"Official Story" Losing Support in the UK

http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=537798

Daryl Bradford Smith interviews Dr. Sahib Mustaqim Bleher

He also believes that the attempts by the criminals to get control of the 9/11 "truth movement" will fail because he believes that people will see through their lies.

Dr. Bleher, May 25, 2006 7.2 mb

Thanks to Erik for sending this in.

I can't read that story...

I can't read that story... it hurts my eyes... the white on dark blue.

Jon Gold | Homepage | 06.25.06 - 12:33 pm | #

Whenever I find something that's difficult to read I copy it and paste it into a Word document and then Select All and change it to a color and typefont that is easy to read. (I prefer black and Times New Roman 12.)

Where is some LA conf.

Where is some LA conf. coverage?
I know it's weekened 9/11 movement has few dozens active people and MSM are morons but even 9/11 sites are silent..??

What's going on here..

Was the C-span and BBC coverage a hoax there?

Here's a way to wipe out the

Here's a way to wipe out the Official Story. I've made some DVD Packages that go like this:

"Gestapo" - a documentary that, among other things, explains their manipulation of public opinion by monkeying with radio broadcasts.

"Wag The Dog" - Admin doing fake news

"Outfoxed" - seen right after "Wag"

"The Great Conspiracy" - Control by fear

"In Plane Site", "LC2E", and other direct 9/11 title as I get them

"Uncovered" - the lies leading up to invasion

"Farenheit 9/11"

"Gattaca"

A lot of viewing time to get through all this, but if someone does, it's pretty convincing...

For those who are

For those who are interested, Jim Norton responded to my last email.

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10455

This interview predicts dire

This interview predicts dire consequences if the 9/11 plot is exposed by the MSM.

Do you suppose the gatekeepers who know the truth have decided that the massess are not mentally mature enough to handle the truth?

I concede that is no excuse for perpetrating the lie, but this complete and total MSM blackout is mindblowing!!!

Searching for answers...

I meant "perpetuating" the

I meant "perpetuating" the lie...

WHERE is word of the LA

WHERE is word of the LA thing?

Isn't Daryl Bradford Smith a

Isn't Daryl Bradford Smith a Jewhunter?

He kinda sounds like one YT.

He kinda sounds like one YT. Instead of attacking an entire "race" of people, we need to go after the direct perpetrators. Starting with GWB, Cheney, Wolfy, Pearle, Meyers and yes Condi & Colin too.

And whoever else I've left off.

Interesting... http://www.you

This LA conference thing is

This LA conference thing is scary, I remember far more info on the chicago conference. Are they purposely being secretive, or is there some blackout?

I'm not expecting the MSM to

I'm not expecting the MSM to cover it immediately... I'm talking about updates from people who are there, updates from the "liberal' media on the West Coast, maybe even the LA Times...

There's nothing.

A lot of viewing time to get

A lot of viewing time to get through all this, but if someone does, it's pretty convincing...
__lakezoarian__ | 06.25.06 - 9:08 am | #

Who's going to watch all that? Go with LC2E, then work downward.

My method of convincing

My method of convincing people:
1. Ask if they are satisfied with the official story of 9/11.
2. Ask how many skyscrapers higher than 40 stories collapsed to the ground on 9/11.
3. Ask if they know about Building 7 and how much.
4. Explain the problem that 9/11 was never investigated properly - problems with 9/11 commission including Zelikow's conflicts of interest.
5. Tell them about the incredible collapse of WTC7.
6. When they are receptive, give them a computer CD, which has in the following order:
1. All the clips of WTC7 falling
2. Text from significane of WTC7 falling from wtc7.net
3. Clips from Best of Web re: WTC7 fall
4. Clip about WTC7 Fetzer speaking on 911 Revisited.
5. Then go to 911 Revisited.
6. Then go to Griffin's Madison Lecture.
7. Put all this in one or two folders.
8. There is room for lots more audio and video on a third folder.
9. Put it on a computer CD. That makes it easy for almost anyone with a computer to make copies to give to others.

