The Godfather of 9/11

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Many people have heard of the Project for a New American Century. But PNAC does not go far enough in explaining why 9/11 was carried out. This essay looks at the modern intellectual force who actually created the justification for 9/11.

Leo Strauss is the father of the Neo-Conservative movement, including many leaders of the current administration. Indeed, some of the main neocon players were students of Strauss at the University of Chicago, where he taught for many years. Strauss, born in Germany, was an admirer of Nazi philosophers and of Machiavelli.

So what does this have to do with 9/11? Well, Strauss believed that a stable political order required an external threat and that if an external threat did not exist, one should be manufactured. Specifically, Strauss thought that:

"A political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat . . . . Following Machiavelli, he maintained that if no external threat exists then one has to be manufactured"(quote is by one of Strauss' main biographers).

Indeed, Stauss used the analogy of Gulliver's Travels to show what a Neocon-run society would look like:

"When Lilliput [the town] was on fire, Gulliver urinated over the city, including the palace. In so doing, he saved all of Lilliput from catastrophe, but the Lilliputians were outraged and appalled by such a show of disrespect." (this quote also from the same biographer)

Moreover, Strauss said:

"Only a great fool would call the new political science diabolic . . . Nevertheless one may say of it that it fiddles while Rome burns. It is excused by two facts: it does not know that it fiddles, and it does not know that Rome burns.

So Strauss seems to have advocated governments letting terrorizing catastrophes happen on one's own soil to one's own people -- of "pissing" on one's own people, to use his Gulliver's travel analogy. And he advocates that government's should pretend that they did not know about such acts of mayhem: to intentionally "not know" that Rome is burning. He advocates messing with one's own people in order to save them from some "catastophe" (say the lack of justification to monopolize middle eastern oil to keep it away from our real threat -- an increasingly-powerful China?).

Moreover, since Strauss advocated "manufacturing" external threats, false flag terrorism seems to fit the prescription perfectly.

Is it any wonder that Strauss' disciples carried out 9/11? The cold war was over, so there was no real external enemy that was scary enough to maintain a stable political order. This is especially true given that: election fraud brought the neocons into office; their popularity was very low before 9/11; and they could only move the American public away from their traditional ideas of freedom and fighting only in self-defense if sufficintly terrified about a big, bad boogeyman.

The neoconservatives had to manufacture that external threat by "pissing on" New York, Washington D.C., and Pennsylvannia. They had to pretend that they didn't know that the planes were about to hit and that Rome was about to burn.

Strauss told them so."

GW your not fooling anyone.

GW your not fooling anyone. Everyone here knows that history doesn't repeat itself. These people say they're not facsists. So there you go, case closed. Why would someone who admirers Machiavelli lie? Is it even possible for politicians to lie? Im pretty sure its scientifically impossible.

"I am a most unhappy man. I

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined
my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by
its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated.
The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities
are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one
of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled
and dominated Governments in the civilized world -
no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a
Government by conviction and the vote of the majority,
but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small
group of dominant men."

Not a bad quote.

WOW. Now the "Convenient 7"

WOW. Now the "Convenient 7" are part of "Al-Qaeda".

A group of young men seized in a Miami warehouse have been charged in a federal indictment with conspiring with Al Qaeda to commit acts of violence in the United States, including blowing up Chicago's Sears Tower.

Is this the "Al-Qaeda" who didn't pull off the Madrid Bombings, or the "Al-Qaeda" that didn't pull off the London Bombings, or the "Al-Qaeda" that DIDN'T pull off 9/11?

In response

In response to:


you quoted WWilson.

For God's sake, please don't quote Woodrow Wilson.

the man was a scoundrel.

I have a really dumb

I have a really dumb question in regards to the "Convenient 7" as I'm referring to them (the 7 "terrorists" that were arrested yesterday).

As we all know, there are SEVERAL "cells" within the United States.

How hard would it be for the FBI to pick one to arrest just so Fox News could have their "Fox News Alert"?

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Thu., June 22, 2006 Guest

Thu., June 22, 2006

Guest Host: Christopher Bollyn interviews Eric Hufschmid

"What we face today may very

"What we face today may very well be a direct result of a plan that was put into play almost 100 years ago."

Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. - Woodrow Wilson
This is a government of the people, by the people and for the people no longer. It is a government of corporations, by corporations, and for corporations.
-U.S. President Rutherford B. Hayes

Different factions --

Different factions -- infighting -- that's how scandals happen.

Although sometimes, the people MAKE it happen. And sometimes, they even overthrow the government.

As for CNN, it's plainly the

As for CNN, it's plainly the CIA's news network.

What's bizarre is that they allowed 911 truth to spill out on their Hollywood show.

Actually, it's not bizarre at all.

Agee wrote in the original CIA "expose" that the CIA is like a mansion where no one really knows what the person in the next room is doing.

I assume it's the same with all intelligence.

The scum at the top is a different story, however.

They know.

And that includes the moron Bush.

And let me stress, again,

And let me stress, again, that I enjoy your blogs very much, GW.

The problem I have -- and I encounter it almost daily -- is this bizarre idolatry of the "founding fathers" and the supposedly splendid system they set up.

In fact, it failed miserably, as was inevitable, since any system that endeavors to "protect the minority of the opulent against the majority" (Madison) is bound to produce a ruling class, and by extention, a Straussian class.

Power corrupts; money is power.

The answer does not lie with a dusty document three hundred years old that never worked to begin with. In fact, Jefferson -- the most libertarian of the "fathers" -- expressed his wish for the criminalization of "thought" almost as soon as the ink was dry on his beloved document.

[He later regretted this move; he also regretted, bitterly, his failure to codify protections against the corporate form, which was only just emerging at the time of his death. Only goes to show that no matter how noble the individual, power will corrupt.]

The point is that "representative" democracy doesn't work, any more than "republican" democracy. Politically speaking, the US is no more unique than Australia, except that the US (used to have) a profound respect for freedom of speech, perhaps more so than any other country. That's about it.

More unique is America's utter lack of a socialist wing in the political spectrum; hence your unfortunate health care situation, amongst other things.

DIRECT democracy is the only system that has proven viable -- as in hundreds of thousands of years -- millions (!), if you believe some anthropologists.


CBSNews says an attack is

CBSNews says an attack is coming any week(dont have the link, but it was recent)

Washington prepares for 4000 workers to bunker down in massive terror drills

This "plot" is uncovered to take out Larry Pullerstein's Sears tower...just as Alex Jones predicted would happen in Martial Law 9/11. Thank god they didnt make it happen. And lo and behold, there was FBI involvement once again.

this goes perfectly with

this goes perfectly with yesterday's headline that Tom Ridge made a comment that the War on Terror could last decades!!!! DECADES!
This is EXACTLY what we're talking about here....a lifelong threat to poor america. Disgusting.

Watching CNN coverage of the

Watching CNN coverage of the alleged terror plot unfolding between Miami and Chicago, and saw a small, but interesting comment made by a Chicago citizen who simply said something to the effect that citizens have long felt something would happen in their city, whether it be from "outside or inside"...
I guess it could be determined she was distinguishing cities and/or states or continents, but I thought the comment could have just as easily meant "inside job" as well.
As for the rest of the coverage, most of it's total garbage.
I didn't quite know what to make of that interview with that guy, Brother Corey, from the "Sea of David", the supposed group alledged to have been connected to the plot who was claiming they aren't terrorists at all, yet he was a bit reluctant to discuss possible ties to AlCIAda.
That was just really strange.
A relative of one of the alleged terrorists was also interviewed, and had said this is total bs, saying they've been set up.
All in all, it's just confusing.
I was actually quite amazed that CNN was allowing these kinds of comments that were contradictory to the original storyline to air. Maybe Stewart's snappy remarks to Mr AC360 put a spark up his ass and he's decided to balance the propaganda.

The funny thing about

The funny thing about Strauss -- well actually it's not that funny -- is how common his theories were/are in the big black book of upper class intellectual theory.

George Washington was every bit the Straussian Bush is.

There is very little difference between American-style "liberalism'/"conservatism" and fascism.


George Washington:
“Mankind left to themselves are unfit for their own government.”


