There was landing gear on the ground, VIDEO FOOTAGE SHOWS THE PLANES HITTING, as well as thousands of eyewitnesses. What more do you need?

Now it's your turn. Lets see your facts.

Congratulations Loose Change folk.

Dick Cheney Is Lying And Fear Mongering With 9/11 Again

"Thanks to Nico Haupt for the heads up!"

^ LOL Yea, and thanks Nico for pedalling bullshit that damages the effort concerned with actually exposing the crimes if 911! Big round of applause for "Nico and the "no planers"!!!

Damn, already sent.... for the sake of an "s".

Oh well. Ya'll get my meaning.

Erin... you're in the Falls Church area?

Ever hear about these guys?

Thank you for the link, Dem Bruce Lee Styles.

Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc. is listed on www.coalitionof911families.org as a sponsor. Isn't that company Richard Grove spoke of?

true dz, Vanity Fair always has some hard hitting stuff. i always used to think it was just some womens magazine.

Jon Gold, yes, Richard Grove did focus a lot on Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc. having their hands dirty when it comes to the 9/11 attacks.

But http://www.coalitionof911families.org isn't a 9/11 Truth organization, at least not officially. So if it is true that Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc. is dirty, they probably think this group is a safe, warm and fuzzy 9/11 victims' families group that doesn't represent any threat (and could be donating money in the hopes of keeping it that way). The group mainly seems to be about "provid[ing] emotional support."

Crazy Nico gets so much abuse hurled at him on this forum that my English love of the underdog is starting to make me like him. How about saying thanks for the heads up, all of you Nico haters?

Why do you find his wacky theories so threatening anyway? I'd hate to be in some of your shoes if it turned out he was right. I don't go along with them, but some surprising names in British 911 do. Live and let live for God's sake.

Alex Jones makes a great point in that interview about how the uptick in the "terror threats" and foiled "terror plots" lately show that they are providing cover for themselves for when they stage another attack. a big false flag is coming soon, and they can use these "foiled terror plots" to show they were trying.

And I know I said don't argue the Pentagon Chris. It's the arguing and the name-calling that damage us, not the crazy theories.

Why do you find his wacky theories so threatening anyway? I'd hate to be in some of your shoes if it turned out he was right. I don't go along with them, but some surprising names in British 911 do. Live and let live for God's sake.
Andrew Lowe Watson | Homepage | 07.07.06 - 7:07 pm | #
it doesnt help that he insulted just about everyone on this board at one time or another. and not always just because he was being "attacked".

Andrew, watch this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6317630216235657870

Nico calls people "orwellian" and shit all the time. talk to him.

and i think some people here might disagree with you when you say that his crazy theories dont hurt the movement.

Hi guys,

I am new to 911blogger and really enjoy this website. For the last couple of years, I have been been reading up on 9/11, including reading the number of websites, blogs, videos on the internet, as well as reading both books by David Ray Griffin and Michael Ruppert's book, among others.

I am 100% convinced of the MIHOP theory that the govt. was complicit in 9/11 as many of you are. I did get a reality check today when I attended an anti-Bush rally just across the street from me in Chicago at a park located just adjacent to the Drake Hotel where Bush was having lunch.

There was a pretty good turnout. The protests were around our involvement of the Iraq War, abortion laws, the environment and just general calling out for impeachment. There was on gentleman there handing out 9-11 dollars. I talked to him for a bit. He was also touting the new Alex Russo film.

I walked around the demonstration and asked a large number of people about their opinion of the govt's role in 9/11. 90% of the respondents, when asked, got this blank stare in their eyes before responding that they had heard of this theory, but there were enough issues against Bush that did not require bringing this "whole 9/11 thing up". It was a bit disheartening. There are a LOT of people out there (66% of the population) that want Bush out of office, but a very small percentage that want to face up to the fact that our govt. was complicit in 9/11.

We need a truly credible and powerful representative of the U.S. populace to take a stand before this movement will really reach the mainstream. I know.... 9/11 Scholars for Truth and others such as people that post here and elsewhere are very credible. But we need someone in govt, powerful, well-respected to get involved and speak out.

