Robert Bowman Tonight on Hannity and Colmes - Open Thread

Update, the Robert Bowman broadcast is available here:


http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=138
(26 MB AVI | 21 MB MP4)

You know, I think this is the first time that I have seen a former military man on the Hannity & Colmes show where Hannity didn't make sure to mention his honorable service. So, since he didn't mention it, here is a brief bio on Bowman:

Dr. Robert M. Bowman is President of the Institute for Space and Security Studies, Executive Vice President of Millennium III Corporation, and Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church. The recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President's Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Republic Aviation Airpower Award, The Society of American Military Engineers' Gold Medal (twice), the Air Medal with five oak leaf clusters, and numerous other awards, he is one of the country's foremost authorities on national security.

Until July, 1982, he was a Vice President of Space Communications Company. Before that, Dr. Bowman was Manager, Advanced Space Programs at General Dynamics, responsible for the communications spacecraft product line. Culminating a 22-year Air Force career in 1978, Col. Bowman was Director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the Air Force Space Division. In that capacity, he controlled about half a billion dollars worth of space programs, including the "Star Wars" programs, the existence of which was (at that time) secret. Dr. Bowman taught at five colleges and universities, serving as Associate Professor, Department Head, and Assistant Dean. From 1971 to 1974, Dr. Bowman was responsible for Air Force and NASA contracts in Europe, Africa, the Middle East, and Southern Asia. In 1969 and 1970, Col. Bowman flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is active in national and international professional societies and chaired eight major conferences. His PhD is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. Dr. Bowman has lectured at the National War College, the United Nations, Congressional Caucuses, the Academies of Science of six nations, and the House of Lords. He has appeared on McNeil-Lehrer, ABC News, the Larry King Show, Donohue, and Firing Line. He has hosted radio talk shows in New York, Rhode Island, and Florida.

read more here..

Apparently tonight was the night for Hannity to give someone with 10x the relative experience a lecture, almost as though he has some sort of superiority complex, but I digress. This was just another one of those great shows where a talking head calls in an expert, and proceeds to lecture them, while providing the audience no ability to hear what the guest actually has to say.

Congrats to Dr. Bowman for getting on the show, and doing a good job considering the setup.

Thanks to Reprehensor for the quick rip!

Is Bowman still running as a

Is Bowman still running as a Democrat? Not a big fan of that decision or the two Party system. I would trust him a lot more if he was running as an independent.

Here's a radio show that discusses Bowman's involvement w/ the Democratic Party:

Jonathan Conoley - Phase One: 911 American Scholars Symposium Update! And a Live debate on the Democratic takeover of the 911 truth movement.

openseason_2006-06-26.mp3
http://revereradio.net/openseason/June/openseason_2006-06-26.mp3

Anyway, this is way off topic -- didn't know where else to post it but...

Here's a new interview with Pentagon witness (or so he says) Sam Danner. According to him, whatever hit the building was definitely not a 757. I've stated before that I think the Pentagon debate is useless, since the ptb can produce a video of a 757 anytime they want (real or not), but I still think this man's story should be heard. He sounds very credible to me:

Tue., July 11, 2006:
Michael Collins Piper and Christopher Bollyn welcome back 9/11 eye witness, Sam Danner for another outstanding hour of conversation.

M3U stream
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper/0607/20060711_Tue_Piper.m3u
RAM stream
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper/0607/20060711_Tue_Piper.ram
MP3
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper/0607/20060711_Tue_Piper.mp3

The above interview is the 2nd one that Michael Collins Piper did with Sam Danner. The 1st interview aired the day before (Mon., July 10, 2006). That show can be found on RBN's archive page here:
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper06.html

FYI, John Stadtmiller announced on his show today that Christopher Bollyn will have his own show on RBN every Friday from 12am-2pm EST. beginning this Friday. YAY!

(btw, I'm not attempting to start a whole "Pentagon-No757-Missile-Debate" by posting the Sam Danner interview. Sorry in advance if that happens)

Bowman will blow Hannity to

Bowman will blow Hannity to outer space, where he belongs

Bowman is the man.

Bowman is the man.

GW... did you get my email?

GW... did you get my email?

I'm taping this by the way.

I'm taping this by the way. I just got Bill O'Reilly who slapped Kevin.

Its on. Don't look like I'm

Its on. Don't look like I'm getting any sleep tonight...

Ollie is on again!!!!

Ollie is on again!!!!

Bill O'Reilly showed an

Bill O'Reilly showed an email from someone who said Kevin Barrett should have his chance to voice his opinion, and O'Reilly said he did the other night on H&C, and he "had nothing".

Hmmm ... Why do you think

Hmmm ... Why do you think Fox is putting these guys on air? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they're getting MSN coverage, but it seems kinda wierd considering Fox's record.

this is great! i'll be

this is great! i'll be recording it if we need it.

by the way, I've finished my first Jon Gold inspired "9/11 Street" question.

here's the link:
http://www.transafixion.com/uploads/911street.avi

let me know if there's any problems with it.

I think my site is being

I think my site is being hacked. I don't know... they told me it was up, that they enhanced the server it was on, etc... and it was running great... for like 15 minutes, and now it's down again.

C'mon Dr. Bowman... no whammy no whammy no whammy no whammy no whammy...

REGARDING THE JET

REGARDING THE JET FUEL...

THE PLANES WERE NOT FULLY LOADED WITH JET FUEL!

They just had enough Jet Fuel to get across the country.

That is not a "FULLY LOADED PLANE"

"this is great! i'll be

"this is great! i'll be recording it if we need it.

by the way, I've finished my first Jon Gold inspired "9/11 Street" question.

here's the link:
http://www.transafixion.com/uplo...s/ 911street.avi

let me know if there's any problems with it."

That's awesome man... that's really awesome.

Dr. Robert Bowman

Ian C... aside from the fact

Ian C... aside from the fact that it's .avi, and I can't play it... it's great!

Seriously man... that made me feel good at a time when I was down. Thanks.

Jon, when did you send the

Jon, when did you send the email?

P.S. Bowman is the man.

Hey Ian C, that link doesn't

Hey Ian C, that link doesn't appear to be working, you didn't host it on Jon's site did you?

haha, just kidding Jon.

Ian C... aside from the fact

Ian C... aside from the fact that it's .avi, and I can't play it... it's great!

Seriously man... that made me feel good at a time when I was down. Thanks.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.12.06 - 9:17 pm | #

i'm glad to lift you up a little bit man. you've been a big inspiration for me to get out and be active.

i'm uploading a .mov file right now, so you should be in the clear.

alright...here we go.

alright...here we go.

http://www.transafixion.com/uploads/911_clips/

i have both a .avi and .mov

of course, you know, this

"Jon, when did you send the

"Jon, when did you send the email?

P.S. Bowman is the man."

Yesterday, subject, "I Apologize"...

i just tuned in, has bowman

i just tuned in, has bowman been on yet?

Ian C... thanks man. You

Ian C... thanks man. You made me cry. Last time that happened was when someone in Oregon took my idea about signs on overpasses, and took a picture of it, and posted it on www.911visibility.org

And wow man... you got the

And wow man... you got the father of a Marine? That's incredible.

