In defense of the conspiratorial world view
In defense of the conspiratorial world view
by Jay Esbe - OpEd News
...A lot of effort goes into "debunking" conspiracy theories, and certainly there are many which are absurd, and poorly defended. But the tendency to find conspiracies to explain events, is anything but rooted in ignorance.
One of the things which separates man from the rest of the Animal kingdom, is his intellectual capacity to recognize patterns. A human being sees a square peg and a square hole, and knows they go together. A monkey presumably has trouble unless taught.
The tendency to skepticism is not always a sign of intelligence. Sometimes, when otherwise intelligent people dismiss the connection between a square peg and a square hole, it's because they've been conditioned to ignore it. I believe this is the case with much of the self-proclaimed intellectual elite's disdain for so-called "conspiracy theories"; people have to be taught, or otherwise pressured not to see the pattern...
...We use the concept of conspiracy every day in our legal system, and there would be many thousands more criminals walking our streets were we not to recognize and include the concept of conspiracy in trials. Yet somehow, a vastly different standard has been applied to certain historic crimes over the decades when the public demands a logical explanation for the extraordinary events in question.
Current polls now show that a majority of Americans believe the government is not telling them the truth about 9-11. That fact now makes the majority of Americans "conspiracy theorists" regarding the issue. It is now a minority of the public who believes they were told the truth by the Bush appointed 9-11 Commission, but such is not the case among the so-called "mainstream media". It is nearly universally hostile to any question of a cover-up by the government. Those who need the world to make sense do not find the disparity between public opinion and the media elite's contempt for suspicion to be meaningless. They reasonably look for a vested conflict of interest on the part of the corporate media to explain why presumably intelligent professionals go soft in the head, and they do not have to look far to find one; a media which sits in an unelected advisory capacity to the President of the United States through the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), innumerable "think tanks" funded by corporate interests all assuming a global model is "inevitable", and directly attached special interests which include the world's biggest defense contractors raking billions of dollars in for share holders as they pursue the war profits of 9-11. People who point out the obvious are not wearing tin foil hats, they're simply...pointing out the obvious...
(Actually, I consider "consipracy theorist" to be a bit of a nuisance tag these days, but Esbe still makes some interesting points. Here, OpEd News offers a counterpoint to Esbe, by Larry Sakin. Thanks, fhb.)
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jack blood was sitting in
jack blood was sitting in for alex on friday's (7/14) show. alex called check in 'from the road'. i believe he's out - infowars been rebroadcasting old shows over the weekend.
maybe, but ive never seen
maybe, but ive never seen his site go without an update for this long.
is Alex Jones dead or
is Alex Jones dead or something? his site hasnt been updated in days.thats not like him.
maybe he is on vacation..
maybe he is on vacation..
Five years after 9/11,
Five years after 9/11, political fallout continues
How common ground after attacks gave way to partisan split
Updated: 11:33 p.m. ET July 15, 2006
It was the moment that was supposed to change everything. But almost five years after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, American politics has reverted to many of its old habits and patterns
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13880686/
9/11 Was a Hoax: How and
9/11 Was a Hoax: How and When I Knew It
http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2004/12/911-was-hoax-how-and-when-i-kn...
Chris: Alex Jones probably
Chris: Alex Jones probably attends the global elite's annual gathering at the Bohemian Grove these days. ;-)
is that going on right now?
is that going on right now?
It takes part in July.
It takes part in July.
Lifting a few more lines
Lifting a few more lines from that op-ed, ...
"We are currently residing in a kind of peril most Americans are unaware of. Although the rampant law breaking of George W. Bush is openly discussed, the notion that a demonstratedly criminal administration would commit every crime imaginable and lie about virtually everything with the sole exception of the one event that enables them to continue to commit the crimes, is still something which will result in rabid a attacks on anyone who dares to ask the obvious question. The nationalistic intimidation campaign we've all witnessed after September 11th continues, although crippled by the exposures regarding Iraq and the so-called "intelligence failures", and 9-11 is the last taboo question remaining which can still get you fired from your job or simply ordered off a television news interview if you dare to ask. But given the magnitude of the crimes in office which have already been exposed, allowing one's self to be pressured out of asking the hard questions about September 11th almost eliminates any meaning to any other recognition by the public of all the other crimes in evidence; 9-11 is the cornerstone of every so-called justification for every illegal act commited by the administration, overt or occult, and until 9-11 is confronted with the same level of skepticism as WMD in Iraq and phony claims of "intelligence failure" have been, the American people are still residing on a fulcrum who's tipping point is in the hands of a criminal mad-man."
hmmmm, maybe Alex Jones is
hmmmm, maybe Alex Jones is there then. i guess it would make sense for him not to promote something like that before the fact.
The counterpoint to that
The counterpoint to that op-ed included the following:
"Honestly, I don't know what happened on 9/11. Until I see some forensic evidence to prove the official version is wrong, I'll stick with what is known."
He doesn't know what happened, but will stick with what 'is known.' If he is referring to what he knows, he is saying he will stick with nothing. If he is referring to what 'is known' by others, he is saying he wishes to be led by others, others of his choosing.
Off topic, but
Off topic, but relevant.