It was a fun and interesting day here in the great city of Chicago.

Andrew, watch this:

http://video.google.com/ videopla...630216235657870
Chris | Homepage | 07.07.06 - 7:10 pm | #

I'll watch it - slow loading here - but in fact I am with you on the Pentagon - I think.

i dont think Flight 77 hit it,but im not 100% sure like many people on both sides of the issue though.

Kurt, thats the power of the mainstream media. if CNN and Time magazine doesnt cover it, most people dont think its true, or worth pursuing.

Great! As usual, everyone gets all gooey and doe eyed everytime a new artical is written, regardless of its content. I kid.

While everyone is thrilled that this artical presents some of the 9/11 facts, it also makes very clear that the movement is split, and that the most prominant 9/11 truth movie was made by someone who thinks that 9/11 truth may lead to violent revolution.

While both of these things may be true, they are also great fodder for those in our government and media trying to undermine the movement. In fact this falls in line with standard cointelpro strategy. They take an innocent project like Loose Change, and use it to promote dischord in the movement, and suggest that the movement is radical and even dangerous. How many times are they going to get away with that?

I'm not saying that the author of the artical is an agent, or that that makers of Loose Change would willingly conspire with the government.

I am saying that many of these 9/11 articals, which appear at first to be relatively fair, actually contain key phrases and sentences that, consciously or not, serve to position the movement for discredit.

Although I have been known to argue that the facts being published is all that really matters, I think now that we should consider how the information is framed, and what indirect impact it might have on the movement.

HOLY SLAM DUNK BATMAN! BIG BIG Kudos to Vanity Fair and the Loose Change guys. Damn. Seriously, that has to be the most 9/11 Truth friendly article I've seen.

It seems to me more people have seen Loose Change than Super Size Me. Anyways, I am very happy for these guys, and I absolutely cannot wait for the final cut. I want to be able to walk into a San Francisco theatre and say "one ticket for Loose Change Final Cut please".

For the Alex Jones show today...this CONFIRMS what I've heard from several prominent NY 9/11 Truth actists who know the 9/11 families very well, that at least half think they allowed it to happened, covered up the role of ally countries involved and or were in on it.

As for Nico, I think it's the attitude really that bugs people. But then again the truth bashers get pretty nasty as well.

Finally, welcome Kurt. And I KNOW what you mean...the anti Bush activist crowd DO NOT want to hear about 9/11. I don't know why, I guess it's too much for their granola chewing hippy dada selves to ingest. Because 9/11 Truth involves complex reasoning? I dunno.

Crazy Nico gets so much abuse hurled at him on this forum that my English love of the underdog is starting to make me like him. How about saying thanks for the heads up, all of you Nico haters?

Why do you find his wacky theories so threatening anyway? I'd hate to be in some of your shoes if it turned out he was right. I don't go along with them, but some surprising names in British 911 do. Live and let live for God's sake.
Andrew Lowe Watson | Homepage | 07.07.06 - 7:07 pm | #

No I've got to disagree, I've got no problem with the potential validity of what Nico pushes, the point is "no planes hit the wtc" along with "Pods etc", damages the credibility of every other issue that actually has the potential to convince people. In basic terms it's like having a sold argument that 9/11 was an inside job already, but rather then going with that some people are instead pushing something that makes 90% of people scoff. Come on think about it, imagine someone who still believes the official story hearing either "No planes hit the towers, it was all "CGI" and THATS the proof that 911 was an inside job". Or instead that person is exposed to Dr Jones' work for example and reads his summary on building 7's collapse. Which issue do you think is going to trigger that hypothetical person to be sceptical of the official story? IÂ’ve got no problem with Nico and the no planers researching whatever they want to research. The point is I do have a problem with something that is being pushed so much to the extent that it has the potential to damage all 9/11 sceptics credibility. Hell, we might even discover that those planes where in actual fact flying pink elephants, but does that mean anyone should push that idea?

Just another note on today....

