7/7: Interrogating British Security Policies

Last week, on July 12th, "the Campaign Against Criminalising Communities hosted the first Parliamentary public meeting calling for an independent public inquiry into the London bombings. The meeting took place in the House of Lords, and was chaired by Lord Rea. We were most fortunate to benefit from the participation of a number of 7/7 survivors, including Rachel North, who delivered a moving address that opened the meeting, Holly Finch and John Tulloch." (quotation from Nafeez Ahmed's blog)

Nafeez Ahmed gave a statement at the meeting, here is an excerpt;

...Indeed, the official account fails to acknowledge and does not explain why in the first week after the 77 terrorist attacks, intelligence officials, police officers and forensic scientists independently said that forensic examination had found “traces of military-grade C4 plastic explosive at the London Underground blast sites”. Some of these sources suggest that the C4 most likely originated from jihadist networks in the Balkans. The Balkans connection, if true, raises further awkward questions regarding the international dimension of the plot. But after that week, the police said they found TATP in a bathtub in a Leeds flat linked to the bombers. Suddenly, the C4 finding was forgotten, and sources told the press that the explosives used on the London Underground and bus bombings were solely TATP. When I scrutinized the relevant reports I was dissatisfied. For instance, Janes Terrorism and Insurgency Centre, when reporting the TATP finding as late as 22nd July (about a week after the finding) said that forensic tests “had still to confirm whether TATP had indeed been found”, and that further testing was still needed to get a decisive result. Meanwhile, the rest of the media was saying that TATP had definitely been found...

Like 9/11, 7/7 is absolutely rife with anomalies and plagued by inadequate (to say the least) government reports. This has led Alex Jones, (and many others), to conclude that it was False Flag, which he covers in Terrorstorm. Ahmed has just had a new book published about the 7/7 attacks; "The London Bombings: An Independent Inquiry". Hopefully, we will be able to provide some video and audio coverage of the historic July 12th meeting, in the near future.

Ahmed also offers a well-informed historical analysis of the Israel/Palestine situation here.

KGB = CIA Vatican Assassins

KGB = CIA

Vatican Assassins the Movie
(catch the first 8 minutes)

http://www.8thestate.com/?page_id=36

PS Marvin Bush in charge of security at WTC, wonder if he saw the rascals placing the bombs?
;)

It makes me nervous the way

It makes me nervous the way Fox News is constantly talking about all the Americans in Lebanon. When I see mainstream media, especially FN, talking about something that much it makes me suspicious. I wouldn't be surprised if there is some sort 'terrorist' attack on Americans there soon. Something to piss the American public off and get us behind retaliation or war against Iran, Syria etc etc. It just worries me to see everyone on Fox News constantly talking about how Iran is to blame... ESPECIALLY that evil skum sucker Bill Kristol... god he's been on Fox alot in the last 3 days.

Off topic, I think Israel

Off topic, I think Israel should be wiped off the planet for what they are doing right now. They are lower than animals. I used to feel sorry for them, but I guess deep down they themselves are the terrorists.

Fuck them and fuck Bush for making the world fucking horrible.

Oh, GWB, btw thanks for making the world a much safer place you fucking CUNT!

Fuck you, cos I could give a damn, I just cant scrape you off my shoe!

911 was a scam, pinned on so called Islamic terrorists, its so obvious but the world turns a blind eye. Especially us in the good old US of A. Are we really that gullible?

I have been putting together

I have been putting together clips for an hour long video, maybe it would make the "zionists do everything" people calm down if I include the dancing israelis and a little bit of Fox News' coverage.

Can we all be on the same team then? ;-)

I was gonna say the only

I was gonna say the only time I remember a post about the student's murder was from a few month's back (you know, when it actually happened!)

I'm sick of debating online to be honest.

I've been doing nothing lately but printing material and burning DVDs (i find that EGLS and Dem Bruce Lee Styles' film What's The Truth go very well together on 1 DVD)

my attitude now is stop signing, start bringing.

If the "25,000 stranded Americans" becomes the justification for further infiltration of the middle east, I might become the first American Suicide Bomber.

of course I say that in jest. ;-)

I wonder how deep they go in

I wonder how deep they go in this inquiry. I'd be quite surprised.

Nafeez is a bad... bad man.

Nafeez is a bad... bad man.

His books are a little hard

His books are a little hard to follow at times, but wow.

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/fo

Off topic... Out of town

Off topic...

Out of town right now but occasionally checking the "news" about the Middle East situation...

