Loose Change Crew Presentation From L.A.
dz Thu, 07/06/2006 - 6:31am
Back to the city. - loosechange911.com
The creators of Loose Change posted their presentation from the recent L.A. conference on their blog, you can find it via the link above.
Sorry for being late on this one, just noticed it myself.
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I could see the poll results
I could see the poll results after I logged out and returned. Nice turnout! 98 percent demand a new investigation.
I really think the Kosians should be encouraged to civil disobedience... there are many ways to do that.
What is the fascination with
What is the fascination with Daily Kos?
Is it the traffic they get?
That clip right after the
That clip right after the Pentagon clock lady speaks, that shows bright yellow flowy stuff coming down the WTC, then a newslady saying she heard what sounded like a 100 firecrackers going off is interesting.
Twin towers survivors sought
Twin towers survivors sought for skyscraper research: http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/news/story/0,,1813194,00.html
Why the Twin Towers only^?
Why the Twin Towers only^? What about WTC-7???
I like to check in
I like to check in with
http://snowshoefilms.com
now and then.
At their 9/11 page they have several new videos up, including
"..YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT,
NEVER THE LESS I AM ONE": LT. COL. RET. ROBERT BOWMAN PHD"
"WHAT WE DON'T KNOW CAN HURT US: JIM FETZER "
"PETER PHILLIPS / PROJECT CENSORED: GLOBAL DOMINANCE, 9/11 & THE AMERICAN MEDIA"
more...
http://snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html
Probably just a false lead
Probably just a false lead up a blind alley, but here's perhaps another
piece of the puzzle:
Daniel Lewin, a multimillionaire passenger on AA Flight 11, was once an
officer in Sayeret Matkal, the Israeli Defense Force's Intelligence Branch:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayeret_Matkal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Lewin
"but the North TowerÂ’s hole wasnÂ’t big enough for a Boeing 767 either,
the alleged widebody airliner used on AA Flight 11 (officially tail number
N334AA, FAA-listed as "destroyed"). A Boeing 767 has a wingspan of
155Â’ 1" (47.6 m) yet the maximum distance across the hole in the North
Tower was about 115 feet (35 m), a hole undersized by some 40 feet or
26 percent."
-- from "Why Did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse?"
by Morgan Reynolds
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html
w199i blocks fbi
w199i blocks fbi investigations of cia fronts.
Is that what this is about?
And as of this posting, it
And as of this posting, it appears that nearly all Loose Change videos have been removed from or made inoperable at Google, minus the Korean translation on the top 100. Anyone else have the same results? There were a couple more in the top 100 earlier today, now they are gone.
I just noticed the same
I just noticed the same thing. Are the french brothers still suing avery. I was wondering if this could be the reason.
I hope its something like this that can be fixed, or some other minor problem. I just hope this isn't a sign of something nefarious at work. And considering the recent attacks on Barrett and Dixon its not very reassuring
interesting... Criminal
interesting...
Criminal Charges Filed Against George H.W. Bush (Sr.) in Iceland
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m24374
Hey Loosey: Hasn't the
Hey Loosey:
Hasn't the Sheraton hotel been debunked?
http://www.flight77.info/dec1/mcquredec06.jpg
Isn't it DoubleTree?
Off topic, but thank you,
Off topic, but thank you, casseia, for posting Killtown's "pull it" text. As Dolan was not satisfied, please point her to the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds", where you'll hear a guy saying "we're getting ready to pull Building 6" in mid-December 2001.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/321426.shtml
Can you still see a poll in my diary? Someone told me that it continues and that over 700 have voted.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/5/152450/0414
A suggestion. Could you guys encourage people there to civil disobedience by e.g. including the text "I do not believe the official story", or something like that, in their signatures? You could even create a poll for the best signature (that would technically avoid violating Kos policy)! Let's not back up now! :-)
Least we forget......"In
Least we forget......"In your hands, my fellow citizens, more than mine, will rest the final success or failure of our course. Since this country was founded, each generation of Americans has been summoned to give testimony to its national loyalty. The graves of young Americans who answered the call to service surround the globe. Now the trumpet summons us again - not as a call to bear arms, though arms we need - not as a call to battle, though embattled we are - but a call to bear the burden of a long twilight struggle year in and year out, "rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation" - a struggle against the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease and war itself.