Does anybody know where on

Does anybody know where on the web I can find a clip I saw filmed about a month or two ago which has Professor Jones talking informally with what appear to be some of students about his preliminary findings, and showing him on the left and a video of the molten metal dripping from South Tower just prior to collapse on the right of the screen? The entire video is more than 30 minutes. I saw it somewhere before, and I'm wondering if anybody knows where I can view or download it on the web?

9/11 Conspiracy Theorists

Re: LA Conference There's a

Re: LA Conference

There's a bit of feedback on the LC Forum.

LA Feedback on LC Forum

All the best

Does anybody know where on

Does anybody know where on the web I can find a clip I saw filmed about a month or two ago which has Professor Jones talking informally with what appear to be some of students about his preliminary findings

Google video Link

Hope this helps...

Just so you guys know,

Just so you guys know, 911Truth.org is working hard to get the audio/video from the Chicago Conference up...

http://911truth.org/911rtt/events.html

It's not complete... they're still waiting for some footage.

Review of the Film - "Who

Jeff, go to minute 55 of

Jeff, go to minute 55 of What's The Truth?

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=95
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8989407671184881047&q=%22what's+the+truth%22

Or, watch his whole video.
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/02/dr-steven-jones-utah-seminar-video.html

Interesting... http://www.you

Interesting...

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum...ead.php? t=10970
Jon Gold | Homepage | 06.25.06 - 10:31 am | #

Mr. Gold, In the future please consider posting an article title, or some clue of the subject matter, when posting these otherwise hollow teases pointing to your site. Thx.

The reason I post things

The reason I post things sometimes as "interesting" is because it's really not "important" news, but news people who "follow" what I do might find interesting...

If it's important, I post the title, as I did twice after that.

I don't care how many people visit my site honestly... all I care is that it helps the movement in some way. I think it's done that.

You know what would be a

You know what would be a real catch of an archive video to find?

I saw it on CSPAN within a month or 2 of the close of the 911 Whitewash Commission. It was some sort of press conference, both Kean and Hamilton were there.

A woman reporter, youngish (guessing

Does that mean I don't get

Does that mean I don't get excited when a lot of people sign up?

phhh... I LOVE when that happens.

Does it very often? NO.

Do I continue posting GOOD information.

YOU BET YOUR ASS I AND OTHERS DO.

You guys have to understand

You guys have to understand something about me. One of my GREATEST THRILLS is when a newcomer comes to my site to ask a question. I LIVE for that. It's the ONE THING that keeps me going day in and day out... it's the ONE reward I get in this "line of work". That's the real reason I ask people to go to my site.

This was written before the

This was written before the US TV media went nuts with the Miami "terrorist" story.

Controlling The News: June 22

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4695

I can't read that story...

I can't read that story... it hurts my eyes... the white on dark blue.

I was at the alex jones

I was at the alex jones conference yesterday, and he will be on cspan today at 10 am PST.
Check it out at www.cspan.org

You know what would be a

You know what would be a real catch of an archive video to find?

I saw it on CSPAN within a month or 2 of the close of the 911 Whitewash Commission. It was some sort of press conference, both Kean and Hamilton were there.

A woman reporter, youngish (guessing

Well dang, half of what I wrote got mysteriously chopped off. begrudgingly,

youngish female reporter, foreign accent, asks about the former discrepancies in 911 testimony. Kean replies all discrepancies have been ironed out, and they're brimming with pride that their "bipartisan committee" report was completed "without dissent." What was funny was, the nonverbal aspect. Kean looked embarrassed as he gave this preposterous canned answer.

It was an indictment of the crime of the century similar to that classic bush "911_laugh" clip,
http://www.loosechange911.com/download/9_11laugh.mpg

I don't see anything on

I don't see anything on cspan.org?

"More aspirational than

"More aspirational than operational".

So does that mean if I aspire to trade stock based on an inside tip and make a cool 2 or 3 million, that I'm guilty of insider trading?