From Wayne Madison:
July 16, 2006 -- EXCLUSIVE TO WMR. Our intelligence sources in Lebanon have reported to us exclusively that Israel is now using poison gas and depleted uranium shells on towns in the south of Lebanon. Residents of the small village of Kasarshoba became violently ill, experiencing severe vomiting, after the Israelis hit the village with poison gas. In other cases, underground shelters in southern Lebanon were hit by Israeli depleted uranium shells. Our sources also report that the entire southern suburbs of southern Beirut, with a population of 800,000, have been totally depopulated. Israel has targeted thousands of civilian homes for destruction.
Meanwhile, Israeli government spokespersons and Bush administration officials took to the Sunday morning talking head programs in Washington to defend Israel's barbarous actions. The networks failed to present the views of Lebanese government spokespersons. Israel's and the Bush administration's line is that Israeli attacks are "precision targeted." Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice pointedly refused to criticize Israel on ABC's This Week.
Israeli Kadima (ex-Likud) Prime Minister joins Ariel Sharon in annals of Israeli leaders who committed war crimes in Lebanon.
American media is failing to report that the Israeli attacks on Lebanon and Gaza, like the U.S. attacks in Iraq, are violations of the Fourth Geneva Convention and Additional Protocols governing military attacks on civilians by governments that are parties to the conventions:
Civilians are not to be subject to attack. This includes direct attacks on civilians and indiscriminate attacks against areas in which civilians are present.
There is to be no destruction of property unless justified by military necessity.
Warring parties must not use or develop biological or chemical weapons
Jim Norton from the O&A show
Jim Norton from the O&A show is a massive fucking tool.i just got done e-mailing back and forth with him over his uninformed rightwing views.what a waste of time.
is Alex Jones dead or
is Alex Jones dead or something? his site hasnt been updated in days.thats not like him.
Chris | Homepage | 07.16.06 - 8:52 am | #
Maybe hes rethinking his stance on Israel.
On another note, how about that Leiberman shilling away for war.
http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=5153210&nav=3YeX
what do you mean by that
what do you mean by that Doug? how do you percieve Alex Jones stance on Israel?
Lieberman is typical scum. i
Lieberman is typical scum. i hate him more than most republicans.thats saying something.
Alex Jones has a lot of good
Alex Jones has a lot of good stories on his site right now that strongly condemn Israel for its actions as of late. do you have a problem with that?
9/11 Was a Hoax: How and
9/11 Was a Hoax: How and When I Knew It
http://winterpatriot.blogspot.co...-i-knew- it.html
Chris | Homepage | 07.16.06 - 9:20 am | #
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Chris,
Good read!
yeah, i never heard of the
yeah, i never heard of the guy before, but i thought it was good read too.found the link on a BradBlog.com thread.
So ... I have been
So ... I have been suspicious of the 'official story' ever since 9/11. Or perhaps I should rephrase that. Suppose Rumsfeld had come on TV and said "You have just witnessed a military coup d'etat. We are in control now. No further dissent will be tolerated. That is all." If he had said that instead of what he did say, I would not have been surprised. Let's put it that way.
now thats good shit.
what do you mean by that
what do you mean by that Doug? how do you percieve Alex Jones stance on Israel?
Chris | Homepage | 07.16.06 - 11:44 am | #
If Im wrong Im wrong, I was under the understanding that he didnt acknowledge Israel being behind numerous black ops. Do I stand corrected??
he may not go as far as some
he may not go as far as some people would like in regards to Israel, but he is in no way an "apologist" like a guy like David Leakey would say he is.(see threads below for how he attacks at least 6 major 9/11 researchers for not going far enough on Israel.)
Already saw it, he buys
Already saw it, he buys Daryl B Smith all the way, who I think hurts 911 truth by going to far and mixing all kinds of odd topics in with his 911 truth discussions.
July 16, 2006 -- EXCLUSIVE
July 16, 2006 -- EXCLUSIVE TO WMR. Our intelligence sources in Lebanon have reported to us exclusively that Israel is now using poison gas and depleted uranium shells on towns in the south of Lebanon... -- R | 07.16.06 - 10:08 am
Israel is now using poison gas on innocent civilians?
How ironic..., and evil.
The descendants of the world's most pitied victims are now among the world's most disgusting victimizers --- along with the United States.
We believe in many big lies.
We believe in many big lies. Not just 9/11.
http://anythingexceptthetruth.blogspot.com/2006/07/we-love-to-believe-bi...
Please check this out, it's too important to miss.
I think this evidence of expansion tectonics can be used to convince anyyone that conspiracy theorists and other crackpots aren't always wrong, even when the vast majority of the scientific community thinks they're crazy!
It seemed strange that they
It seemed strange that they didn't have any idea what was happening or who was doing it at 9:00 in the morning [of 9/11] but by 9:00 at night the whole complicated plot had been solved. Very strange indeed.
Great line!
It takes part in July. Jon
It takes part in July.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.16.06 - 9:47 am | #
the 2nd weekend, so would that be last weekend (july 1 was a saturday) or this weekend?
Either way a lot of junk going on around the globe.
[sarcasm]
At least "America's Got Talent" is still on TV!
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Im surprised Alex Jones can
Im surprised Alex Jones can do what he does every week day nonstop. Ive never been mor eenvigorated by a radio personality/activist in ages. Alex Jones is exciting...call him a blow hard, clal him over the top, but he has way too many prominent guests and tackles so many far reaching issues(like government land grabbing of private property) to be merely dismissed.
i agree pocky, he deserves
i agree pocky, he deserves respect.
I'll third that^!
I'll third that^!