9/11 story -- fiction or truth?

9/11 story -- fiction or truth?

Former CIA official may know more than he lets on.

Robert Baer's audacious first novel is going to be controversial because of both who he is and what he says. He retired after 20 years with the CIA and wrote a memoir, See No Evil, a memoir that inspired the murky Middle East spy film Syriana. In Blow the House Down, Baer gives us a fictional version of the 9/11 attacks, suggesting that high-level CIA officials could have stopped the terrorists but had other priorities. It's fiction, of course, but in an interview with journalist Seymour Hersh that the publisher sent along with the novel, Baer says: "It's like Primary Colors. There's a lot more truth in this book than is apparent."

Continued at link. (Maybe John Loftus got Baer thinking when he enlightened him about the Muslim Brotherhood, and who its sponsors are.)

We need more whistleblowers

We need more whistleblowers - about an event as big as this, how come no one that knows stuff is putting his country above himself and gives us a real clue of what exactly happened. FAA for example.
What did the Neocons offer them for their silence? 72 virgins?

Someday I would like to see

Someday I would like to see a thread that lists ALL of the known SUSPECTS and their direct connections to the crime. Perhaps this book offers many clues, but, after my having witnessed nothing more than a continual money-scam, since Bush took office, why should we buy or subscribe to anything?

Our country presumes it can sail-along without the rule of Law! We are left both spiritually and morally bereft. I would like to know exactly who did it... It's the 4th of July. Has anyone here gotten word of our so-called 'independence?'

Thanks 9-11 Blogger and

Thanks 9-11 Blogger and reprehensor
Job well done!
peace,pw

And remember that Prescott

And remember that Prescott Bush was laundering Nazi assets as late as 1951.

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalog...

Norge Le Monde

Norge Le Monde translated:
http://www.gnn.tv/B16458

Why do you think Cheney went

Why do you think Cheney went to Egypt recently? Remember there are TWO Popes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Christianity

A day without spreading 9/11 Truth is like a day without sunshine.

Yesterday I was busy circulating printed copies of this news report in my community.

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/printer_22290.shtml

I would like to thank my local police department for guarding the entrance to the housing development in which I live.

Here is the live ABC 7 broadcast where they cover up the fireball BEFORE the image of the plane strikes.

http://thewebfairy.com/911/haarp/reporter.didnt.see.plane.htm

The reporter only saw the explosion. The people in the studio saw the image of the plane.

And here is what they covered up. The fireball starts BEFORE the image of the plane strikes. http://thewebfairy.com/911/krash/

oh god, please dont let Baer

oh god, please dont let Baer be the guy who "breaks" 9/11 truth in the mainstream. Iran, here we come......

NEW YORK (AP) -- A CIA unit

NEW YORK (AP) -- A CIA unit that had hunted for Osama bin Laden and his top deputies for a decade has been disbanded, according to a published report.
Citing unnamed intelligence officials, The New York Times reported Tuesday that the unit, known as "Alec Station," was shut down late last year.

Osama search unit shut down last year??? What a f*cking joke on us!!! They don't even feel a need to keep up the false pretense that they were actually looking for him: http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/04/cia.binladen.ap/index.html

I've heard that Jones has

I've heard that Jones has "preliminary" results indicating thermate residues in WTC steel, and that these findings have been corroborated by two universities.

Could you give me a link? I didn't find these results in his well-known article. And what universities have corroborated the results?

Thanks.

This is off topic but quite

This is off topic but quite funny. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869183917758574879 Bush gets roasted by Colbert.

A little 9/11 truth creeps

A little 9/11 truth creeps in "I am Angry" by Susan Fassanella

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/fassanella1.html

"No inquiry into 7/7

"No inquiry into 7/7 bombings, says Blair"

"Each and every one of these stories is wrong and false," he said.

Well I guess we must then just take Mr Blair's word for it, as there will be no independent inquiry to prove it.

"I of course obsess over

"I of course obsess over this tragedy. Its beyond me how so many of our fellow citizens seem so unconcerned about it impact, past, present and future."

I'm pissed as hell too! The majority of people either don't give a damn, or just flat out refuse to believe or even listen.