Nevermind the fact that I don't actually have the means or wherewithall to pull such a scheme off! What the (bleep) is going on in our country!?!?!

Reuters just picked up the

What's happening here?It

What's happening here?It looks like we dropped the ball on this l.a. thing , bigtime. We were all over the fetzer interview as it happened,and yet all I see on this is a few trickles from Jon Gold.

Isn't Daryl Bradford Smith a

Isn't Daryl Bradford Smith a Jewhunter?
YT | 06.25.06 - 10:20 am | #

He's a Zionist hunter... you know, Zionists, that supremely racist, imperialist cabal of criminals who's MO depends upon systematic secrecy and deception (remind anyone of the NeoCons, most of them US/Israeli dual citizens)? That cabal which takes refuge by hiding in the midst of good ethnic Jews and practitioners of Judaism worldwide, and then tries to shame those who dare to single them out, with hollow smears of "anti-Semite" and "neo-nazi" and "holocaust denier" among others?

Yeah, THOSE ZIONISTS!

Israel Can No Longer Rely On the Support of Europe's Jews

The feeling is growing that Jewish honour and heritage have been more convincingly preserved in the diaspora

by Max Hastings
The Guardian
Tuesday June 20, 2006
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1801566,00.html

Yeah , instead, lets get

Yeah , instead, lets get involved in arguements about anti-semitism.

Jon , have you found that

Jon , have you found that Alex Jones bit on c-span? Or is this talk about c-span and bbc coverage just hype?

If it's on C-SPAN at 10am

If it's on C-SPAN at 10am PST, then I don't see it... cause now is 10am PST, and I just went through all of my channels, and didn't see it.

cspan? today or tomorrow?

cspan? today or tomorrow? any more info on that?

These posts about msm

These posts about msm coverage are coming from anonymous posters for the most part.Pisses me off.I jumped out of bed this morning expecting a firestorm of 911 blog activity.

Can someone tell me what

Can someone tell me what S.Jones used his keynote address for if not to reveal his new information? We don't have this kind of time to wait for the "right" moment to reveal findings.

I can't read that story...

I can't read that story... it hurts my eyes... the white on dark blue.
Jon Gold

Well I hope the "Truth' comes out in Black and White..........(news print that is......not mythical forces of good and evil.)

Until that time, I think they've found your weakness.

Attention Authorities: Jon Gold is white on dark blue blind!!!!! Adjust your reporting accordingly.!

>What's happening here? I

>What's happening here?

I guess the usual MSM censorship...

9:30 AM IN L.A. maybe

9:30 AM IN L.A. maybe everyone will be waking up soon...

Two Facing McKinney In

Two Facing McKinney In Primary

"But McKinney, who declined to be interviewed for this article, has said repeatedly that it’s important to have someone in Washington who is willing to “speak the truth” about Sept. 11 and the Bush administration’s deceptions leading up to the U.S. invasion of Iraq."

Send Dave an email of support for Cynthia McKinney...

dave.williams@gwinnettdailypost.com

Dave, I fully support

Dave,

I fully support Representative Cynthia McKinney, and her efforts regarding the lies surrounding 9/11.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Gold
Address and Number

Interesting, no mention of

Interesting, no mention of the 'other' Zogby poll or WTC seven.

Also " hijackers trained on US military bases", although suggested by many good sources, is hardly the rallying cry of 'most 911 skeptics."

Greg , I can understand the

Greg , I can understand the msm censoring , but one of our great strengths as I see it is the speed of our net reportage.I am immensely greatful for the speedy coverage that those on this site and others have given to other stories , I just think we can do better than this.Imagine if we could all watch LIVE via webcam, save to millions of harddrives and instantly sling it around the globe as it happens.I'm afraid that if we can't adequately cover something with advance warning , how will we do when the next false flag event occurs ? This time we may not have even one day before the initial reports are doctored or deleted.

all I care is that it helps

all I care is that it helps the movement in some way. I think it's done that.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 06.25.06 - 12:24 pm | #
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I seconded that!!

listening to "british" mp3.

listening to "british" mp3. my recommendation is to avoid it.

it reminds me of firesign theatre.

the machines are trying to find the pass codes for zion again.

host is obsessed with "crypto-zionists". it would be ok if he was the one being interviewed but he's trying to get the guest to agree with his views.

not focused - not helpful - content not as advertised.

my two cents.

