Btw. what is your assesment of Hopsicker?? A couple of months ago I just tried corraborate some of his primary research, which is nearly impossible unless it was partly covered by some media. I still don't know..

I know he gets slammed for refusing the WTC demolition etc. But I've heard lot of his interviews on the radio and the impression he is giving: I'm just a simple guy doing primary research in Venice, Fl. - who/what/where etc. seems to be legit.

He is right there is virtually zero primary research on 9/11. How many FOIAs has the movement filed so far, 2 or 3? That's pathetic..

I don't agree with him on the global picture but his findings on drugs and int. covert people in bed with highjackers is quite revealing..

US warship built from 9/11 steel:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5095506.stm

I find it suspect that out of all places the Reuters story ended up on Aljazeera.

IMO this was done to discredit the 9/11 Truth movement and brand it as being "anti-American" by the fake left/right.

I wouldn't be surprised if the MSM uses that article on Aljazeera to put out more hit pieces on 9/11 Truthers groups.

IMO While I totally support waking people up (and do so on a regular basis) I really feel like now might be the time for those who are awake to start making survival preps.

Extra food, good water filtration,and self-defense should be a high priority for everyone right now.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CDCC04E2-8DE8-4625-B380-DD74EC0F3...

WTF? Is this the acceptable story or something?

Press release from june 23 on Yahoo:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060623/nyf104.html?.v=28

Press release from june 23 on Yahoo:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/0606...f104.html? .v=28
anonymous | 06.25.06 - 5:49 pm | #
this ones a bit better.

bozo, please take no offense when i ask this,im geniunely interested. but whats the deal with the whole "bozo the clown" bit? you got a side job we should know about?

clowns are scary.

Listening to Pearl Jam's "Inside Job"and the theme song to "Everybodie's gotta learn sometime" ;a Beck song by the same name ,I've often wondered about their 911 status.
Course not everybody is familiar with them , so maybe Neil Young is the surprise speaker. That would be cool.

The Freedom Grill

While cooking in the backyard on this lovely June day I came up with an idea for an educational 9/11 awareness cartoon.

Man standing at the return counter holding a large smoldering box with this wording on the side, "The Freedom Grill- made from recycled World Trade Center Steel - Made in China- Now with Thermate starter!"

The man's caption, " I would like to return this grill. When I turned it on the grill lost 50% of it's strength and collapsed into a smoldering heap. Look it's still hot!"

http://www.doeblitz.net/ghg/grill8.jpg

Anybody ever see this?

How the Twin Towers Collapsed [official narrative] (Discovery, USA, 2005)

Here's what I don't understand... 1200 people got together to talk about how their Government was responsible for 9/11. An actor known worldwide participated in the event.

Where's the media?

Oh, that's right. They're controlled.

I mean, it's not like it was a Star Trek convention. This would be the equivalent of the colonies getting together to talk about the British.

I was there for Jimmy Walter's speach and for what it's worth: he was implying video fakery, not holograms. I think it's bunk either way but I think he would consider it an important distinction.

...and he said web fairy and the others have "social problems" which he does not endorse...

How was everything?

We HAVE to somehow BECOME the media! And FAST! And spread the word, quickly and widely! I too was at Chicago conference! How many of you have given free DVD's about 9-11 to strangers for viewing? I have given out over hundred now and still doing it! Please, do the same but make sure who you give them to,will actually watch them as them sitting idly on shelve is doing us no good!

What did charlie say in his speech?

If you can't burn some yourself, Dr. Tom will burn them for you and send you some to pass out! If you want his email and phone no. let me know on message board, OK? Does Somebigguy have an email? If so, please put on board, OK? I want to email him, directly, OK?

I figured Charlie Sheen would make an appearance! Would have liked to have been there and also met Ray McGovern too!

It's Webster Tarpley predicting another false flag attack soon too along with Ray McGovern! I know Ray is but isn't Webster Tarpley too? Does anyone have Webster's email address?

? Well that article from holland seems to be just a short version of that disgusting Reuters dissinfo smear..

Just look at the damage from this article, in the end it's all just about infowars.com, Walters and holograms or video fakery etc..

No Fetzer, no Prof. Jones, no McGovern or that Reagan Star Warse guy..

I only saw Charlie introduce Alex Jones yesterday. (If he spoke today, I missed it - I had to leave around 2:00PM.) His intro to Alex was short (10 minutes tops) and scripted (he was clearly reading his notes), and his demeanor was humble and gracious. He got a standing ovation and was very warmly recieved. I wish I could say there was more to but that was it for him.

Thank you Darryl , that is an important distinction.

? Well that article from holland seems to be just a short version of that disgusting Reuters dissinfo smear..