Can we forge against these enemies a grand and global alliance, north and south, east and west, that can assure a more fruitful life for all mankind? Will you join in that historic effort?
In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility - I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it - and the glow from that fire can truly light the world."
The THIRD
The THIRD plane...
http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc2hit13/
do you also see a big HOLO-Projector on the bottom?
Yeah, it's the traffic.
Yeah, it's the traffic. It's also the fact that they specifically prohibit any posting that does not rigorously adhere to the 19 young dudes with boxcutters, buildings collapsed because of jet fuel fire narrative. I kid you not.
Hey Vesa, over in that other thread I mentioned that I just can't stomach posting over there anymore and I hope that Monsieur le Prof may continue. I also wished you a happy summer holiday.
collection of SECOND
collection of SECOND EXPLOSION
videos
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=TheWebfairy
Indeed some versions of
Indeed some versions of Loose Change are being 'pulled' from google video...what's happening?
"Your video does not comply with our policy guidelines."
Yeah, I guess only emo kids
Yeah, I guess only emo kids making videos, porno and other crap "adheres" to google's policy.
DailyKos has gone OUT of there way to show themselves as government shills. Literally, Markos even said he's CIA friendly and called the CIA "good guys".
DailyKos makes me almost as sick as WingTV and Sean Hannity's site. DailyKos is definately the enemy, and will only seek to bring another corrupt Democrat(Hillary) into power, instead of a REAL progressive. Hell I'd rather vote for Al Gore at this point.
Oh yeah, 1000 votes on Vesa's poll, yet only 1% agree with the official story????? Oh man.
Anyways, MAJOR KUDOS to Vesa, whoever you are.
yeah, great job Vesa, I put
yeah, great job Vesa, I put up two replies in that thread under "duha". But dailykos will be stuck holding the government line until the bitter end it seems.
... a $69,985 wire transfer
... a $69,985 wire transfer that Mohamed Atta ....
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2006/07/03/finance-follies-weekly-news/
Upcoming Australian DOCO:
http://shadowplay.info/
Boeing 757 melted upon
Boeing 757 melted upon impact
http://www.alligator.org/pt2/060706column.php
You know, I hadn't looked at
You know, I hadn't looked at the Naudet brothers dvd since 2002...which seems odd being a 9/11 researcher. I am really startled looking back over it.
Now call me crazy, but does aspects of the Naudet brothers documentary...I dont know, seem staged? Were told it was just blind luck, but that first impact, and then the shot of the man reacting to it from another camera blocks away. It's almost as if
1. At least one of the Naudets was tipped off or told to film there
2. The fake gas leak call was to place them at that exact spot, the caller being in on the advance knowlege.
More evidence, if its proven, for an inside job. Because ONLY the perps would know exactly where the towers would be hit, at what time, and which one. "allowing 9/11" wouldnt explain for it.
Also wanted to say the Pavel
Also wanted to say the Pavel Hlava video proves the no planers are barking up a dead end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9sM7N1Hz9k&search=Pavel%20Hlava
"Upcoming Australian
"Upcoming Australian DOCO:
http://shadowplay.info/"
Hm, I googled the quote they have on their page "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on..." - President George W. Bush
but what found that it was said by Lincoln:
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/27074.html
A minor detail yes..
well, maybe I was wrong
well, maybe I was wrong then. Need to wake up..
The Israeli Moles Who
The Israeli Moles Who Controlled U.S. Defense Computers on 9/11
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4740
I would love to see 911myths
I would love to see 911myths and other Bush apologist "conspiracy smasher" sites TRY and debunk the ISI connection, Sibel Edmonds OR the Mossad agents.
Heck, I'd love to see an update on the "5 dancing Mossad agents filming the attacks". Again, so much has been supressed.
that lady going on about the
that lady going on about the clocks.
I work for the govt and every clock in this building is off by five or ten minutes. EVERY one.
Though I use the slightly fast one for my departure time.
This loose change vid doesn't seem that it'll get the response of the last one.
Though I agree about the reporter commenting on the demolition sounds. Chilling. And the photographer at the pentagon is really interesting.
hey dylan, i think you
hey dylan,
i think you should really correct your statement that the towers collapsed in 10 seconds. It was more like 15 or 16 seconds. check it out yourself. at the 10 second mark the buildings aren't done collapsing.
of course it's impossible to get an exact time, because of all the dust.
