The Bold Outlines Of a Plot
And government propaganda hits a new low:
Yes, that's right, a comic about the attacks is set for publication late next month.
The comic book is aimed at the "kids, teenagers and adults" unlikely to read the government's nearly 600-page version, says illustrator Ernie Colón. (Castlebridge Enterprises)
Industry veterans Sid Jacobson and Ernie Colón have collaborated to produce "The 9/11 Report: A Graphic Adaptation," which is being published by Hill and Wang, the nonfiction imprint of Farrar, Straus and Giroux.
The book condenses the nearly 600-page federal report released by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States to fewer than 150 pages, and the creators say they hope their book will help attract young readers and others who might be overwhelmed by the original document.
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What's all this
What's all this then?
http://www.severevisibility.com/
http://www.prleap.com/pr/4135
http://www.prleap.com/pr/41357/
News Released: July 17, 2006
New 9/11 conspiracy feature film probes government's version of the Pentagon attack.
(PRLEAP.COM) What really happened at the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. on September 11, 2001? Did an American Airlines 757 dive into the five-sided building at the control of foreign terrorists as the government has relentlessly insisted, or did something else strike the building on that fateful day in America? This is what the new feature film, Severe Visibility, explores. The film, written and directed by Paul Cross, examines the events of that day through the eyes of an Army Major, an employee at the Pentagon who was injured when the incident occurred but is confused by the official report which contradicts his eye witness recollection. Major Kruter finds himself questioning his own sanity when he realizes that he was standing by the window in the exact direction and time that the 757 was allegedly making its way to its target but amazingly didn’t see the gigantic aircraft approach or strike the building. Kruter’s situation is intensified when he meets a foreign investigative reporter who claims to have discovered what actually did happen at the Pentagon that day and tries to convince the Major to help him make the information public. Kruter’s self-questioning sanity is opposed by his sense of patriotism ultimately setting him on a collision course with his inescapable destiny.
In the end Severe Visibility does not attempt to definitively make its claim as to what actually did happen at the Pentagon on 9/11 but will certainly give the viewer a new and provocative look at the Bush Administrations account of the events of September 11, 2001.
Nothing surprises me anymore
Nothing surprises me anymore with these guys. To quote a famous hair metal band "Are you gettin it? Yes, Armageddon it!"
Remember the NYC tunnel bomb
Remember the NYC tunnel bomb plot reported just weeks ago?
They said the suspect was held in Beirut, Lebanon - could this have something to do with Israel's new attacks on Lebanon?
Hit
Hit piece.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060715.wxrex15/BNSt...
Now what we need is a comic
Now what we need is a comic book version of "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" by David Ray Griffin.
Then perhaps the supporters of George Bush will at least look at the pretty drawings.
Actually, I think Kean,
Actually, I think Kean, Hamilton, et al should get into the comic book business, because their report has about as much base in reality as Superman.
Just something I wanted to
Just something I wanted to voice in a hurry:
There is eyewitness evidence (by none other than Minister of Transportation Norman Mineta) that places Dick Cheney in the White House command bunker before the plane hit the building -- and he was discussing the approaching plane with his subordinate. Yet the building was not evacuated, which could have saved about 170 lives! Isn't this enough grounds for a court case?! Isn't anyone pursuing this? (I mean, everyone is just happy to say they have multiple evidence that Cheney was there at the time and knew what was going on, but what about acting on that information?)
I'm just furiously frustrated and I know it's not that easy, but still...
Can you imagine the people
Can you imagine the people who will rely on this comic book for their information? You know the ones, the ones "who might be overwhelmed by the original document".
I wonder how they're going to depict, "To date, the U.S. government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance."
"Now what we need is a comic
"Now what we need is a comic book version of "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" by David Ray Griffin."
I believe that if some people in the mouvement have the talent, the time and dedication to do it, I think the above statement should be taken very seriously. As well as the book of Griffin is a counterweight of the official 9/11 Commission Report, a truth comik book would be a nice asset for the mouvement. It would be fighting back with the same weapon of the ennemi.
Well, of course the comic
Well, of course the comic books, Hollywood movies, etc, are all means of taking the official white wash to the masses on their own terms. You gotta dumb down, in other words. Next thing we will see are 9/11 reality shows, video games, music videos, etc.