Just look at the damage from this article, in the end it's all just about infowars.com, Walters and holograms or video fakery etc..

Tono Stano | Homepage | 06.25.06 - 7:50 pm | #

Yeah it's almost an exact copy actually, but still it's exposure.
I got curious when Ruppert was bashing bom theories.

Btw. what is your assesment of Hopsicker?? A couple of months ago I just tried corraborate some of his primary research, which is nearly impossible unless it was partly covered by some media. I still don't know..

I know he gets slammed for refusing the WTC demolition etc. But I've heard lot of his interviews on the radio and the impression he is giving, I'm just a simple guy doing primary research in Venice, Fl. - who/what/where etc. seems to be legit.

He is right there is virtually zero primary research on 9/11. How many FOIAs has the movement filed, 2 or 3? That's pathetic..

I don't agree with him on the global picture but his findings on drugs and int. cover people in bad with highjackers is quite revealing..

I'm so jonesing for analysis of the conference even a few different hit-peices would be nice.;)

Btw. bart are you from Holland?
If is the case is there anybody from your friends who owns or rented that new DVD documentary "I shot JFK" ??

It's the know James Files story, the confessed grassy knoll shooter confession but now in reedited version.

The DVD is now in all NL webshops and reviews = but so far not torrents from this flic..

As an attendee and "believer", the conference was great. I got to hear all the heavyweights and be around 1199 other people tuned into the truth.

I don't know how the uninitiated would have felt... There was a lot of red-meat and "Hallelujas" that sometimes made it feel like a pep rally. Stephen Jones and Webster Tarpley's presentations were exceptions...

Union plans own health registry for officers who worked at World ...
San Diego Union Tribune, United States

1 hour ago

... largest police union is considering setting up a registry to track the health of officers who toiled amid the rubble of the World Trade Center following the ...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20060625-1340-attacks-health.html

Regarding the media...

http://www.911blogger.com/files/video/drg7232005.mov

Anyone know what Ray had to say???

Ooh Ooh... what did Ray say?

I'm a Ray groupie.

We were told by Alex on Saturday morning that Ray McGovern had canceled. I never saw him.

"We were told by Alex on Saturday morning that Ray McGovern had canceled. I never saw him."

Really? That sucks.

yeah, ...disappointment all around...

Did the 'surprise speaker' speak yet?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4987892.stm

PHASE OUT USING GOOGLE!!

http://www.exalead.com/search

is better(serendipity search mode), and under european privacy laws.

Big business HATES the EU making EQUALITY mandatory in search engines.

oh, but in Alex's new movie "Terrorstorm" which he showed on Saturday morning there is some classic Ray commentary, particularly when he talks about how the guys who eventually formed PNAC were called "the crazies" even back in the Reagan era...

9/11: Revealing The Truth, Reclaiming Our Future Press Conference - Video Inside

The "surprise speakers" were scheduled for around 5:45 today, I had to leave before that so: anyone else catch it?

darryl... you must have missed this...

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10961

It's based on part of what Ray said.

"darryl... you must have missed this..."

Are you referring to the quotes from the Terrorstorm movie that I mentioned above?

"Jesus, Just ignore the video fakery/holograms people, Most of them have been proven to be mentally unstable people."

Sorry, I don't come here much.

George W. , if you're out there , now is the time we need all that footage in the vault . Somethin to feed the next generation of 911 truthers . They're hungry as hell.

We need to organize and invade all politcal message boards, blogs, etc., with a specific attack plan focusing on issues that are the most obvious. Most importantly are the issues of wtc 7 and the NORAD stand down.

More specifically, we need to invade all medium's that contain large numbers of people, not just ones that focus on political issues. Every message board should be targeted in an organized and efficient manner. I think we should focus on people that have not made their minds up on this issues, or those not politically motivated enough to go to research and take an active stance themselves.

Some type of rotating system would probably work. Where all 9/11 truthers focus on specific areas of media influence incorporated into a national campaign.

There are millions of people who are primarily focused on sports and a host of other distractions that potentially have made no stance on this issue. Every person we can sway on the internet is a step in the right direction. And if every person that believes in the truth goes beyond this and informs the people who are involved in their everyday social circles then this movement could make huge strides imo.

911 truthers evolve with technology , faster I think , than neocons. Cold War Fossils.

