Santa Cruz 9/11 Truth Network Presents DARK SECRETS: INSIDE THE BOHEMIAN GROVE
Somebigguy Tue, 06/27/2006 - 3:03pm
The Santa Cruz 9/11 Truth Network Invites you to see Alex Jones'
DARK SECRETS: INSIDE THE BOHEMIAN GROVE
Veterans Memorial Building
840 Front Street, Santa Cruz
Wednesday, June 28
7:30 PM
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I love Alex jones. But I
I love Alex jones. But I think when we start trying to "tie" other events (aka conspiracies) to ours...it dilutes our purpose, it makes it seem that just because we believe in 9/11 Truth, we believe that all "conspiracies" and thats how you get the UFO/Area 51 affiliation.
Although I think Bohemian Grove is interesting I dont think it has any real significance: Some Rich powerful guys having mock sacrifices and homosexual parties in a forrest...so what.
Off topic, but did anyone
Off topic, but did anyone see the coverage of construction workers protesting at Ground Zero? They want the insurance companies to release the last payments to Silverstein, who is enlisting the aid of Bloomberg and Pataki to pressure them.
I keep wondering if there isn't something going on behind the scenes. These articles are very dodgy about the rationale behind withholding payment. This latest article got "no comment" from the company rep.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/am-wtc0626-link,0,2768737.stor...
John Gravois, author of the
John Gravois, author of the article "Professors of Paranoia" on the Chronicle for Higher Education website was on the Boston's NPR affiliate today (Tuesday) on the noon show "Here and Now."
He pretended to be objective but made many jabs at 911 truthers.
You can listen to it here
http://www.here-now.org/shows/2006/06/20060627_5.asp
Although I think Bohemian
Although I think Bohemian Grove is interesting I dont think it has any real significance: Some Rich powerful guys having mock sacrifices and homosexual parties in a forrest...so what.
yizzo | 06.27.06 - 8:38 am | #
i disagree, whenever the elite meet in one place, you know its important.ever see the picture of Nixon and Reagan at the grove? that was before BOTh of them were president. that should tell you something.
"Although I think Bohemian
"Although I think Bohemian Grove is interesting I dont think it has any real significance: Some Rich powerful guys having mock sacrifices and homosexual parties in a forrest...so what."
It's one of those things that can draw people into the movement. I think that and Sibel Edmonds case should get more exposure because it's not directly about 9/11, but it all adds to the big picture.
i think sibel is directly
i think sibel is directly involved with 9/11 i believe she said "if people knew the truth about 9/11 there would be several people in the Govt being prosecuted"
and i do find that interesting that Reagan and Nixon were both there...as do i find that Skull and Bones have so many presidents..but that makes me think, how do they fix the primary's? and do the other "runners" concede willingly? or are they in it too?
Sibel is directly related to
Sibel is directly related to 9/11. At least as far as I can tell... she, at the very least, knows some of the names involved.
And maybe some of the
And maybe some of the financing behind 9/11.
and i do find that
and i do find that interesting that Reagan and Nixon were both there...as do i find that Skull and Bones have so many presidents..but that makes me think, how do they fix the primary's? and do the other "runners" concede willingly? or are they in it too?
yizzo | 06.27.06 - 9:08 am | #
yizzo, you dont think its that hard to steal elections do you? it was happening way before 2000.........
and besides, if your tapped
and besides, if your tapped by someone higher up and more powerful than you to run for office,that means you get big money support, and sadly, in politics that is the main thing you need to get elected.money and connections is how you win elections, and places like Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove and even Bilderberg play that role.
"Some Rich powerful guys
"Some Rich powerful guys having mock sacrifices and homosexual parties in a forrest...so what."
Well, when they actually pretend to be conservative christians in "real life", this just gets a little weird...
It was through Skull and
It was through Skull and Bones, and his fatherÂ’s connections, that George Bush Sr.
In 1963, weeks before the JFK assassination, Bush announced for the Senate. He won the Republican nomination for Senate, but lost the general election. That might have been the end of his political career. But in 1966, the darkest and most evil political figure in recent history (except for Bush), Richard Nixon intervened in Texas politics and helped secure Bush's nomination for a congressional district so solidly Republican he could not lose (according to that radical font of conspiratorial rantings, Microsoft Encarta). How would Nixon, the two time loser from California, have even known Bush, who by his own account had spent the previous fifteen years running around the Caribbean? How do they connect? And why should Nixon choose to help Bush in a fight with other Republicans for the party nomination? These are reasonable questions. Nixon was touring the country in 1966, attempting to secure the support of the right-wing power elites for his 1968 presidential campaign. That is, he was selling himself; promising to be the loyal servant of the darkest forces on the planet. So, the apparent connection between Bush and Nixon in 1963, is that Nixon wanted to prove the value of his services to these dark forces, and those dark forces wanted Bush promoted. So Nixon promoted Bush. But why? What had Bush had done to earn the commitment of those dark forces to his political ascension? It's a fair question. And it is a question that will come up over and over again. Because Bush AGAIN ran for Senate in 1970 and AGAIN he lost. And again Nixon resurrected him, this time making Bush United Nations ambassador, and then ambassador to China. With no credentials. With no proven abilities except as a loser. Why? Again, common sense demands an explanation of what Bush had done to earn the commitment of those dark forces to his political ascension., despite all the failings in his career. The obvious answer is that he played a sufficiently important role in the JFK assassination to win acceptance by a real dark power elite. This is supported, as we have seen, by a wealth of information.
What Would You Think If...
What Would You Think If...
You found out your neighbors... who happen to be church going Christians... they attend Church every Sunday, and always have Christmas lights in their windows every year... secretly partook in occult rituals that called for the worshipping of an owl deity, and the sacrificing of a person, in effigy?
connections....... http://www
connections.......
