Lt. Colonel Mentions Shoot Down Orders on 9/11 on BBC

This is a followup to the submission we posted about here yesterday. This interview is in regards to protecting the World Cup.

We would expect that they might scramble fighters to intercept the aircraft, and if necessary - as we saw from 9/11 - possibly shoot down the aircraft.

I'm not sure how much can really be inferred from this clip alone, so take it for what you will.

Good job Eirik in tracking this down! Thanks to (_)sagi for the initial heads up as well.

I think we can then infer

I think we can then infer that flight 93 was shot down then...

http://team8plus.org/e107_plu

http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2234.20#post...
Zawahari Program is busy again via old idefense clan

http://tinyurl.com/nzg8g (theglobeandmail.com)

CAIRO, Egypt Jun 22, 2006 (AP)— Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader has issued a new videotape calling on Afghans to rise up against U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan in the wake of rioting last month in Kabul.

The video by Ayman al-Zawahri which would be his sixth this year was reported Wednesday by IntelCenter, an Alexandria, Va.-based contractor that provides counterterrorism intelligence services to the U.S. government..."

Meanwhile one has to pay tons of $$ for AQ to watch them :)
(the logo of this US gov "contractor" is pretty much obviously inspired by a swastika)

http://www.intelcenter.com/
http://www.intelcenter.com/audio-video/index.html

http://intelcenter-store.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page1.html

see also other books from CEO Ben N. Venzke
at http://tinyurl.com/gchkg

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Expiry Date.......... 2006-11-07
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Ben Venzke was also with idefense.com,
which was one of the very first TV analysts on ABC,
on the morning of Sep11th with their very early speculations on Bin Laden.

Most famous author of idefense.com was Jack Kelley, formerly also with USA Today.

http://tinyurl.com/klszq
911 Top 500 Questions
by Nico Haupt
07 May 2002

....17. Why did Jack Kelly, idefense.com, inform USA Today only 12 minutes after the first crash (8:48AM), that terror groups using Web encryption may have been responsible? And why was he so sure before the second crash at 9:03 PM?...

(NOTE: Jack Kelley of USA Today; idefense.com was
involved in a fabrication scandal during 2004:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism%20scandals
Journalism scandals
Jack Kelley, USA Today (2004)

"..In early 2004, an anonymous letter to editors of USA Today caused an internal investigation of one of its star reporters, Jack Kelley. Kelley resigned when a search of his computer found letters to friends asking them to pretend to be sources sought by the paper to verify his stories.

An internal investigation later found that Kelley had been fabricating stories or parts of stories since at least 1991, and that outside sources had been warning USA Today reporters about Kelley's accuracy... )

Here below Venzke is apparently recruiting other pre-and post 9/11 analyst propaganda writers, one year before 9/11:

http://tinyurl.com/he6yb
Tues, Oct 24 2000

iDEFENSE Intelligence Services (http://www.idefense.com) is now
seeking contributing writers for its series of Predictive, Forensic
and Strategic reports. Recognized experts in the field and those with
specialized backgrounds are invited to send query letters to Director
of Intelligence Production Ben N. Venzke at -email-.

Ben N. Venzke
Director, Intelligence Production

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Venzke's 1998 prior knowledge on anthrax-9/11 attack in his WMD publications
http://tinyurl.com/lflf9
Fri, Nov 20 1998
New Chem-Bio Documents/Resources
From: Ben N. Venzke

Reducing the Threat of Biological Weapons - June 1998
Domestic Preparedness Compendium of WMD Courses Sponsored by the Federal
Government - July 1998
Case Study: Sverdlovsk Anthrax Outbreak of 1979

Tempest Publishing
PO Box 22572, Alexandria, VA 22304-9257 USA

Venzke's Warming up for 9/11 propaganda in newsgroups

http://tinyurl.com/pevdu

Todays Terrorist Attack mailing.unix.snort Sep 12 2001
(* see below)

iDEFENSE - Call for Writers alt.comp.virus Oct 24 2000
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Palm OS Virus alt.comp.virus Sep 22 2000

From: "Ben N. Venzke" - view profile
Date: Wed, Sep 12 2001 1:18 pm
http://tinyurl.com/r3lr3

A number of "hackers" have begun calling for and attacking both Arab
nation state networks and terrorist related sites. If they begin to
meet with some success we can expect a significant response along the
lines of the attacks by pro-Palestinian actors during the
Israeli-Palestinian Cyber Conflict almost a year ago.