It appears Bush is still saying that Israel is right in lashing out against Hezbollah (who is allegedly doing dirty things to Israel)...

but is this a sign that Bush will soon start targeting Iran who apparently sometimes funds Hezbollah?

I rarely ever agree with the Vatican, but I do agree with the Vatican's chastising of Israel regarding its actions.

Do you think its only a matter of time before we hear Bush somehow trying to associate this Middle East craziness with 9/11 and the fairy tale "official" story he has continued to pound home?

I'm sensing the rogues in the government are starting to run scared.

And to the people who run

And to the people who run this sight.

What happened to that Michael Zebuhr article that you posted yesterday. I called you guys out on your bullshit and you removed.

CLEARLY YOU DON'T LIKE BEING EXPOSED!!!!

LOL!!!

Everyone give a round of apluase to the Orwellian controllers of information who run 911blogger.com.

Here is a very important article about a young 9/11 truth activist who was murdered in what appears to be a professional hit. 911blogger.com tried to present it as horrible incident that just randomly took place. They also failed to mention that 2 suspects, WHO MATCHED EYE WITNESS DESCRIPTIONS,and WERE PULLED OVER SHORTLY AFTER THE CRIME FOR DRIVING A VEHICLE MATCHING THE WITNESSES DESCRIPTION, which by the way was his mother and sister,and THREW A GUN OUT OF THE WINDOW.

All of this took place months ago and Scholars for 9/11 Truth( Who Zebuhr was a member of) and 911blogger.com CHOSE NOT TO REPORT ON UNTIL YESTERDAY. And they did report on it believe me. You won't see it up now because they have REMOVED the article after I put up a post explaining to people exactly what I am saying to you. Here is the report about Michael Zebuhr.

My most heartfelt sympathy goes out to family of this young man.

http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Michael.html

PLEASE REALIZE THE PEOPLE OF 911blogger.com ARE CRIMINALS COVERING UP CRIMES.

They are not on our side people.

PLEASE WAKE UP WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

Webster Tarpley makes good

Webster Tarpley makes good point on Israel going berserk this way...why isn't the president holding israel accountable for the 25,000 us citizens left in lebanon. Isn't that what he should be doing?

Because the president works

Because the president works for Israel.

Webster Tarpley issues

Webster Tarpley issues "False Flag" warning:
http://www.gnn.tv/B16712

unrelated in his book road

unrelated
in his book road to abu ghaib seymour hersh debunks "they were not interested in lift off/landing part" claims. Instructor told him suspect said "i'd like to lift off at heathrow(london) and land at jfk." he then wonders how that got into "we'd just like to learn to fly, not land"
maybe he should check with fox news?
just thought you'd like to know

Interesting article linked

Interesting article linked at another board on the physical limits of the aircraft.
http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/19000/Planes_of_911_Exceeded_Their_So...

From the

From the we-already-knew-that-department:

Scott Ritter Charges Iraq War for Global Hegemony
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0309/S00146.htm

David Leakey and all, what?

David Leakey and all, what? The people who run 911blogger.com are criminals???

Yep. Criminals one and all.

Yep. Criminals one and all. :lol:

Jon, who is this David

Jon, who is this David Leakey who is posting that 911blogger.com is a criminal element?

No idea.

No idea.

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/fo

War can't give life, it can

War can't give life, it can only take it away.

Dear David, I know that I

Dear David,

I know that I didn't post a story about Michael Zebuhr yesterday. SBG, GW, was it you?

Regardless, you should withdraw your accusation of us being criminals.

Personally, I have been advised by one of the Scholars, (who will remain nameless), that indeed, Zebuhr's death does have a series of anomalies associated with it.

I have a theory about those who spend the majority of their time inciting division and name-calling.

Barrie Zwicker explains it better than I ever could:
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/07/barrie-zwicker-on-agents-of-state_01.html

reprehensor, thank you for

reprehensor, thank you for the link to the Barrie Zwicker article on infiltration.

There was no article

There was no article regarding Michael Zebuhr posted yesterday as far as I know.

However, what I do know is that people that spend more time arguing, making accusations, making top ten lists, and being nuisances are probably a lot less interested in finding and exposing the Truth than those that promote positivity and activism like this site does.

I was out riding my bike through parking lots today delivering flyers, I didn't have time to respond to nonsense or remove articles.

sbg, check your gmail.

sbg, check your gmail.

Ok. That leaves GW. GW, did

Ok. That leaves GW.

GW, did you post a Zebuhr article yesterday? I did not see it.

David,

Precisely what time did you see the article posted? 911 sites seem to be under a bit of cyber-attack these days...