I was in a cab in Chicago. I mentioned to the cab driver that the reason for the snarl in traffic was that the "President" was in town. He hesitated a bit... then asked me about my opinion of the "President". I told him how I felt.. basically saying Bush was the worst POTUS, ever! and that our country was in the weakest position we have ever been in... including the depression... The cab driver agreed (he was from Middle Eastern origin). He named off the top four reasons that Bush should be impeached. His knowledge about our government was impressive considering he had only been in the country for a few years. Then, I mentioned my opinion about the government's complicitness surrounding 9/11. The cabbie's response was quote "I like you, I really like you. You are the first American who has ever admitted that". Then it was no holds barred. We talked about all the evidence against the official 9/11 story. What stuck in his head was the finding of the Atta passport. I educated him on WTC-7, etc. 10 minutes after I reached my destination we were still talking. It was a nice moment for me. I told the cabbie about 911blogger.com. I believe we have one more compatriot. Take care all!!!

P.S. I have been watching the "Revolution" series on the History Channel. Our founding fathers would have never put up with the shit that we are putting up with today.

So here's what I read with my morning coffee today, in The Oregonian, the state's largest daily newspaper, in the weekend entertainment section:

9/11 Conspiracy?
It wasn't an American Airlines jet that hit the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001 -- it was a cruise missile. United Flight 93 didn't crash in Pennsylvania or anywhere else; it landed in Cleveland and the passengers were all spirited away. The World Trade Center collapsed because of a controlled demolition using previously implanted [sic] explosives. Osama bin Laden was responsible for none of the events of 9/11; instead, it was the American government that killed thousands of its own citizens, so that WTC owner Larry Silverstein could collect on his insurance and the Bush Administration could rule with impunity. Whew!
These are all assertions made in Dylan Avery's pseudo-documentary [again, sic] "Loose Change" which selectively uses images and news footage relating to 9/11 to back up its outlandish hypotheses. It's the kind of conspiracy theorizing that gives genuine investigative journalism a bad name, and it provides ample cause for administration supporters to tar any skeptics with the same brush of lunacy.
This is America: Dylan Avery is free to make his film; the Clinton Street Theater and Brewpub is free to show it and you're free to go see it. But I'm also free to recommend that afterward you go online and look up one of the many independent Web sites that do the laborious job of fact-checking Avery's work: The result isn't pretty.

The author is a freelance writer: marc.mohan@gmail.com

Google "the war they wanted the lies they needed vanity fair" for a great article on italy/US propaganda operation prior to the
invasion in Iraq.

Hard to believe the smoking gun, wtc7 wasn't included in this article but it's great that vanity fair gave loose change a good story.

HAT TIP TO NICO, and thanks guys for giving him the front page treatment. This is a good day. I know how much some of us have felt annoyed by his comments... And I don't agree with some of his theories. But, wasn't there talk recently on these comments thingies wondering just who was he working for? Questioning his sanity? Between Ned Lamont kicking Joe Lieberman's ass in last night's debate, and all the outrage people had that the MSM media said Joe won- proving just who they take orders from. And Nico getting the microphone, this really is a good day. What a relief.

Oh no, that one is real. Couldn't you see the UA colors and read the logo on the tail from that "clearly" 767?

{roll eyes}

>>>>Why do you insist on pushing this "Fake" plane nonsence? What's in it for you and people like you? $$$?

Sorry, some of us wants the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I just heard the Bill doyle interview on Alex Jones. Wow. Just wow. THIS is the loaded ammo we should be shouting to the heavens. Fuck the zogby polls, fuck the missile/no plane/whatever theories noone can agree on...when half the 9/11 families are saying something is up, my God. Add to that so many former top level officials...yet the media and idiots want to make it all about "Loose Change".

I urge everyone to post the Bill Doyle prisonplent story far and wide:
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/080706governmentcomplicit.htm

pockybot, people shouldn't forget to pass out the link to the free audio of the interview of Bill Doyle along with the article link. See my above post at 07.07.06 - 11:42 pm for that.

Psst...

Gotta DU account? Come and pimp my thread... (give it a "Greatest" vote)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

We have all but purchased a ticket to "NAU/NWO- Final Cut."