"Hit
"Hit piece.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/s...y/National/ home
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.17.06 - 8:59 am | #"
If you're familiar with Canada's Nationwide television news station, CBC, then you would already know that Rex Murphy, the guy who wrote that hit-piece for the Globe and Mail, is a freak with a capital F.
[ http://www.cbc.ca/checkup/host.html ]
He's a freak.
When the 17 alleged terror plotters were recently arrested in Ontario, the CBC had a broadcast report by Rex Murphy, and he played so incredibly heavily on the "terrorists are everywhere, give up your liberty and bow down to the government. go along with the Afghanistan mission. 9/11 9/11 9/11 terrorists are radical muslims. we're not safe in Canada anymore, the conservative government will save us from the terrorists blah blah blah" nonsense.
I would have loved to record it from the television, because I don't remember exactly what he said, but it was virtually all nonsense. And this fear mongering of his was, of course, still before there had been any evidence presented against the alleged 17 -- something that still has not been presented to the public, I might add.
Only freaks and weirdos follow/agree with anything Rex Murphy has to say. I wouldn't let it worry you much. Of course, any hit-piece should be pointed out and smashed, but his voice isn't that loud, he doesn't really matter.
He's a freak. Watch the CBC some time when he's doing a feature and see what I mean lol
RE a comic book of Griffin,
RE a comic book of Griffin, Tarpley et al's theories: I think the problem with making a comic book out of any 9/11 Truth theories, is we do not know exactly the truth. Therefore the advantages goes to the white washers, who create their "truth" as needed. We, on the other hand, are handicapped by having theories, not the truth. And to create a graphic novel based on theories and conjecture is not what the movement should be doing- but perhaps a non-dramatic comic compendium of the known facts would work.
TNF said: ""Now what we need
TNF said:
""Now what we need is a comic book version of "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" by David Ray Griffin."
I believe that if some people in the mouvement have the talent, the time and dedication to do it, I think the above statement should be taken very seriously."
Eric B. siad:
....perhaps a non-dramatic comic compendium of the known facts would work.
I made the original statement about a comic version of "9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" only half tougue-in-cheek. In the back of my mind, I was wondering about the feasability of it being done.
My thoughts right now are that individual comic pamphlets could be created, sort of like religious tracks, that could be handed out, put on bulletin boards and left at various locations. Each would have their own subject, (each established as fact) like WTC 7, the USAF Stand Down, Minetta's testimony on the "young man", etc. I am a cartoonist, but I'm not sure yet how I can do this. I'm thinking.
Eric, as my position has
Eric, as my position has always been not promoting any theories, but instead, pointing to unanwsered questions. We don't have the truth, we demand it. Let's demonstrate that the OV doesn't add up and never stop pointing to the unanwsered questions. That's MHO. :)
Alex, the idea of individual
Alex, the idea of individual pamphlets is great. People love comic stripe. I see this as valuable flyers.
TNF... yes, the more I think
TNF... yes, the more I think about it, the more 911 comic tracts seems like a valid idea. Making it happen is a whole 'nother matter. I will be looking onto this... and perhaps creating a sample.
Remember how Philip
Remember how Philip Zelikow's (the true creator of the Kean Report) academic training was (according to Wikipedia) the "area of academic expertise is the creation and maintenance of, in his words, “public myths” or “public presumptions,” which he defines as “beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community." In his academic work and elsewhere he has taken a special interest in what he has called “‘searing’ or ‘molding’ events [that] take on ‘transcendent’ importance and, therefore, retain their power even as the experiencing generation passes from the scene."
Undoubtedly this is his handiwork...
I like the idea of our comic book based on Griffin's book. Somebody step up.
This is Sue who sent the
This is Sue who sent the article in! This is NEW LOW! We need to STOP this ASAP! Not only are they promoting a comic book but WRONGLY promoting the BIG LIES about 9-11 too! So next generations will NOT hold the traitorous,lying, mass murdering S.O.B's accountable EITHER!
Someone should recruit a
Someone should recruit a good graphic artist and create the 9/11 Truth card set. I'm not kidding!
Anonymous, Where is your
Anonymous, Where is your proof Mineta will talk? He had better be careful, they "suicide" people! Do you have proof, i.e. somewhere where Mineta talks?