Ian C -- great job. What

Ian C -- great job. What part of the country are you in?

"That would've been too complicated for Bush" LMAO

Nice to get the older man's perspective. (With age comes wisdom, apparently.)

And wow man... you got the

And wow man... you got the father of a Marine? That's incredible.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.12.06 - 9:28 pm | #

yeah...i couldn't believe it.

it's really amazing what happens when you just go out and try.

I don't see any Bowman

I don't see any Bowman mentions at all on the show. Was he on at the very beginning of the show?

"it's really amazing what

"it's really amazing what happens when you just go out and try."

:)

"I don't see any Bowman

"I don't see any Bowman mentions at all on the show. Was he on at the very beginning of the show?"

They mentioned it at the beginning.

Bowman 201 - Music for

What part of the country are

What part of the country are you in?

casseia | 07.12.06 - 9:29 pm | #

that was at the Camarillo Outlets here in California.

Grrr -- I have to leave the

Grrr -- I have to leave the house now. I'm going to miss it.

Thanks Ian C -- that's what I thought. (I'm in Portland.)

Something fishy seems to be

Something fishy seems to be going on at the FOX/RNC Network. They're just a bit too eager to have 9/11 Truth activists on as guests these days. Either they are trying to save face after their two previous disasters at the hands of Fetzer and Barrett, and so they are determined not to quit until they have thoroughly discredited at least one 9/11 Truth guest (however, they are definitely going in the wrong direction if they want to pick on someone who is an easy target); or else they know something we don't and are trying to set the movement up for a fall.

For instance, maybe they will soon be releasing that long expected doctored Pentagon video. Or, as has just occurred to me, maybe they are going to start hyping endlessly the "danger" of the 9/11 Truth Movement to "the Homeland" (ie. "Fatherland"), so they can pass a law banning it and prosecuting anyone who promotes it as being in league with the "terrorists."

Of course, it's also possible that they have simply become fascinated by the evidence and just don't want to admit it to anyone, including themselves. I speculate on this because their guests are getting more impressive (former head of Star Wars is certainly no small fry), not less impressive. I know it is unrealistic to think such thoughts, but, I thought I would throw it in in the interest of fairness.

Or maybe Bowman just called them up, and they couldn't resist having such a distinguished guest.

Or he has been an administration spy all along, and he is going to "rat" on us... Nah! I never said that!

See what happens to good guys like me (IMHO ;-) when evil people (Hannity and his masters) appear to be holding out an olive branch? It makes us paranoid. ;-)

by the way, I've finished my

by the way, I've finished my first Jon Gold inspired "9/11 Street" question.

here's the link:
http://www.transafixion.com/uplo...s/ 911street.avi

let me know if there's any problems with it.
Ian C | Homepage | 07.12.06 - 9:11 pm | #
oh my god. was that chick serious at the beggining? Iraq was behind 9/11? what a dumb bitch..........

beginning*

beginning*

From the monthly periodical,

From the monthly periodical, "The Sun" in an interview with Richard Heinberg regarding peak oil, the interviewer asks, "You have proposed a connection between the 9/11 terrorist attacks and U.S. attempts to control petroleum resources". Heinbert responds, "We know, from internal discussions that were recorded at the time and have since been made public, that before 9/11 there was already a desire and intention on the part of this adminstration to invade Iraq. They needed a pretext, and 9/11 provided one. I personally feel that the events of 9/11 have not been properly investigated or explained by the government. I don't know whether there was actual complicity by members of the U.S. government in those events, or whether they were aware of the impending attacks and permitted them to happen, or what really went on that day. But I think anyone who believes the offical government story should do a little deeper digging".

This is in the July issue. The link to their website is here: http://www.thesunmagazine.org/

They only offer a part of the article but the above quote is in the full article published in the magazine.

I don't if this is worthy to be posted on this blog, but if so, someone plese do so.

seriously Ian, i give you

seriously Ian, i give you credit for not shaking that bitch.

"oh my god. was that chick

"oh my god. was that chick serious at the beggining? Iraq was behind 9/11? what a dumb bitch.........."

Yeah, it's bad out there. Too many are all dumbed down.

I just updated the "door to

I just updated the "door to door" podcast with the latest episode.

You can see it here:

http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=132

Thanks Ian!

"what a dumb

"what a dumb bitch.........."

If your life revolved around American Idol, and partying, and meeting boys, what would you think her answer would be?

This is a job for the adults of America.

Really nice job Ian! Jon -

Really nice job Ian!

Jon - Ian is a perfect example as to why you can't stop posting...ever! You're too inspiring and needed.

I don't know guys, they may

I don't know guys, they may have "pulled it". At the beginning of the show they mentioned "You'll never guess who agrees with him", now they aren't saying anything like that.

They might do a quick little 2 minute follow up and not bring on Robert.

They just mentioned it

They just mentioned it again... Which Hannity & Colmes are you guys watching?

"Really nice job Ian! Jon -

"Really nice job Ian!

Jon - Ian is a perfect example as to why you can't stop posting...ever! You're too inspiring and needed."

:) Thanks. I wish I could post on my site...

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

So much news to get out...

H&C also mentioned that

H&C also mentioned that Barrett has been ordered to not talk to the press anymore in a just now pre-commercial teaser.

-slaqqer

Wow can you believe they

Wow can you believe they replayed Kevin's Thermate comment!?!?

Bowman is on now!!!!

"what a dumb

"what a dumb bitch.........."

If your life revolved around American Idol, and partying, and meeting boys, what would you think her answer would be?

This is a job for the adults of America.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.12.06 - 9:50 pm | #
good point, but it still angers me.im only 23 and i see 9/11 for what it is.

BOWMAN STOLE MY LINE!!! THe

BOWMAN STOLE MY LINE!!!

THe Truth about 911 is that we don't know the truth!

"his conspiracy is far more

"his conspiracy is far more believable than yours"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, great qoute.

So far Bowman is weak...

So far Bowman is weak... Hannity is wiping the floor with him.

BOWMAN is backing

BOWMAN is backing down...

COME ON!

*"his conspiracy theory is

*"his conspiracy theory is far more believable than yours"

the evidence supports the

the evidence supports the alternative theory! GREAT!

i wish they would have given

i wish they would have given his credentials.

Bowman blowed!!!!!!! What

Bowman blowed!!!!!!! What the hell was that!?!?!?!

leave it to Hannity to make

leave it to Hannity to make it a "democrat" issue. fucking moron.

Chris: I'm 23 also, and it

Chris:

I'm 23 also, and it is the YOUTH of this country that will make this prevail, because WE are the ones going to have to deal with the AFTERMATH.

Wow... I thought Dr. Bowman

Wow... I thought Dr. Bowman started off poorly, then got better, and then backed down again. It seemed like he was nervous... very nervous... I don't know... he was overly trying to come across as someone who isn't crazy... moreso than I would.

DHS, if the majority of the

DHS, if the majority of the youth is like that dumbass bitch in Ians video, we are in serious trouble.

Not great, but he had a few

Not great, but he had a few good lines, regarding the the official story being a conspiracy and there is more evidence to support Barrett's theory than the official one.

He had time to talk, wish he got to some of the bigger topics, should have brought up WTC7.