Imagine the immediate future. All this minutia won't matter one bit if we can't use the existing legal system to right all checks and balances. Can anyone here form a mental picture of what it might take, and where we would really be if/when we organized all of our beliefs around one solidarity force that WILL, UNDENIABLY effect real change?

Picture the endgame: Government has nothing do do with me and you, but nobody is complaining. We already have "North American Union," soon, there's a bomb, which forces the Army to create the NWO...

Maybe in between, if we are lucky there will be another crash, and a "Great Global depression." -Thank the lord for affordable housing!

Not addressing these very real and very likely potential threats means that we have failed to assimilate, though we all understand the plot. The easy way out is to "plea ignorance." But, this time we don't get that option.

Popcorn, anyone?

Oh no, that one is real. Couldn't you see the UA colors and read the logo on the tail from that "clearly" 767?

{roll eyes}
Anonymous | 07.07.06 - 11:55 pm | #

OMG you've convinced me now, "Anonymous"!! I wasn't thoroughly convinced until you rolled your eyes! That was the turning point for me! I'm now thoroughly convinced that the planes were fake, the buildings were fake... yeah EVERYTHING is fake... including you, me, this website, the air we breathe, the food we eat, the ground we walk on and on and on and on... all because you rolled your eyes at the video clip I posted! Wow you are good!

Look, I'm sure this won't come as a shock to you, but you're damaging the credibility of legitimate 9-11 research by mixing in your no plane nonsense/disinfo, which is also helping the criminals that perpetrated the 9-11 attack continue to get away with their crime. Why would you want to do that?

Anyone have any info on the contruction and demolition companies who said they arrived monday September 10, 2001? Is this true?

Amazing Amazing article. Almost brought a tear to my eye. Well written.

We ARE going to win this thing by god! The problem is winning it before they set off a nuke or something to divert attention.

I sent a letter to Vanity Fair, to thank them for covering an aspect of 9/11 Truth. I then recommended other investigators in the movement. I would suggest if people are going to send emails to VF, they should adopt a moderate tone, thank them, recognize that Loose Change is not the entire 9/11 Truth Movement, and perhaps mention some credible investigators and academics in the movement.

Trashing Loose Change, or calling for Bush to be hanged, probably won't get in their letters page, and probably won't help advance 9/11 Truth with a mainstream audience.

I'm not recommending anyone here put away their passion. Just consider the audience for your letters.

Just a thought.

verdonsky: Do you mean the FEMA guy?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html

Look, I'm sure this won't come as a shock to you, but you're damaging the credibility of legitimate 9-11 research by mixing in your no plane [hit the Pentagon or crashed in Shanksville] nonsense/disinfo...

Yes, I've heard that before too.

Bush Hanging From a Thread

http://thewebfairy.com/911/nicknack

A quote from a June, 1992 exclusive and published
interview granted by President George H. W. Bush to
Sarah McClendon, the grand dame of the White House
press corps at the time explains many events
relevant to the self-inflicted wounds of 9/11:

“George Bush, what will the people do if they ever
find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra?

‘Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we
have done, they will chase us down the streets and
lynch us.’ ”

1. This explains how the whole 1976 staffing was put
back in place (Rumsfeld, Secretary of State in 1976;
Bush Senior, CIA Director in 1976, Nelson Rockefeller
as Vice President and almost President after three
failed assassination attempts on appointed Ford;
Cheney was chief of staff for President Ford in 1976.
These three came back together under the son of Bush
Senior when George W. Bush was installed by the
Supreme Court. Then Bush Senior is really back in
control once Bush Senior's right hand man, Mueller,
was placed as head of the FBI weeks before the 9-11
self hit.

2. This explains why the plan was postponed: Bush
removed from CIA position by Carter, plan postponed.

Regroup....

3. This explains the 'delay' when Nelson Rockefeller
both fails to become president like he wanted in 1976.
Then he dies in 1979.

4. This explains how they thought they could seriously
rewrite the U.S. Constitution in 1976, to set up
totally appointed frameworks of the legislature. This
was connected to Rockefeller's as well. Perhaps the
terror hit that was planned was to be done in a few
years to do it.