Off subject: Anyone notice
Off subject: Anyone notice that most if not all headlines on CNN, MSNBC et al state things along the lines of "Hezbollah rockets strikes Israel, Hezbollah bombs Israel, etc", never the other way around. Something tells me the truth of what is happening over there is much different.
My nomination for Propaganda Piece of the Day goes to...
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/07...
"All propaganda must be
"All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our public, and too much caution cannot be exerted in this direction" - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
Mack White's got some good
Mack White's got some good comics on the topic -
http://mackwhite.com/BushJunta8.html
Does anyone here think that
Does anyone here think that the criminals behind Bush (who are running the show) are now actually going ahead FULL THROTTLE to distort and pervert the facts about Israel/Lebanon/Syria/Iran and Hezbollah? The "news" that the U.S. media is pumping out is so one-sided and twisted?
Could it be that the criminals in our federal government know full well that people are catching on FAST to 9/11 and to the ridiculous story they've forced-fed the public?
Could they know that their days are numbered before it is openly accepted and discussed what has been hidden about 9/11? And that more whistleblowers are on their way out of the closet about what they know?
With this, could it be that they don't give a damn what happen in the Middle East and now want as much conflict, destruction, and distraction to take the heat off that is starting to come on them hard for 9/11?
The comic book is aimed at
The comic book is aimed at the "kids, teenagers and adults" unlikely to read the government's nearly 600-page version, says illustrator Ernie Colón. (Castlebridge Enterprises)
And at Red-State Bush-loving morons of all ages!
We, on the other hand, are
We, on the other hand, are handicapped by having theories, not the truth
we should not be handicapped by not having the truth, it should be a simple matter to show that events did not happen the way the 911 commission has reported.
ie:
*flight77 hit the pentagon -
oh did it? HUNT THE BOEING pentagon
*flight93 nosedived straight into the ground as a result of the brave karate-man passenger -
really? where? HUNT THE BOEING shanksville
*the twin towers collapsed in a gravity-driven pancake-like manner due to burning jet fuel -
hmmm, i don't think so. janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html
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it should be as easy as that.
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What if televisions started
What if televisions started "appearing" on sidewalks, highways, suburban streets, everywhere . . . with the screen cracked (hit just hard enough with a hard object to crack, not destroy it, which would release nasty toxic stuff)?
With enough TV's, the message would get out loud and clear:
ENOUGH OF YOUR PROPAGANDA.
Alex, good luck with the
Alex, good luck with the comics concept! Here's two you might want to glance at;
http://strawandclover.com
http://www.mackwhite.com/northwoods.html
A part of me is so angry
A part of me is so angry about all of this propaganda (the comic book, the crap being told to people about Israel to justify Israel's actions). It seems that getting 9/11 information out faster is even more imperative as chaos and craziness is erupting everywhere. I don't think I realized how even more dangerous 9/11 "official" lies are. They make you doubt almost everything that comes out of the Bush Administration's mouth, any government official, and all of the stupid stories from the media about the Middle East.
"With this, could it be that
"With this, could it be that they don't give a damn what happen in the Middle East and now want as much conflict, destruction, and distraction to take the heat off that is starting to come on them hard for 9/11?"
Well I totally agree. Without trying to sound too fatalistic, but these scoundrels will blow it all to hell before they allow themselves to be caught and tried. Imagine if Hitler had had the bomb. There you go.
Does it not disturb us that the people in charge of the US nuclear arsenal are also behind 9/11 and a thousand other lies and crimes against the peoples of the world?
truthsearching2006, there's
truthsearching2006, there's no doubt in my mind that the neocons aim to pack the media wall-to-wall with distorted and perverted facts about Israel/Lebanon/Syria/Iran and Hezbollah. This is their second 9/11, thanks to Israel. They will build on it big time, no question about it.
FrankC: Thanks for the
FrankC: Thanks for the links.
I hope to create a sample of what I'm talking about and have it up soon.