My brother told me this past weekend, "I wouldn't worry about it, because there's nothing you can do". Recently my stepmother even told me to "settle down and enjoy life".

Well, this is the attitude that really pisses me off. It is this type of thinking that got us into this mess, and it is this type of thinking that will only allow things to escalate. Power is not taken, it's given!

Anyway, my response to these people is that they should not underestimate the power of truth in this wired world. For truth is revolutionary and revolutions bring change.

goddamn pocky, it must be

goddamn pocky, it must be hard to be a republican in this day and age.

THESE are the extremists in

THESE are the extremists in the left I talk about when I feel shamed to vote left.
pockybot | 07.04.06 - 11:38 pm | #
waaaa,waaaa, so vote republican like we know you want to. thread after thread its pocky saying "its the lefts fault, its the lefts fault!!".

Palast bashers? He's been

Palast bashers? He's been one of the few mainstream jorunalists exposing 9/11.
But yeah, I have no love lost for the leftgatekeepers.

Btw, Robert Baer on Thom Hartmann said the evidenc epoints toward an inside job...but then hes pushing Iran...this guy is schizoid.
pockybot | 07.05.06 - 12:37 am | #
no,sorry, Palast believes fully in the 19 hijakcers bin laden fairy tale. im looking at his book as we speak, and he is not exposing 9/11 for shit.

http://www.knowordie.co.uk/WT

http://www.knowordie.co.uk/WTC7.avi

That video should be distributed as widely as possible... Only someone in complete denial cannot at least start suspecting that it was brought down in controlled demolition.

African American, show him

African American,

show him this (perhaps not telling first that it is one of the WTC buildings collapsing):

http://www.knowordie.co.uk/WTC7.avi

I should probably go get

I should probably go get some sleep.

My father-in-law is visiting

My father-in-law is visiting from the midwest. I asked him if he thought 911 was an inside job.

His response was no, I think GWB is incompetent. I asked him how many tall buildings collapsed on 9.11, his response was "four".

He is a smart, smart man. Just terribly uninformed on 9/11, as is most of the country.

He is a Vietnam vet who can take about a 66 mustang and put it back together blindfolded.

The most interesting aspect of our conversation was how uninterested he seemed in learning the true facts.

I of course obsess over this tragedy. Its beyond me how so many of our fellow citizens seem so unconcerned about it impact, past, present and future.

Just sharing thoughts along the road to truth.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/05/nterr05....

I would have written to the editors, but I didn't find any email addresses on the Contacts page!

And now... Bloody Sunday:

And now...

Bloody Sunday: Full inquiry, cost £400m. July 7 bombs: No inquiry, 'too expensive'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/05/nterr05....

If Bush wins Mexico, plan on

If Bush wins Mexico, plan on Nuclear war and quit kidding yourselves about ANY political options besides outright anarchy. Today we should hear the general 'results' of the Election, but will we? For the absentee votes to be counted, (by ChoicePoint,) that will take another week. (Oh really?) You say Blair is in on this too? IF we allow any more Bechtel-built Nukes,"We deserve what's coming," -to quote a phrase.

Let's see. 33,k auto workers are being laid-off in the next three months, while only 22% of the dams in the US are generating electricity...
..."Nuclear power will, in fact, lower your monthly bills by as much as 70%!"

Can I interest your municipality in "advertising-free" cable channels?

Kurt Nimmo is

Kurt Nimmo is no-plane-at-the-Pentagon, fyi

Palast bashers? He's been

Palast bashers? He's been one of the few mainstream jorunalists exposing 9/11.
But yeah, I have no love lost for the leftgatekeepers.

Btw, Robert Baer on Thom Hartmann said the evidenc epoints toward an inside job...but then hes pushing Iran...this guy is schizoid.

Terrence you never replied

Terrence you never replied to my comment about viewing "The Fairy Tale From Hell".

Please do so.

all

all chomsky,goodman,palast,churchill bashers please form a line at the end of the line at the end of the line.

they're doing what they think is correct and honestly we really don't need them.

i want the fetzer interview

i want the fetzer interview - anybody got it?

caught the end of fetzer's

caught the end of fetzer's interview - he sounded great - great to hear jim fetzer speak the truth gospel on a clear channel radio station. i changed my mind, there is a god.