5. This explains the Trilateral issues here: Nelson
got half his wish by basically dominating all
appointments of the Carter Administration with
Trilaterals, a clique of banker/internationalists
(which included George Bush by the way) all hand
picked by his brother David Rockefeller. Trilaterals
were started up by David Rockefeller with aid by Mr.
Grand Chessboard himself, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who in
late 1990s wrote of the "requirements" for a "new
pearl harbor" because U.S. democracy 'lacks the will
to be an empire without such events, history has
shown'. Carter is one of the first Trilaterals as
well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller

http://911review.org/Sept11Wiki/TrilateralCommission.shtml

6. This explains why the WTC was chosen: found to be
unstable, and perhaps even the WTC was created simply
for the Rockefeller desire of destroying them. After
all, they were constructed under Nelson Rockefeller
himself (as Governor of New York), with help from his
brother on financing, David Rockefeller (founder of
the Trilateral). These would be the very people who
thought they would be in charge directly after Ford
Assassination attempts. However, all these failed.

http://100777.com/node/1074?PHPSESSID=bbaf5acd6670382d728b5299fb955d39

7. This explains the surrogate hit on Three Mile
Island to "jump start" FEMA as a back up plan, in
1979. FEMA is actually 'activated' three days early,
before it is even authorized, to be in place for the
fake hit on Three Mile Island. FEMA allows total media
seal off and vetting of all events through the federal
government. The state terror test successful.

8. This explains why Bush Senior is so anxious to get
into the Presidency in 1980.

9. This explains why he is willing to murder Reagan to
do it, when his Vice President, in 1981, mere
months into Reagan's first term. THE ATTEMPTED COUP
D'ETAT OF MARCH 30, 1981

http://www.tarpley.net/bush17.htm

10. This explains the later 1993 FBI sponsored
attempts, months into Bush proxy William Jefferson
Clinton (drug dealing connections) to destroy the
Towers through surrogate terrorists they actually told
what to hit and how to hit it. However, the Towers
failed to fall down.

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/boys.html

11. This explains how directly after this failed
attempt to take down the towers, the Bush family buys
up the WTC security contracts. Soon, Marvin Bush is
head of Security (Securatec) for the WTC. (The reality
is a bit more complicated, though it shows the Bush
company (Kuwaiti-American) in charge of security at
the WTC after a failed attempt.

12. This explains how in early 2001, the whole 1976
team were put into power once more through Bush
family appointments: Baby Bush appoints his father's
1976 friends to power once more: Cheney (Bush Senior's
Secretary of State for the Gulf War I, Halliburton
connections, and Cheney was Ford's 1976 Chief of
Staff), Rumsfeld (appointed Secretary of State in
2001, was appointed Secretary of State in 1976 for
appointed Ford as well...), and appointing George W.
Bush (a proxy for his father coming back into power
from his "interrupted" 1976 CIA Directorship), and the
appointing of another GHW Bush right hand man,
Mueller, as FBI director. Then they were set to
unleash their hit on the United States. Which they did
and which they will continue to do as more hits are
waiting in the wings.

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2006/03/dame-edna-speaks-to-ohio.html

Look, I'm sure this won't come as a shock to you, but you're damaging the credibility of legitimate 9-11 research by mixing in your no plane [hit the Pentagon or crashed in Shanksville] nonsense/disinfo...

Yes, I've heard that before too.
Anonymous | 07.08.06 - 1:49 am | #

Anonymous coward:

Don't misquote me asshole. We're talking about the "Second Plane" hit @ the WTC that you so assuredly proclaim was a "fake". Well the evidence DOES NOT support your theory. Now kindly do us all a great favor by drinking a very large cup of STFU and let those who are not protecting the 9-11 criminals get back to work.

"Fool's gold exists because there is real gold." - Rumi

Damn, I don't give a rats ass if the twin towers and pentagon were hit by 757's or flying saucers full of little green space men. That doesn't change a damn thing. Bush, Cheney and company are still guilty of high treason and mass murder for the crimes of 9/11 and should hang! Building 7 was brought down by controlled demolition. That is all the proof I need. Now quit your bitching and get out there and start spreading the truth!!!