What Israel wants is what
What Israel wants is what they have always wanted: to use American power, American tax dollars, and American lives to advance their own expansionist agenda. Twenty-five thousand Americans are in Lebanon at the present moment, all of them at risk from Israeli bombs, but that didn't factor into Tel Aviv's calculations, any more than Lebanese or Palestinian lives matter one whit to them. The Israelis put Israel first, and so does Washington. If all 25,000 American tourists and others have to perish in the flames of Israeli air strikes, then so be it. No sacrifice is too great, just as long as our Israel-centric foreign policy remains firmly in place.
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Does it not disturb us that
Does it not disturb us that the people in charge of the US nuclear arsenal are also behind 9/11 and a thousand other lies and crimes against the peoples of the world?
Eric B | 07.17.06 - 10:50 am | #
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Eric, you friggin me out!!!
Well I have been saying all
Well I have been saying all along, the "Official Report" is comic book stuff. I guess they have been listening to me. Personally, I prefer Batman or Superman, it is more believable.
reinforce the myth. this
reinforce the myth. this really is a new low.
That new Pentagon movie,^
That new Pentagon movie,^ Severe Visibility” might be good at getting out the fact that AA-77 did not hit the Pentagon.
The “witnesses” who insist they saw AA-77 hit the Pentagon were plants.
Hani Hajour did not box-cut the pilots to death & fly the Boeing 250 miles back to D.C.
Hanjour did not do amazing acrobatics with a large airliner.
Hanjour did not disappear a large airliner into a 16-foot hole in the renovated wedge of the Pentagon, several feet above the ground.
More than 80 videos of what happened at the Pentagon are being withheld to hide the truth. The only video released looks nothing like a Boeing-757.
There is no way in hell that 63 of 64 people who exploded & smashed through the Pentagon @ 530 mph were ID’ed in any way, shape, or form. The fictitious DNA results were fabricated to bolster the “official story.”
I just spotted this for
I just spotted this for those who live in the Dallas area.. http://www.dallasairamerica.org/911event/911main.htm
I wrote a 911 truth comic 3
I wrote a 911 truth comic 3 months ago. Strawandclover.com It prints out on a single sheet of paper - & in 10 frames, a man taking an introspective walk thru the park, comes to the conclusion that the 911 Commission Report is bs. My intention is for people to print it & post it in public places. Now that a comic of the official story is coming out, IÂ’d like more ideas on how to get wide distribution of my piece. Any ideas? (Thanks to whoever posted my url a few posts ago.)
why is it that every message
why is it that every message board must be turned over to the Pentagon/CD/no-plane people?
its as if every discussion must be silenced - in favor of the physical evidence crowd.
i gave up debating this stuff long ago - but - its funny because Michael Ruppert talks about how CD is a psyop campaign to misdirect the 9/11 movement into asking the wrong questions.
now - i don't know about that. i am not saying i agree - or disagree - but - i do see that every intelligent discussion on ANY subject is purposely and willfully co-opted and taken over by the physical evidence no-planes, CD, Pentagon crowd.
This could be the product of immature personalities - i suppose. people who are obsessive compulsive and must childishly repeat the same stuff over and over and over again.
or - perhaps if i was paranoid i could - just for fun - speculate that it is a way to silence any real serious debate.
i was just counting the seconds before the Pentagon was mentioned on this board - and sure enough..... a plane does not fit through a 16 ft hole. (yawn)
interesting.
I think "Global Outlook" the
I think "Global Outlook" the only 9/11 truth magazine I know of, is the best way to spread 9/11 truth to those who aren't computer savy. The subscribtion rate is too pricy, though.
IMO, this magazine should be heavily subsidized, and/or given away for free by truthers to spread the word!!!
Look at issue #11 for example:
http://globaloutlook.ca/Pictures11.htm##11%20Front%20Cover
Extremely eye-catching & packed with key information!
more ideas on how to get
more ideas on how to get wide distribution of my piece.
wide distribution of your piece?
use a red sharpie marker and write the url strawandclover.com on every monetary bill that crosses your path. write the url on public restroom walls. write it on bus-stop benches and public trash cans. print out a million flyers of your comic and white glue some of them to metal light posts and leave stacks of them at libraries and cockail lounges. write strawandclover.com in giant letters on the back of your car and in white paint on the back of your black leather jacket.
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Albanese, if that's really
Albanese, if that's really you, physics don't lie! We need to promote ALL available evidence, not only the circumstantial 6-degrees of separation stuff.