“Democracy will in practice lead to the destruction of a people's true values. And this also serves to explain how it is that people with a great past from the time when they surrender themselves to the unlimited, democratic rule of the masses slowly lose their former position”

Sorry GW, I like your blogs, but the "founding fathers" are nothing to be proud of. They were far, far worse, in fact, than anyting witnessed today.

Bush hasn't come CLOSE to the police state of Jefferson, or the Hitlerian genocide of G. Washington.

Time to grow up and put aside "rulers".

We have a future to build.

I'm thinking off the books

I'm thinking off the books black world ops. Not CIA, not FBI, nor any of that. Hell CIA and FBI might've been trying to warn people(or making insider put trades)

Look at what Ollie North said...he knows this type of ultra clandestine stuff needs to be wayyy off the official radar.

Could 911 be pulled of by

Could 911 be pulled of by Cheney/Rumsfeld without CIA involvement? Please watch this very important documentary about the friction between Tenet and the Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal at the time.
It proves definately who the real puppetmasters really are.
Thoughts please...

If you haven't seen 'The

If you haven't seen 'The Power of Nightmares', directed by Adam Curtis I suggest you do so. Lots of info on Strauss and the birth of the neocons and alquaeda

as far as this bullshit

as far as this bullshit Miami "terror plot", isnt the timing just perfect as usual? heres a qoute from the story on AOL you should remember:She said she talked to one of the men about a month ago. "They seemed brainwashed," she said.

this Miami story is the #1

this Miami story is the #1 story everywhere.its infuriating. its no surprise to me that this more than likely manufactured "terror plot" took place in Florida.

57 workers died from Ground

57 workers died from Ground Zero toxins

New York Daily News

Fifty-seven Ground Zero workers have died and thousands of others have been sickened by exposure to a noxious mix of chemicals released when the World Trade Center was reduced to smoldering rubble, their lawyer said yesterday.

But in a courtroom blocks from the site, the city denied responsibility, saying its contractors were acting in the nation's defense as they worked to restore Ground Zero in the months after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

Jon Stewart Grills Anderson

Jon Stewart Grills Anderson Cooper: When Is CNN's "Sense Of Mission"... "Going To Show On Air?"

still here said: "the

still here said:
"the "founding fathers" are nothing to be proud of. They were far, far worse, in fact, than anything witnessed today."

You're been making a number of provocative (and generalized) statements, with little or no substantiation. Please provide references to back up your claims. I'm always ready to be educated.

The analogy is a valid one.

The analogy is a valid one. Strauss' nationality is irrelevant.

As the fires burn brightly,

As the fires burn brightly, here is a letter I wrote by the fire:

Congratulations on catching those seven Israeli Army Commandos planning to blow up the Sears Tower. You do know that the Sears Tower is now owned by the same people who owned the World Trade Center don't you?

Now you may have the time to find out who planted the explosives in the World Trade Center buildings that brought 110 stories down in less than 10 seconds.

Here is a clue: Larry Silverstein, the new controller of the destroyed WTC complex, stated plainly in a PBS documentary that he and the FDNY decided jointly to demolish the Solomon Bros. building, or WTC 7, late in the afternoon of Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001.

This admission appeared in a PBS documentary originally aired in Sept. of 2002 entitled "America Rebuilds". In the documentary Silverstein makes the following statement;

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

This admission of using pre-planted explosives can be heard in his own voice in this audio file:

Good luck catching the real terrorists. They may be much closer than you think.

There was an interesting

There was an interesting shift in education within the US and Europe in the early 1900's.
As told by Norman Dodd, Congressional Investigator of "unAmerican" activities of tax-exempt foundations in the 1950s.
Google Video Interview with Dodd:
It's a very interesting interview.
The Ford Foundation pushing the country to merge into communism,
and the Carnegie/Gugenhiem/Rockefeller Foundations influencing Education in such a way to enable the Carnegie group to build their own stable of historians to control the American educational system with a "collectivism" result.
I'm trying to find out if there's any connection with Leo Strauss and any of these foundations.
What we face today may very well be a direct result of a plan that was put into play almost 100 years ago.