For example:
http://911sites.org

Reprehensor, I'm going to

Reprehensor,

I'm going to say this as kindly as I can. Don't insult my intelligence with more lies. I have been looking at this sight everyday for the last week, posting a few comments here and there, and I SAW THE ARTICLE ABOUT ZEBUHR. After midnight last night. I presented the suspicious aspects of 911blogger's and st911.org OVER 4 MONTH DELAY IN PRESENTING IT. I wake up the next day, go to check for a response, and the ARTICLE IS GONE. I didn't just dream about this happening sir. IT'S REALITY! I'm just letting you know people are finding out what is going on. AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT 9/11.

As for Zwicker,

Please explain to everyone why you requested that the camera be shut off as you "expose" the insiders of the 9/11 Truth Movement to Dylan Avery on his MySpace page?

(Funny thing is, I addressed this issue on 911blogger.com a few days ago and Dylan personaly responded.)

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi...

Second video down.

He hardly addressed the question though. Just replied with some smart remark.

Dylan Eventually deleted me from his MySpace page and never addressed my questions. As did Alex Jones. So come on Dylan and Barry. Lets hear it. Lets here some of the names of these people. Stop giving us faceless entities to chase around like Alex Jones does. I know Dylan is reading this. He's had his panties in a bundle over the stuff I've been saying.

And here is the Michael Zebuhr article SO PEOPLE CAN SEE EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON.

Since you didn't post it last night right. WINK WINK.

http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Michael.html

www.iamthewitness.com

WAKE UP PEOPLE WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

David, big problem in your

David, big problem in your theory:

"At about 11 p.m. Tuesday, officers saw a car run through a red light on Pillsbury Avenue South. During a pursuit, officers saw three guns being thrown from the car. The weapons were later retrieved. The chase ended when the car crashed into another vehicle."

If government agents were really going to murder Michael Zebuhr, whould they give the job to these bungling idiots who ran a red light, threw guns out of their car, crashed, & got caught by local police???

(Also, aren't the late Mr.

(Also, aren't the late Mr. Zebuhr's supposed ties to Minnesota rather overstated by you? Zebuhr was there with his mother to visit his sister, a student up there, not to do 9/11 stuff, as far as I could tell.)

David, The problem, sir, is

David,

The problem, sir, is that you posted in a thread that is almost 4 months old.

Here is your post from late last night:
http://haloscan.com/comments/dazinith/114320812119972856/#171434

Look at the date at the top of the thread: 03.24.06

Perhaps you should reflect on that before calling us liars and criminals again.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Leakey is the leaker. Hey S.

Leakey is the leaker.

Hey S. King wuzzup!

So if an elderly lady who

So if an elderly lady who posts on 9/11 truth forums is mugged at a liquor store, does that mean its shadowy black world CIA spooks?

The logic of some 9/11 truthers screams paranoid...to the point where anyone who disagrees with us or a particular theory is called a "government shill" or a "mason".

We all make mistakes. Maybe

We all make mistakes. Maybe I have made a couple on this blog. But I find these smears and attempts to divide the truth movement deeply unhelpful.
For God's sake let's stop the internecine stuff promoted by guys like this.
The name-callers and smearers are the real shills.

ESPECIALLY that evil skum

ESPECIALLY that evil skum sucker Bill Kristol... god he's been on Fox alot in the last 3 days.
Andy | 07.16.06 - 4:32 am | #
Kristol is indeed scum. that PNAC bitch is on Fox every weekend pushing his warmonger bullshit.

Israel is fucking

Israel is fucking disgusting.

just 15 minutes until Bill

just 15 minutes until Bill Kristol is on Fox News Sunday being an apologist for Israels illegal actions in Lebanon. ive never seen a guy cheer on civilian deaths as much as Bill"PNAC" Kristol.

I agree with Susan and

I agree with Susan and Chris. Israel is disgusting. (Not the people, they are just dumbed-down like the American and British people thanks to the mass media) But ignorance is no excuse. We truthers are wise to the rise. It is about time everyone else gets the picture. Time to push the truth like never before. With the net we can reach these people.......I also agree Kristol is scum. Nothing but a piece of sub-human filth. I put hin in the same class with Cheney and Guiliani. If I am not mistaken he founded The Project for The New American Century.

holy shit. guess what Bill

holy shit. guess what Bill Kristols last comments were right before the break? "and thats how we got September 11." i shit you not. i have such a primal anger when hearing this man speak.

yes maddog, Kristol is the

yes maddog, Kristol is the founder of PNAC. you can catch him on Fox News Sunday every single solitary week spewing his war-happy propaganda.to Juan "fake liberal" Williams credit, he said something along the lines of "there goes Bill Kristol again, calling for more war, war war war, thats all you ever say" to Kristol. it was nice to see the resident faux liberal say something tough like that for once.