Time for an LA post&thread ?

Time for an LA post&thread ?

That's a good idea. SBG..

That's a good idea.

SBG.. make it so.

Did you get the Jean Luc

Did you get the Jean Luc Picard reference?

Dave, I fully support

Dave,

I fully support Representative Cynthia McKinney, and her efforts regarding the lies surrounding 9/11.

Sincerely,
Michael Gillis Jr.
_______________---
Thanks for the e-mail addy, Jon ;)

Cool.

Cool.

The reason there isn't

The reason there isn't 'blogging news' pouring out of the LA conference is probably because it is mostly a series great speeches by great people involved in 911 Truth, but familiar to those that have been following all of this and probably have heard or read the facts presented before.

What I'm really waiting for is:

Any and all MSM coverage ( hopefully some of them fair, or at least slightly revealing of uncomfortable facts, Reuters does not give me confidence in that.)

What Ray McGovern had to say in his presentation.

If Steven Jones revealed any new more conclusive information on his thermate research. ( I doubt he did or this would be out quickly....but I could be wrong.)

That Reuters article is a

That Reuters article is a disgusting smear tactics from the title to the end. The author should be kicked out from the journalist guild.

There is no mentioning of Ray MacGovern, subtext messages like Charlie Sheen is authority on the subject etc..

I hope that cretin will get some response at least for a few of us from this blog..

Engage.

Engage.

He'll certainly get an

He'll certainly get an earful from me Tono Stano ,that was a subtly sick article.

Does anyone else get the

Does anyone else get the feeling the internet has already freed the world and the effects are just taking a little while to be seen in the world? It appears that the powers that be are hanging on by their fingernails and today's attack by David Brooks on dailykos is a very good sign.

Itsaputon, In responce to

Itsaputon, In responce to your question: Yes!

I put the post about the

I put the post about the cspan, Chris, Alex Jone's Producer said this at the conference last night when it ended, i heard him say it.
It will probably be on cspan tape delayed or something.
In regards to new info from Steven E Jones, his words that he believes it was an Inside job, was new news to me, and other slides he had on his presentation, he has added new pictures of the steel beams he has analyzed from ground zero that are at "memorial parks".
He also said other new things, his talk was by far the most informative.
I hope Alex will put it up for free soon, as it was 2 1/2 hours of lots of info about many things relating to the twin towers, and the evidence is extensive.
I hope others who were there yesterday will comment, it was quite a good show.

listening to "british" mp3.

listening to "british" mp3. my recommendation is to avoid it.

Daryll's interviewing isn't top notch, he is certainly "focused" on Zionism as the root of many of our modern ills (see http://iamthewitness.com ), but this isn't all bad, esp seen as a tiny counterbalance to the extraordinarily lopsided world view which our Zionist controlled MSM presents to the world, even to 911-truthers who fancy themselves well informed. http://AIPAC.org owns Washington, both the Repugs and the Demrats. The same cabal controls the MSM and Hollywood, which rain down our culture and news and tell us what to think of it all. News of Israel is blacked out, except to portray Jews/Israel as perpetual victims. Daryll's message offers a much needed balance to this runaway political and media control bubble. Truly well informed people should lap it up eagerly, and not be deterred by the tiresome, hollow, overspent smears which certain people will try to shame you with, for asking good questions about how our world works.

One look at reader comment thread on this May 4, 06 911blogger entry about the audio of Eric Hufschmid talking with the Loose Change makers,
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/05/hufschmidt-discusses-911-movement-with...
reveals just how pervasive are the whipping/gatekeeping efforts from certain quarters, NOT to examine anything which touches Israel!