Yes, IMO, Civil disobedience
Yes, IMO, Civil disobedience is necessary in dire times like these.
http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.c
http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war55.html
sorry if this was posted before, but since we're talking about comics. I've been following this one for a while now. Insanely funny stuff.
@John Albanese: - i do see
@John Albanese:
- i do see that every intelligent discussion on ANY subject is purposely and willfully co-opted and taken over by the physical evidence no-planes, CD, Pentagon crowd.
if i was paranoid i could - just for fun - speculate that it is a way to silence any real serious debate.
why don't you talk about and debate whatever it is you want to talk about and debate? do you have anything of substance to say besides the discussion/debate is not up to my invisible standards?
don't attack and belittle. say something real.
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I doubt that's the real
I doubt that's the real Albanese.^ Just ignore he/she/it.^
A new DVD , "911 Mysteries"
A new DVD , "911 Mysteries" Part 1: Demolitions" will be released before Sept. 11, 2006. It is now in the final production stages, and there is MAJOR new material in it. Prepare to be frickin blown away.
what kind of moron would
what kind of moron would actually pretend to be john albanese?
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Lame hit-piece mixing 9/11
Lame hit-piece mixing 9/11 truth with fake moonlandings, Elvis and Superman
'Why we love to conspire'
http://www.7days.ae/2006/07/17/why-we-love-to-conspire.html
but you know, he IS right
but you know, he IS right about one thing: all the discussion about the pentagon is pointless - all you have to say is show me the plane.
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I have no doubt that that is
I have no doubt that that is the real John Albanese.
Someone just said this to me on another site that I'm no longer going to give traffic to.
Jon - "But wasn't it Bush specifically who asked his pricipals to find a "way" to invade Iraq not 10 days after his inauguration? Seems to me like he found that "way".
Thanks Jon. So they decided to fly missile firing airplanes drone holographs into the WTC, send a cruise missle into the Pentagon, scatter the incorrect wreckage in the incorrect places, fake all the phone calls, stand down NORAD, make a plane disappear into thin air, etc etc.
Thanks Hologram/Missile/Drone/Planted Plane Parts as Evidence people. If not for you, the anti-truthers would have nothing in their arsenal to use against the likes of me.
Thanks a bunch!
Incidentally, why are we still "debating" 9/11 on the internet?
Why aren't we out in the streets doing our best to educate people?
Why aren't we starting local 9/11 groups like Wendi just did?
My two cents.
I wrote a 911 truth comic 3
I wrote a 911 truth comic 3 months ago. Strawandclover.com It prints out on a single sheet of paper - & in 10 frames, a man taking an introspective walk thru the park, comes to the conclusion that the 911 Commission Report is bs. My intention is for people to print it & post it in public places. Now that a comic of the official story is coming out, IÂ’d like more ideas on how to get wide distribution of my piece. Any ideas? (Thanks to whoever posted my url a few posts ago.)
Dave Koressel | Homepage | 07.17.06 - 11:21 am | #
I cannot get it to print on an 8.5 x 11 inch paper. Can anyone give me technical step by step instructions on how to get it to print that way? When I tried, it was many times too big to be printed on one page.
If that's the real Albanese,
If that's the real Albanese, which I still doubt, then his is talking very foolishly.
Thanks Jon. So they decided
Thanks Jon. So they decided to fly missile firing airplanes drone holographs into the WTC, send a cruise missle into the Pentagon, scatter the incorrect wreckage in the incorrect places, fake all the phone calls, stand down NORAD, make a plane disappear into thin air, etc etc.
Jon, don't let people twist our irrefutable physical evidence into a one-sentence summary of bullshit! These are obvious disinfo agents at work!
... all you have to say is
... all you have to say is show me the plane.
james ha | Homepage | 07.17.06 - 11:53 am | #
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... or WHY should anything allowed to hit the Pentagone.
Albanese's film was rubbish
Albanese's film was rubbish anyway.
Dave- Love your strip, saw
Dave-
Love your strip, saw it a few months ago for the first time. Any chance of developing it further, with more interesting points and some color?