Fetzer's on the radio right

Fetzer's on the radio right now
http://www.700wlw.com/pages/streaming.html

Terrence cracks me up.

Terrence cracks me up. According to these 9/11 Truth bashers, who Im sure agree with Ann Coulter that the 9/11 widows are "godless whores", they probably think Iraq has WMD's and ties to 9/11 somewhere. To them, Fox news and the mainstream media is the word of gospel, never questioning anything, and attacking anyone who dares speak up. But luckily millions of people ARE Waking up. I can't tell ya guys how many great comments I got on my 9/11 shirt from being in San Francisco yesterday. The left is slowly waking up, it's just taking time.

And fuck Chomsky...he can go apologize for Holocaust deniers to make some more money for all I care. Saying 9/11 doesnt happen...like that Ward Churchill fuck who says the people in the WTC deserved to die. THESE are the extremists in the left I talk about when I feel shamed to vote left.

well im gone too, but FYI,

well im gone too, but FYI, Flight 93 bullshit is on the History Channel right now.

Conspiracy Smasher

Conspiracy Smasher said...
""Stay tuned" said Gold, "America can count on truthers to get it wrong, er, right!"

this right here. worst attempt at comedy ever. wow."

You're right, it was weak. I've just changed it to reflect more accuracy.

thats good stuff Terrence. really.

i think its pretty cool of

i think its pretty cool of you to admit how bad your attempt at comedy was though Terrence. that was really dreadful. like a 12 year old trying to be funny, its just annoying and childish.

Charlie Sheen joke. i cant

Charlie Sheen joke. i cant tell you how original that is. really. seriously.

"Sorry... but I like making

"Sorry... but I like making them look like fools. It makes me feel good."

You must have very low self esteem to get gratification from something said on a blog. Perhaps you need to get a life outside this place? Just a suggestion.
Terrence | Homepage | 07.04.06 - 10:29 pm | #
whos sadder? the guy that does something constructive and important to many people, or the guy that obbsesses over him and people like him?(that would be you)

I'm sorry man... I realize

I'm sorry man... I realize this is how you probably make your living, and obviously when I visit your site, I don't make you look good in front of your bosses. I apologize for that

Ah yes, the tired refrain of the conspiradroid - "if they're not with us - they must be gubmint agents"!

C'mon Gold, put down that malt liquor, clean your trailer and stop beating your wife - you're not Charlie Sheen ya know..

It's a school night. G'nite

It's a school night. G'nite all.

"You must have very low self

"You must have very low self esteem to get gratification from something said on a blog. Perhaps you need to get a life outside this place? Just a suggestion."

I'm sorry man... I realize this is how you probably make your living, and obviously when I visit your site, I don't make you look good in front of your bosses. I apologize for that.

But keep in mind Terrence, I

But keep in mind Terrence, I do appreciate your efforts. Even if your bosses don't.

"Sorry... but I like making

"Sorry... but I like making them look like fools. It makes me feel good."

You must have very low self esteem to get gratification from something said on a blog. Perhaps you need to get a life outside this place? Just a suggestion.

Sorry... but I like making

Sorry... but I like making them look like fools. It makes me feel good.

"i think people from this

"i think people from this site probably give that bullshit "debunker" site 90% of its traffic.poor guys."

You may be right.

A thing of

A thing of beauty...

http://911conspiracysmasher.blog...rth- korean.html
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.04.06 - 9:48 pm | #
i think people from this site probably give that bullshit "debunker" site 90% of its traffic.poor guys.

damn you Jon, now i gave

damn you Jon, now i gave them traffic too. thats the last time i post on that fucking site.

and Jones had another Nimmo

and Jones had another Nimmo article up earlier, plus like i said, hes had other people writing about the conflict from a refreshing point of view(meaing not blindingly pro-Israel like %95 of the media.) you come out of nowhere bashing Alex jones and praising Chomsky when nobody even said anything about either of them. is this from last week or something?

elements within the most

elements within the most powerful government on the planet sacrificed the lives of 3000 of its citizens,and the lies of that day and their deaths has lead to hundreds of thousands of other deaths as well as the shredding of our constitution.and the next false flag attack that Chomsk ignores will no doubt lead to more death and tyranny at home and abroad.you cant excuse Chomskys silence on 9/11. it makes all of his current arguments moot to me. he means nothing to me now, for he ignores the big lie that effects so much. how could he? fuck Chomsky.

it is a humanitarian

it is a humanitarian disaster on a massive scale. but what would you call Iraq? how did we get Iraq again? it sure as fuck wasnt just WMD lies...........