Rant over. Let those of us in the 911-Denial Community get on with the business of dishonoring the victims of 911 again. :)

A good collection of

A good collection of clips.

Mineta and other interesting stuff.

http://tyrannyalert.com/video.htm

"I hope Alex will put it up

"I hope Alex will put it up for free soon, as it was 2 1/2 hours of lots of info about many things relating to the twin towers"

...Alex Jones is a business man, who makes a living off of this.

Correct, but others will put

Correct, but others will put it on google video, and other places to download for free.

Exactly.Trillions have been

Exactly.Trillions have been made for warmongers over all this . Why is it wrong that someone should make a living,from spreading the truth ?

Thanks to google, we have

Thanks to google, we have some more preliminary info on Mrs. Jill Serjeant.

So this lady is with the Reuters LA bureau, and her articles are about muslim immigration; one nice piece about the Lipstadt/holocaust process
added as link..

Since it is an admitted fact that Lipstadt got millions of u$d from the owner of Victoria secret to her legal team, which spilled out into the press as well. Mrs. Searjant's assignement to cover 9/11 is very interesting and most probably not random choice..

So, this pathetic scribbler Jill Serjeant is in my book a perfect candidate for the gov/CIA journalist squad of fast reaction.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/trial3/Reuters300500b.html

A BIG mistake by Alex

A BIG mistake by Alex letting Jimmy Walters promote the theory about holograms at the twin towers.

Alex probably didn't know but that's his mistake.

The MSM media always picks the WEAKEST LINK. And they are probably going to write about Jimmy Walters crazy theory rather than Steven Jones findings.

An opportunity like this should have been more carefully planned. Why did he let him speak. He has no credentials. It would have been better to let kevin ryan speak.

Yes , I've been looking into

Yes , I've been looking into her since , too."Gov/cia journalist squad of fast reaction"- Christ , they are fast , if we read about it from them first.

Yes, people will see through

Yes, people will see through their lies...

If I had to pick out which flights have the fake grieving family members, it would certainly be the ones that crashed into the WTC - with the staged phone calls and so forth. Now, when looking at the list of those who died on flight 77, it is nothing but retired Admirals, Boeing propulsion engineers, bioweapons company CEOs, and so forth. Which leads me to believe that a lot of the people who are listed as dead from the flight that supposedly crashed at the Pentagon are, indeed, dead, because somebody wanted them dead. I would suspect that a lot of them were involved in various capacities
in the planning of parts of 911, and if anybody would know for sure what happened that morning, it was them. For all we know, that could explain why there was no plane at the Pentagon - i.e., the government had to invent an explanation for their deaths. And for all we know, in reality they could have all been lined up and shot - execution style.

http://thewebfairy.com/911/bingham/Msg00001.html

http://nineeleven2001.tripod.com/images/ua175-1-a.swf

I know the MSM picks up on

I know the MSM picks up on Jimmy Walters, and his talk was the worst talk yesterday, but he has a right to voice his opinion, and he has been doing a lot of work with other countries.

I've listened to Walter in

I've listened to Walter in Japan press conference and there was no hologram stuff mentioned at all. Only one moronic journalist kept trying to discredit him..

colin> Did you find some

colin> Did you find some direct email conntact on her? So far, nothing has popped up..

If we could find the Reuters email formating of employers names it will be easier to fill in her name..

Amandareconwith, remember

Amandareconwith,

remember that all those grieving familys are probably genuine..

all four flights that dissappeared that day.. one way or another..were half full for a reason!!....

those people were used..

they disappeared..one way or another..

out at sea..who knows?

Surely most are aware that

Surely most are aware that the kind of holograms on "star wars" ,(let alone the" planes as holograms") are not currently possible ? Someone would look into the scientific plausibility of it , before propounding it on a podium , you'd think.

>Pentagon are, indeed, dead,

>Pentagon are, indeed, dead, because >somebody wanted them dead

Another possibility is them having new identities issued by the CIA now. Like Mrs. Olson, the NeoCon star. Of course not all of them. Such as Ellen Mariani being the widow of a Flight 175 crash victim - the only such case - who most likely died 'somehow'.