Anonymous posted : Twin
Anonymous posted :
Twin towers survivors sought for skyscraper research: http://education.guardian.co.uk/ ...1813194,00.html
Prof Jones posted mail he received at st911 regarding his paper, he let us some some of the kind advice he got. Seems that good ideas travel across the pond.
....................................
"It is better to demonstrate that structural collapse can be prevented than to show how or why structures may be collapsed. Toward this goal, I have recently had some ideas that may be inexpensive, passive, light weight and effective against attack by both fire and explosives. [A rather detailed outline for a suggested grant proposal follows, snipÂ…]
"The concept is patentable, could be easily applied during construction (beneath facia), could be required by building codes, and has a potentially large market. Naturally, research is required to define the required thicknesses, attachment in a way that preserves existing fire protection, and attachment in a way that is difficult to remove without obvious alterations. It could even be added as a decorative feature in existing buildings.
................................
"Perhaps you may come up be different or better ideas, but it suggests a course of action that protects others, rather than put them at risk. It could bring substantial resources to BYU, and could involve a cooperative effort between the structural design group and physics department. This would give you the opportunity to address your explosive ideas without having to capitulate, while improving the resistance of the structure to collapse by fire. It also generates a project that could bring the various departments together in a cooperative effort. Naturally, you are most likely to achieve the greatest success in such an effort if you change course, rather than continue to pursue your present effortÂ…"
University funding is an important topic. Who funds the research ? Need to look at who the backers are in this instant.
"that lady going on about
"that lady going on about the clocks.
I work for the govt and every clock in this building is off by five or ten minutes. EVERY one.
Though I use the slightly fast one for my departure time. This loose change vid doesn't seem that it'll get the response of the last one.
Ron | 07.06.06 - 7:23 am | # "
April Gallop's watch also stopped at 9:32 AM. Besides, TWO clocks inside the Pentagon, both of which are set at least 5 minutes slow?
This is just a preview. Relax.
From Guardian article : The
From Guardian article :
The WTC evacuation study is funded by the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council.
......................................
The Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council (EPSRC) is the UK Government's leading funding agency for research and training in engineering and the physical sciences.
Professor Jones has raised awareness of the lack of research on critical issues surrounding the collapse of three buildings. The limited study of the actual steel and an accounting of the molten steel etc. The peer review system seems remarkably tolerant of NIST's experts. They are allowed to hold back their computer simulations, we simply cannot see all their data. Regardless of what I or others believe, scientific method is about providing a tracking method, the ability to test hypotheses and follow all the steps taken by researchers, right through to their conclusions. Without getting the first part right, fully understanding the cause of the collapse, what is the point in studying the evacuation of buildings etc. The safest advice would be to keep people out of such buildings till we know a great deal more. If NIST still working on their explanation for Building 7, surely it would be better to fund that research
and EPSRC could contribute.
dylan: there is no sheraton
dylan:
there is no sheraton video. I forget the guy's name who asks about it in your video, but if you can politely let him know.
I don't get it. The clip
I don't get it. The clip says "Loose Change Final Cut" but certainly that is not what the content of the clip is. What is the clip? Is Loose Change Final Cut in the can yet? Has it been premiered anywhere?
the pentagon plane actually
the pentagon plane actually used string theory and transferred into a parallel universe.
For a comprehensive critique
For a comprehensive critique of LC2:
Sifting Through Loose Change
A detailed point-by-point critique of the film using an illustrated transcript
http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/index.html
the pentagon plane actually
the pentagon plane actually used string theory and transferred into a parallel universe.
bozo | Homepage | 07.06.06 - 11:44 am | #
line of the day (and early too!)
"For a comprehensive
"For a comprehensive critique of LC2:
Sifting Through Loose Change
A detailed point-by-point critique of the film using an illustrated transcript
http://911research.wtc7.net/revi...ange/ index.html"
wow, do you ever take a rest? back off already.
pockybot said: Also wanted
pockybot said:
Also wanted to say the Pavel Hlava video proves the no planers are barking up a dead end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9sM7N1Hz9k&search=Pavel%20Hlava
pockybot, far be it from me to support the "no-planers", but after multiple viewings of this video I cannot see where it verifies that the first plane (Flight 11) went in the tower. It's too far away, and only shows an explosion.