The Chomsky article is a

The Chomsky article is a good one. Has Chomsky said anything on his radio show? I only ask because his followers seem to worship him as something of a God, and hopefully he has stressed the importance of activism on this issue. The american people are in a horrible situation.
still here | 07.04.06 - 9:37 pm | #
see what i did there? see the point? Jones at least approaches the important issue you covet the most. and it is important. but Chomsky doesnt touch 9/11 truth with a ten foot pole, despite the fact that 9/11 only effects FUCKING EVERYTHING this government is doing right now.

AmandaReconwith: I see your

AmandaReconwith: I see your littering this thread with your half-baked pseudo-research, too. Still no proof of the source of these clips, however.

A thing of

The Nimmo article is a good

The Nimmo article is a good one. Has Jones said anything on his radio show? I only ask because his followers seem to worship him as something of a God, and hopefully he has stressed the importance of activism on this issue. The Palestinians are in a horrible situation.

I don't see anything at the

I don't see anything at the moment, except for a smokescreen by Reuters. I'm glad they posted the Nimmo article, but this situation warrants a lot more than one critical article and a bunch of limited hangouts. It's a humanitarian disaster on a massive scale.

Anonymous shill, did you not

Anonymous shill, did you not see the Kurt Nimmo article on prisonplanet.com?its still up. surely you dont think Nimmo is "pro Israel", do you? he posts his realistic pieces on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict regulary,as well as pieces from others that take simliar views.

9-11: Noam Chomsky has

9-11:

Noam Chomsky has acted as the premier Left gatekeeper in the aftermath of the 9-11 crimes, lashing out at the 9-11 truth movement and claiming any suggestions of government complicity are fabrications. The "radical" Chomsky takes a position so deeply rooted in denial that it makes the staged 9-11 whitewash commission look like an honest study. He belligerently refuses to discuss any of the massive evidence proving government foreknowledge and participation in the crimes, claiming it would destroy the activist movements worldwide:

"If the left spends its time on this, that's the end of the left, in my opinion: the mainstream would be utterly delighted. It is highly likely that nothing significant will be found. And if -- which I very greatly doubt -- something is found that would quickly send everyone in Washington to the death chamber, the left is unlikely to emerge triumphant."

In other words, Chomsky is telling his followers to ignore the evidence because according to him, none exists.

NONE EXISTS!?!?!?!?! would you agree with your great leader on that? fuck Chomsky. really.

http://www.venusproject.com/e

No, he's a gatekeeper. If

No, he's a gatekeeper. If five-hundred thousand children under the age of fifteen are being subjected to collective punishment, that story deserves top billing.
Anonymous | 07.04.06 - 9:23 pm | #
but the government killing 3000 of its own citizens for geopolitical and monetary gain isnt worth top billing? it doesnt even get a mention from Chomsky. at least Alex Jones has pro-palistine articles on his site.this is a no brainer except for rabid Chomsky groupies.

so because some rightwing

so because some rightwing toolbag racist loves Alex Jones that invalidates everything hes doen? jeez, by that logic i could say everything Chomsky has done means nothing because his fans are a bunch of cultists.

"and Rush Limbaugh is a

"and Rush Limbaugh is a massive tool, im not sure whos coments you posted, but they are obviously full of shit."

Try going to the link and reading the article. The author, a rabid zionist who thinks ethnic cleansing is grand, loves Alex Jones.

I went to prisonplanet. Nothing on the front page except a smokescreen from Reuters.

Indeed, I remember Jones commenting on his show that he "supports" Israel, whatever that means.

No, he's a gatekeeper. If five-hundred thousand children under the age of fifteen are being subjected to collective punishment, that story deserves top billing.

so where is Chomsky's 9/11

so where is Chomsky's 9/11 truth articles on his site? oph wait, 9/11 isnt "important" enough for him to pursue. fuck Chomsky.(watch the groupies cry)

Stewie and Brian in

Stewie and Brian in Amsterdam was a trip...