.

Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software Limits

http://www.viewzone.com/911revisited.html

.

Only 6 percent into the "New American Century"

Help me get to the US Congress:

http://www.SendMeABuck.com
http://www.myspace.com/sendmeabuck

http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/pen06.html
Please, if you think there is no markings at the Pentagon wall of the wings, see(at least) the first photo at the link above.
Remember that the wall had been reinforced against an attack so it is understandable it wouldnt sustain as heavy damage as the WTC towers did.

Damn, I don't give a rats ass if the twin towers and pentagon were hit by 757's or flying saucers full of little green space men. That doesn't change a damn thing. Bush, Cheney and company are still guilty of high treason and mass murder for the crimes of 9/11 and should hang! Building 7 was brought down by controlled demolition. That is all the proof I need. Now quit your bitching and get out there and start spreading the truth!!!
9/11grunt | Homepage | 07.08.06 - 3:22 am | #

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Excuse me? "Quit your bitching and get out there and start spreading the truth"? Your a fuckin' idiot if you condone the spreading around of garbage such as the no planes @ the WTC BS. Is that your idea of "truth"? If so, then we are not on the same team.

I have toi agree with 911Grunt.

Anyway, the VF article I think is the best coverage I've seen yet. Kudos to the Avery team, I'm forwarding this one around.

Planes/No planes, who cares? It's irrelevant that anybody cares. I believe that the Pentagon-hit looks bad on film partly because of the auto-iris of the cheap security camera. It can't record either sudden brightness, or rapid horizontal movement. AND the lack of big, shiny, mangled aircraft parts says 'faked' whatever it was they used to get so much attention.

Nobody is challenging the basic flare in those security cams, because they sure didn't convincingly render a plane. Much more importantly, you had a thousand 'witnesses' there. It's kind of like a jailyard story. Each prisioner is worried for their lives if they so much as make a peep. They know there are no secrets, no place to hide from da masser.

Still, Justice can only come with a trial. The idiotic voters can wish all they want, but eventually America has to begin to behave just like the perps, and that will only come with crash, and subsequent cries for survival. I just wonder about those average folks who have come at this with an open mind, got more than an eyefull, but still sit quietly on our buts and speculate details, why?

Show me the film, play the entire segement on TV, prove you are accountable to your constituency by way of lie-detector test. We can assume they did it for the money. Either way, we only think we are powerless to stop the entire system and are therefore already fulfilling the Bilderberg's dream, by dying as the world's dumbest fools.

There is one lesson in life I learned a very, very, long time ago. Favors are like money in the bank. And I'm getting ready to make a withdrawal.

http://www.gospelthomas.com/gospelthomas10.html

Regarding the VF article, I particluarily like this paragraph in the middle of page #3. Double-think?

"It's a long leap from this ,however, to claiming, "The government did it." There is no conclusive evidence in Loose Change of U.S. government involvement in 9/11. The film relies too heavily on already published reports, some of which have been discredited. For example, the segment on United Flight 93 cites an early story from a Cincinnati ABC News affiliate, WCPO, on the plane's safe landing at a Cleveland airport on the morning of September 11. WCPO later retracted the story."

they unpersoned it.

What are you so angry about? I had a look at Killtown's page and it is interesting and not straightforward. Things like missing wing tips. No sound of engines, The woman saying the explosion came from inside the building. The missing nose cone. Jon Gold says we should be asking questions, not seeking answers, so what is wrong with asking why there are these anomalies? Some of us sound just like 911 deniers who have set minds about what happened. The anger, the panic, the name-calling . Just sit back and take a long hard look and then decide for yourself - I don't know.

"Some of us sound just like 911 deniers who have set minds about what happened."

Excellent comment. I notice that too. Some appear to have their pet ideas of what happened and when another person tries to bring up other possibilities the new theory gets rejected out of hand. I stay open to everything. There are so many anomolies that happened that day, I'm willing to at least consider any possibility.