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/bush_killed_jfkjr.htm
not just a person, but a
not just a person, but a child. they have mock sacrifices of children, and by all accounts engage in homosexual behaviour(Nixon himself said the grove was "too faggy").
"Sibel is directly related
"Sibel is directly related to 9/11. At least as far as I can tell... she, at the very least, knows some of the names involved."
I guess what I mean is that the public doesn't think "9/11 conspiracy theory" the second Sibel Edmonds neame is mentioned. People's defenses go up instantly if they hear even the slightest hint of 9/11 conspiracy talk, but Sibel Edmonds name is nontoxic so to speak.
That MFer Larry
That MFer Larry Silverstein.
World Trade Center developer goes to court
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060627/ap_on_re_us/attacks_rebuilding
You know, any garden variety insurance defense attorney could blow this case wide open if they tried.
It depends on who you talk
It depends on who you talk to about her. When I mentioned her with Weldon, he said, "Yes, I know her", and then I proceeded to tell the audience about her, and he shut me up essentially.
and i wanna make it clear, i
and i wanna make it clear, i have NO problem with homosexuals,im for gay marriage, but i do have a problem with hypocrites that want to ban gay marriage despite the fact that they themselves engage in homosexual acts.
It depends on who you talk
It depends on who you talk to about her. When I mentioned her with Weldon, he said, "Yes, I know her", and then I proceeded to tell the audience about her, and he shut me up essentially.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 06.27.06 - 9:31 am | #
huh? where were you with Weldon and an audience?
Some people think Sibel
Some people think Sibel isn't that important because whistleblowers are retaliatory in nature, and you can't believe everything they say...
Well, that argument doesn't work with Sibel, and here's why.
Put aside what Sibel has said, and look at the reaction of our Government.
The Inspector General found that her firing was wrong.
Several different people in the FBI have corroborated her story.
Senators Chuck Grassley, and Patrick Leahy found what she said as credible enough to fight for her.
The Administration used the "State Secrets Privilege" to silence her. Something they've used time and time again to protect them against anything that might hurt the Administration.
They retroactively classified what Sibel Edmonds had to say.
I'm sure there's more that I'm not thinking of, but the point is... she's VERY credible as a whistleblower.
"huh? where were you with
"huh? where were you with Weldon and an audience?"
Representative Curt Weldon Takes Part In A Town Hall Meeting - Audio Inside
oh yeah, now i remember Jon.
oh yeah, now i remember Jon. good stuff.
the fact that the most
the fact that the most gagged woman in recent history shows up as a mere footnote in the 9/11 Commission Report speaks vloumes to me.
To Chris, Thanks for the
To Chris, Thanks for the great article. If JFKjr had run for president he would have won by a landslide. A landslide win cannot be fixed. It would be too obvious. As the article points out the power elite wanted nothing to do with "The Hunk". He was murdered, plain and simple. I might add RFKjr announced he will NOT seek public office. He has kids to raise. Obviously he knows he would be a dead man should he seek public office.
If I made the statement that
If I made the statement that the squatter in the White House should be hung for his 9/11 crimes and his body dragged through the streets ( with live coverage from all three networks) would the Secret Service confiscate all of my rope?
http://www.secretservice.gov/contact_usss.shtml
(Sibel Edmonds knows they only used images of jet aircraft on 9/11.)
"(Sibel Edmonds knows they
"(Sibel Edmonds knows they only used images of jet aircraft on 9/11.)"
BLATANT disinformation.
The Electoral College aides
The Electoral College aides the criminals in fixing elections by allowing them to focus all their deceit on just 1 or 2 key states, e.g., Florida & Ohio.
I like to imagine what this
I like to imagine what this world would be like today if JFK, Malcolm X, MLK, John Lennon, etc. even JFK's son stuck around to influence the changes necessary in allowing humanity to advance beyond the dark limitations currently being slammed onto our backs by the Bush Crime Family and the elitist foundations that support them.
When I really want to think about waking up to a world worth living in, I think about those men having remained alive to shape the future that we would be living today, not in fear and war, but in peace and harmony.
It's still possible.
The cancer has to be removed.
And the healing process will take some time, but there's still time to make the world right again.
there is a small 1 page
there is a small 1 page feature on bohemian grove/bilderberg etc. this month in GQ, and it says that Bin Laden claims that world leaders make desicions there(no surprise).does anyone have this qoute for me? i dont remember him saying this.
Neocons Accuse
Neocons Accuse “Liberal” New York Times of Treason
Kurt Nimmo | June 27 2006
Michelle Malkin, neocon blogger and concentration camp advocate, has posted a spate of converted WWII posters on her site, taking the New York Times to task for reporting the news, albeit a year late.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/270606Treason.htm
I might add RFKjr announced
I might add RFKjr announced he will NOT seek public office. He has kids to raise. Obviously he knows he would be a dead man should he seek public office.
Maddog | Homepage | 06.27.06 - 10:08 am | #
thats right, but look at him going hard after the election fraud now. hes getting together a legal team right now. he better watch his back.
By 10:05amCT CNN has now had
By 10:05amCT CNN has now had 3 separate stories about "building collapses" of one kind or another.(Missouri, Georgia, New York)
Jon, Are you still on for
Jon,
Are you still on for your June 28th meeting with Weldon? Are Prof. Jones and Dr. Bowman still participating?
"Jon, Are you still on for
"Jon,
Are you still on for your June 28th meeting with Weldon? Are Prof. Jones and Dr. Bowman still participating?"
I called yesterday to confirm, like they asked me to, and they said that the House was scheduling meetings this week, so my meeting might have been cancelled. They said they would let me know, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Weldon has turned into a scumbag anyway.
Weldon knows the score and
Weldon knows the score and likely pimped Able Danger to make Clinton look bad. That's when I think he learned that the whole 9/11 operation was way bigger than Able Danger.