Brian Griffin: I'm exhausted. Come on. Let's get a coffee.

Stewie Griffin: The smoke is so acrid.

Stewie Griffin: A man can hardly breathe in here.

Pot Head: You should get some hash, man. You can't go wrong.

Stewie Griffin: Not true. Ground meat can go very wrong for me very quickly.

Stewie Griffin: Everyone in this room will suffer the consequences!

Pot Head: You are out there, man, in the ether.

Stewie Griffin: I'd love to further pursue our palaver but I am not fluent in "freak up"!

Stewie Griffin: So, I'm just gonna turn back over here, back towards my table.

Brian Griffin: Say, are you hungry?

Stewie Griffin: I wasn't when I came in. But isn't that so funny? I'm getting there.

Brian Griffin: Yeah. Same here.

Later...

Stewie Griffin: I think the only reason we die is...

Brian Griffin: Dude, I know what you're gonna say. And I am so completely...

Stewie Griffin: Wait, wait, wait!

Stewie Griffin: The only reason we die is because we accept it as an inevitability.

Brian Griffin: Do you think I'll ever find the right woman?

Stewie Griffin: Oh, God! Yes, man! Come on! Dude, you're great!

Corporate Media Ignores War

Corporate Media Ignores War Against Palestinians

Kurt Nimmo | July 4 2006

In a brazen attempt to sugar coat IsraelÂ’s flagrant violations of the Geneva Convention, specifically Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which is intended to protect civilians, the corporate media continues to spin the situation in the Gaza Strip.

“Israel Steps Up Raids in Bid to Free Soldier,” headlines the New York Times, reporting that “Israeli aircraft intensified their attacks on Palestinian targets in Gaza.”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/040706mediaignores.htm

yes, PRISONPLANET.COM

Has Terrence signed on as

Has Terrence signed on as one of the debaters in South Carolina yet?

What does he think of Col. Ray's statements?

Has he written to the editor of Le Monde Diplomatique?

-- --

"The problem is that we all sit quietly, instead of taking action and voting with our dollars. The solution is to work in concert to educate and facilitate each other, and then to vote with our dollars; which means that each of US take steps to identify the people who lie to us in our everyday livesÂ… and stop giving them our money."

-- Richard Andrew Grove
http://www.8thestate.com/?page_id=54

that said, Alex Jones is far

that said, Alex Jones is far from perfect, i disagree with him on most social issues and many other issues, but he,unlike Chomsky isnt afraid to pull back the curtain and report on issues like 9/11 and political assasinations etc.

"best scene ever was when

"best scene ever was when Cookie Monster was in rehab and he gobbles a bunch of cookies in front of the guards, so they atttack him and he starts going "you guys are friggin nazis man, your friggin nazis!!"

LOL

that, and when Peter was in

that, and when Peter was in court, and hes sentenced to life in prison or some long sentence, and one by one they go down the line of family members saying "oh no", and then at the end the Kool Aid man jumps through the brick wall yelling "OH YEAH!!" then he sees where he is and just backs out of the courtroom all awkwardly and shit. that show is brilliant on so many levels.

No inquiry into 7/7

No inquiry into 7/7 bombings, says Blair:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article...

It's like the 9/11 investigations once again...

best scene ever was when

best scene ever was when Cookie Monster was in rehab and he gobbles a bunch of cookies in front of the guards, so they atttack him and he starts going "you guys are friggin nazis man, your friggin nazis!!"

in fact, i posted a Kurt

in fact, i posted a Kurt Nimmo article linked from Prisonplanet.com on this site earlier today.

Chomsky sucks, we have been

Chomsky sucks, we have been over this over and over. get over it. why must you come here and still defend that old waste? Alex Jones regularly posts articles critical of Israel, he had a few in the past few days from Kurt Nimmo, who is hardly an apologist for Israel.and Rush Limbaugh is a massive tool, im not sure whos coments you posted, but they are obviously full of shit.

"actually, wasnt it Stewie

"actually, wasnt it Stewie that dressed up in Lois clothes? i know one caught the other in the bathroom cross dressing, i just dont remember who caught who."