It looks like he took a mild

It looks like he took a mild approach because he's running for office. Doesn't want to appear too crazy so that he can still be elected. We know he's much more passionate about his beliefs...let's just wait until he's elected and really gets this stuff talked about.

Right Chris. He should have

Right Chris. He should have been introduced as former head of Star Wars under Reagan. Bowman's focus was that we don't know the truth and there needs to be a new investigation. Didn't go so well Bob.

That was disappointing.

That was disappointing.

"Chris: I'm 23 also, and it

"Chris:

I'm 23 also, and it is the YOUTH of this country that will make this prevail, because WE are the ones going to have to deal with the AFTERMATH."

I'm not arguing with you... but 18-20 and 23 is different... really, it is... those girls couldn't have been over 20... Chris has been out in the "real world" for a little while, and sees what's going on...

I have always thought that 9/11 is the fight of the young, and single... but I would be EXTREMELY happy if some of the elder folks spoke up. The more knowledgeable.

Fox keeps giving us(9/11

Fox keeps giving us(9/11 truth movement) these 3 minute segments that give whoever the guest is just enough time to defend themselves. this is obviously by design. god forbid you give someone a couple of minutes to make a case.imagine Alex Jones on Hannity, even with 3 minutes he would verbally murder him.

:(

:(

can we please get Sean

can we please get Sean Hannity off of TV?

I now think, however, that

I now think, however, that it is everybody's fight.

Hannity is focusing this

Hannity is focusing this around the liberlal/democrat professor issue, tying it to the Ward Churchill thing. Alternate theories are just not acceptable - you're crazy... typical FOX

someone post a viddy

someone post a viddy please...

Colmes is now Agnostic too.

Colmes is now Agnostic too.

I wish Alex Jones was on

I wish Alex Jones was on Hannity, he would get his mic cut I bet.

Well, I haven't seen it

Well, I haven't seen it yet.
But at least you're all honest in your critique.

Had you been Freepers, the other guy, Hannity would ALWAYS be brilliant in your eyes.

I'd still like to see the video however.

Don't get too down on this,

Don't get too down on this, a year ago we would have killed for this sort of coverage, now that mainstream media focus has become so commonplace for us, we actually are getting picky.

We've come a long way. Hannity thinks he's got the upper hand now, maybe we can get David Ray Griffin on.

Should have a vid up soon...

Should have a vid up soon...

democratic takeover? how the

democratic takeover? how the fuck do you figure? McKinney is the only democrat with enough courage to question 9/11. and as far as 9/11 truthers go, i would guess there are almost as many republicans as democrats in the movement.politics doesnt mean much to the 9/11 truth movement, and thats how it should be.

Fuck the Democrats. They

Fuck the Democrats. They are one side of a coin. The other side of the coin are the Republicans.

The "Election Process" no longer works in this country, period. It appears not to work in any country the United States decides shouldn't have a democratic process.

These people need to go.

Corporate propaganda machine

Corporate propaganda machine is too much to overcome. :(

Maybe we need to focus exclusivley on net and door-to-door efforts instead of what media is going to do for us.

Either that or pack it in like Ruppert.

Yeah Colmes is also

Yeah Colmes is also Assnostic, as in the whereabout of his asshole is unknowable; especially in relation to the holes in his head.

Ok that was a stretch but Bowman pissed me off. That's all I got left!

Mike Malloy time

Mike Malloy time everyone...

http://www.airamerica.com/listen

-slaqqer

Oops. Meant to write:

Oops. Meant to write: Christopher Bollyn will have his own show on RBN every Friday from 12pm-2pm EST

fuck Ruppert.

fuck Ruppert.

come on Chris, he wasnt THAT

come on Chris, he wasnt THAT bad. its gotta be tough to only get 3 minutes to plead your case all while trying to defend yourself from Hannitys slander.

We've come a long way.

We've come a long way. Hannity thinks he's got the upper hand now, maybe we can get David Ray Griffin on.
somebigguy | Homepage | 07.12.06 - 10:10 pm | #

Griffin may not do all that well either in this kind of a forum these guys are professors, their used to speaking in front of large nonconfrontational audiences. We need someone like Ray Mcgovern that does well under pressure and speaks clearly and knowledgably. Buy the way were are all the X-military officers? Why dont they organize, you would think if anyone would be up in arms it would be the people that have been fighting for this country for their career. Shit... I'm pissed off tonight, I follow this stuff everyday, burn DVD's post signs write congress people, make a fucking ass out of myself in front of my coworkers and there are people in the know with influence and you dont here from them.....

i like how hannity tried to

i like how hannity tried to turn it into a "No plane into the towers" thing by saying "we saw the planes, there was no CD, then the buildings came down"

funny how he didnt mention the BUILDING THAT A PLANE DIDNT HIT!

fucker. Can't wait til our meeting tomorrow, Jon. Any DVDs you suggest I burn tonight? I pretty much have everything out there available.

One thought on why MSM may

One thought on why MSM may be taking on the 9/11 Truth. With all the very recent "terrorist" activity - FBI Miami, Sears tower, Canada, NY tunnel, India, etc, this may a chain of events leading up to another false-flag on US soil. They may figure they can take us on now and even if they fail the debate, another false flag op in the US will divert everyones attention away from 9/11 and onto the new month/date. I don't want to sound like a fear monger, but the election is drawing near and many may remember Ray McGoverns comments on the Alex Jones show.

you'd think with all this

you'd think with all this barrett shit that Keith O. would get involved... WTF MSNBC?

Keith Olbermann doesnt have

Keith Olbermann doesnt have a whole lot of control over his show. he is literally forced to do a segment on celebs every night.im not making excuses for him, he could bring some 9/11 truth into his show and he hasnt, but he doesnt have as much leeway with his show as most people on cable news.and Paul, im convinced another big false flag is coming soon.everything points to it, the stream of "terror arrests" and "terror threats" is a way for the elite and government to say - "see, the threat is real, and we stopped a bunch of attacks before they got this one through". the bullshit "terror threats" we have been beaten over the head with lately is a way of providing political cover.this shit is so obvious to me.

democratic takeover? how the

democratic takeover? how the fuck do you figure? McKinney is the only democrat with enough courage to question 9/11. and as far as 9/11 truthers go, i would guess there are almost as many republicans as democrats in the movement.politics doesnt mean much to the 9/11 truth movement, and thats how it should be.
Chris | Homepage | 07.12.06 - 10:10 pm | #

How the fuck do I figure??? Listen to the show, Chris. Conoley makes a lot of good points. And a lot of people in the "movement" are beginning to think that the dems are going to use 9-11 for their platform. I agree with that. Especially after the last Zogby poll. If that happens and you or anyone votes for the dems because you think their going to save us, you nucking futs!

http://revereradio.net/openseason/June/openseason_2006-06-26.mp3

sounds to me like its just a

sounds to me like its just a way of bashing democrats. the Dems will NEVER use 9/11 as a platform. NEVER. the dems are criminals just like the republicans, they may have a little bit less blood on their hands, but not by much.

i havent heard 1 person in

i havent heard 1 person in the "movement" say the Dems are gonna expose 9/11. clearly they wont. Mckinney and some other lone wolfs might try, but her own party abandoned her when she questioned 9/11.