Please vote in support of
Please vote in support of Kevin Barret at the poll on this website and spread the word- don't let the gov't and academia hang Kevin for his support of 9-11 Truth...
http://www.channel3000.com/news/9457154/detail.html
Also, I urge all to email
Also, I urge all to email the office this week of Congressman Steven Nass who is calling for Kevin's dismissal at rep.nass@legis.state.wi.us . Tell him about Operation Northwoods, PNAC, the fact that the FBI says there is no proof Bin Laden is connected to 9/11, why the investigation was a cover-up, etc. In other woods, cure this guy's ignorance about 9/11.
PLANNING FOR THE 5TH
PLANNING FOR THE 5TH ANNIVERSARY IN NYC
I just put up an initial info page at http://www.ny911truth.org/events/5th_anniversary.htm. I hope all plan to participate and invite everyone you know who cares about revealing the truth. This year will be crucial. We must capitalize from the momentum of the Zogby poll and the successful conferences in Chicago and LA.
REQUIRED READING
Folks, an activist from Westchester who I recently met, Brian, has a web site with links to an online version of "None Dare Call It Conspiracy". This books is a classic. I urge all to take the time and read this incredible primer on the secret machinations of our government and financial system. Go to:
http://reactor-core.org/none-dare.html
>>wow, do you ever take a
>>wow, do you ever take a rest? back off already.
dylan | Homepage | 07.06.06 - 1:19 pm | #
Have you made any of the corrections? No? Well, when you do, people will back off.
Have you included any of the other eyewitnesses from the Pentagon except the cherry-picked ones that support your missile claim? No? Well, when you do, people will back off.
Watch this 26-second video
Watch this 26-second video of WTC-7 imploding. At about the 20 seconds in, you can see Any Goodman of Democracy Now running in panic in the lower-right corner of you screen!!! Ms. Goodman even screams, “Oh God....ahhhh” if you listen closely.
Why does left “gatekeeper” Goodman never mention that she was an eyewitness to WTC-7 imploding in the controlled demolition??? Is this astounding crime of no significance to a woman who hosts a show called, “Democracy Now”???
http://www.zippyvideos.com/2114210245532976/video_ts_new_01/
"Have you made any of the
"Have you made any of the corrections? No? Well, when you do, people will back off."
Yes, I have, and I am. And what I do with my own film is nobody's business except for the people involved in it.
Make your own movie, and people will gladly tear yours to shreds too.
"Have you included any of the other eyewitnesses from the Pentagon except the cherry-picked ones that support your missile claim? No? Well, when you do, people will back off."
first off, you're talking about the 2nd edition. and again, it's our movie to make. we never said a missile hit it, we said it was possible.
do you see us going out and openly attacking people within the movement because of what they believe? no.
hoffman, hufschmid, judge, all these people now devote more time to attacking others within the movement than to actually working for the truth.
we're more than happy to agree to disagree, but people like you who are more energetic towards high-school drama than anything else...well, you have to wonder where your motive lies.
I'm 22 years old and even I think this is ridiculous. how about this movement grows up and loses its ego for a change?
Way to go Vesa! Great diary
Way to go Vesa! Great diary entry, great poll at Daily Kos.
Should the work of independent researchers be used to find out what happened on 9/11?
# Yes. It is evident that the governmental investigations are not truthful.
98%
# No. The governmental investigations are truthful.
1%
Votes: 1609
Vote here:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/5/152450/0414
dylan: AA77 did NOT hit the
dylan: AA77 did NOT hit the Pentagon. They proved this for us when they claimed to ID 63 of 64 passengers with DNA there. An airliner smashes the Pentagon @ 530 mph, nothing is left, yet they could DNA 63 people. No way in hell!
What, no Amy Goodman
What, no Amy Goodman comments^?
I can't view that video for
I can't view that video for some reason of the alleged Ms Goodman so not sure if it is a joke. But if you go to the DemocracyNow archives - you will find she was broadcasting live at the time of the attacks. :-)
Maybe the buildings fell
Maybe the buildings fell down after she finished her show, mark you:-)
The link of Goodman @ WTC-7
The link of Goodman @ WTC-7 works just fine for me:
http://www.zippyvideos.com/2114210245532976/video_ts_new_01/
I see her
I see her now.....wow.....great spot:-)
I would love to see 911myths
I would love to see 911myths and other Bush apologist "conspiracy smasher" sites TRY and debunk the ISI connection, Sibel Edmonds OR the Mossad agents.