Show them THIS:

Show them THIS: http://youtube.com/watch?v=AJ7uFA8RwpQ&search=Vendetta%20911
9-11 Vendetta video! It is GREAT! And anyone who has already watched V for Vendetta knows how 9-11 is just what it reminds people of!

Jimmy walters has been

Jimmy walters has been compromised..

someone found the skeleton in his closet...

Really I mean you have all

Really I mean you have all these incredible speakers and than Jimmy starts talking about holograms.

The media just has to mention this and the average reader won't take the article serious.

Remember the story about the

Remember the story about the pentagon or cia wanting to make a hologram that would appear like Alla over Baghdad or Mecca???? But someone asked what Alla would look like and the plan was kiboshed. Does anyone have a link?

Tono , still looking , I did

Tono , still looking , I did come across another telling sample of her "work" , I'll give you just the title; "Youve got mail (and maybe a sexual disease)" Perfect netsmearing.

I too have attended a Jimmy

I too have attended a Jimmy Walter 9/11 speech. This is the first I'm hearing about holograms.

Dissappointing if true.

Let's just stick with what we can prove. Thermite, WTC7, Insider Trading, et al.

lifetimenonfiler, What do

lifetimenonfiler, What do you mean Jimmy Walters has been compromised? HOW?

Guess Jimmy won't be buying

Guess Jimmy won't be buying all that footage , eh ,George Washington ? You out there buddy?

Colin, well I'd like to have

Colin, well I'd like to have a conversation with her one day. Just recently had a talk with nice lady, which did't buy the devilish government type of argument. After, presenting Operationing Nortwoods, LBJ and Tonkin, LBJ and that sunken ship between Izreal and Egypt and lot of other on the record examples she just went back to the innitial line, gov. can't be thack bad..

So, in those situations it's hard not to trash them by yellow pages to reset their cpu haha

That guest Dr. Sahib

That guest Dr. Sahib Mustaqim Bleher is Excellent, such a great insight, quite inspiring actually. I'd say he's right about the sentiment and public feeling in this country. Not everybody knows about the 9/11 issues though, although more and more certainly are. But the Iraq War, B-Lair's bullshit, whitewash reports, Dr Kelly's death, attacks on civil liberties, the outrageous actions of anti-terror police, and the total refusal of an independent investigation into the 7/7 bombings has totally laid the ground for a public uprising given the right spark I think. And that spark would be the realisation that any of these terror attacks was somehow even in the slightest facilitated by rouge elements within government.

The bad points about the interview were the interviewer’s constant mentioning of Zionism. I agree that there are Zionist scumbags in this world; the actions committed by the state of Israel truly do sicken the crap out of me. But even though he did make the key distinction between good normal Jewish people, and criminal Zionists, the constant mentioning of things like “crypto Jew” etc does blur those lines considerably. And although I got where he was coming from, I think his rhetoric on it is way to excessive.

Maybe she doesn't even exist

Maybe she doesn't even exist and "jill serjeant" is a play on "drill sergeant" ,and she's really some 200lb ex-cia shill.;)

>out at sea..who

>out at sea..who knows?
>lifetimenonfiler | 06.25.06 - 3:23 >pm | #

a realisic possibility: Watching the live 9/11 TV coverage with the ever present lie 'Attack on America' title, they constantly mentioned 2 major military/FAA operations: First, prohibiting all commercial flights, and Second, dozens of battleships sent to the East coast to 'protect' NYC.
- this made covering up an ocean-side crash very simple. The 'magic' DNA identifications perfected the illusion.

Have you heard about the

Have you heard about the last terror alert in Europe today??

One white guy got strapped with explosive inside a park right in the center of moslim housing project in Stockholm, Sweden.

According to police he is not a nut but genuine victim of highjack..

What the fu$$ck are the US spec ops smoking? This makes no sense at all?!?

It could have been done in cooperation with some right wing swedish nuts as well, rightwing policeman was a key suspect in the slaughter of Swedish PM in the 1980s..