Say Chris, keep me up-dated

Say Chris, keep me up-dated on what Kristol has to say. I can't watch Fox. I would loose my breakfast.

oh, im sure you could guess

oh, im sure you could guess what he says.hahahaha, they are done talking about Israel, so hes done waving his flag for them for today. now they are talking about Valerie Plame suing Cheney/Rove. what does Kristol think of the lawsuit?"its ridiculous, and i hope Libby rejoins the U.S. government, and help President Bush deal with the current threat in Iran." so he even manages to get in his warmongering during a discussion about a friggin lawsuit.and to say Libby needs to be reinstated in the government? wow. thats all i can say.wow.

pockybot at 07.16.06 - 1:56

pockybot at 07.16.06 - 1:56 am, all the indications are that Michael Zebuhr was definitely assassinated by the U.S. government.

Daryl Bradford Smith makes some good points in his article "The bizarre case of Michael Zebuhr" (April 2, 2006 http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Michael.html ) concerning the details of the case that point to assassination and subsequent police cover-up. But then Smith makes accusations against Scholars for 9/11 Truth that are truly groundless, as if he's intentionally trying to stir up divisiveness among the 9/11 Truth movement.

As I've noted previously, if the objective was to get his mother's purse, why needlessly throw a murder charge on top of it by firing *two shots* into Michael Zebuhr's head? (As the purse was given up immediately without resistance.) Obviously the objective wasn't to get the purse, the objective was to murder Michael Zebuhr. The purse was simply taken so that it would be written up in the press as a mugging.

Also interesting:

"Mpls. Police Say Uptown Still Safe Despite Murder," Jason DeRusha, WCCO (CBS), March 22, 2006:

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_080225959.html

Now how can the police truthfully say it is safe unless they believe that this wasn't a random act that could have happened to anyone at the same place and time? The only way they can truthfully say that is if they believe that it was a targeted murder specifically inteded for Michael Zebuhr; in which case others in the area need not fear the person who murdered Michael Zebuhr, since it wasn't a random act.

Consider also the below articles:

"Two of three released after Uptown chase," 5 Eyewitness News (KSTP-TV, LLC; ABC affiliate), March 23, 2006:

http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S15053.html

From the above article:

""
Two of the three individuals arrested after a high-speed chase in Uptown have been released.

The three individuals were apprehended after they were seen driving a vehicle that met the witnesses' description of the vehicle that fled the scene of Michael Zebuhr's murder.

Aiesha Williams was seen driving through multiple red lights, and then led police on a low-speed chase that lasted several miles.

Police say the other occupants of the vehicle, Omari Thomas and James Walker, threw loaded handguns out of the vehicle during the chase.

Thomas and Walker were released from the Hennepin County jail at noon Thursday. Police say they may still face weapons charges.
""

"Police say woman's arrest not linked to slaying," Aron Kahn, St. Paul Pioneer Press, March 24, 2006:

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:9PAZLs2ndjoJ:www.twincities.com/mld...

From the above article:

""
Aiesha Camille Williams of Hopkins was arrested after police said they saw a car run a red light at Pillsbury Avenue South and West 31st Street. During a pursuit, officers said they saw three guns thrown from the vehicle. The chase ended when the car crashed into another vehicle, and the weapons were retrieved.

But officers were unable to prove who was in possession of the guns, so a felony weapons violation could not be charged, a spokesman for the Hennepin County attorney said. Williams' 27-year-old passengers were released from custody Thursday.
""

As Daryl Smith mentions in his article:

""
Why would the police release murder suspects?

If you were driving a car that matched the getaway car for a murder, and if you were to toss a loaded handgun out the window as you tried to evade the police, would the police let you go free?

Would they be able to instantly determine that you had nothing to do with the murder? Would they decide that no investigation was needed?
""

Daryl Smith also lists evidence that the so-called "law enforcement" bureaucracy in Minnesota--particularly Minneapolis--is especially corrupt.

On this point Anonymous at 07.16.06 - 12:51 am wrote:

""
If government agents were really going to murder Michael Zebuhr, whould they give the job to these bungling idiots who ran a red light, threw guns out of their car, crashed, & got caught by local police???
""

The U.S. government could very well had simply hired some street thugs to carry out the hit. In this manner, their only contact with the U.S. government in terms of setting up the hit would be through their paymaster (or their gang leader, who in turn would be the contact man with the paymaster), whom I'm pretty sure wouldn't have given out his legal name to them. Hence, maintaining so-called "plausible deniability."