GW, you never cease to amaze

GW, you never cease to amaze me. Another great job.

> Strauss, born in Germany,

> Strauss, born in Germany, was an admirer of Nazi philosophers and of Machiavelli.

How could he? He was Jewish!

Seems to me that some of the most diabolically evil people in the world are not immoral as much as they are amoral. People, such as Zbigniew Bzrezinski and Strauss, play the world like it's some kind of chess match...

Yeah, he was Jewish. But

Yeah, he was Jewish. But there is a "model the bully" syndrome -- the abused becomes the abuser.

Oops - I refreshed my

Oops - I refreshed my screen.

Larry Johnson on the Miami

Larry Johnson on the Miami issue.

Caution is the watch word. The good news is that law enforcement had penetrated this group. This calls into question the Administration's insistence that you can't fight terrorism as a law enforcement matter. Really? If that's true then why was this handled as a "law enforcement" matter? This should be a reminder that law enforcement, particularly with the help of local law enforcement, is our first and best defense against domestic terrorism.

Some things to keep in mind. First, no weapons or explosives were recovered at the site of the raid. Second, the claim that one suspect "pledged bayat" (swore an oath) to Bin Laden should be treated as questionable. Bin Laden has been on the run since he escaped Tora Bora in December 2001. I don't think he is receiving too many visitors since then.

When this shakes out I suspect we will find a disaffected group of youths who had fantastical dreams of destruction but no real capability to carry out their evil fantasies. Given the Bush Administration's proclivity to play the fear card and use the threat of terrorism to scare the hell out of the public, a healthy dose of skepticism is warranted.

GREAT piece. the neocons

GREAT piece. the neocons were the perfect vessel for 9/11.those "values voters" along with the fools that voted out of fear of "terrorism" for the Bush/Cheney crime syndicate have no idea what they voted for......

Has anyone posted about the

Has anyone posted about the possibility that Jim Fetzer will be on Laura Ingraham tonight??

I posted this in another thread, but no response yet.


Has anyone posted about the

Has anyone posted about the possibility that Jim Fetzer will be on Laura Ingraham tonight??

I posted this in another thread, but no response yet.
Alex | 06.23.06 - 10:47 am | #
radio show? does she have a tv show?

"seven Israeli Army

"seven Israeli Army Commandos planning to blow up the Sears Tower"

Do you make this shit up as you go along?

I'm going bicycle blogging

I'm going bicycle blogging again today. What are you doing today to spread the message offline?

There's an aweful lot of

There's an aweful lot of FEAR MONGERING going on over the past 2 weeks. CNN has been really laying it on heavily. I tried to post my questions about all this hype on Anderson Cooper's blog, but they are censored.

I wonder what is really going on?

Chris: Look at the upper

Chris: Look at the upper right hand side of, under "Upcoming Events:
23 June 2006:
Interview: Jim Fetzer will be the guest
discussing 9/11 with Laura Ingraham (?)

That's all I know about it.

Itsaputon: You mean having my ass firmly planted in my chair, while I drink coffee and get a callous on my clicking finger, will do nothing for the movement? ;)

You make an excellent point, and I hope you keep posting it. I'm going to be putting out some flyers that I created.

"You make an excellent

"You make an excellent point, and I hope you keep posting it. I'm going to be putting out some flyers that I created."

I will keep posting it, because it motivates me to read what others are doing.

Anon said: "There's an

Anon said: "There's an aweful lot of FEAR MONGERING going on over the past 2 weeks."
I noticed that too. Anyone know if there's been a solid plan of action in the truth movement to counter the inevitable MSM misinformation that will surround a manufactured terror event? If not, let's put our heads together.

Breaking on CNN: U.S.

Breaking on CNN:

U.S. Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta is resigning from President Bush's Cabinet, the White House says.