Albanese film suffered
Albanese film suffered severely from not including evidence of controlled demolition and the questions about the Pentagon. you can ask questions and show evidence of these things without marrying the position that CD was used and Flight 77 didnt hit the Pentagon. some people dont understand that, and they think you should pretend that there are no questions about how the towers fell and about what hit the Pentagon.this is pure bullshit in my opinion, but some people want to be "safe". they actually think us discussing controlled demolition hurts the movement.its compelling evidence that should not be ignored.it only helps the movement and causes people to have more questions.
"i was just counting the
"i was just counting the seconds before the Pentagon was mentioned on this board - and sure enough..... a plane does not fit through a 16 ft hole. (yawn)
interesting.
John Albanese | 07.17.06 - 11:28 am | # "
lol Exactly, John.
And I've shown photographic proof to the Anonymous poster who wrote that about the "16 foot hole", that there is wing damage on both sides of that fuselage impact hole. And that the main left wing damage is a completely smashed through ground floor wall of the outer facade -- stretching for about 20 feet away from the left-side of the fuselage impact hole.
- [ http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/1879/leftwingimpactzonezi5.jpg ]
- [ http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4457/woodsupportswt3.jpg ]
&
- [ http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5619/pentagon911bloggerej2.jpg ]
Yet he/she continues to incesently propagate that "16 foot hole" lie.
Don't worry about them, John. They don't matter.
Right-on, Chris!!!
Right-on, Chris!!!
- Ø®£Z - Oh, and
- Ø®£Z - Oh, and you're not a fraud? What else about the "official story" is gospel truth besides the Pentagon, shill?
Answer these, fraud: Hani
Answer these, fraud:
Hani Hajour did not box-cut the pilots to death & fly the Boeing 250 miles back to D.C.
Hanjour did not do amazing acrobatics with a large airliner.
Hanjour did not disappear a large airliner into a 16-foot hole in the renovated wedge of the Pentagon, several feet above the ground.
More than 80 videos of what happened at the Pentagon are being withheld to hide the truth. The only video released looks nothing like a Boeing-757.
There is no way in hell that 63 of 64 people who exploded & smashed through the Pentagon @ 530 mph were ID’ed in any way, shape, or form. The fictitious DNA results were fabricated to bolster the “official story.”
"Albanese's film was rubbish
"Albanese's film was rubbish anyway."
That's not nice Sandy. Nor is it true.
And NORAD let's a hijacked
And NORAD let's a hijacked airliner slam the Pentagon an hour after 2 other hijacked airliners slammed the WTC! GTFOOH.
It wan't rubbish by any
It wan't rubbish by any means, but it was totally devoid of compelling physical evidence. As such, it should be shown together with other videos like LC2E.
It's funny to me... People
It's funny to me...
People like Terrence and S. King can ONLY focus on Controlled Demolition and the Pentagon.
Some people within the movement can ONLY focus on Controlled Demolition and the Pentagon.
Is that all that happened before, during, and after 9/11?
- Ø®£Z - How did
- Ø®£Z - How did the Boeing 757 disappear, including all 240 seats & luggage, but they ID'ed 63 of 64 "passengers"???
"How did the Boeing 757
"How did the Boeing 757 disappear, including all 240 seats & luggage, but they ID'ed 63 of 64 "passengers"???"
Don't you know? The planes were swapped for Global Hawks, and the passengers were taken to a remote location, and murdered in cold blood.
http://img384.imageshack.us/
http://img384.imageshack.us/ img3...pactzonezi5.jpg
hey - Ø®£Z -, what are those, intact glass windows? haha!
show me the plane. or at least an authentic part of it.
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So Jon, lay out some of your
So Jon, lay out some of your evidence on us?
"So Jon, lay out some of
"So Jon, lay out some of your evidence on us?"
You sound JUST like Terrence and S. King.
I wonder why the fuck that is.
Jon, you're beginning to
Jon, you're beginning to irritate me. AA77 did not hit the Pentagon, and deep down, you know it.
I don't have to do
I don't have to do jack-shit. Not for someone named Anonymous. Not for someone named Terrence, and not for someone named S. King.
"Jon, you're beginning to
"Jon, you're beginning to irritate me. AA77 did not hit the Pentagon, and deep down, you know it."
Good. I like to irritate people.
Olmert just dropped "9/11"
Olmert just dropped "9/11" in his speech. As we all thought...it's on.