Thanks Jon for the
Thanks Jon for the update.
Weldon has always been a scumbag, but thats no reason to continue pushing for an opportunity to confront him with the evidence and uncomfortable direct questions.
This especially true, if Weldon uses AbleDanger to avoid the real questions about 911 and use it as a key component of the new revised 'incompetant theory' of 911, when exposure of 911 gets too hot.
Well, Weldon has suddenly
Well, Weldon has suddenly taken on the Neocon agenda by stating WMD may still exist in Iraq, etc... and, he's more than happy to say the Democrats, and a 9/11 Commissioner from the Clinton regime is trying to take him out of office... again, focusing on the Clinton Administration, which was his original purpose. I have no doubt now that Rep. Weldon's purpose was to take the focus away from Bush, and put it towards Clinton.
" to not continue
" to not continue pushing'
(Dam it, they told these conferences would improve my spelling, grammer and proof reading of my blogging.)
Ruppert deserves a bad rap
Ruppert deserves a bad rap for bailing on 9/11 Truth and being an arrogant prick, but it's no good to see someone fighting the good fight get his stuff wrecked. The meth ring thing is bizarre. Stan Goff at FTW has done an awesome series absolutely destroying the official Pat Tillman story. I wonder if the powers that be had 'nuff or this was just some low-level vandalism.
http://www.mikeruppert.blogspot.com/
I don't think Able Danger is
I don't think Able Danger is "fake", but I think it's the one aspect of 9/11 that ties to Clinton in some way, and they're using it.
I'm still going to push to
I'm still going to push to meet with Weldon... just as I would continue to push to meet with any Representative I might have a chance of meeting.
I think my first question is
I think my first question is going to be, "I have given you evidence that the Bush Administration was complict in the attacks of 9/11. Why haven't you pursued it?"
Then I'm going to ask him if
Then I'm going to ask him if he's ever been to the Bohemian Grove to partake in the homosexual pool of politicians.
"The Bohemian Grove, which I
"The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time... It is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."
Richard Milhouse Nixon
Jon, is Weldon complaining
Jon, is Weldon complaining that Gorelick is trying to ruin him? If so, that is what is ironic about him looking into Able Danger. He thinks he can pin 9/11 on Clinton, when in reality the whole job includes the involvement of left coverup artists like Gorelick who can crush Weldon.
Weldon should heed these words:
"The entire system is corrupt. Those who participate in it rationalize— in order to protect their seat at a crap table— that when one player gets out of line the primary objective is to protect the crap game. (I thank Peter Dale Scott for this analogy). I can guarantee you that many members of Congress are aware of every detail you have documented, and much, much more. . . To impeach Bush et al on the grounds you have delineated would open a can of worms that would call into question the legitimacy of the entire government. That will never be permitted."
http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/unanswered_questions_911.html
Then I'm going to ask him if
Then I'm going to ask him if he's ever been to the Bohemian Grove to partake in the homosexual pool of politicians.
Jon Gold
I think you should start with that question Jon.......that should get things off to a wonderful start.............I love it.....glad your keeping that sense of humour (and your sanity) in check......
For the record: I don't think able Danger was fake either, I believe it was a patsy monitor as Tarpley suggests, but Weldon will use it for other purposes as you describe above.
I know you will continue to push, I just didn't want you to ease your efforts with Weldon just because he has clearly shown himself to be such a 'scumbag', recently.
He knows that if this Republican administration's complicity in 911 is exposed....it will be the death of the Republican party.......I think thats why 'some' Democrats are holding off for just the right time.
yizzo at 06.27.06 - 8:38 am,
yizzo at 06.27.06 - 8:38 am, you wrote:
""
I love Alex jones. But I think when we start trying to "tie" other events (aka conspiracies) to ours...it dilutes our purpose, it makes it seem that just because we believe in 9/11 Truth, we believe that all "conspiracies" and thats how you get the UFO/Area 51 affiliation.
Although I think Bohemian Grove is interesting I dont think it has any real significance: Some Rich powerful guys having mock sacrifices and homosexual parties in a forrest...so what.
""
That's like saying that the writings of Karl Marx have no relevancy to the actions of communists.
The ruling elite have an ideology and a religion, and it is an ideology and religion of power and death. One cannot understand their actions without understanding their motives, and in order to fully understand their motives, one has to come to terms with their obsession with dark occultism.
In the interest of advancing the above goal of understanding the philosophy and religion of the globalist ruling elite, I present the below documentation.
To begin with, see the below very important article series which contains extensive documentation on the child sex-slave and snuff-film rings run by the globalist elite:
"The Pedophocracy," Parts I through VI, by David McGowan, Center for an Informed America ( http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com ), August 2001:
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo1.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo2.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo3.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo4.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo5.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo6.html
Concerning the hidden video caught by journalist Alex Jones of a dark occultic ritual performed every year at Bohemian Grove, see:
http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html
See also the full video Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove by journalist and documentary film-maker Alex Jones, which you can view in full for free below:
Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove:
http://www.archive.org/details/DSIBG
Additionally, you can view clip excerpts Part 1 and Part 2 of Jon Ronson's documentary Secret Rulers of the World, which also documents Alex Jones' infiltration of Bohemian Grove, at the below link:
http://www.sacredcow.com/allnew/index_content.php?n=multimedia_video_alex
Below can be found audio and a transcript of ABC News' Monday, April 23, 2001 World News Tonight with anchor Peter Jennings program concerning nightvision video secretly captured on Saturday, April 14, 2001 by New York Observer reporter Ron Rosenbaum of an occultic ritual conducted by the Brotherhood of Death at Yale:
"April 23, 2001 ABC News Report on Hidden Video Captured of Skull & Bones Ritual," PsyOp911, October 4, 2005:
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/skull-and-bones-2001-04-23-abc-report....