I think Stewie has as well. The reference I was making was to the episode where Stewie walked in on Brian pretending to be Lois...

actually, wasnt it Stewie

actually, wasnt it Stewie that dressed up in Lois clothes? i know one caught the other in the bathroom cross dressing, i just dont remember who caught who.

OT but has Alex Jones

OT but has Alex Jones engaged in any condemnation of Israel on his radio show in the last week?

His website only has a lukewarm article that doesn't do anything to elucidate what is really going on in Gaza.

A million people living in the most densely populated region in the world -- half of whom are under the age of fifteen -- being subjected to brutal collective punishment for the "kidnapping" of an occupying soldier? (Funny how the word "kidnapping" isn't used to refer to the hundreds of actual children -- many of them toddlers -- being held in Israeli prisons).

Is this story not worthy of significant coverage on a website supposedly devoted to covering stories left out of the mainstream?

Just as Chomsky should be called out for his ignoring 911 truth, so should people like Jones be called out for downplaying or ignoring atrocites in Israel.

Here's an interesting article:

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=consp_911&Number=294...

"Then we have the “professors” such as the self-indulgent and auto-congratulatory Noam Chomsky [I like how he puts the word professor in quotations], arguably one of the most virulent anti-Semitic Jews you can hope to encounter.

while I have not always agreed with everything Rush Limbaugh has said, he is a decent human being—as is Alex Jones."

Interesting. So lovers of ethnic cleansing by the apartheid state of Israel hate Chomsky but think Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh are gold.

Time to admit that there isn't just one issue people can gatekeep on?

Brian has been known to

Brian has been known to dress up in Lois' clothing. I don't appreciate the analogy.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.04.06 - 8:42 pm | #
HA!

I just posted this question

I just posted this question on the wonderful article written about me today on Terrence's website...

Conspiracy Smasher... one simple question.

If there were staffers of the 9/11 Commission who had a hard time believing "Cheney's version of events" then why should we believe anything that was told to us by this Administration regarding 9/11?

Brian has been known to

Brian has been known to dress up in Lois' clothing. I don't appreciate the analogy.

Jon Gold reminds me of

Jon Gold reminds me of Brian, the dog on Family Guy. Brian plays the voice of reason. If you don't believe what Brian believes then there is something wrong with you. What a cartoon character!

CNN's Anderson Cooper: Are

CNN's Anderson Cooper: Are Sears Tower Terrorists Patsies?

http://www.infowars.com/articles/terror/anderson_cooper_sears_tower_terr...

Mon., July 3, 2006 Kevin

Mon., July 3, 2006

Kevin Barrett

http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg/ 0607...03_Mon_Greg.m3u
road66 | 07.04.06 - 7:31 pm | #

Does anybody know what this was broadcast on? Radio/net? Approx. audience reach?

Off topic: I didn't even

Off topic: I didn't even remember this getting any press at the time.

The 2005 Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations is the current US doctrine on when and under which circumstances to use nuclear weapons.

The doctrine cites 8 reasons under which field commanders can ask for permission to use nuclear weapons:

An enemy threating to use or using WMD against US, multinational, or alliance forces or civilian populations.
To prevent an imminent biological attack.
To attack enemy WMD or its deep hardened bunkers containing WMD that could be used to target US or its allies.
To stop enemy potentially overwhelming conventional forces.
To rapidly end a war on favorable US terms.
To make sure US and international operations are successful.
To show US intent and capability to use nuclear weapons to deter enemy from using WMDs.
To react to enemy-supplied WMD use by proxies against US and international forces or civilians.

Mon., July 3, 2006 Kevin

http://www.abc.net.au/news/ar

There was a big explosion

There was a big explosion Before #2 hit. It caused my friend to fall backward and pull her tripod down. There was enough time then for her to right it well before the fireball. I can't believe this video above showing the fireball before the plane! If there ever was a plane, it could not have come from West of Kearney, given her partially-unlimited views. This second-hit shows it way too far westward to allow it to 'turn' before the shot we see from below.

I think it's time to organize a 'boycott-line' around CNN/CBS HQ's, with the support of the NYPD, in memory of the fallen! They have ZERO claim to "National Security" over any of this footage.

Word Association...