Listen to the show, Chris

Listen to the show, Chris and get back to me...

Yea, Clinton either lihoped

Yea, Clinton either lihoped or mihoped the OKCity bombing, so don't count on the dem's to do anything.

imagine Alex Jones on

imagine Alex Jones on Hannity, even with 3 minutes he would verbally murder him.
Chris | Homepage | 07.12.06 - 10:05 pm | #

I agree and think a well coordinated effort might work.

911Blogger should seriously consider pushing for this!

why? will his infinite

why? will his infinite wisdom show me how evil the democrats are and how they are gonna hijack the movement? haha, just fucking with you, i gotta go try and sleep, i will listen to it tomorrow for sure though.

Kevin Barrett did give H&C a

Kevin Barrett did give H&C a pretty good smack down the other night. I guess we can't expect a homerun each time at bat.

I just watched the Bowman interview again. Its even more painful the second time around...

I feel woozy. I'm gonna go lay down and let Mike Malloy lullaby me to sleep.

Take me away Mike! Take me away!!!

hey SB (and anyone else that

hey SB (and anyone else that doesn't want to wait), i've got the clip uploaded. don't know if you already have it. here it is anyway

http://www.transafixion.com/uploads/911_clips/

Chris wrote: Dems will NEVER

Chris wrote: Dems will NEVER use 9/11 as a platform. NEVER. the dems are criminals just like the republicans, they may have a little bit less blood on their hands, but not by much.

So Chris, would you vote for a Democrat who says he's a "9-11 truther"?

YET ANOTHER DREADFUL

YET ANOTHER DREADFUL PERFORMANCE!!!
Despite the fact that these '9/11 Truth' interviews are an obvious ploy by the media to openly destroy the credability of both the individuals involved and the movement as a whole, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET A DECENT SPOKESPERSON????

Someone who is an expert at dealing with these soundbite situations, a proven public speaker who can articulate in a nutshell what we're about and what we're trying to do...why doesn't any of these guys prepare something like this - "Sean, you really should be careful what you say...the truth about 9/11 is growing like wildfire on a worldwide basis. Millions of people in the US and around the world are discovering and researchng the evidence and they're VERY ANGRY. We'd hate you to look ridiculously stupid!" - not the most soundbitey sentence, but you catch my drift...

Someone with the confidence and the savvy to think quick and hit hard, while remaining cool, calm, collected, polished and intelligent. i would volunteer, but seeing as I'm not a citizen - I don't think I'd last long.

Thoughts?

BTW - keep up the great work 911blogger.com - you are my lifeline.

Bowman's two main points

Bowman's two main points tonight:

1. The alternate version has more evidence than the official version

2. Americans should QUESTION what really happened


Any and every future person to go on MSM should mention that members of ST911 are eager to debate the actual issues! And mention the May 2006 Zogby poll to PROVE that almost half of the country are questioning the official story!

I think Bowman could use an

I think Bowman could use an experienced knowledgeable coach for his future media appearances regarding 9/11. If what he wants is a new investigation, then it is possible to make a much stronger case for that than he did in the 3 minutes allotted to him.

If you want to contact him, his campaign contact info is
Tel (321) 752-5955; cell (321) 258-0582
e-mail: Bowman2006@rmbowman.com

See, I'm almost 50, and I

See, I'm almost 50, and I thought Dr. Bowman did very well. He's obviously not used to Hannity's insanity, but where would a guy like Dr. Bowman ever have interfaced with a fuckwad like that before. From my perspective, he was too much a gentleman. Old guys like me respect that.

Hey I like Bowman's "The

Hey I like Bowman's "The truth about 9/11 is we don't know the truth about 9/11". Give the guy a break. I met this guy, he is a true patriot that is using his last few years on this planet to truly fight the good fight.

And Alex Jones, man...he would dessimate Hannity, O'Reilly, or anyone. Alex Jones is one of my biggest personal heroes. Today we talked about how the mainstream is finally coming out with the north american union, Dyncorp and Halliburton involved in massive sex slavery, Bayer being behind the AIDS crisis, etc.

Alex Jones, Kevin Barrett,

Alex Jones, Kevin Barrett, Jim Fetzer, and especially Michael Berger are fine spokespeople for soundbite-style TV, methinks. The other academics and military folk, Bowman, Steven Jones, Griffin, etc. are better in a slower, more focused setting, like a Charlie Rose or Bill Moyers respectful one-on-one interview (wouldn't that be great, now?). Everyone is saying the right things, but some fare better in some settings than others. Just my 2 cents.

" One thought on why

" One thought on why MSM may be taking on the 9/11 Truth. With all the very recent "terrorist" activity - FBI Miami, Sears tower, Canada, NY tunnel, India, etc, this may a chain of events leading up to another false-flag on US soil. They may figure they can take us on now and even if they fail the debate, another false flag op in the US will divert everyones attention away from 9/11 and onto the new month/date. I don't want to sound like a fear monger, but the election is drawing near and many may remember Ray McGoverns comments on the Alex Jones show."

That's a very scary thought.

So Chris, would you vote for

So Chris, would you vote for a Democrat who says he's a "9-11 truther"?
stallion4 | 07.12.06 - 10:31 pm | #
thats way too vague. it depends on what the person specifically said about 9/11.i feel like your trying to get me to play your little "see, you would fall for it" game, but thats bullshit. i have no faith in this government, i dont see much of a point in voting for anyone in this country.the argument that somehow democrats are going to embrace 9/11 truth(only to hijack and weaken the movement) to some degree is laughable to me though.too much complicity to ignore.i seriously gotta go sleep now though.

Can we get Webster Tarpley

Can we get Webster Tarpley on H&C?

"Old guys like me respect

"Old guys like me respect that."

Thank you. That makes sense to me.

Jon Gold: if you recorded

Jon Gold: if you recorded the entire show, watch and save all of the pre-commercial teaser comments.

-slaqqer

I have all of it. So does

I have all of it. So does Ian C. I think...

heh...... take a look at the

heh...... take a look at the number of article views:

http://forums.ibsys.com/viewtopics.cfm?sitekey=c3k&Forum=61

Someone should invite

Someone should invite Hannity to represent the government story during the National 9/11 Debate.

(Seriously- does anyone else get the feeling that the Debate is going to get cancelled, due to lack of government representation/participation?)

Bummer if Bowman was weak tonight. Any 9/11 Truth believer going on FOX shows needs to be on the A-Team. Kevin did a good job, as did Fetzer on his H&C visit (though he's very hit-or-miss, and tends to implode if given enough time/opportunity/antagonism).

What is David Ray Griffin doing these days? Or for that matter Steven Jones? I've heard not a peep about them in a while... And frankly, I'm a little bit nervous, since Jones is overdue to release his peer-reviewed proof of thermate... (Please God don't let him get David Kelly'd...)

Watch right before the

Watch right before the commercials that I think proceeded the Hodgkins disease kid or right before the commercial proceeding the Bowman segment.

-slaqqer

Hey everyone, the vid is

Hey Chris, kudos to you. If

Hey Chris, kudos to you. If you're only 23, you're one smart cookie. I do hope you're wrong about an upcoming false-flag terrorist event though -- I'm afraid you're probably right. We can't live in fear though -- if we do, they win.