Also revealing, on the Nixon tapes from May 13, 1971, Nixon says of Bohemian Grove:
""
"But it's not just the ratty part of town. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time--it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."
""
(From "All The Philosopher King's Men--President Richard Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and H. R. Haldeman," James Warren, Harper's Magazine, February 2000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/032604nixontape.html .)
Here's another interesting article on Bohemian Grove:
"Gay Porn Star Serves Moguls," New York Post, July 22, 2004:
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2004/220704gaypornstar.htm
Yet the Bush patriarchs just can't get enough of Bohemian Grove. Concerning Bush, Sr.'s connection with a "faggy goddamned thing" (to quote Nixon again) not just at Bohemian Grove, but in the White House, see the below Washington Times article:
"Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush: 'Call boys' took midnight tour of White House," Paul M. Rodriguez and George Archibald, Washington Times, June 29, 1989:
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/wtpage1smaller.gif
http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/WTpage1.gif
http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/WTpage2.gif
The below documentary, Conspiracy of Silence, was produced by Yorkshire Television (U.K.) under contract by the Discovery Channel. The documentary was scheduled to air nation-wide in the U.S. on the Discovery Channel on May 3, 1994. It was listed in the April 30th-May 6th edition of TV Guide and in newspapers for that day.
This documentary exposed a network of business leaders, Washington politicians and other high officials involved in a child sex-slave ring that flew children to Washington, D.C. and elsewhere in the U.S. for sex orgies. This documentary film turned out to be very presciently named, because close to the time before airing, various congressmen threatened the cable TV industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased for some half-million dollars by unnamed persons who ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of the rough-edited version of the film was furnished anonymously to attorney and former Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp, among others.
Former CIA Director William E. Colby is also interviewed on the documentary Conspiracy of Silence, wherein William E. Colby backs up the legitimacy of these charges and also talks about the real risks of assassination that John DeCamp faces for taking up this case (other investigators into the Franklin, Nebraska child sex-slave scandal were assassinated).
Below is an RM file (33.3 MB) of Conspiracy of Silence:
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence56k.rm
You can download this same video in the below higher resolution format. Windows media (39.6 MB):
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence2.wmv
Conspiracy of Silence doesn't attempt to go into the Satanic and human-sacrifice angle of the Franklin incident, although that is very much part of this case, as this case is directly connected to Bohemian Grove and other child sex-slave rings. For more on this aspect, see the below book by former State Senator John DeCamp:
The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska by John W. DeCamp (AWT, 2nd edition, December 1, 1996), ISBN: 0963215809:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0963215809/
One of the best introductions to the background and subsequent cover-up of the above film, Conspiracy of Silence, is from the below excerpts from the book The Franklin Cover-Up by former State Senator John DeCamp, wherein he also talks about his relationship to former CIA Director William E. Colby (who himself was assassinated, as the evidence demonstrates). Do a search for "Yorkshire" to go directly to the section concerning this film:
http://www.davidicke.net/tellthetruth/coverups/decamp.html
http://mysite.users2.50megs.com/coverups/decamp.html
One of the victims, Paul Bonacci, testified in court to being forced into depraved sexual acts with men and other boys, including snuff films made at Bohemian Grove, with U.S. Senior District Judge Warren K. Urbom presiding. Bonacci won the court case and was awarded one million dollars by Judge Urbom.
Below is the text of the ruling by Judge Warren K. Urbom mentioned above:
Paul A. Bonacci, Plaintiff vs Lawrence E. King, Defendant, 4:CV91-3037, Memorandum of Decision Filed February 22, 1999:
http://www.raven1.net/ra1.htm
Below you can read more on the above case. Scroll down to the section entitled "Snuff kiddie porn at Bohemian Grove," where you can read a transcript of an interview of former State Senator John DeCamp:
Bohemian Grove Dirt:
http://www.geocities.com/bohemian_grove_dirt/
Seven Retards In A
Seven Retards In A Warehouse
The latest terror cell to wage "ground war" on America
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 27 2006
Just when you thought the predictability of the latest triumph in the war on terror couldn't get any more ludicrous - you're reminded that the Neo-Cons like to keep the propaganda simple and straightforward, never deviating from well-honed tactics.
In Friday's article on the Sears Tower arrests I predicted that, "One of the repeating elements to emerge from every major terror sting or forged terror alert is the use of retarded individuals as patsies, informants and go-betweens."
"Don't be surprised to learn of a connection to a retarded individual over the next few days."
So it follows that yesterday it emerged from a New York Daily News report that the alleged ringleader of the plot Batiste "needs psychiatric help," according to his own mother.
The Daily Show's John Stewart classified the Miami terror cell that were about to "wage a ground war against America," according to Gonzales as "seven dipshits in a warehouse," following a farcical press conference in which Gonzeles was cornered into admitting that they had no links to any Al-Qaeda members and had no weapons or explosives to carry out any acts of terrorism.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/270606sevenretards.htm
I was reading Salon's piece
I was reading Salon's piece on Loose Change. The first paragraph states:
"According to Dylan Avery, a 22-year-old filmmaker in upstate New York, no terrorists hijacked United Airlines Flight 93 on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, and no passengers heroically revolted. The plane didn't even crash in that Shanksville, Penn., field, he says, but instead landed safely in Cleveland. And not only that. As Avery sees it, the true 9/11 attackers brought down the World Trade Center in a controlled demolition, most likely to get at $160 billion in gold bars he believes were buried under the towers. As for the attack on the Pentagon, Avery insists it was hit by a cruise missile, not a terrorist-commandeered Boeing 757."
Is this all true? Did Dylan state all of these things to Salon as fact?