- Ben Venzke

I think we have the answer

I think we have the answer to why there isn't any 9/11 posts or discussion allowed at dailykos, americablog, crooks & liars, etc. They have created a secret email list called "Townhouse". Here's how Kos describes it:

"People talk about the need for the left to work together and have a unified message in the face of a unified conservative noise machine. So a google group was created called "Townhouse", and it included many bloggers and other representatives of the netroots as well as a large number of partisan journalists and grassroots groups. It allowed us to discuss policy, issues, tactics and coordinate as much as you can ever get a bunch of liberals to coordinate.

There was one big rule for this list, an important cog in the growing Vast Left Wing Conspiracy -- everything discussed was off the record."
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/6/22/22310/2106

I am absolutley positve that they have decided as a group not to address 9/11. Only if we could get in on that list...

The movie doesn't work for

The movie doesn't work for me but nice going...

hrm.. i just downloaded it

hrm.. i just downloaded it via the link in the article and it played.. maybe a missing codec, or maybe it requires windows media 9..

anyone else verify if this works for them?

I had to download it in

I had to download it in order to play it.

GREAT JOB GUYS.

One Persons Account of

One Persons Account of Waking to 9/11 as an Inside Job:

http://www.911truthseekers.org/modules/weblog/details.php?blog_id=36

I'm at a computer without

I'm at a computer without sound right now -- does the guy who says this have an AMERICAN accent? In other words, not someone from NATO but non-U.S.?

I assume he's American, in

I assume he's American, in which case this is a very very interesting statement.

I would have to agree with

I would have to agree with the above comment from the first President of the United States; he does sound American, or at the least, from the West.

He didn't outright say that a shoot-down happened, but he sure didn't mince his words about a POSSIBLE shoot-down of Flight 93 on 9/11.

That's pretty incredible to hear from a serving professional in his capacity, as someone charged with pre-emptive air security.

Nice find.

[b]possibly[/b]

[b]possibly[/b]

ooh brother.

ooh brother.

OT: On Fintan Dunne and

OT:

On Fintan Dunne and Daryl Bradforth Smith/Eric Hufschmid:

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=425

It's an interesting video,

It's an interesting video, but the way he phrases his reference to 9/11 does not seem to suggest he means "a plane was shot down on 9/11." Rather, he seems to be referring to the potential need to shoot down a plane. 9/11 here is just an example of one reason it may be necessary to shoot down a plane.

I would interept his

I would interept his statement as saying shoot it down as we did on 9/11 as oppossed to simuvac interpratation. However the first interpratation would suggest that this individual has inside knowledge and he is remaining silent. Maybe if someone in the 9/11 Truth community knows this person they can ask him to explain his statement. Its a stretch but not an impossibility.

Please don't file this in

Please don't file this in the evidence department. Very weak case.

OT 'Change' retells terror

OT

'Change' retells terror attacks' history
By DAYRON LEON

Recent political awareness in America has led a few into believing that President Bush was involved directly in the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. The conspiracy theory is nothing new and has been propagated by French author Thierry Meyssan and the underground film 'Loose Change.'..." http://www.alligator.org/pt2/060622column.php

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AJ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AJ7uFA8RwpQ&search=Vendetta%20911

A fine piece of editing here.

V for Vendetta meets 9/11 Truth.

