Wisconsin NBC Affiliate to Discuss 9/11 Tonight at 10PM
dz Wed, 07/12/2006 - 1:38am
I got a heads up earlier today that WTMJ-TV in Milwaukee, Wisconsin will be discussing 9/11 tonight at 10PM.
From what I can tell the segment will focus on an interview they did at the end of last month with Kevin Barrett as well as two specific topics: explosives in the World Trade Center, and the Bin Laden 'confession tape'.
If anyone is in the range to record this show please do so, and please submit it to us via the 'submit news' link on the left panel.
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In regards to the "Fake"
In regards to the "Fake" Osama tape... I don't know if it is fake or not. I do know, however, that it looked fake enough for the President Of The United States to be asked about it.
His response...
"It is preposterous for anybody to think that this tape is doctored", and "That's just a feeble excuse to provide weak support for an incredibly evil man."
i wish i knew the reporter
i wish i knew the reporter with the common sense and bravery that asked that question.
people should be aware of
people should be aware of the following counter arguement:
http://www.911myths.com/html/fake_video.html
this doesnt change anything regarding the conflicts in the translation however, which we recently posted an article on.. unfortunately i dont have the link handy right now.
So this would be another
So this would be another morsel of shit hitting the fan, I guess.
As long as they provide the
As long as they provide the video on their main page, I'll send it to you in a .mov QuickTime file -- unless someone else sends it.
Do you know what time it's suppose to be broadcast at?
"It is preposterous for
"It is preposterous for anybody to think that I've ever opened my mouth for years now without lying, lying, lying and lying even more."
---GWB, hypothetical comment
Rather, as long as they
Rather, as long as they provide the video on their website; it doesn't necessarily need to be on the main page lol
anybody snag the msnbc 911
anybody snag the msnbc 911 debate this afternoon?
no thread on the Tucker
no thread on the Tucker Carlson slandering of Kevin Barrett? did anybody tape it?
yes dz, everyone should
yes dz, everyone should dissect everything on 911myths. I'm betting that sites like this will one day accidentally provide even more evidence to support alternative theories.
I knew about the gold ring thing but I didn't know the details about how they might write with one hand and wipe themselves with the other. lol It could all be bs of course, but who knows. The point is, after reviewing what they wrote, I am now even more convinced the tape is a fake. Unless of course, bin laden got some kind of nose job specially done for that video. I mean, it's totally obvious... it's almost as if they think people are too stupid to actually watch 2 bin laden videos and see for themselves!
yeah iconoclast, they
yeah iconoclast, they basically try to say "the tape is fuzzy, therefor thats why people think he looks fatter and different". nice argument 9/11myths.com. try again.
Loud Studios is Loose Change
Loud Studios is Loose Change right? if so, ive been trying to ask, did you guys have to give permission to Ministry(Al Jourgenson) to use clips of Loose Change on their latest album?
lying, lying, lying and
lying, lying, lying and lying
Reminds me of so many songs;
http://home.comcast.net/~yikesmcgee/theliar.mp3
http://www.nothingbutalie.com/mp3/NothingButALie-Male.mp3
http://www.nothingbutalie.com/mp3/NothingButALie-Female.mp3
Warhead http://youtube.com/watch?v=LKMelaRKhH0
...etc.
The other argument is after
The other argument is after almost EVERY "terrorist attack" before and since 9/11, the people "responsible" have always come forward to take credit within days. Why did Osama deny it, why did the Taliban deny it, and why did it take Osama so long to finally admit to it?
It is said that before 9/11, Osama Bin Laden was going to mosques, and telling people about the attacks to come.
Now, it is also said that Osama was in a hospital in Pakistan the day before 9/11.
It is also said that Osama met with the CIA in July 2001 in an American Hospital in Dubai.
Was Osama told by the CIA to go start spreading rumors of an impending attack?
Was Osama somehow notified of an "attack" through "subordinates"? "Subordinates" who met with other "terrorists/intelligence officers" that were told of an impending attack?
Who knows. The bottom line is... if he was the "terrorist" responsible for the attacks, he certainly didn't play the part of the "terrorist" responsible for the attacks.
In regards to the "Fake"
In regards to the "Fake" Osama tape... I don't know if it is fake or not. I do know, however, that it looked fake enough for the President Of The United States to be asked about it.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.11.06 - 6:55 pm | #
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The question may have been a set-up so as to help perpetuate the Myth.