I keep wondering if there
I keep wondering if there isn't something going on behind the scenes.
i keep wondering if there isn't something going on if front of our very eyes.
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it doesn't matter if dylan
it doesn't matter if dylan stated those things as facts or not. salon has attributed that statement to him so he might as well have.
__________--
In this statement: >...And
In this statement:
>...And not only that. As Avery sees >it,..
it becomes clear what problem they have with it: it's too big a fraud and a crime to accept that 'their' Bush would do this.
In history classes everybody was taught about the price of 'freedom' and true patriotism and the evil Nazis, the resistance, WWII and on and on...
Then when one day they would have to be the heros, the resistance, the revolutioners, they turn out cowards and let it happen.
It's a shame all these monuments exist as tourist attractions when their actual meaning has become null and void.
Jon Gold at 06.27.06 - 12:26
Jon Gold at 06.27.06 - 12:26 pm, Solon is going off of Loose Change 2nd Edition.
As far as the section you quoted, I would agree with everything in it except the WTC buildings weren't brought down to steal gold (rather, for the U.S. government to get more power and control); some plane was shot down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, even if it wasn't Flight 93; as well, it may well not have been a cruise missile that hit the Pentagon, but more probably something along the lines of an A3 Skywarrior.
Loose Change 2nd Edition makes the above point concerning the U.S. government using these attacks to get more power and control--it simply presents the gold as one layer of the icing on the cake, not the cake itself. Solon's statement concerning Flight 93 seems to be more or less in keeping with how the case was presented in Loose Change 2nd Edition. The last part concerning a cruise missile is wrong, as Loose Change 2nd Edition goes more in the direction of an A3 Skywarrior.
By the way, the first of the recent videos released by the U.S. Department of Defense shows a nose cone and cockpit that looks nothing like that of a Boeing 757. But the nose cone and cockpit of the object in the video looks very, very much (if not indeed exactly) like that of an A3 Skywarrior.
Excuse me, that should read
Excuse me, that should read Salon in the above.
A3 skywarrior photo compared
A3 skywarrior photo compared to still of video here:
http://www.911studies.com/911photostudies72.htm
The Ruppert/FTW reference
The Ruppert/FTW reference above was vague, story is,
Between the hours of 7:30 P.M. Sunday, June 25 and 7:30 A.M., Monday, June 26, the FTW offices were burglarized. Four interior doors were smashed with a sledgehammer. All seven FTW computers were transported to a central location in the building. Their covers were removed and they were also smashed with a sledgehammer. No other significant property was taken and there was no other damage to any other fixtures or furnishings.
http://mikeruppert.blogspot.com/2006/06/urgent-message-from-mike-ruppert...
Charlie Sheen introducing
Charlie Sheen introducing Alex Jones VIDEO here.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRW5gT0HHbA&search=charlie%20sheen
thanks joe! the guy who
thanks joe!
the guy who posted that also has a couple pics, and said that ron jeremy even showed up! :)
http://www.brainphreak.net/theblackpacket/main.html
Itsaputon, the below is a
Itsaputon, the below is a better image comparison between what is in the recently released first Pentagon video, an A3 Skywarrior, and a Boeing 757:
http://www.migandi.org.uk/news/pictures/pentagon_proof.jpg
Jon- I don't think you
Jon-
I don't think you should give up on Curt Weldon yet. His misguided comment that there "may" still be WMDs in Iraq is hard to argue with because it is impossible to prove a negative. He may be saying this just to provide himself with a little inexpensive cover.
On Clinton, Weldon probably does hope an investigation will shift some blame on to the ex-Pres. But we don't know his motives so it does no good to accuse him of that.
IMHO the proper stance to take in regard to Weldon is to encourage him to pursue the leads presented by the Able Danger story. He has said he will not stop his investigation until he gets to the bottom of it, and we must hold him to that.
I wish there were more members of Congress who had shown the same persistence in investigating 9/11
related material.
Until and unless we have evidence that he is deliberately taking a dive
I think he deserves our continued support and encouragement.
And I don't think he deserves to be called a "scumbag".
I saw Weldon on the McSqueel
I saw Weldon on the McSqueel Noise Hour last night. He was ranting about the NYTimes being guilty of Treason.
He's on the wrong team in my humble opinion and would probably be helped by one of the seratonin uptake inhibitors (zoloft).
I wanted to slap the fool last night. Another asshole in a three piece suit.
Curt Weldon, if you can hear me, read the god damn constitution and take your meds!
I was reading Salon's piece
Jon, this looks like a blatant case of misleading paraphrashing to me. Use your noggin.
misleading paraphrasing^
misleading paraphrasing^
Speaking of the dark
Speaking of the dark side...
Today I received a subscription offer for The New
Yorker. Instead of inserting their offer form I sent
them a note which read, "When you print 9/11 truth I
will buy your publication." and inserted this pamphlet
into their postage paid envelope:
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Here is a short list of the Jewish-Americans who
support promoting the lies of 9/11.
MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News &
World Report and chair of the Conference of Presidents
of Major Jewish American Organizations, one of the
largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.
LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television,
great-nephew of David Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with
Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on Public
Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed
by Clinton.
JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of
AOL-Time-Warner
NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News
JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming,
NBC
DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News
SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media
giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and
MTVs all over the world, Blockbuster video rentals and
Black Entertainment TV.
MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol
Cities, ABC.
RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London
Times, News of the World (Jewish mother)
MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS
DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS
JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS
DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and
Planning, CBS
SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment
LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment
BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.
SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications
and Chairman of Paramount Pictures'
Motion Picture Group.
HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.
BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.
PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's
News. Corp., owner of Fox TV
MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic,
which openly identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore
credits Marty with being his "mentor."
ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times,
the Boston Globe and other publications.
WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the
Washington Post. Honored by Honest
Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel media."
RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington
Post
JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe
NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular
columnist for USA Today, news analyst for CBS, and
co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the Advisory Committee
on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers,
appointed by Clinton.
ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.
STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as
an expert on domestic terrorism.
DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the
New Times network of "alternative weeklies."
DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media
hedge fund
KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban
Center for Middle East Policy, writes op-eds in NY
Times, New Yorker
BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner
of Universal Entertainment
KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch
RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent
agency, which represents 600 news personalities such
as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer and Bill O'Reilly.
TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.
MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL
WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div.
of AOL- TimeWarner
JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment
JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2
SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment
GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment
STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks
LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment
JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment
MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good
Morning Miami"
DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good
Morning Miami"
HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America
AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures
JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American
operations
ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel
Communications
BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment
IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications
WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN's Late Edition
LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live
TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline
ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter
PAULA ZAHN, CNN Host
MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes
BARBARA WALTERS, Host, ABC's 20-20
MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review
BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week
DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and
Washington Post, son of CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former
owner of the Washington Post
HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek
WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec.
Director Project for a New American Century (PNAC)
RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco
Chronicle
PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco
Chronicle
RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities,
San Francisco)
JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities,
San Francisco)
MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol
Cities, San Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets
MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations
DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated
from LA. Has Israeli flag on his home page.
BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.
ANDREW LACK, president of NBC
DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins
DAVID REZNIK, Editor, The New Yorker
NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York
HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New
Yorker
SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse
Publications, includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the
Conde Nast magazine group, includes The New Yorker;
Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement; American City
Business Journals, business newspapers published in
more than 30 major cities in America; and interests in
cable television programming and cable systems serving
1 million homes.
DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors,
Associated Press.
PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's
RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable
TV.
LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group
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Cheap disinfo tactic: take
Cheap disinfo tactic: take theories out of context, omit all of the accompanying facts & explanation, and make it all sound as bizarre as possible.
Example: "As Avery sees it, the true 9/11 attackers brought down the World Trade Center in a controlled demolition, most likely to get at $160 billion in gold bars he believes were buried under the towers."
Only to get at the gold bars he believes were under the WTC? Not for maximum shock & awe & to further destroy the crime scene evidence?
Was there also gold under WTC-7? Didn't Silverstein say he & the fire chief decided to "pull-it."
The true attackers? Avery states it was our own gov't & gives reason why, but this is left out too.
etc.
Amanda, stop posting this
Amanda, stop posting this bullshit here.
You need not identify
You need not identify everyone you think is involved in 9/11 according to race/religion. There are plenty of Baptists, Methodists, & other Christians involved, you stupid asswipe.
Thank you, Mr. Redford, for
Thank you, Mr. Redford, for your "bohemian rhapsody". I've tucked it away for later review knowing it's not likely to be aired on the Larry King show on CNN tonight.
>Cheap disinfo tactic: take
>Cheap disinfo tactic: take theories >out of context,
They're doing their best to ridicule it. A gatekeeping effort to tell everybody the 20mln views of LC were unjustified.
If Bushco. were ridiculed in the same way, we'd see e.g. the 'Sears tower plot' ridiculed, or the need to spy on bank transactions: Yes, sure, George, it's all there to protect us, we submit our whole life's worth to you just not to die at the hands of the terrorists.
Here is a short list of the
Here is a short list of the Jewish-Americans who
support promoting the lies of 9/11...
AmandaReconwith | 06.27.06 - 2:06 pm | #
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OK Amanda. Now, where is your list of the NON-Jewish-Americans who support promoting the lies of 9/11... Should be a long list too, hey!
You moron. Stop your BS.
June 27, 2006 -- Republican
June 27, 2006 -- Republican Rep. Peter King (NY), the chairman of the House of Representatives Homeland Security Committee, has called for the U.S. Attorney General to prosecute The New York Times under the Espionage Act for revealing the existence of a secret program (waynemadsenreport.com)
Is the NY Times now tired enough of Bush, tired enough of the phony War On Terror, to print some 9/11 truth?? How much more does it take?
What's your point ,
What's your point , "amanda"?
Only the joos were involved.
Only the joos were involved. Didn't you know?
Ot , but does anyone know
Ot , but does anyone know when fetzer talks today? I wouldn't miss it for anything.
I know Jon ,I'm just sick of
I know Jon ,I'm just sick of "her" cryptic "no-pane ,joos did it? You decide" spiel .At least have the courage to openly state what you mean , if you are a "man to reckon with".
Greg> Hehe it's the other
Greg> Hehe it's the other way around. Now, busheviks will start to engage in the serious stuff. Open media censorship and threats, filling up detention centers with 9/11 and other liberal leaning kooks..
General public will play it low key and obey the masters rule, scared from further economic decline etc..
Happened throughout the history everywhere now it's time for americans to enjoy some nice full scale totalitarian regime on their own..
its those damn human beings
its those damn human beings that are the problem!
Tono , sad but true. Perhaps
Tono , sad but true. Perhaps this open fascism is the only thing that can get people angry enough to do something. A draft would workjust as well.
see al gore's movie or go to
see al gore's movie or go to cnn.com and see the washington d.c. area under water right now.
and remember, we aren't 9 billion animals spewing foul waste out of our arses, we are beams of beautiful light sent by god to tend his garden.
fucked that up
next planet please
oh i'm a lumberjack and i'm ok . . .
without a planet to live on,
without a planet to live on, even totalitarian rulers are going to have a rough time.
> Open media censorship and
> Open media censorship and threats, >filling up detention centers
And all that because of the Al-Qaeda threat, never proven to exist, only some badly staged videos.
the "9/11 card" is Bush's bonanza: he can use it over and over and over and over...
greg> it's not because of
greg> it's not because of false flag on 9/11 it's because peak energy, balooning US debt, over populated planet, horny muslim population consisting 70% of arab pop with depleted oil wells, shift of global balance of power to chindia etc..