And, btw, why are so many people in here named Chris? That's my name as well. hehe

Thanks for getting the video

Thanks for getting the video up so fast somebigguy.... I'll watch ASAP.

Wow Hannity is really Nico

Wow Hannity is really Nico Haupt's biggest fan...

They both need their asses kicked.

back to Linklater... would

back to Linklater... would he have even mentioned Bruce Willis if Willis did not plan on speaking up?

If the main objective is to

If the main objective is to help open the minds of the uninformed, Bowman handled the job with skill and without needless color. He choose not to impress the choir, wisely.

I appreciate Bowman for his

I appreciate Bowman for his efforts.

Regarding his comment:

"The truth about 9/11 is we don't know the truth about 9/11."

IMHO, On a H&C show, this is a decent slogan, but not really superb:

1. It doesn't give any facts as to support the assertion that we don't know the truth about 9/11. Should be followed by facts that show that we don't know the truth, e.g.
"... because The 9/11 Commission was a complete whitewash headed by Bush administration insider with every member having profound conflicts of interest." or could come up with lots of other reasons. It needs at leaast one supporting fact to back it up.

2. That sound bite doesn't tell us why we should care. "If we don't find out for sure who caused this crime, we cannot know how to prevent future 9-11 type attacks." or some other reason why we should care.

Getting together some great sound bites and practicing them is good for us to improve our skills.

Any and every speaker can learn to be better with practice and coaching.

Anybody have any favorite 9/11 sound bites of their own they wish to share with us? Effective communication is important, and we can learn from one another.

Alright. I thought he did

Alright. I thought he did perfectly fine. I think the agnostic approach will get alot of people to investigate the issue where as someone talking about "thermate" would be considered kooky. I thought he did fine and he'll appeal to alot of people with that method.

Wow, I think Bob Bowman did

Wow, I think Bob Bowman did GREAT. Sure, he wasn't foaming at the mouth like Alex Jones (not a bad thing, I might add) -- but Bowman came across as distinguished and concerned and MATURE. Hannity did NOT get the upper hand, unless you're taking points for IMMATURE jabs.

It didn't bother me one bit that Bowman didn't take a particular stand on his theory of what happened. That's safe and it's also smart. This clip shows that 9/11 is not a closed issue, and that's important for people of my generation (over 50) who may be somewhat uninformed and curious about what all the fuss is about. My 2 cents.

Did anyone notice how colmes

Did anyone notice how colmes spoon fed Bowman? In other words, he blatantly stated what the govt's "theory" is cause none of the truthers ever say exactly what it is they just say their story is a theory too. To me it sounds like he is starting to wonder what actually happened.

At the end when Hannity was saying Bowman was a dem and should be in the party of Howard Dean, Comles under his breath said "this is not a republican vs. democrat issue." Pretty impressive if you ask me...

P.S. Personally, I prefer

P.S. Personally, I prefer Kevin Barrett's outspokenness, but Bowman will appeal to a different group -- so his performance tonight was very worthwhile.

Somebigguy - thank you so

Somebigguy - thank you so much for your video uploads. Just out of curiosity, what hardware and software do you use for this feat, and how much does it cost for someone to get these items for themselves?

ChrisB, good points -- and I

ChrisB, good points -- and I heard Colmes being drowned out at the end too with that comment "this is not a republican vs. democrat issue." In some ways, this appearance by Bowman may reach a lot more viewers than Barrett.

It must be a big challenge

It must be a big challenge for almost anybody to deal with the pressure of being on national TV, getting only 3 minutes, and having to deal with constant interruptions and insults by the hosts.

So Chris, would you vote for

So Chris, would you vote for a Democrat who says he's a "9-11 truther"?
stallion4 | 07.12.06 - 10:31 pm | #
thats way too vague. it depends on what the person specifically said about 9/11.i feel like your trying to get me to play your little "see, you would fall for it" game, but thats bullshit. i have no faith in this government, i dont see much of a point in voting for anyone in this country.the argument that somehow democrats are going to embrace 9/11 truth(only to hijack and weaken the movement) to some degree is laughable to me though.too much complicity to ignore.i seriously gotta go sleep now though.
Chris | Homepage | 07.12.06 - 10:40 pm | #

No games. Just tying to figure out where you're coming from is all.

Bowman did make some good

Bowman did make some good points. Apparently Colmes did not realize that the government's account is a conspiracy theory, and that was explained to him by Bowman. I do believe this was a better interview after watching it a second time than I originally thought after the first view.

Thanks for pointing out

Thanks for pointing out Colmes' comments at the end. I had missed that my first time watching.

I was also thinking that it was very strange, and even awkward, how Colmes was spoonfeeding Bowman. Colmes is way too weak, though, and it is way too obvious why he was chosen to be the "balance" for Hannity.

While I liked Barrett's interview a whole lot more, I agree that this interview may reach a different audience, and that the different style may have been a good thing.

Thanks for posting the video so quickly, as I also missed it live.

Interesting that Fox News is

Interesting that Fox News is covering 911 truth.

I keep thinking of a bit in Manufacturing Consent where Chomsky says (I'm paraphrasing): were the propaganda system more advanced, they WOULD allow people with alternative viewpoints on the air -- for the simple reason that they would sound like they were from Neptune.

No doubt that is Fox's strategy.

Because Fox viewers are so insulated, and because of concision (and constant interruptions by the hosts), there just isn't enough time to back up what one is saying with coherent arguments. The best you can do is try and slip in a web address.

People who listen to Alex Jones and agree with his worldview may find it energizing to see him on television, but he must come across as a complete nut to many people, and I for one don't agree with about half of what he has to say; converseley, people like Bowman are rendered impotent by the MTV format and bullied by the hosts.

Thank God for the internet.

my 2 cents: you people that

my 2 cents: you people that think Bowman didn't do real great---try to look at it thru a different set of eyes. No, he didn't spew off every fact we now have or every theory (thank God!) out there. No. He calmly told the public that hey, we need to know the truth and we haven't been told it. And while tastfully avoiding Hannity's traps, he maintained a sense of common sense. He did not come off as a crazy weirdo. He had a very sane plea that we look into this further. Isn't that the first thing we need for middle america to wake up to?

Alex Jones is fine but I am betting you that he mayeasily turn off as many as he may turn on to this issue just by his mannerisms and intensity. NOW, before you yell at me---I like Alex, but it is necessary to try and reach all the people we can with this message and sometimes some people are turned off by intense speakers. Just my thoughts.

All my respect Dr. Bowman, I thought you did a fine job and maintained a level head with a clear message.

Tonya, we're definitely on

Tonya, we're definitely on the same page. Alex Jones is hard to take, especially if you're not used to him -- he seems like the perfect spokesman for a tabloid or wrestling match -- although, after all these years (since 2003 for me) of hearing him now and then, I tend to agree with most of what he says (I do NOT agree with him on Peak Oil). Anyway, it's good to see several of us here who see Bowman's appearance in a very positive light -- some of the earlier comments above had me almost not wanting to watch, as if Bowman was an embarassment.... I couldn't disagree more.