I know this is basically

I know this is basically fruitless, but in response to americablog's blog entry on the bush crime family looking into bank transactions, similar to the lies and obfuscation found in the NSA wiretapping -- you know, we only tapped a few thousand people with al qaida ties, which morphed into NSA gear set-up at AT&T looking at ALL US internet/Phone traffic of hundreds of millions of US citizens --, I offered this comment and then pasted in the whole thing, wonder how long it will stay on their comments section --

Thanks to the false flag terror (911 OKC) that nobody (crooks and liars, dailykos, americablog) wants to discuss in a rational dialogue, of which ALL these illegal activities have been predicated, then you might as well bend your ass over, because until you understand that Al Qaida is a manufactured myth, that 911 WAS an inside job, then the ass reaming will continue until you are sitting and shitting in your own stinking blood.


A little perspective for you people with the blinders on --


Many people have heard of the Project for a New American Century. But PNAC does not go far enough in explaining why 9/11 was carried out. This essay looks at the modern intellectual force who actually created the justification for 9/11.

Leo Strauss is the father of the Neo-Conservative movement...


When this shakes out I

When this shakes out I suspect we will find a disaffected group of youths who had fantastical dreams of destruction but no real capability to carry out their evil fantasies.

I suspect we would also find some Government infiltaters and agitators, that just couldn't get them to actually do anything criminal in time for the press release....except maybe listen to the insane plans of the cointelpro operative who had befriended them. Hopefully they verbally expressed themselves, because silent nods of the head in the presence of these fantastic plans wouldn't be recorded by this wire.

Canada...then Miami....the propaganda is in full swing.

(And on the topic of this

(And on the topic of this thread)
Eloquent and right on the mark as usual, GW.!!!!!!

Anyone contacted Mineta and

Anyone contacted Mineta and asked him if he still stands behind his testimony given to the Hamilton hearings?

Maybe Cheney will invite

Maybe Cheney will invite Mineta to go hunting with him?

As I was saying, just found

As I was saying, just found this:

Black Muslims Infiltrated By Feds :

God these people are so predictible......

Now that sheds alot of light on the undercover officer at the conference that asked me if we are trying to engage the black Muslim movement in this. He thought it was a great idea.....I wonder why?

Just read the other quotes in this article by Meuler and Gonzales, and you can see where this is all heading.

You're been making a number

You're been making a number of provocative (and generalized) statements, with little or no substantiation. Please provide references to back up your claims. I'm always ready to be educated.
Alex | 06.23.06 - 10:08 am | #


The point of contention I guess is whether the “founding fathers” deserve, on the one hand, to be put up on a pedestal, or whether indeed they were more or less the same as our present rulers, if not worse. There’s also the question of whether tyranny is inevitable under any governmental system, communist, fascist or liberal democracy like the United States -- I think that it is, which is why I’m an anarchist, though I have sympathies with democratic socialism.

It’s not about “America’ per se; if we were talking about my country, Canada, I’d say the same thing about John A. MacDonald. There is a difference, however; Canadians generally don’t worship their “founding fathers”. I find it very peculiar, if not downright disturbing that many Americans have such a religious devotion to their “fathers”, so I feel obliged to speak out about it.

For starters, IÂ’d recommend this site:

Â…which explains, among other things:

“George Washington was the richest man in America, a man who enslaved 216 human beings who were not emancipated until after he and his wife had both died. Benjamin Franklin had a personal fortune worth at least $20 million in today's money. He was a champion of the Quaker plutocrats in Philadelphia and vigorously opposed the democratic western farmers of Pennsylvania.”

You might say that owning slaves is no big deal since it was the norm during WashingtonÂ’s day, just as you might say that Bill Gates is an ok guy because itÂ’s normal to try and amass fortunes larger than the GDP of combined countries under capitalism. But just as there are people who speak out against modern day slavery, so was there during WashingtonÂ’s time. In any case, thereÂ’s no denying that George Washington participated in genocide. For instance, in his fight against the Iroquois he remarked:

“Destroying not only the men but the settlements and the plantations is very important. All sown fields must be destroyed and new plantations and harvests must be prevented. What lead can not do will be done by hunger and winter.” He maintained that as many native Americans as possible should be killed, regardless of age or sex.

I could run down the list of each “founding father”, if you wish. For instance, Thomas Jefferson fiercely opposed the remarkable slave rebellion in Haiti, noting that "Nothing would be easier than to supply everything for your army and navy, and to starve out Toussaint.” Pretty much like Clinton did during his reign, or Bush his.