Hal Turner interviewed Captain Eric May on July 5, 2006. Captain May talked about three basic subjects from the point of view of his own field of expertise -- military intelligence:

1: The Battle of Baghdad Cover Up (BOBCUP) and the US neutron bomb used at the Baghdad Airport.

2: The 911 Event as a Zionist/Globalist pretext to lead us to World War Three (they call it the Global War on Terror) and rob us of our American liberties.

3: The 911-2B -- which the Bush League Media keeps telling us is going "to be" sooner or later, and which is a sine qua non for the war criminals in the Whitewash House to escape their just deserts.

http://www.nukeisraelnow.com/Copy%20of%20EricMay070506.mp3

Speaking of direct action we need something like this Bush&Co Chain Gang on the 9/11/2006!

http://www.backbonecampaign.org/chaingang.cfm

Excellent to see Vanity Fair step to the plate. They always seem to cover the unusual in their history. A giant applause to Dylan and Co. for getting 911 planted in them.

You guys rock.

See you in DC after your gig!

http://www.911citizenscourt.com

Cindy is bringing her people for the campout! It is offical and she has the permits!

Rick

"Jon Gold says we should be asking questions, not seeking answers, so what is wrong with asking why there are these anomalies?"

Jon Gold does NOT say that. Jon Gold says that it is not our job to answer the questions. It is the Government's job to do so. It is OUR JOB to hold them to it.

The 9/11 Truth Movement can only go so far with our research. We do not have access to everything we need to get a full and complete accounting of the events of 9/11.

I spent a year and a half researching 9/11. Trying to find answers to my questions, and each 'answer' I found, led to a new question.

There needs to be a new investigation as described in the Zogby Poll.

That's my opinion.

Some people say that so many unanswered questions about 9/11 remain that Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success.

Rick I was surprised that Cindy is the board of the 9/11/2006 direct action. I'm wondering what would Michael Moore and Amy Goodman do? Are they going to skip the 9/11 issue that's gonna be fun watching all these left gatekeepers distancing from Cindy..

Just watched WHY WE FIGHT. Great intro to the PNAC.

Just watched WHY WE FIGHT. Great intro to the PNAC.
Anonymous | 07.08.06 - 9:22 am | #
i still havent seen it, ive heard about it though, and i like how he interviews Pearl and Wolfowitz and uses their own words against them.

Here's the original BBC version.

http://www.indybay.org/uploads/why_we_fight.rm

Chris, my browser crashed trying to listen to that Mac Speaking voice. I know her well. She is completely brainless, rather like some of those poison blondes who they set on unsuspcting truthers.
Nice simulation of the plane skimming the ground though. Made me smile.
Andrew Lowe Watson | Homepage | 07.07.06 - 8:17 pm | #
that doesnt invalidate the various witness connections to government. have you done any reasearch into mockingbird? USA Todays history? you should.

"Avery and his Zionist disinfo buddies need to take a hike."

David's just upset I won't let him be my Friend on Myspace. :D

Actually Dylan you did let me be your friend on MySpace. Once I started to expose you and ask you significant questions(which I still have yet to recieve answers for) you simply deleted me from your page and erased all my comments . Sounds like something that would happen in 1984 to me.

My comments are getting deleted here as well. That kind of behavior parallels that of the very people who are attempting to cover up 9/11.

Here's a brain-teaser for all you conspiracy buffs;

why does Nico and his science-fiction research always inevitably end up drowning out any serious discussions here?

connect the dots.

even if you were to believe Nico's research was legitimate - the fact that it is continually used to drown out ANY discussions on any OTHER topics indicates to me that it is a disruption tool.

I don't know who Nico is?

nico doesn't drown anybody out, and at least he is doing research (which also doesn't drown anybody out). if you are so easily distracted then perhaps you should take a break.
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Perhaps you two/three people should stop derailing threads with your no plane mumbo jumbo.

his science-fiction research always inevitably end up drowning out any serious discussions here?

is it a serious discussion when it is deemed to be not important to uncover what/how/when the wtc planes were?
because that's what happens around here.
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perhaps you millions of people should figure out what's up with the planes instead of ignoring them as if they weren't the basis for the entire 911 fairytale.
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You'll never prove your bogus no plane theory BS so give it up!