Did anyone catch

you have to realize that at

you have to realize that at least some subset of people will realize that Hannity is full of shit and that he gave Bowman no opportunity to get into any real discussion.

Bowman did great dealing with these two, too bad that is what we have to stoop to.

OK, I finally saw it and I

OK, I finally saw it and I think that you guys are way too hard on Dr. Bowman.

H&C is not a good format for anyone... other than the Coulterbeast.

However, it is a foot in the door and 9/11 Truth couldn't even make it to the front stoop not too long ago.

Hannity is so disingenuous and Dr. Bowman's comments and composure demonstrated that.

It will spark an interest and these days everyone knows how to Google.

Good work, Prof. Fetzer!
Good work, Dr. Barrett!
Good work, Dr. Bowman!

Watched it; not sure what

Watched it; not sure what all the fuss was about. Thought he did an admirable job too.

Well, some may think Bowman

Well, some may think Bowman won. I do. But others will think Hannity won. The reason is because this is all based on ones expectations of what's believable and what is not. I remember picking up Griffins 9/11 Pearl Harbor book and dismissing it without an adequate read. I knew Griffins work from other areas and thought age must have overcome him finally with 9/11. Now I think he's right because of my recent exposure to all the information at st911.org, this site and others.

Anyway, at least it's in the mainstream media.

They all need to put in a

They all need to put in a plug for a website on each and every appearance. That is one constructive critique for these speakers. In a three minute interview, that is the best we can hope for, is that someone will check out the facts at one of our 9/11 truth websites.

when Hannity mentioned Dr.

when Hannity mentioned Dr. Bowman was in the same party as Howard Dean. I thought he must be crazy to make associtaions like that. I mean, look at who shares a party Haniity: Ann Coulter!

That's just it, Mark. It's

That's just it, Mark.

It's out in the MSM. FINALLY.

It's not about winning...at least not on Hannity & Colmes!

We cannot expect them to embrace us with open arms and agree with us.

These past 2 or 3 wks we have gotten the MSM to at least talk about us....and now at us....

So, they portray 9/11 Truth as wierd.

"Wierd" makes people curious.

Chin up! ;-)

Weird. If anything,

Weird.

If anything, Hannity's rants will be good in some DVDs. I know I'll be using it.

Did you notice how he

Did you notice how he pretended that 9/11 skeptics disbelieve that planes were involved?

This is a set-up. What is

This is a set-up. What is the next card?

Hannity = kool aid breath:
"planes hit buildings..they come down"
Only a serious fool would make this statement.

Scott Durr CIA Manchurian 911 whistleblower dead of a heart attack??
Save this document of Scott's posts. Click HERE to save or open.

"You can't handle the truth" 8)

Dude did not push hard

Dude did not push hard enough. Allowed time to be wasted off Hannity and Colmes bullshit sidelines: Just what they want. Fox news is bullshit. If you go on their program, you MUST be willing to overcome all the blocks they throw. Otherwise, it's not worth it. They realized that ignoring the problem isn't the answer, so they are trying to heal the problem superficially. Don't take that road, take the hard road; afterall ours is not about soundbites, but truth, whatever it's form! But TRUTH first and TRUTH throughout.

"Did you notice how he

"Did you notice how he pretended that 9/11 skeptics disbelieve that planes were involved?"

Indeed. Thanks Nico and company.

http://www.jsonline.com/story

Pretty funny, Bowman handled

Pretty funny, Bowman handled himself well. Hanity is looking a little fustrated from having his ass handed to him on a regular basis by truthers. All he can do is base insults and promote the right vs left paradigm.

H&C completely zeroed out

H&C completely zeroed out Bowman's formidable credentials in the intro --PhD from CalTech in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Lt Col., headed Star Wars program...H&C only reveal the bankruptcy of the official conspiracy theory. I wished Bowman was a wee bit stronger, but his strategy was smart - focus on a couple of points and repeat: 'official' conspiracy theory is wacko & we need an investigation.

"imagine Alex Jones on

"imagine Alex Jones on Hannity, even with 3 minutes he would verbally murder him."
Chris

OMG, funny as hell, and TRUE!

What does it mean that

What does it mean that FoxNews has thrice given a forum to 9/11 Truthers (Fetzer, Barrett and Bowman)- and has spoken of the subject several times outside of Hannity and Comes?

MSNBC has also given 9/11 Truth a spotlight three times- with the Tucker Carlson interview of Steven Jones, then the Scarborough Country interview of Berger, and then again with Carlsn even yesterday (discussing Kevin Barrett).

Are they plugging this story because it is being plugged elsewhere? Did the New York Times article start a trickle-down process, as it so often does, to niche magazines and cable news shows?

Is the Vanity Fair piece prompting perceptions that 9/11 Truth is a meme that is now no longer the domain of tinfoil hats, Apollo Moon landing hoaxers and anti-zionists?

What is going on? Why have the gatekeepers suddenly opened the gates and let this idea roam rampant in front of large audiences?

That Fox seems to be leading the charge in this discussion suggests to me collusion with the administration- at least in as much as it is obvious that, if Cheney didn't want this story to get air-time repeatedly on his favorite news channel, it would not get air time on Fox. (Either the administration- or an ally nation- has purged stories from the network before.)

Maybe it is as simple as Hannity (or Fox) feeling like, in the Fetzer then Barrett interviews, the 9/11 Truth folks ended up seeming like they had the upper hand- and that a rematch was necessary. That is one believable option.

Yet the speculative scenarios are darker. This 9/11 Truth story is being brought into the open so that it can be digested by the public in a controlled setting, one that is hardly conducive to in-depth exploration, given the time constraints and political agendas of the interviews involved. There is a brief window of indulgence on the gatekeepers part- letting the public eat-up what they might choose to. Then- something happens to take this very top-of-mind issue (9/11 Truth) and forcefully undermine it. Another attack - perhaps bigger in scale- with a new round of patsies (and a far less ambiguous evidence trail, point to Muslim Extremists who, for the record, "...hate our freedom.")

Bowman did great, all things

Bowman did great, all things considered.

No disinfo agent, I don't

No disinfo agent, I don't think there is a plan except the one about getting back a 911-truther for beating them a couple times before. If there is some bigger set up then a simple counter was suggested, repeating the url's of well researched 911 sites. The internet is going them in just like it's doing in general TV and print news.

Get ready for CIVIL WAR:)

Sean Hannity is so dumb he

Sean Hannity is so dumb he thinks airplanes make buildings suffer total collpases at near free fall speed, with squibs, with molten metal dripping from them, and in a symetrical fasion offering no restience. Who is the nut here? Who is the epitome of ignorance?

The bottom line is that the collpase of those buildings cannot be explained away besides in a controlled demolition. That fact is not going away, not now, not ever.

Why Bowman does not state this I do not know.

I'm also curious as to what is being done with the "small" fact that thermite WAS found on the steel remains from some memorial parks. Is that or isn't the case. If it is, then this should be over, it should be the deathblow to the offical story.

It's just beyond beleif that you can have hard physical facts and evidence which proves something and yet the public record states a conclusion which does not agree with facts.