I must admit I am a bit underwhelmed by the l.a. event. Guess I expected a bit much .

do you see the "video fakery" angle as the best way to get the word out to newcomers?

not really, it's too much of a science fiction like concept for the unitiated -
however, youngsters do relate to video images more than they do scientific data or listings of motives or financial trails or even warnings of a police state.
i believe that the videos of 175 are cgi insertions of a weird looking plane onto existing video of the towers and that the still images including the "pulitzer winning" one were taken from those cgi videos.
the only place i ever even bring that up is here, when i get sick of seeing the words shill and disinfo bandied about so non-chalantly. as if reynolds and walters et al were hurting the movement. you know, most of the no-plane guys feel that lots of YOU are the shills and agents - irony, gotta love it!
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Why people want to waist all that energy promoting the fake plane thing is beside me. There is way too much other stuff to address that will actually keep someone's attention. I wouldn't put anything past certain elements within the government but why the hell would they won't a fake plane hitting the 2nd Tower? That's just dumb in my opinion. Spend your time on more solid pieces than this stuff.
Joe | 06.25.06 - 11:11 pm | #

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I agree 100%

the mcmedia is more than just an obstacle to get around; they are every bit the enemy that the perps (whoever) are.
flyers - dvd's - freeway bloggers - word of mouth - those are the real alternative media
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James I understand where you're coming from , and you may be right . That being said , you'd agree there are more important , verifiable ,areas to explore? Particularily with newcomers to such a credible site such as this? We all have the same goals here (or should ).

write mr. walter and let him know how you feel. enough already.

Jon Gold's video of the meeting intro is very good.

Yes, that is a good video;

9/11: Revealing The Truth, Reclaiming Our Future Press Conference - Video Inside

@ Sue:

Webster Griffin Tarpleys e-mail is:

webstertarpley at yahoo.com

according to himself in his weekly radio show.

9/11: Revealing The Truth, Reclaiming Our Future Press Conference -

This video is from the Chicago event...just in case any one was confused.

My post about Zionism just got deleted? What do you people think about that.

Always remember that we need not construct an entirely consistent alternative theory to the official story. All we have to do is show that the official version cannot be true.

Another thing to remember is that I suspect that the people who perpetrated 9/11 used very advanced technology which was not publically known at that time. This is very good trick because it makes it had to construct an alternative theory of how it may happened because people wouldn't know how to explain the various effects (due to lack knowing what technology was involved).

It is only recently that the public is becoming aware that Voice-mimmicking technology and remote flying tech , has been around for years , everyone's seen a controlled demolition ,and these two words more than anything must put the fear of God into those crooks . So why was a company going by the name of 'controled demolition' allowed to cleanup afterwards?Perhaps as a sick , in yourface joke ?

Like

O-peration
I-raqi
L-iberation

?

IMO this was done to discredit the 9/11 Truth movement and brand it as being "anti-American" by the fake left/right.

I wouldn't be surprised if the MSM uses that article on Aljazeera to put out more hit pieces on 9/11 Truthers groups.

ksu_s13 | 06.26.06 - 5:15 am | #

exactly. i think the tactic will be to make it a "muslim or arab" issue. they will try to associate 9/11 truth with terrorism. isnt it obvious?

how do you stop people from pointing out the obvious criminal nature of the Israeli government? call them anti semitic. how do you stop people from questioning 9/11 and our governmetns involvement? associate it with anti-americanism and terrorism.the flag waving sheep(which sadly is most americans) will fall for it.

There was a great news today in the EU. Sweden affirmed its previsou order that Izraeli wines have to be labeled "made in occupied territories". Obviously, Izrael went ballistic but to no avail cha cha! Swedes are one of the least US/Izrael subjected countries..

We need ,ore this stuff..

it would give total exposure to the fact that the pnac did 911

if they did a big fake msm smear campaign on 911truth
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things are turning around---

congress is re-opening the okc bombing investigation

that is a huge victory that i personally think got accomplished by 911truth activists in part

you guys are great

congress is re-opening the okc bombing investigation

RANDKILLER999 | 06.26.06 - 6:09 pm | #
i dont know how i missed this one, but in what capacity? you got a link on that?

i cant give you any links but you could google it...

you know really,,,

thats kind of the first success on a govt level for this legal constitutional revolution against the rothschild mafia

Follow the money. Who installed the aesbestos?

"Air samples taken on October 2nd and December 25th one mile from the WTC site contained "startling" levels of sulfur, silicon, titanium, vandium and nickel. Much of these contaminants were found in very fine particles that could penetrate deep into lungs. Lead and mercury were also found in these samples, although at lower levels than the other contaminants."

I've shown Alex (11/24/01) and Steven, (just hours before the show) exactly how they had 'loaded' the towers. I can only do so much from here. PLEASE look closely at ALL of the construction filings on record, especially from 1987 through 1993! You've found ZERO on Building #7, {not that this is surprising, knowing how that deal went down.} I'm a pretty good corporate spy, but that particular site was unusually tight to penetrate... Ask photog. Bill Charles, he's the one that had the fist full of $100 bills!