To the 9-11 newbies:

People like James Ha and Nico Haupt do not care about the truth. They only care about spreading their selfish no plane tv fakery BS! They do this because they are most likely paid off by the 9-11 criminals to post on blogs like 911Blogger.com and others in an effort to turn people like you off and to try to make you think that we're all insane. Well we're not. I'd say that 99 percent of the people in the 9-11 truth movement do not subscribe to the 'no plane' BS. Disinfo agents/shills are very real and the 'no planers' are living proof of that, so don't fall for their 9-11 'fakery'.

You'll never prove your bogus no plane theory BS so give it up!

the whole basis of 911 is 4 boeings were highjacked and 3 of them flown into buildings. i don't see a boeing at the pentagon. i don't see a boeing at the shanksville crater. i don't see a boeing at wtc1 either. (do see one?) what we DO see are various images of a boeing-like plane that contradict each other and behaving in an un-plane-like manner at wtc2.
you say we don't want the truth but i say we do and that YOU are either the dis-info or only want 1/2 the truth.
prove that there were planes and i will be glad to shut up.
until then blow me.
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to the 911 newbies:
investigate. find out for yourselves. see what is going on. don't settle for 1/2 truths, lies or distractions.
http://reopen911.org/
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Anyone perpetuating a no plane theory has lost it. Please recognize that anyone suggesting the no plane theory is complete disinfo.

stop now

anyone who believes that big metal machines can fly like birds is mad!

It's not a legitmate concern. It's an irrelevant concern with ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF. Therefore there is no point wasting time in discussing it. Putting emphasis on no plane theories that lack FACTS only discredits the true aspects of the conspiracy. ANYONE who persist on focusing on it is A DISINFO AGENT. James is a perfect example. Notice how James has NO FACTS, just CLAIMS and INSULTS. Disinfo agents always use insults.

By the way everyone MORGAN REYNOLDS is a disinfo agent as well. He was had articles on his site perpetuating this no plane nonsense. This shouldn't be a surprise though, seeing how was a part of Bush's administration and all.

Notice how James has NO FACTS, just CLAIMS and INSULTS

i didn't insult you i merely suggested that you blow me.
no facts? right. look at the images of 175 as they hit wtc2. the images speak for themselves. in fact i would like to see some factual proof that ua175 hit wtc2.
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Show me some facts that it didn't.

What a bunch of fruitcakes. Sorry to be a troll, but I just had to say, that just about every single one of you likely has dropped one too many tabs of acid.

Please, open up a nice can of reality and wake up.

jenn,

do me a favor and read a few books on 9/11, saudi ties, the pakistani ISI, and get back with us.

or dont, ignorance can be quite blissful.

I really cannot believe that so many people believe in a 911 conspiracy. What a sad commentary on our society, so so sad. I know you will say that if so many people believe it there must be something to it. Not true, there are more than 40 people I know of for sure, because I was one of the 40, that were hired independent of a major news org. to investigate these allegations, none of which passed muster. Failure was mainly due to lack of proper credentials of the so called experts, statements taken out of context, misuse of technical data and even outright misuse and manipulation of scientific sources, failure made our group disband 2 weeks into the project. Disaster response issues were found credible only in as far as lack of planning for a mega-disaster, but still nothing even remotely criminal.

Dear Shaun-
It is sad, so so sad, that you have been reduced to writing lies, for some reason that I can't even fathom, to a 9-11 blog. Come on, Shaun. You don't even write decent English. And you're telling us that you were hired by a major news organization to fact-check 9-11 conspiracy claims? In my world, when a major news organization hires 40 people (!) for two weeks (!)to fact-check a story that a significant number of Americans has been shown to believe, and when they find that the story is untrue, they call that NEWS. They paid for it, it is relevant to a lot of their readers, and they run with it as a great debunking story. Then they get even more attention, and money, by openly debating the people who spend time on forums like this one. Not that I believe you for one second, but can you please tell me why your major news organization buried this one? Don't they owe it to America (not to mention their stockholders) to publicly set the record straight by publicizing this definitive research?