While McKinney touts on her

While McKinney touts on her campaign Web site her role in sponsoring the first ever “open briefing” on the 2001 terrorist attacks, she drew fire from across the political spectrum a few years back when she suggested that President Bush may have known about the plans for 9/11 beforehand.

Lone voice
But McKinney, who declined to be interviewed for this article, has said repeatedly that it’s important to have someone in Washington who is willing to “speak the truth” about Sept. 11 and the Bush administration’s deceptions leading up to the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

look at this trash. same tactic, different election cycle. this will be a sort of a litmus test for the 9/11 truth movement. the first time the media used this tactic against McKinney, it worked pretty well.McKinney is a great woman.

Tono , as to her statement;"

Tono , as to her statement;" the gov couldn't be that bad ."I say why couldn't they ? Did you press her for an explanation?

Yes, people will see through

Yes, people will see through their lies...

If I had to pick out which flights have the fake grieving family members, it would certainly be the ones that crashed into the WTC - with the staged phone calls and so forth. Now, when looking at the list of those who died on flight 77, it is nothing but retired Admirals, Boeing propulsion engineers, bioweapons company CEOs, and so forth. Which leads me to believe that a lot of the people who are listed as dead from the flight that supposedly crashed at the Pentagon are, indeed, dead, because somebody wanted them dead. I would suspect that a lot of them were involved in various capacities
in the planning of parts of 911, and if anybody would know for sure what happened that morning, it was them. For all we know, that could explain why there was no plane at the Pentagon - i.e., the government had to invent an explanation for their deaths. And for all we know, in reality they could have all been lined up and shot - execution style.

http://thewebfairy.com/911/bingh...m/ Msg00001.html

http://nineeleven2001.tripod.com...s/ua175-1- a.swf
AmandaReconwith | 06.25.06 - 3:05 pm | #
this is one of the main reasons i dont think Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. the people on the flight.Burlingame in particular.(you'll notice his wife is the one who spoke out on Loose Change and how "sick" it was if i remember correctly, and she stumped for Bush in 04, hmmmmmmmm......)

"Next was Jimmy Walters

"Next was Jimmy Walters presentation. However I was a little disappointed that he suggested that all of the plane impacts that the world saw on 9/11 were special effects trickery."

^ Well we know who to blame for that bullsh!t, it's that bitch "Nico Haupt aka ewing2001". But to be honest, Jimmy Walter should have some brains of his own, it's his own fault for being a gullible dumbass. I mean spending millions, and travelling all over the world, to then rune it all with wild bullsh!t like that, what a joke. Holyshit actually, I hope that's not what he's been preaching across the globe. Cus if he has then that's really not cool, maybe that's why Chavez hasnÂ’t held that investigation yet.

Colin, yes but she is was

Colin, yes but she is was probably one of that group which goes into violent moronic denial after confronted with the fact that she can't win the argument battle.

You know these people, they will admit you have win the debate, and next minute start the same innitial denial tactic from the scratch.

=> that must be some prewired mental condition, certain percentage of population behaves just like that.

Sometimes is hard not to call them openly cretins, idiots and morons, but I have serious suspicion they are really biologically different stock. Just ask some neuro/psycho scientist, almost half of the people are like that..

let Jim make a few mistakes

let Jim make a few mistakes if that is what they are.

he's spent much of his fortune, his free DVD sent to me helped convince me, especially the part with the MIT Engineer.

i suspect that those who attack members of the movement may be trying to spread the deadly Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.

worked for microsoft

I think Daryl has some good

I think Daryl has some good points, and he *does* repeatedly distinguish between Judaism and Zionism.
I also think that he's as strident and irritating to listen to as Alex Jones can be.
Big thumbs down for what Smith had to say about gays. He portrays gay people as victims of some right wing propaganda campaign instead of people who likely from birth prefer sex with their own gender. When two people love: Bravo.