The whole "shoot down" stuff

The whole "shoot down" stuff is just a distraction. I doubt any plane got shot down anywhere on 9/11. Plane crashes leave long thick dark trails of smoke rising up in the air for all to see for miles and nothing was spotted like that near Shanksville except for a brief light grey smoke plume identical to an ordnance blast. Wake up, no plane crashed in Shanksville...

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/06/shanksville-crater-oddity.html

The aircraft crew seemed to

The aircraft crew seemed to be under the auspices of NATO, they had their badges on their arms anyway.
It was worth noting that they said it would take one minute to react to a threat....Weren't the same aircraft system in use during a Bush visit to Europe in the summer of 2001?

Aw crap...9/11 blogger is

Aw crap...9/11 blogger is being simutaneously attacked from the no plane/pod/hologram and the 9/11 truth hater club on all fronts. *sigh*

i don't think this video

i don't think this video really says anything but the reason it was posted is a followup to an earlier comment.

i saw Al Gore's movie last night. 9/11 truth is the answer.

GO SEE THE MOVIE!

my personal opinion: I think

my personal opinion:

I think the idea that the plane was shot down is another false story planted out there. If there are doubts as to what hit the pentagon, why doesn't that skepticism extend to shanksville? What i think: some kind of aerial drone was packed with explosives and blown up in mid-air. Rumsfeld has a few intentional slips of the tongue and wala~ people latch onto it.

Other than the videos showing the planes hiting the twin towers, i don't think we have much evidence for actual passenger jets being used in 9-11 and especially not at the pentagon or shanksville.

but why would they intentionally plant such a false story? Well, maybe having a second layer of 911 truth out there that people can believe and still feel good about their gov't. neo cons would love it that they shot down the plane and are lieng about it. Lieing like that is so cool to people like Rush Limbaugh.

I am absolutley positve that

I am absolutley positve that they have decided as a group not to address 9/11. Only if we could get in on that list...
Ian C. | Homepage | 06.22.06 - 3:17 am | #

Interesting. But exactly who amongst these supposed liberals decided this and why???

There was one big rule for

There was one big rule for this list, an important cog in the growing Vast Left Wing Conspiracy -- everything discussed was off the record."
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...6/22/22310/ 2106

I am absolutley positve that they have decided as a group not to address 9/11. Only if we could get in on that list...
Ian C. | Homepage | 06.22.06 - 3:17 am | #
the conservatives have been doing this forever now(and sadly it works), its not surprising to see it happen on the establishment left.mark my word,sites like KOS will steadily move toward the center to get more power.the fact is,to get ahead in politics today you have to be pretty far to the right.disgusting.KOS is an agent anyway.

Sounds like Kelley was a

Sounds like Kelley was a media mole. Judith Miller certainly was. She was in-bedded with the neo-cons, especially Libby. Perhaps we need to have a 9/11-related website that posts the names of potential media moles along with incriminating evidence (their stories, backgrounds, and cozy friendships)?

On the basis of Bush and Cheney's offhand remarks, we can probably leave Adam Clymer off that list :)

Reinforcing the LIHOP. The

Reinforcing the LIHOP. The "shoot-down" straw man of Flight 93.

Next Rumsfeld will be 'slipping up' and mentioning "a missile" at the Pentagon. Oops... he already did. Damn.

>>>>I think the idea that

>>>>I think the idea that the plane was shot down is another false story planted out there. If there are doubts as to what hit the pentagon, why doesn't that skepticism extend to shanksville?

Duuude! Sweeet! (pun intended)

I'm glad SOME PEOPLE get it around here.

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/06/shanksville-crater-oddity.html

All the planes that struck

All the planes that struck their targets on 9/11 were some sort of drones.

All the dudes who claim that

All the dudes who claim that planes that struck their targets on 9/11 are some sort of drones.

Shill, don't make light of

Shill, don't make light of Gitmo. That hell-hole is yet another barbaric crime perpetrated by our gov't.