Heck, I'd love to see an update on the "5 dancing Mossad agents filming the attacks". Again, so much has been supressed.
They won't. There's a self-described "debunker" on the IMDb boards, who just ignores whole threads when confronted with anything beyond the controlled demolition and Pentagon no-plane theories.
Why do so many people,
Why do so many people, including myself, focus on the way the towers collapsed rather than the other evidence of complicity?
Of course the really strong case is when you look at as much as possible. There is hardly an element of the story that holds up.
The link of Goodman @ WTC-7
The link of Goodman @ WTC-7 works just fine for me:
http://www.zippyvideos.com/21142...ideo_ts_new_01/
Anonymous | 07.06.06 - 3:30 pm | #
is that really her?
Dylan, if your out there,
Dylan, if your out there, did Al Jourgenson from Ministry have to get your permission to include clips from Loose Change in their new album? or did they just jack it? either way, you should be proud to be in a Ministry album.
Dylan's right. His movie has
Dylan's right.
His movie has single-handedly brought the truth movement to more people than any other video, site, or emailing.
I won't ever forget when I first saw it. It left me stunned, and I began researching 9-11 ever since, after sending it to a bunch of people.
agreed R, thats why it
agreed R, thats why it puzzles me when you constantly see people trashing it. are all 9/11 truth activists raging perfectionists?
they forget that the
they forget that the OFFICIAL report is almost a cartoon of imperfection.
But I've been guilty of wanting absolute proof that I get angry when I see less than perfect arguments. I think it's the frustration of NEEDING SOLID EVIDENCE. It's easy to lose sight and get frustrated.
yeah, but with a lot of
yeah, but with a lot of people, its goes beyond just nitpicking. some people just wont admit the huge difference,like it or not, that Loose Change has made.it has indeed opened more eyes to the fact that we were lied to on a massive scale like no other single source has so far.
I see Chris posting over and
I see Chris posting over and over to praise Loose Change, since he supports no plane. I see Dylan saying the 2nd Edition didn't say a missile hit but said it was possible, yet a different standard of evidence is applied for AA77, which cannot be considered as a possibility. No evidence is presented to show that that existing plane could have been involved -- that evidence must be ignored.
A 22 year old claims "this is our film," as a 22 year old will, because they don't actually care about the work of the larger movement, only themselves and those who agree with them. They have no understanding of what a democracy would involve -- it's their party, don't like it? Leave. This is the same as the standard response from the conservatives to anyone who doesn't like their version of imperialist and militarized America -- don't like it? Leave. It's ours.
But when the film -- funded by Phil Jayhan of letsroll911 (pods, missiles, the webfairy!) -- is then downloaded millions of times off google, it affects everyone else trying to do this work, people who have worked for years, and there is a level of responsibility, given that, to not promote bogus and unsupported claims used to smear us all in the media, while ignoring the existing evidence -- like the many witnesses that say they saw a passenger jet -- because it doesn't fit with the hype of 'missile!' and 'drone!'
hahahahaa. they never
hahahahaa. they never fucking stop. nitpicking bastards.hahaha
it didnt wake anybody up
it didnt wake anybody up though right?you cant admit that? use your real name pussy.
Chris has a great point. Did
Chris has a great point.
Did it or did it not wake a shitload of people up? Did it present the information in a nonthreatening and tasteful manner to get people THINKING?
Nitpick all you want, but that film introduces so many topics that so many people have never even heard of.
It has one of the best WT7 segments anywhere. It discusses wargames and highrise fires and administration lies about never thinking before of this sort of attack. All with high production value so the ordinary person could stay interested and intrigued. I've shown it to a bunch of people and it's had the same effect on all of them. They are blown away and shocked and they want to know more information. Which is exactly the point of it.
The link of Goodman @ WTC-7
The link of Goodman @ WTC-7 works just fine for me:
Anonymous | 07.06.06 - 3:30 pm | #
is that really her?