Where is the follow-up question: okay, when will the government be proving your claims with physical evidence, etc?
BTW, where is all that physical evidence today?
We still have many unanswered questions and would like very much to see if some of these can be answered with the remaining physical evidence.
DoesnÂ’t that physical evidence belong to us?
Since when does the government get to behave this way and not acquiesce to the reasonable requests of the general population?
This inappropriate and, as far as IÂ’m concerned, illegal behavior on the part of the government has to stop immediately.
FRANKV: you forget the best
FRANKV:
you forget the best one of all:
"LIAR" by Henry Rollins:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AZPG1t8CXYc&search=rollins%20liar
Jon, I'm sure you also
Jon, I'm sure you also remember this article from Musad Enver:
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html
In the months leading up to the Septmber 11, 2001 attack, it is reported, the Taliban "outlined various ways bin Laden could be dealt with. He could be turned over to the EU, killed by the Taliban, or made available as a target for Cruise missiles." The Bush administration did not accept the Taliban's offer.
"On September 20, 2001," according to the Guardian, "the Taliban offered to hand Osama bin Laden to a neutral Islamic country for trial if the US presented them with evidence that he was responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington. The US rejected the offer."
Come on you boy child, you
Come on you boy child, you winner and loser, come on you miner for truth and delusion, and shine!
rip Syd Barrett
Hit Movie Director Slams
Hit Movie Director Slams Bush Administration
Linklater says Hollywood stars, including Bruce Willis, having political paradigms changed by 9/11 conspiracy documentaries
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | July 12 2006
Acclaimed writer-director Richard Linklater, currently riding high on the favorable reception of A Scanner Darkly and best known for his 2003 production School of Rock, has publicly slammed George W. Bush as a "Yalely frat boy" who is in over his head and more corrupt than Richard Nixon.
Linklater also says that his efforts to disseminate documentaries which point the finger at the US government for involvement in 9/11 have changed paradigms for several A-list Hollywood stars - including Bruce Willis.
During a nationally syndicated radio interview, Linklater told host Alex Jones that the actions of the Bush administration were, "The most extreme I've seen in my lifetime - in American history - this kind of executive branch grab of power is so unprecedented - it's frightening."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/120706moviedirector.htm
Yes YCD... I remember.
Yes YCD... I remember.
Bruce Willis was always a
Bruce Willis was always a major tool of the right. this is surprising.
"I'm American, our names
"I'm American, our names don't mean shit" - Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction
Linklater said he had handed
Linklater said he had handed out DVD's on set which carried claims that 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government to erect a police state to Bruce Willis, one of the stars of Linklater's upcoming Fast Food Nation.
"He said it put him in such a head space that he will be quiet on issues of national policy."
Linklater said Willis had told him in an e mail that the videos had changed his entire political paradigm.
i gotta say, i regularly bash Bruce Willis for his painfully simplistic politcal views, but i gotta give the guy credit for watching the films and not rejecting them out of hand.
Remember this? legendary
Remember this?
legendary Afghan guerrilla commander Ahmad Shah Masood may have been killed two days before the September 11 attacks because he had learned something about bin Laden's plan and "began to warn the West."
Or this...
Osama bin Laden and the Taliban received threats of possible American military strikes against them two months before the terrorist assaults on New York and Washington, which were allegedly masterminded by the Saudi-born fundamentalist, a Guardian investigation has established.
yes, i remember when the CIA
yes, i remember when the CIA killed Masood so they could get Hamid "Unocal" Karzai in place as president.
Hamid? Hamid Karzai? Who's
Hamid? Hamid Karzai? Who's brother is linked to Drug Lords?
We need someone like Sheen
We need someone like Sheen or Willis to bankroll one of these documentaries. Speaking of which, is Loose Change getting some backing? I always wonder how these guys are getting the cash to pimp their stuff.
DHS, LOL, that Rollins video
DHS, LOL, that Rollins video is wild. Ya gotta give it a minute (chuckle)! Don't miss Warhead! Here's a moody on-topic Otep wallpaper
http://www.otep.com/images/art/advance_back.jpg
Interview with Bruce "I'm
Interview with Bruce "I'm angry" Willis, March 13, 2006
http://www.cinecon.com/news.php?id=0603013
Hamid? Hamid Karzai? Who's
Hamid? Hamid Karzai? Who's brother is linked to Drug Lords?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.11.06 - 8:02 pm | #
hahaha, yep, the same Hamid Karzai who sat on the board of directors of UNOCAL.(the heroin business is BOOMING since we invaded Afghanistan) it would be hilarious if it wasnt so damaging and sad.....