But if indeed these three people whom the police arrested are the assassins, then charging them for Michael Zebuhr's murder would threaten the "official" notion that this was merely somehow a mugging gone wrong, as one or more of them might start to sing about having been payed off to conduct the hit. Therefore, the case either needs to remain officially unsolved, or innocent people need to be arrested for this murder (since innocent individuals wouldn't say that they were hired to conduct a hit; they would most likely say that they are innocent, which is what people expect a guilty person to say anyway).

Most government BlackOps (i.e., assassinations, staged terrorism, etc.) seem to be conducted in a sloppy manner, which is how we know about them in the first place. But that's not the most important thing as regards BlackOps. The most important aspect is that people have been indoctrinated and conditioned since birth by their respective governments; hence, regardless of how much evidence exists demonstrating the government's complicity, so long as the government maintains this hold on people minds then most people will go along with what the government tells them.

Anonymous at 07.16.06 - 12:58 am wrote:

""
(Also, aren't the late Mr. Zebuhr's supposed ties to Minnesota rather overstated by you? Zebuhr was there with his mother to visit his sister, a student up there, not to do 9/11 stuff, as far as I could tell.)
""

This obvious assassination was meant to send a message to those in the 9/11 Truth movement. The apparent especially high-level of corruption in Minnesota would simply help ensure that no genuine investigation would be conducted by the bureaucracy, and that any loose ends would be covered up. Whether or not Michael Zebuhr was there to do "9/11 stuff" would be irrelevant to that.

If government agents were

If government agents were really going to murder Michael Zebuhr, whould they give the job to these bungling idiots who ran a red light, threw guns out of their car, crashed, & got caught by local police???
""

The U.S. government could very well had simply hired some street thugs to carry out the hit. In this manner, their only contact with the U.S. government in terms of setting up the hit would be through their paymaster (or their gang leader, who in turn would be the contact man with the paymaster), whom I'm pretty sure wouldn't have given out his legal name to them. Hence, maintaining so-called "plausible deniability."

Wouldn't the goverment use professionals for a hit like this? Wouldn't the gov't worry that in addition to getting caught, the bugling idiots or their "paymaster" could leave a trail or spill some beans?

Anonymous at 07.16.06 - 3:07

Anonymous at 07.16.06 - 3:07 pm, you wrote:

""
Wouldn't the goverment use professionals for a hit like this? Wouldn't the gov't worry that in addition to getting caught, the bugling idiots or their "paymaster" could leave a trail or spill some beans?
""

The U.S. government could use a highly trained assassin in such a case as this. But hired street thugs would probably be more convenient.

As I previously said regarding your concern, most government BlackOps (i.e., assassinations, staged terrorism, etc.) seem to be conducted in a sloppy manner, which is how we know about them in the first place. But that's not the most important thing as regards BlackOps. The most important aspect is that people have been indoctrinated and conditioned since birth by their respective governments; hence, regardless of how much evidence exists demonstrating the government's complicity, so long as the government maintains this hold on people's minds then most people will go along with what the government tells them.

So in a case like this, using street thugs would work out well enough. Any sloppiness on their part could be covered up after the fact by corrupt officials and most people would go along.

After all, there had to be at least some amount of so-called "sloppiness" to the hit, otherwise it wouldn't have sent any message if it had actually looked like a mugging gone wrong. That is, it had to be an obvious assassination in order to send a message. Just as with the blatantly obvious assassinations of Dr. David Kelly and Gary Webb. The message being sent in all of these cases is "We can get away with flagrantly obvious murder, because we own the apparatuses of law and major media, and hence we are the ones investigating the very crimes we ourselves committed. So don't fuck with us if you know what's good for you."

Also from Nafeez Ahmed's

Also from Nafeez Ahmed's Statement:

"Similarly ignored is the evidence from a Times investigation that some of the four had attended Finsbury Park mosque and were inspired by Abu HamzaÂ’s inflammatory preaching. And further overlooked is the connection to Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, an al-Qaeda IT expert whose laptop contained details of these very plans to attack, among other targets, the London Underground. The four were associated with networks with whom Noor Khan had been communicating, which were known to British police."

More information is available here:

http://gaelicstarover.blogspot.com/2006/07/leak-none-dared-call-treason.html

Please sign the petition to investigate this outrage:

http://petitiononline.com/noorkhan/petition.html

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GW Bush..... Who will rid me

GW Bush..... Who will rid me of this man?