.com/general68/demo.htm

"...a group of more than 60 colleagues from two universities also agreed with Professor Steven E. Jones' conclusions. "

Bush Says 9/11 Drives U.S.

Bush Says 9/11 Drives U.S. Policy

But now I laugh and pull so hard And see you swinging from the Gallows Pole. Swingin' on the gallows pole!

Bush Says 9/11 Drives U.S.

Bush Says 9/11 Drives U.S. Policy
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Well, he's correct. He's just omitting the detail of exactly whom drove 9/11.

"Omitions and Distortions."

Did anyone try to address

Did anyone try to address comments to the Frontline producer during his Washington Post online chat today? It's shut down now, but if I had known about it sooner, I would have asked about war games, and Cheney taking over in the bunker while Bush read about goats. It seems ridiculous that a documentary covering Cheney as the most powerful VP in history didn't address those matters. Meanwhile, there's also a discussion going on at the Frontline site on PBS.org.

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I don't see Alex Jones' or Paul Joseph Watson's books.

u2r2h, you're forgetting

u2r2h,
you're forgetting Nafeez Ahmed's 1st 9/11 book
"The War on FREEDOM". Not only was this one of the first truth books to come out (july 02) but in my opinion it's better than the second.

Dude, that's a "pod" movie.

Dude, that's a "pod" movie. It's a great idea I love the beastie boys, but there's got to be an embargo on all this "pod" "hologram" over the top wild sh!t in my opinion.

i have dial-up and won't even bother downloading that, but am i to infer that the beastie's vid features the pod? and that you see this as inappropriate?
i don't think the pod is inappropriate at all and here's why: the pod/flash is what first got my attention as it's a powerful visual eye-opener, and after seeing that i felt compelled to learn everything i could about 911. young people are video oriented and can no-doubt relate to the pod/flash far more readily than a discussion of thermate or a pointing out of the inadequacies of the 911 commission report. i know that you see what i'm saying. so really, your (whoevers) anti-pod sentiments must be based on denial of the pod/flash very existence.
and well it should be. because the pod doesn't manifest itself until the last possible moment, where it suddenly appears from out of nowhere on the plane and emits the flash right before impact. i know you still see what i'm saying. so, look at the images of 175 as it's just about to impact wtc2; there is a pod AND a flash and THAT will grab a youngster's attention in this x-box era and hopefully make that youngster want to learn all about 911. because opening more people's eyes means opening the youngster's eyes. our generation is jaded and already locked into it's mindset. - ha, out.
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I think it's hillarious how

I think it's hillarious how so many "UFO", hacker, and other types think the 9/11 coverup is bullshit. Talk about the bigger pot calling the kettle black.

I think youre right...to acknowlege 9/11 as a coverup, is to then come back to reality and realize this is something you have to take a side on...and most people will fight to retain their ignorance.

Cheney could come on tv tommorrow and say they knew, or were in on it...and the morons of America would say "theres no coverup! tinfoil theorists!"

most people will fight to

most people will fight to retain their ignorance.

absolutely! that is exactly the mindlock that i seem to encounter the most in strangers - and i'm not talking about cgi fakery, i'm referring to the topic of 911 as a whole.
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u2r2h, you're forgetting

u2r2h,
you're forgetting Nafeez Ahmed's 1st 9/11 book
"The War on FREEDOM". Not only was this one of the first truth books to come out (july 02) but in my opinion it's better than the second.

Conyo! Muchas Gracias!
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has been updated!

I'll make a Sibel

I'll make a Sibel flyer.

I've been thinking of doing just that, not specifically related to her, but featuring her story among others...

I just noticed there's a

I just noticed there's a bittorent of this program at CONCEN:

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats.html?info_hash=ed1b04bcfd5eaa1c6...

-Culhavoc

PBS just launched their page

PBS just launched their page for this broadcast.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

The full program will be available as of 5pm EST today. (Thursday June, 22nd)

-Culhavoc