You have to think at least
You have to think at least one of these freaking generals who want Rummy gone knows what went down at the Pentagon on 9/11. THAT is the type of truth we need.
WTC 9/11 - 116
WTC 9/11 - 116 files
http://www.areadownload.com/video/wtc.htm
fyi, loud studios is
fyi, loud studios is stoplying.ca, the loose change group is louder than words.
"fyi, loud studios is
"fyi, loud studios is stoplying.ca, the loose change group is louder than words."
Who is Anonymous and Anonymous?
oh shit, thanks dz.
oh shit, thanks dz.
Aids HIV Bayer MSNBC | July
Aids HIV Bayer
MSNBC | July 12 2006
This clip from Scarborough Country highlights how Bayer knowingly dumped medicine that was known to be contaminated with AIDS virus on the European market after it killed people in America.
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/120706Bayer.htm
how is this not a bigger story?
oh wait, im a 9/11 activist,
oh wait, im a 9/11 activist, as if i even have to ask that.
Chicago Subway Derailment
Chicago Subway Derailment Sends At Least 100 To Hospitals
Is it me, or is Chicago getting a lot of attention lately?
O'Reilly slammed Kevin
O'Reilly slammed Kevin tonight in the no spin zone.
Kevin is better arguing when he's there.
Bill is a coward.
what a fucking coward. this
what a fucking coward. this is a good sign though. the fact that these rightwing toolbags cant ignore us anymore.
http://911conspiracysmasher.b
http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/2006/07/jon-gold-wants-me-dead....
Sorry. It's obvious the only defense they have against us is to push us into saying something we probably shouldn't, and then use those words against us. That, and lying.
Feel free to go tell them what you think.
WTC 9/11 - 116
WTC 9/11 - 116 files
http://www.areadownload.com/vide...m/video/ wtc.htm
Chris | Homepage | 07.11.06 - 8:21 pm | #
great link Chris, thanks. there was an FTP that had all these clips but it has been down for awhile.
Jon, you know what i said
Jon, you know what i said about giving those trolls website hits!
did you guys see
did you guys see this?
Linklater said he had handed out DVD's on set which carried claims that 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government to erect a police state to Bruce Willis, one of the stars of Linklater's upcoming Fast Food Nation.
"He said it put him in such a head space that he will be quiet on issues of national policy."
Linklater said Willis had told him in an e mail that the videos had changed his entire political paradigm.
"Bruce is a pretty thinking radical kind of guy," said Linklater.
yeah, i got lucky finding
yeah, i got lucky finding that one.
actually someone from this forum dropped it on me:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3043#comments
the moderator and i have a disagreement as to which is more important. vote fraud(important) or 9/11(obviously more important). help me convince him its 9/11.(BradBlog has posted 9/11 truth type stories before, with a little nudge, he will again. get your asses over there.)
"Jon, you know what i said
"Jon, you know what i said about giving those trolls website hits!"
I was hoping some here would go back me up a bit... anywho...
yes allen, i believe its
yes allen, i believe its right above you.
i played that game once Jon,
i played that game once Jon, they aint worth it to me.i honestly dont wanna give them anymore hits. i feel dirty after going on that site.haha.
Chicago train
Chicago train derailment
Boston big dig collapse
NYC explosion and fire cause building collapse
Strange week already...
The official story preys
The official story preys voraciously on the stupidity and ignorance of the American people.
Not only that, but the fraudulent science and outright fallacies contained withing the 9/11 "official story" seem to be fostering an even greater level of stupidity and ignorance in those who believe it.
Stupidity and 9/11...a vicious circle.
Instapundit links to Kevin
Instapundit links to Kevin Barrett article........
http://instapundit.com/archives/031371.php
I apologize for giving them
I apologize for giving them anything.
11 July 2006 (TODAY) Debate:
11 July 2006 (TODAY)
Debate: Ron Rattner for 9/11 Truth vs.
Steve Nass, Republican, WI on "Dayside",
MSNBC, 2-3 PM/ET (1-2 PM/CT)
this is what we need in every city.....
anyone watch or tape it?