Guess I'll check back

Guess I'll check back tommorow for LA news .

for info on Jimmy Walter see

for info on Jimmy Walter see 911reopen.org. This page hosts no-plane theories, but also WTC7 etc.

He doesn't seem like an enemy of truth. And the no-planers have a point that "seeing is believing" for many, so you just have to show them some hollywood stunt.
no-plane has a problem with all the photographs of course - it would require a BIG conspiracy of many media types, and BIG conspiracies never work, unless it's overpaid CIA agents

What do you mean Jimmy

What do you mean Jimmy Walters has been compromised? HOW?
Sue | 06.25.06 - 3:39 pm |

Sue, compromised.. is just a guess... he's spent millions for 911 truth..but holograms???..no way!!!too new! better to use good old fashioned 40 year old tried and true laser guided remote control autopilot!! or something of the sort...

I think the NSA has found the skeleton in Jimmy's closet...

sorry my last post: i meant

sorry my last post: i meant http://reopen911.org

" let Jim make a few

" let Jim make a few mistakes if that is what they are."

Dude, this "no planes" idea is a joke that the media will use to attack all 9/11 sceptics. So even if it comes from Jimmy Walter (who I respected a great deal for doing that 1 million challenge to prove the towers weren’t demolished) I'm going to disagree and say "no planes" is never going to do help expose a damn thing. In fact it's going to harm the effort to expose these crimes. He should know better then to damage credibility like that. I bet Alex Jones is pissed at Jimmy for coming out with that sh!t, especially when there’s meant to be a ton of press attending etc. Everybody makes mistakes, and I’m all for free speech, but this “no planes” crap even if it’s valid needs be put aside, it’s really not needed when you’ve got a mountain of other evidence that’s actually credible.

The introduction also

The introduction also recounts first of two Pentagon training exercises begun October 24, 2000, that involved a crash simulation of a Boeing 757 into the Pentagon. The film points out that Charles Burlingame, the pilot of American Flight 77 which is said to have crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11, participated in the exercise in 2000. He was an ex-Navy F-4 Pilot

I bet Alex Jones is pissed

I bet Alex Jones is pissed at Jimmy for coming out with that sh!t, especially when thereÂ’s meant to be a ton of press attending etc.

Dem Bruce Lee Styles | Homepage | 06.25.06 - 4:31 pm | #

That's exactly my worry. The MSM will report on that shit instead of thermate evidence by Steven Jones.

Talking about no boeing at the pentagon is sensible(the dimensions of the hole) but when you claim no boeing
hit the towers you ARE JUST ASKING FOR TROUBLE.

It's impossible to produce

It's impossible to produce any verifiable wreckage from the alleged Pentagon 757 crash there. It's impossible to produce a single photo or a videotape of that plane approaching or hitting the building. The scene was totally inconsistent with a 757 having crashed there. It's more than sensible to doubt the official story there. It holds no water whatsoever. It's as simple as that.

Bunrlingames "wife" is

Bunrlingames "wife" is clearly reading off of a script. we have no REAL, provable, in depth info on any of the victims families. just vague descriptions that make for a nice add on to the "official narrative". this should tell us all something. whenver there is a tragedy, the MSM is right there to exploit the people involved, and pry into their lives and expose any info. yet the vitctims families of the people on these flights recieve scant media attention. that speaks volumes to me.

we know next to nothing

we know next to nothing about these people. it reminds me of how the average american citizen couldnt tell you who the last man out of the towers was(William Rodriquez), simply because he talks about the explosions that he clearly saw and heard.this makes his "feel good story" of being the last man out of the towers that saved the lives of 15 people "untouchable". the victims families of 77 are "untouchable" in the same way.cant mess with the "official" story......

I don't like Smith's

I don't like Smith's obsession with Zionism but there may be an element of truth in what he is saying. There is certainly a Hollywood connection somewhere, though I think Spielberg is actually secretly on the side of the Truthers. Look at 'War of the Worlds', a terrifying vision of the ruthless imposition of total control of a population by an attack from within, operated by robots. ''They're already here'' ran the strap line, and they are indeed.