Let me address the topic at
Let me address the topic at hand. At the 9/11 Truth conference, I spoke to several former FBI agents who confirmed a lot of what people call the "John Decamp/Ted Gundersen/Indira Singh" allegations.
The fact is the occult(and Im not talking wicca, paganism, new age, etc)
is the religion of these guys. There's no two ways about it. People can talk about "oh, those illuminati conspiracy theories"...well you can call it whatever you want. I was talking to Anthony Hilder, whose been giving speaches on the nexus of politicians and this stuff since the 60's, and he was telling me a lot of stuff that makes so much sense in a perspective.
You look at Hitler, who was obsessed with this sort of secret society occult stuff. You look at leaders throughout history, and there's just too many patterns.
So why is this even worth mentioning on a 9/11 truth forum, when
1) people already think were nuts
2) people argue freedom of religion
It's simple. Because they claim to be Christian, yet they go out of their way to show they are the most evil scum on the planet. It's about power with these guys, and it cannot be a coincidence that they chose 9-11. If Washington DC is laid out in a pentagram, if The Pentagon itself is the middle of a pentagram and began construction of 9/11, and everything seems to revolve around geometry and numbers...why does it seem crazy that
they wouldnt relish in things like Bohemian Grove, and other Eyes Wide Shut like things.
Also, the Franklin coverup has to be one of the most sickest and upsetting pre 9/11 Washington coverups I've ever researchd. It's clear that from the Bay of Pigs til now with Franklin coverup in between, Bush Sr stands as one of th eleading figures of darkness.
The underported US foreign
The underported US foreign policy #1 is to keep Chindia politically divided, once they unite on the majority of econ./political fronts the game for the US is over..
Indira Singh> could you pls.
Indira Singh> could you pls. elaborate on her. I had the P-tech story always high on my list of genuine 9/11 stories.. Especially since it has been corroborate by previous BCCI in 80s and following investigations aka busted P-tech offices by FBI in 2002..
Tono, basically she was a
Tono, basically she was a software security risk guru working as an independent contractor for JP Morgan. After 9/11, she was told by JP Morgan to work on a project with PTech. First, they started acting weird and asking for a lot of stuff that would not be proper. She got curious, did some investigation, and soon learned that they directly fund terror, likely had a hand in 9/11, and have installed software throughout the government and big corporations. When she tried to report all of this, some people were cool, but she got ignored/threatened the higher up she went.
http://reprehensor.gnn.tv/blogs/11484/Indira_Singh_Ground_Zero_911_Bluep...
Coughlin was shaken. He sent her to William Moran, the General Auditor, who refused to meet with her until she had been debriefed by his security people. "They treated me like I was crazy, like I was the terrorist." And when the meeting finally happened, it was an Orwellian horror show. He asked where she had gotten her information, and as she named her individual sources Moran answered each name the same way, over and over: "That person should be killed... that person should be killedÂ… that person should be killed."
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012005_ptech_pt1.shtml
Thanks I know the story I
Thanks I know the story I was curious if there are new info or some problems with her story..
You're welcome, Mssr. Jouet
You're welcome, Mssr. Jouet (Magmak1).
Weldon is a bastard, he will
Weldon is a bastard, he will only go in circles.
Notice all the rats jumping
Notice all the rats jumping ship lately ?Sudden iexplicable retirements ,the price of gold and Mr.Buffet's sudden "philanthropy"?
"Exit-strategy" the new meme. Not only for Iraq , but from a sinking America.
Please boot
Please boot AmandaReconwith's 6/27 2:06pm comment this forum. We 911 Truthers do not need posts like that which trying to divide this movement by focusing blame on specific categories of the population, most of whom are innocent. Comments like that are extremely inappropriate.
LOL! Why is it the no
LOL! Why is it the no planers at the WTC people also focus on "the Jews" and ALSO attack the leaders in the 9/11 truth movement? Funny stuff.
#1 reason why "no plane" is a lie?
We can CLEARLY fucking see the plane cutout(unlike the pentagon i might add)
on both towers.
Now speaking of pentagon, thoughts
on the idea that it was a small older fighter jet, with a few planted aluminum "AA" letters? Im open to that now.
We can CLEARLY fucking see
We can CLEARLY fucking see the plane cutout(unlike the pentagon i might add)
on both towers.
pockybot,
here is that analysis done on the FEMA and NIST wireframe plane diagrams overlaying impact holes on the towers, I referenced in another thread:
http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2006/04/wings-and-south-tower-entry-hole.html
http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2006/05/it-fits-not.html
Anyone else find it strange that a Boeing 757/767 would leave a 'plane cutout' after impacting a steel building, but birds routinely impact and damage wings of 757/767s in midflight?
Boeing 767 jet lands safely in northern Japan after birds damage its wing
A Boeing 767 jet landed safely in northern Japan after what appeared to be several large birds damaged its wing, a local airliner said Tuesday ... A hole measuring about 30 centimeters (12 inches) across was found on the aircraft's right wing, together with feathers and blood, Bandaira said. The wing had several dents and scrapes, he said.
Any thoughts?
Oh No the BIRDS , the BIRDS!
Oh No the BIRDS , the BIRDS!
"Any thoughts? shep |
"Any thoughts?
shep | 06.27.06 - 5:01 pm |"
Sure! It's called physics.
M = FA (Mass = Force * Acceleration)
It is not unreasonable to believe that the plane could leave an outline with the force, mass, and acceleration that the plane had.
Simple math.
shep, enough with your junk
shep, enough with your junk science already. Jets were going 500 mph, they crashed through frame of buildings, buildings got smahed & planes got smashed, problem solved, case closed.