During the revolutionary period, Jefferson argued that punishment was necessary for "a traitor in thought, but not in deed.”

Today, we call that thought crime.

And Jefferson was the most libertarian of all the “founding fathers”.

Anyway, the point here is not to demonize America, but to demonstrate that wealthy elites are always more or less Straussian.

“To common people, freedom meant freedom from the oppression of colonial aristocracy as well as freedom from British rule. One of their favorite slogans was: "Common people must be free from all 'Foreign or Domestic Oligarchy.'" They thought in terms of liberation from all oppression, not just "independence from Britain."

As Zinn writes:

"The Founding Fathers did lead the war for independence from Britain. But they did not do it for the equal right of all to life, liberty, and equality. Their intention was to set up a new government that would protect the property of slave owners, land speculators, merchants, and bondholders. Independence from England had already been secured in parts of the country by grassroots rebellion a year before the battles at Lexington and Concord that initiated hostilities with Britain. . . . It is one of the phenomena of modern times that revolutions are not favored unless they are led by people who are not revolutionaries at heart.

"I would rather recognize the greatness of all those who fought to make sure that the Founding Fathers would not betray the principles of the Declaration of Independence, to make sure that the dead and maimed of the Revolutionary War did not make their sacrifices in vain. And so I would honor the soldiers of the Pennsylvania and New Jersey lines, who mutinied against George Washington and Mad Anthony Wayne. They were rebelling against the luxurious treatment of their gentry officers, and their own mistreatment: 500 lashes for misconduct, Washington decreed, and executed a few mutinous leaders to set an example.

"Add to the honors list in that great generation the farmers of western Massachusetts who resisted the taking of their homes and land for nonpayment of exorbitant taxes. This was the Shays Rebellion, which put a fright into the Founding Fathers, especially as it led to uprisings in Maryland, South Carolina, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. That rebellion persuaded the Founding Fathers that a strong central government was needed to maintain law and order against unruly dissidents, slave rebels, and Indians. These were the true revolutionaries of the Revolutionary generation."

Howard Zinn. "The Greatest Generation,"
The Progressive, October 2001

> Could 911 be pulled of by

> Could 911 be pulled of by Cheney/Rumsfeld without CIA involvement?

of course! (however Tenet whould have been "in the know"!)

The whole thing is a black-op. Killing many people is no joke. They need a highly paid, VERY PRIVATE crew. Of course the JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF / DIA / ONI know whats going on. But more importantly THE FBI was actually involved. I have no doubt about that.

Whats the name of the secret units of the FBI again? They have good MAFIA contacts, Cuban exile - nexus..

The ONI is behind it all.

Do you have any links re:

Do you have any links re: ONI? (in general?)

ONI seems to be even more secretive than NSA, and they're the oldest!

> DIRECT democracy is the

> DIRECT democracy is the only system that has proven viable

check the GRAEBER interview on my blog:

You'll love it.

ONI is also the meanest,

ONI is also the meanest, blood-bathiest...

You know.. ships, sailors, gruesome deaths... lots of them.

Counterintelligence continued to be a major ONI function until the establishment of a separate Naval Investigative Service in 1976. With the formation of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 1962, much of ONI's responsibility for politico-military intelligence was transferred to the new, joint-service agency. Operational intelligence and scientific and technical intelligence continued to grow in importance and scope within ONI

JSOC >> history

Check this out:

Awesome, thanks U2r Yes,

Awesome, thanks U2r

Yes, I've read the graeber interview, but I appreciate the thought.

He was fired from Harvard for his scandalous opinions.


saying point-blank

that people are capable of living together without rulers, and that they have done so for the vast majority (99 percent) of our history -- that's not right.

We should all be slaves be capital.

- peace bro

BTW, "blood-bathiest", great

BTW, "blood-bathiest", great turn of phrase :)

Is there a immunity for

Is there a immunity for whistleblowers in the USA? Someone knows?

The European union has fined 5 chemical Corporates almost a billion $ us ..and let the one company that alerted it to the price-fixing scam GO FREE.

Maybe different rules for indivicuals.