I like Alex Jones, but the

I like Alex Jones, but the first time I heard him speak I thought he was a nut job. I would HATE to see him on H&C. After watching his videos and hearing him speak I love the guy. I agree with almost everything he says but he takes a while to get use to. I don't think the Fox News watchers could handle Alex. Having said that I too think Bowman did a great job. He just sat back and let that sorry excuse for a human being make a complete ass out of himself. I think Hannity is certifiable. He was almost foaming at the mouth. (and they call me maddog?).......To Chris, I find it hard to believe you are only 23. You have a terrific grasp of what is really happening in this world for such a young person. I am impressed.

I HATE HANNITY AND COLMES!

I HATE HANNITY AND COLMES!

We needed the Bob Bowman

We needed the Bob Bowman that was at the L.A. Conference.

Bowman chickened out.

Bowman chickened out.

I thought Mr. Bowman did

I thought Mr. Bowman did very well. He didn't try to overtalk, overcompensate or get overly reactive. He was composed and relaxed throughout the interview. Hannity and Colmes were obvious in their typical, redundant schtick. Bowman stated that the government's conspiracy is more bizarre than those who are truly investigating the situation. Absolutely. That is the point that needs to begin to open minds to the truth.
Was impressed with Mr. Bowman and I believe he came off as the more impressive by far.

Yea, I thought Dr. Bowman

Yea, I thought Dr. Bowman did just fine.
Some very good points/observations made here: that Bowman's style will connect with a different demographic than AJ or Fetzer, and that a mature, rational QUESTIONING mind is skeptical of the official conspiracy theory.
So far I think that Kevin Barrett has fared best: super-quick, densely-informative, not willing to be bulldozed by the mental slug Hannity.

I also agree that Colmes repeatedly sounds like he's connecting, sympathetic (?) with these questions.

H & C is a sad excuse for journalism, but it's the format available in the mainstream now, and I think that overall, we're going to benefit from even these short, skewed "interviews".

'Colmes 'Agnostic' as to

'Colmes 'Agnostic' as to Whether Bush Brought Down WTC?'

http://newsbusters.org/node/6394

That was a little too

That was a little too diplomatic for my taste. When asked if the buildings were rigged, why beat around the bush? WTC7's demise has been officially unexplained for almost 5 years now, and as we can all see, it exposed all the characteristics of a controlled demolition. It's not nutty to point out this simple fact, it's nutty to believe otherwise. Seriously. We shouldn't be denying that the earth is round just because the common orthodoxy suggests otherwise, after all it's this common orthodoxy we want to overcome.

And when the old tired argument of "you can't keep such a large operation under tabs" comes up, just bring up Gladio. 10 minutes of reading up on this, and you'll never, ever disregard the possibility of large conspiracies again.

So, to sum up: WTC7, Gladio = Game Over. It's just impossible to argue away

Bowman said that the gov's

Bowman said that the gov's theory is not the truth - he wants a fresh investigation.

This is the correct tact - we don't know what happened, we know that what you said isn't what happened, and we want a new investigation.

Its a much easier jump for newbees to makes. Whose gonna argue with you that Bushco is capable of lying?

Well Done Bowman, Fetzer and

Well Done Bowman, Fetzer and Kevin!

I haven't read through the

I haven't read through the comments, but I just wanted to say that after watching this for a second time, I think Dr. Bowman came off exceptionally well.

He was calm, he acted like a gentleman despite the fact that Hannity was a retard. "The planes hit the buildings, and the buildings came down". Really Sean? That's all that happened on 9/11? There's nothing more to the story, or is that all you're capable of grasping with your pea-sized brain.

I would say, "Sean, it appears you know as much about 9/11 as the 9/11 Commission." :)

Dr. Bowman certainly didn't have the "oomph" that we get excited about, but it wasn't a bad showing.

If you say we don't know

If you say we don't know anything yet, you're implicitly denying the relevance of WTC7, as well as the rest of the evidence for controlled demolitions, which is plentiful and solid (Conservation of momentum, Entropy, Squibs, Eyewitnesses, Molten steel, you know the deal...).

The government "scientists" refuse to deal with these points for that very reason - why is that the 7 report's been delayed indefinitely and the other reports stopped investigating at the so called "initiation of collapse"? Jeebus, we KNOW the buildings were rigged and we can prove it while all they can do is refusing to listen.

You hear me?

I'm wondering how many

I'm wondering how many viewers of the trash known as Hannity & Colmes have their views changed by Jim Fetzer, Kevn Barrett or Bob Bowman? I'd love to see a Fox News poll on that. I would guess most regular viewers have little ability for critical thinking, and that 911 truth just bounces off them.

"This 9/11 Truth story is

"This 9/11 Truth story is being brought into the open so that it can be digested by the public in a controlled setting"

Thanx disinfo agent for addressing the question I put forth at the top. I thought the above quote was especially on mark. Fox news is known by most as being the fringe, the "liars", the purporters of disinformation. They are giving 9/11 Truth its time (because they can't ignore it any longer) but they are doing so in a very controlled, debate (where everyone has something 'out there' to say) style play. Ease into it / Make 911 Truth a common thing without stirring up to much dust...

911 Truthers should STOP going on Fox News. There are enough ways besides this to get the truth out. Don't pander to whatever it is one super lame and aweful broadcast station is up to. These people have been players to attacks on America, Afganistan, and Iraq, these people lied to the world and now hundreds of thousands of people are dead, countless tortured ... Stop pandering to them!

From above, "Did anyone

From above, "Did anyone catch this?"

G:

Thank you for pointing it out.

I included my response in the July 13, Mid Week Open Thread.

Thanks again.

Erin

I finally got around to

I finally got around to seeing the H&C show with Bowman. I agree with those that think he did a good job, or at least the best he could do in this format. There is not much to say about Sean Hannity, other than, I would not like to be him and have to look at myself in the mirror every morning. But the sad fact is, our media are government-friendly large corporations that have benefitted greatly from 9/11 and the subsequent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Including the pending war with Iran and Syria which we Americans are going to just let happen.

I am encouraged, yet suspicious of the recent attention to 9/11 Truth of late. I agree with Craig that this seems to be leading up to another false-flag operation against the U.S.. Unfortunately, what is obvious to us, will be swallowed, hook, line and sinker by the lemmings represented by the majority of the American public.

Just watch MSNBC, Fox and CNN and how they are currently spinning the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. I am not a fan of either, but the favorable bias towards Israel is symptomatic of what is wrong with our 4th estate. It would be nice just to say "fuck it" and go on with our lives with heads in the sand. Hell, I make a good living. I have the best girlfriend in the world, my ex-wife and I are still great friends. I have the best son in the world. I could easily just remove 911blogger.com from my "favorites" list and just move on. But, bottomline, a serious injustice has been done to the citizens of the United States of America. I want to be a part of bringing those people truly responsible for 9/11 and the subsequent deaths of tens of thousands of humans resultant from 9/11 to justice.

Peace and truth... Over and out.

Kurt

I still say Bowman was weak

I still say Bowman was weak and ineffective.

The 9/11 Truth issue is far too critical to pussyfoot around with. Its one thing for Bowman to say that the evidence is on our side. Its another thing entirely for him to articulate exactly what that evidence is. He failed to articulate what that evidence is.

Again, 3,000 Americans died on 9/11. They and their families have been denied justice for almost 5 years now.