New question, how did they DNA "passengers" at WTC & Pentagon???
Now speaking of pentagon,
Now speaking of pentagon, thoughts
on the idea that it was a small older fighter jet, with a few planted aluminum "AA" letters? Im open to that now.
pockybot | 06.27.06 - 4:45 pm | #
what changed your mind?
I'll vote for it being
I'll vote for it being anything OTHER than AA77 at the Pentagon, even a painted-up missile or drone, as per Operation Northwoods intended 40 years ago.
im kind of agnostic on the
im kind of agnostic on the Pentagon, but if i had to choose 1 scenario, i would say it was a smaller military type plane(possibly an A3?) painted with AA colors(at 500 MPH,its no surprise some people claim to have seen Flight 77 while some claim to have seen a MUCH smaller plane) flown remotely into the Pentagon. this would explain why it wasnt shot down, because it registered as "friendly" on the radar.
I've always beleived Colonel
I've always beleived Colonel De Grand Pres' contention that it was a drone painted up like AA , and that the real flight was shot down by a pilot he knows personally . Regardless , My focus however remains building7 and independent scientific study such as Steven Jones'.It's been known here for years that trojan horses or honeypots would be built up to later discredit us all. We keep it simple and even smear tactics like this will backfire , drawing more attention to our legitimate claims. No offense to anyone's pet theory intended .
I just have two words to say
I just have two words to say here:
David Icke
I just have two words to say
I just have two words to say here:
David Icke
cheryl | 06.27.06 - 7:12 pm | #
what about him? hes batshit crazy........
I'm still going to push to
I'm still going to push to meet with Weldon... just as I would continue to push to meet with any Representative I might have a chance of meeting.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 06.27.06 - 11:39 am | #
Jon, I sent this guy campaign money based on your recomendation weeks back. You might use that for leverage when you meet with him. I told him that I wanted him to continue to vigorously pursue research into crimes committed on 9/11 by our govt.
Shep, regarding your bird
Shep, regarding your bird analogy, here's my 2 cents. When a plane hits a bird, the plane is damage accordingly with what it hits, AND the bird is damage as well. :)
At the WTC, the planes are damage accordingly with what they hit and the building is damage as well. Nobody here is an expert in jetliner smashing in this particular kind of structure. So I think that debating on the size of the holes and what column is totally or partially broken is just a lost of time. First, let's put our energy in having a new really independant and thorough investigation and then, we'll prove it's an inside job, who are responsible for it and what really happened that day. Peace.
To Chris: What changed my
To Chris: What changed my mind? I looked at all the evidence. I wanted to believe al Qaeda was somehow willing participants. That they let it happen.
But it baffles the mind...you CANT LET something happen, because it gets out of control.
I want to ask a respectful no plane theory people a question:
You swear you believe in this theory, and arent doing this just to push a wacky theory to rock the boat?
I go by sincerity. If you truly believe this, and ARENT doing this just to fuck with people than ok.
Ive seen evidence of part of the 767/757 whatever on the streets, pulled from the wreckage, an adjacent rooftop.
And Chris, I now believe it was a remote control plane by looking at all the evidence. It had to be. If Im an islamic hijacker, how do I not accidentally hit the same tower twice?
And since its 100% proven it was explosives, how do I not accidentally hit the explosives? Some say it was the real plane with remote control...I dont think so. All four planes go off the radar.
Im now going with the small
Im now going with the small millitary jet painted as the real flight scenario outfitted with remote control. It fits in with everything, everything. The eye witnesses, the enhanced footage Ive even done myself(it shows a small fighter jet unmistakably), everything. Even the "i thought it was a millitary jet, one of ours" flight controller comment.
People need to stop this "it was a missle". Its not a missle. A missle might have been fired, but it was not a missle that ultimately struck it.
I dont think all the parts were planted, I just think its consisten with a small jet. The one planted piece may be that one pristine crumpled "C" aluminum.
well damn pocky, ive been
well damn pocky, ive been trying to tell you it was a military plane for months! haha, just kidding. but seriously, i think a missile was involved for sure, look at the perfect 18 foot circle. it was a small military plane that fired a missile right before it hit in my humble opinion.
Pockybot, What do you think
Pockybot,
What do you think of Jim Hoffmans analysis of some of the Pentagon aircraft parts photo's? Especially the rivet paterns compared to a 757?
I posted a thread about the
I posted a thread about the Skywarrior theory on Loose Change Forum when the joke videos came out in May:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4728&hl=
as well as on YBBS:
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=60146#post60146
How did we miss out on such an obvious 'own goal' ?
We've got all the evidence we need on this and CD. All we lack is the nerve to say it loud and clear.
SHOW US THE 757
EXPLAIN THE EXPLOSIONS
Forget all the irrelevant no-plane surmise.
Forget the anti-semitic hate speak.
Play to our strengths.
It's that simple.
James Redford | Homepage |
James Redford | Homepage | 06.27.06 - 12:08 pm | #
James, that was a mind-boggling post you made above. I had to read just the post itself a few times to digest it, let alone going to all the links & downloading.
It truly does seems that we are being governed by out-of-control lunatics!!!
Please reiterate parts of your above post in the future, as it may be too much, all at one time, for many of us to handle/remember.
It's simple. Because they
It's simple. Because they claim to be Christian, yet they go out of their way to show they are the most evil scum on the planet. It's about power with these guys, and it cannot be a coincidence that they chose 9-11. If
pockybot | 06.27.06 - 3:13 pm | #
9/11/2001 is supposedly the beginning of the new millenium in some kind of Egyptian Calendar or something like that. I don't know much about it, maybe someone else here does.
To Local County Sheriff:
To Local County Sheriff: Please Arrest them all. You are in control of the destiny of the USA.