Word Association... Hologram/Jon Gold

Jon Gold does NOT endorse Holograms.

I should know. He's a good friend of mine.

"conspiracy smashers" claim

"conspiracy smashers" claim Iraq really does have WMD's and ties to al Qaeda/9-11.

pockybot | 07.04.06 - 6:42 pm | #
Terrence, is this true? are you fucking kidding me? you believe that government propaganda yet you have the nerve to come here and bash us? BWAHAHAHAHA

Terrence: Watch 911: The

Terrence:

Watch 911: The Fairy Tale From Hell on youtube, just go straight down the line, don't worry about the order.

Then tell me that we should quit our fight.

http://youtube.com/results?search=fairy+tale+from+hell&search_type=searc...

versions available for VCD/DVD making at http://www.tyrannyalert.com

"conspiracy smashers" claim

"conspiracy smashers" claim Iraq really does have WMD's and ties to al Qaeda/9-11.

Quick poll: Whose a bigger annoyance to fight on here, the no planers or the "OMG there is no coverup crazy idiots!" crowd?

you see, by pushing these

you see, by pushing these bullshit hologram/CGI theories, you provide slow minded morons like terrence with ammo.

Conspiradroids claim that

Conspiradroids claim that North Korean missiles are holograms

Some tinfoiler humor some of you may appreciate...

http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/2006/07/conspiradroids-claim-th...

After a dip on the chart,

After a dip on the chart, Loose Change is back on 2nd place on Google Video. It seems that at any given time, Loose Change occupies three places in the Top100 list. http://video.google.com/videoranking

Excuse me, but I believe we

Excuse me, but I believe we already have all the "LIHOP fiction" we need.

I'll pass on this one.

Excuse me, but I believe we

Excuse me, but I believe we already have all the "LIHOP fiction" we need.

I'll pass on this one.
Rumpl4skn | 07.05.06 - 10:48 am | #
yeah, sadly, it looks like if 9/11 truth breaks big in the mainstream anytime soon, its gonna be Robert"Iran did 9/11!"Baer to do it.this is not good.i guess he'll say that Iranian agents planted bombs in the 3 buildings.

Do yourselves the same favor

Do yourselves the same favor I did a while back - stop paying any attention to the pure ideologues when it comes it reality about anything governmental or corporate or about globalism. The Chomsky's and the Kos's and all os those partisan hacks (yes, hacks) are part of the system, bought and paid for.

Their job is to shore up the status quo by helping to continue the illusion that left-right debate has any purpose other than obfuscating the real power structure, which has no definable ideology, and owes allegiance to nothing but money and power.

Anyone who thinks one particular political party will ever re-investigate 9/11 is clinically insane. If anything, both members of the sham 2-party system will do all they can to avoid the issue, while making the case for the weakest revelation possible. The all-encompassing, magical word that alleviates all doubt, excuses all guilt, removes all suspicion about inherant evil - simple 'Incompetance.'

We used to be unorganized and stupid, but it's all fixed now. Hey look, the ball game's on...

exactly. just because 9/11

exactly. just because 9/11 happened on republican watches doesnt mean all that much, for the simple fact that NO democrats(except for Howard Dean at first,until he was nearly hung for mentioning Bush knew in advance, and of course the great Cynthia Mckinney) mentioned shit about the disturbing questions surrounding 9/11. that makes them all accomplices.there will be no investigation, we can only try them in the court of public opinion sadly.

9/11 truth going mainstream

9/11 truth going mainstream means a whole new system of government, where the 2 main parties will be seen largely as crminals(finally).the democrats dont want that any more than the republicans do.

Another great point, Chris!

Another great point, Chris! Dems & Repugs are all criminals. Their hidden agenda is to make themselves & their rich friends richer, while the poor continue to suffer!

People like Chomsky and

People like Chomsky and Moore have worked a long time to get where they are and they've done a lot to expose the war and power mongers. And you people just want to ignore all that because of the defensive stance they take on 9/11. But what can they do? If they take any kind of stand that would satisfy you people, they would be attacked and discredited and possibly even killed. No one should ever be asked to sacrifice that much... that goes far beyond one person's civic duty.

good icono, at least you

good icono, at least you admit they are cowards. thats what you did, whether you see it or not.