Chris | Homepage | 07.06.06 - 5:37 pm | #
http://www.zippyvideos.com/2114210245532976/video_ts_new_01/
Yes Sir, Chris! That's Ms. Goodman near the end of the clip, running through the crowd & yelling in fear.
The sad part is she is a total gatekeeper in her silence about reporting on a 9/11 building that imploded before her own eyes!
Look, I have some problems
Look, I have some problems with some of the assertions of loose change 2E(I strongly disagree with the cleveland, fake Osama tape idea, and Pentagon theory) but unless it's a squeaky clean safe for everyone "LIHOP" documentary, not every thoery or idea is going to jive with people.
Trust me, these guys are sincere. I got to hang with em' a little in LA, and they are the real deal. SO much time has been devoted to attacking these guys, but Loose Change has single handedly like it or not brough the 9/11 Truth movement TO THE MAINSTREAM. To the front page of virtually every mainstream news site ever...MSNBC, AOL, USAToday, CNN, Google News, etc. Are some of the assertions "False"...well, let's just say I have a feeling LC Final Cut is going to hit it out of the park. There's a lot of pressure to make it the magnum opus.
Anonymous wrote: Watch this
Anonymous wrote:
Watch this 26-second video of WTC-7 imploding. At about the 20 seconds in, you can see Any Goodman of Democracy Now running in panic in the lower-right corner of you screen!!! "Ms. Goodman even screams, “Oh God....ahhhh” if you listen closely.
Why does left “gatekeeper” Goodman never mention that she was an eyewitness to WTC-7 imploding in the controlled demolition??? Is this astounding crime of no significance to a woman who hosts a show called, “Democracy Now”???
http://www.zippyvideos.com/2114210245532976/video_ts_new_01/
_____----
Thank you for the link.
I wonder if Queen Gatekeeper was standing near these two eyewitnesses when WTC7 was demolished:
-1010 WINS Reporter Al Jones: "People started to run away from the scene [WTC7] and I turned in time to see what looked like a skyscraper implosion - looked like it had been done by a demolition crew - the whole thing just collapsing down on itself and another big huge plume of gray and white smoke shooting up into the air and then more of the smoke billowing up the street here... so thatÂ’s number one, number two, and now number seven that have come down from this explosion. "
Live 9-11 Report from 1010 WINS NYC News Radio, presented in the documentary "911 Eyewitness" (Forward to 28:25)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=65460757734339444&q=911+eyewitness
-Emergency worker who witnessed the collapse of Building 7: "We were watching the building [WTC7] actually ‘cuz it was on fire… the bottom floors of the building were on fire and… we heard this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder… turned around - we were shocked to see that the building was ah well it looked like there was a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows all busted out… it was horrifying… about a second later the bottom floor caved out and the building followed after that… we saw the building crash down all the way to the ground… we were in shock. "
Live 9-11 Report from 1010 WINS NYC News Radio, presented in the documentary "911 Eyewitness" (Forward to 31:30)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=65460757734339444&q=911+eyewitness
Anyone have any unedited raw video footage (with sound) of the 7 World Trade Center demolition (other than the clip from "911 Eyewitness)?
Loose Change made me
Loose Change made me research 9/11, it changed my opinion and its changed the opinion of other people I know that have seen it.
Whatever anyone thinks of it, its got people thinking and talking. Well done.
Loose Change made me
Loose Change made me research 9/11, it changed my opinion and its changed the opinion of other people I know that have seen it.
Whatever anyone thinks of it, its got people thinking and talking. Well done.
Steve | 07.07.06 - 5:22 am | #
and thats the central point that the bashers fail to see.the naive fucks think that most americans are as wrapped up in 9/11 truth as all of us here.they think the fact that the Pentagon and some other controversial stuff is in the film is gonna completely shut down the minds of whoever is watching it and make them forget everything else in the movie because it does that to them.naive sons a bitches.
stallion4 | 07.07.06 - 3:58
stallion4 | 07.07.06 - 3:58 am | #
That is some fantastic eyewitness evidence, stallion4!
I'd like to see snazzy
I'd like to see snazzy Computer Graphics and Animations explaining the evidence of Nico.
I am almost certain that the only problem with this evidence is that nobody understands it. It just needs better explaining...
Who is able to make a computer simulation.
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Whalen
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Whalen06.html
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