Given the gravity of what occurred then and what has occurred SINCE then, we need strong decisive leadership that is unafraid to hold these people to account.

People are being thrown in jail for so-called terrorist plans that are more "aspirational than operational" (The Liberty City 7). 9/11 is being used to justify these actions. How much longer do you think it will be before it becomes illegal to even be a "9/11 Truther"? If you think that this is too far-fetched, then you really do have a pre-9/11 mentality!

This is no time for weakness or meekness. The truth is on our side and the truth shall set us free from this tyranny.

Kevin Barrett succeeded in speaking truth to power. Jim Fetzer succeeded in speaking truth to power. Robert Bowman failed in his duty to speak truth to power (at least on this occasion). Why? Was he too focused on being a good politician? I am sorry, that is not a good enough reason. We don't need anymore good politicians. We need patriots in the spirit of Patrick Henry and Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King.

As 9/11 Truthers, we need to hold our "leaders" accountable to this higher standard. To tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. In this time of great CRISIS, anything less does our country and our world a huge disservice.

If they are not up to the task then they should step aside. Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. That's my position.

If Alex Jones was on H&C,

If Alex Jones was on H&C, they would probably start fading the microphone volume of AJ down very slowly.

Hey Chris. I have to

Hey Chris.

I have to disagree with you. Bowman got on a MSM outlet and seemed reasoned and rational. The only one that seemed shrill was Hannity. Keep in mind, who watches Fox... the Kool-Aid drinkers whose mind (and I use that term liberally) will not change and those that have an open mind that happen to just tune in. Bowman did not mention WTC7 (in my opinion, the smoking gun.. at least for 911Truth initiates). His worse sin was not getting in a plug for one of the reputable 9/11 Truth sites out there. It is unfortunate that he is running for political office. That will moderate his tone considerably, no doubt.

Do I think Bruce Willis speaking out on 9/11 Truth will help? A little, only to get his fan base to start getting curious. We need several people with some cajones, in positions of power, with integrity to act like Americans... or should I say humans... to at least question the "official story". In my opinion, as of now, the leader of the 9/11 Truth movement is David Ray Griffin. He has provide the most compelling reasoning why the "9/11 official story" is questionable at least. But, he is a professor, not media savvy and... I believe he would fold under the right "kind of pressure". Alex Jones... I love him. But too radical for the general public to be taken seriously. I like Ruppert.. but question his background. He wouldn't stand up to too much media scrutiny if attacked....

I am still wondering what person or persons are going to break this thing wide open. I want to point out that Dylan Avery, Corey Rowe and company are also on my heroes list along side Griffin. They have gotten the word out with the LC2 video. I HOPE that when the Final Cut comes out, that the "evidence" in the video is irrefutable and concise.

Dylan, if you are listening.. kudos to you and your team for the Vanity Fair spread.. .I read it a couple of times and thought the interviewer surprisingly unbiased. It was a much more interesting read than the Hilary Swank interview but your story's pictures weren't as compelling :-)

Take care.

Hey Chris, kudos to you. If

Hey Chris, kudos to you. If you're only 23, you're one smart cookie. I do hope you're wrong about an upcoming false-flag terrorist event though -- I'm afraid you're probably right. We can't live in fear though -- if we do, they win.

And, btw, why are so many people in here named Chris? That's my name as well. hehe
CK | Homepage | 07.12.06 - 10:49 pm | #
thanks man, but im far from smart,im just passionate and opinionated.

To Chris, I find it hard to believe you are only 23. You have a terrific grasp of what is really happening in this world for such a young person. I am impressed.
maddog | Homepage | 07.13.06 - 3:38 am | #
you too man,thanks for the compliment, my face is red from this ego stroking, but i can assure you im not even close to being smart.if you talk forcefully enough and sound you like you know what your talking about, people sometimes think your smart. haha.thats all i am.

and i have to stongly

and i have to stongly disagree with the people saying Alex Jones is too abrasive and wouldnt be good on mainstream tv slots regarding 9/11 truth. the guy knows how to speak ,and his memory of relevent facts is so friggin sharp.he can fire them off one after another like a machine.and he wouldnt be bullied by the likes of Smerconish and Hannity. i urge you to go watch his appearence on CNN Headline News, Showbiz Tonight with A.J. Hammer. it was the greatest 5 minutes ever aired on national television. abrasive delivery or not, it was mindblowing he was able to say the things he said on national tv.seriously, go watch it.

I also enjoyed Alex Jones in

I also enjoyed Alex Jones in his cameo role in "A Scanner Darkly".

Alex Jones is an American

Alex Jones is an American Patriot.

God bless (and protect) Alex Jones.

Bowman did pretty good,

Bowman did pretty good, considering. He held his own and kept his cool. Hannity looked like the rude bully that he is.

But I think Bowman is wrong to say he's "agnostic" on the events of 9/11. That word means, "incapable of being known". Certainly not true of 9/11.

I hear people talking about

I hear people talking about a another super 9/11 terrorist attack. In Bush World anything is possible but never forget 9/11 caught us with our pants down. That will never happen again. If the Bush mob pulls off another 9/11 you can bet your ass people will be all over them like flies on shit. To you Bush people who read this blog remember Big Brother is watching YOU!

No maddog, IMO the next

No maddog, IMO the next false flag attack will be bigger and deadlier (think nuclear) and followed by martial law.

I hope I'm wrong. I fear I'm not.

Bowman did great. Remember

Bowman did great. Remember that all of this is very new for most people. We need more people like Bowman to speak to the uninformed public, to simply support the idea of questioning what happened. All of our detailed speculation, for someone new, sounds crazy - no matter what - when it's just blurted out all at once. Thank you Mr. Bowman!

"If your life revolved

"If your life revolved around American Idol, and partying, and meeting boys, what would you think her answer would be?

This is a job for the adults of America."

I'm in the truth movement since i was 17 at least

But I think Bowman is wrong

But I think Bowman is wrong to say he's "agnostic" on the events of 9/11. That word means, "incapable of being known". Certainly not true of 9/11.
Chander | 07.13.06 - 12:46 pm | #

As I recall it was Colmes who said he was agnostic not Bowman.

yes,it was Colmes who said

yes,it was Colmes who said that, not Bowman. Bowman had a great line though-"its a lot more believable than YOUR conspiracy Sean."

transcript of the Bowman

I think Bowman was a

I think Bowman was a gentleman.He is a true patriot.I think i would have told Hannity #1 Sarcasim is ignorance first recoarse.#2A good reporter(non bias)get's all the information on both sides to come up with the most logical conclusion,and it's aparent that he did'nt.
#3 Make another anouncement for st911.org.#4 Get Hannity's address so i could send him a case of chapstick (For the all the corporate butt kissing he's doing.

Wow! A whopping few

Wow! A whopping few minutes,in which a good man was constantly interupted,and very rudely treated.A man of honor & intergity.
Is this how Fox treat's it's veterans?....I would have also told Hannity.If the media was'nt controled,and all the evidance was brought to the public attention even a moron like himself could see it.
The fool probally believes the Warren commission.
The facts remain....Only when the major media grows a set will be able to get to the who's & why's
By the way...The news on the Nation 911 debate team....http://www.teamliberty.net/id273.html