OT: Y'al seen this yet...too
OT: Y'al seen this yet...too funny?
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/120706Drinking.htm
any bittorrent
any bittorrent users:
http://isohunt.com/dl.php?id=8567560
haven't looked yet but it claims to be 8000 photos of WTC 9/11
that would mean each picture is about 100kb each, being that the RAR file is about 180MB
I always liked Bruce Willis.
I always liked Bruce Willis. Democrats and some 9/11 Truthers bash all conservatives and Republicans, but there's a lot on our side. The Bush regime has soured EVERYONE. Anyways, Linklater's comments about Willis definately were a surprise to me.
As for the "fake Osama tape", I always thought it really was him and always wondered why people focused on that. Its him, but the translation may be off or dubbed.
And again, I could not be more proud of Vanity Fair for making such a great and fair article on 9/11 Truth and Loose Change.
everybody (especially 9/11
everybody (especially 9/11 newbies) please see here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475276/board/thread/47836161
For those not registered with IMDB, I will paste below:
by - dquirey 1 day ago (Mon Jul 10 2006 09:26:37)
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UPDATED Tue Jul 11 2006 07:49:04
Al Qaeda Strike at least once a year. Could tomorrow be the next?
They have hit every nation on their list. There was just two nations left. (England and Italy) Last year July 6th, England was glorified for winning the 2012 Olympics bid (Beating France who were second). The next day the attacks came.
This year July 9th Italy was glorified for winning the World Cup (Beating France who came second). If you skip a day for the Terrorists to put things in motion then there could be an attack against Italy or an ally on the (11th).
Al Qaeda have a strange fasincation with the number 11 and 12
Oct 12th 2000 - USS Cole Attack
Sep 11th 2001 - USA Attack
Oct 12th 2002 - Bali Attack
May 12th 2003 - Riyadh Attack
Mar 11th 2004 - Madrid Attack
Jul 7th 2005 - London Attack - Could have been planned for the 11th but as London won the big bid to host the games, they brought it forward.
ALSO it will be around 1776 days since Sept 11th 2001 on the 17th July 2006 i.e. 17/7/6
An ideal opportunity for the Terrorists to Attack!!!
CB: forgot the jordan hotel
CB:
forgot the jordan hotel attack of 11/9/05
or 9/11/05 if u live in
or 9/11/05 if u live in jordan
http://valis.gnn.tv/blogs/135
http://valis.gnn.tv/blogs/13506/MINISTRY_tackles_9_11_Lieslieslies
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Loud Studios is Loose Change right? if so, ive been trying to ask, did you guys have to give permission to Ministry(Al Jourgenson) to use clips of Loose Change on their latest album?
Chris | Homepage | 07.11.06 - 7:30 pm | #
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Ministry -
Ministry - Lieslieslies
(unofficial lyrics)
“Gentlemen, we have called you together to inform you that we are going to overthrow the United States Government”
(Sample of Dylan Avery, pitch-shifted lower, from his documentary entitled “Loose Change”. Avery quotes General Carl W. Stiener, the former Commander-in-chief of US Special Ops during a demonstration of Los Alamos Laboratory’s text-to-speech software)
“Do you still think that jet fuel brought down the World Trade Center?”
(Sample of Dylan Avery, Â…)
“Does anybody else see a problem here?”
(Sample of Dylan Avery, Â…)
“If the government has nothing to hide, then why are they so afraid to answer a few questions?”
(Sample of Dylan Avery, Â…)
“This story does not add up”
(Sample of Dylan Avery, Â…)
WeÂ’re on a mission to never forget
Three thousand people, that IÂ’ve never met
We want some answers, and all that we getÂ…
Some kind of shit about a terrorist threat
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies
Surprise surprise!
Lies Lies
WeÂ’re on a mission to dig up the truth
[?] and thereÂ’s no proof
But let me tell you that the time has come
To pull the trigger on the smoking gun
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies
Surprise surprise!
Lies Lies Lies Lies
DonÂ’t listen to it, listen to your pain
DonÂ’t listen to anything they say
DonÂ’t listen
Lies Lies Lies Lies
“America has been hijacked, not by Al Qaeda, not by Bin Laden, but by a group of tyrants…that should be of great concern to all Americans.”
(Sample of Dylan Avery, Â…)
WeÂ’re on a mission to bring out the facts
You got your stories but they all have cracks
This information lies in deceit
What made you think we were all asleep?
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies
Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies Lies
Surprise surprise!
Lies Lies Lies Lies
DonÂ’t listen to it, listen to your pain
DonÂ’t listen to anything they say
DonÂ’t listen
Lies Lies Lies Lies
O'Reilly's vicious, lying
O'Reilly's vicious, lying slander of Kevin in absentia used confused wording to imply that KB was making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Check it out at the second showing tonight and verify that impression.
"Ministry -
"Ministry - Lieslieslies"
WOW! Okay, catch me up: is this a song that Ministry already has out on a CD or is working on?????
Tonya: already
Tonya:
already out...
youtube it.
COOL!
COOL!
Does anyone have a link to
Does anyone have a link to the "fatty" Bin Laden "confession" video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXIVoKrn9uQ
jj111- it exists (in a
jj111- it exists (in a crappy resolution) at NPR- unedited (one hour long).
Subpar though the video is, that is the best version I've found online so far. I wish a broadcast version were available somewhere... (Is it in Loose Change2?)
jj: http://tyrannyalert.com/v
jj:
http://tyrannyalert.com/video.htm
or more specifically...
http://tyrannyalert.com/Osama.mpg
like i said in another thread there are other photos of him wearing a watch and a ring, video too.
but i find it funny when
but i find it funny when fetzer says fbi admits no hard evidence and all oliver north can say is "well he admitted it; we didn't manufacture the tape."
http://tyrannyalert.com/FetzerHannityColmes20060622.wmv
just watched the Ministry
just watched the Ministry video---wow!
what lies at the heart of
what lies at the heart of 911?
what is the very core of 911?
what was the excuse for the destruction of afghanistan and iraq, and the endless bushco war of terror?
that 4 planes were highjacked, 3 of which were flown into buildings.
stop ignoring the planes as if they weren't the basis of the entire 911.
a critique of the complete official version of the south tower hit
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James, there's a hell of a
James, there's a hell of a lot more to 9/11 truth than a cartoon hitting the south tower. You are like a broken record with this nonsense.
Notice how no planers STICK
Notice how no planers STICK to obsessing over no planes, and 9/11 truth bashers STICK to one liner ad hominem "youre all crazy" attacks? To me they seem one and the same.
I'm a musician and I asked
I'm a musician and I asked Dylan if I could use some samples on my new cd, he said that would be no problem at all, unfortunetly I never used the sound. But I did add some other stuff
www.myspace.com/davecahill
www.davecahill.com
The cd is called The Huddled Masses itll be out July 18th.
http://www.tmj4.com/VideoPlay
http://www.tmj4.com/VideoPlayer/ASX/071106_spas_conspiracy.asx
James, there's a hell of a
James, there's a hell of a lot more to 9/11 truth than a cartoon hitting the south tower. You are like a broken record with this nonsense.
oh does your movement hurt?
so what? at least i'm speaking out and using my real name - what are you up to? what are you talking about?
i spend as much time with janedoe'sBilliardBalls as i do with ghostgun UA175.
stop dogging me man, i don't care if your movement hurts or not.
__________-
here you go - try to find a
here you go - try to find a plane:
HUNT THE BOEING pentagon
HUNT THE BOEING shanksville
use your damn noodles for once.
__________--
911 was about the planes
911 was about the planes whether you can see them or not and it is the planes or the lack thereof that will ultimately be the undoing of the fairytale.
__________--
and furthermore; click my
and furthermore; click my name!
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greetings- first time
greetings-
first time visiting. ive recently decided to look into what the internet has to offer on this topic and i am amazed.
indeed tonights wtmj report on mr. barrett included heavy editorializing... the reporter package mentioned only two pieces of evidence on this topic and in a matter of words called the evidence scant and treated the 'conspiracy' as a joke.
i've played close attention to this development with the uw professor. he first appeared on conservative talk radio, on a show with a woman whose husband, a conservative, is running for state office. her outrage transpired into newspaper coverage and then a uw investigation.
im not saying that i think this is censorship, im saying what you all are saying and that is a great deal of media is destroying this topic. it is considered a credibility nightmare to give any serious consideration to a 'freakish conspiracy.' glad to see people are willing to organize and call for a change when the media is too afraid to.