We have to keep fighting!
"How did the Boeing 757
Answer: Drones and/or missiles or bombs don't have 240 seats nor luggage.
"Answer: Drones and/or
"Answer: Drones and/or missiles or bombs don't have 240 seats nor luggage."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Keep it up! You're doing great!
my apologies for a bad link
my apologies for a bad link - here, the intact glass windows are just to the right of the red line:
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/1879/leftwingimpactzonezi5.jpg
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And James... You're doing
And James... You're doing great to!
Hmmm.....maybe terrence and
Hmmm.....maybe terrence and s.king focus on it cause it is important...
No Jon, you're doing great
No Jon, you're doing great in promoting the "official story."
Again, thank you ALL for
Again, thank you ALL for your wonderful theories presented as fact time and time again.
You've only fucking destroyed this movement.
THANKS A BUNCH!
I wonder how they're going
I wonder how they're going to depict, "To date, the U.S. government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. Ultimately the question is of little practical significance."
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.17.06 - 9:16 am | #
[sarcasm]
Jon, come on, it only cost about $500k to pull it off, so each life only cost about $167 to take. Who cares about that? And just because 20% of the money was wired from a member of Pakistani's ISI, who cares?
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"No Jon, you're doing great
"No Jon, you're doing great in promoting the "official story."
Go... Fuck... Your... Self.
Jon, get hold of yourself.
Jon, get hold of yourself. You're talking like a blithering idiot today, if that's really you.
Anonymous | 07.17.06 - 9:12
Anonymous | 07.17.06 - 9:12 am | #
Precisely! I don't care WHAT people think hit it, the point is nothing was done and something should've been.
"Jon, get hold of yourself.
"Jon, get hold of yourself. You're talking like a blithering idiot today, if that's really you."
Actually Anonymous/S. King/Terrence...
I'm talking like someone who is fucking fed up with all of this time-wasting debate.
Don't bash our overwhelming
Don't bash our overwhelming physical evidence, and you won't get into trouble, Jon.
"Don't bash our overwhelming
"Don't bash our overwhelming physical evidence, and you won't get into trouble, Jon."
Oh don't you worry fucktard. I'm done.
Maybe I'll have to take a
Maybe I'll have to take a ride out to Norrisville or wherever you are & talk some sense into you?
Those of you who continue
Those of you who continue with the pointless debate and namecalling might wanna watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE9TLgCVLBM
Then decide if that is the best use of your time.
somebigguy, I think Jon
somebigguy, I think Jon needs to cool it re: his contempt of 9/11 physical evidence.
Those of you that are
Those of you that are sincere out there: Ya'll are being played....by being dragged into childish arguements that can't be "proved" based on the available evidence.
When the discussion deteriorates to this level, the other side is smiling.
Knock it off and grow up.
and that's quite a
and that's quite a discoloration on those red bricks that the left wing of 757 flight77 made - i wonder where the left wing went after it made that little mark?
i don't know but pointing out discrepancies like that is making my movement hurt! ow my movement hurts!
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"Ya'll are being
"Ya'll are being played....by being dragged into childish arguements that can't be "proved" based on the available evidence."
DING
So keep it up folks. I'll see you at the 50 year 9/11 Truth Movement reunion.
what physical evidence? most
what physical evidence? most of the 911 fairytale is based on claims for which there is no physical evidence to back it up.
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COOL, I'll start doing one
COOL, I'll start doing one for us.
and now we'll get a 9/11
and now we'll get a 9/11 comic and the 9/11 report movie. That's where the O.V. belongs: to the world of fiction
somebigguy, thanks for
somebigguy, thanks for posting that heartbreaking youtube link above.
I use information like that as incentives to keep pressing onward in the truth!
Those poor guys, and thousands like them, did not deserve to die needless, horrible deaths like that!
That Bush pig & his minions have brazenly wiped the American Flag in the blood of innocent men, women, & children!!! They must be impeached & imprisoned now!!!
James Ha & Jon, The f*cking
James Ha & Jon,
The f*cking physical evidence you would understand if you had passed 8th grade physics!
Towers erupting & exploding,
Towers erupting & exploding, a massive steel framed building inexplicably impoding, with a shyster saying he & FDNY said pull-it; no evidence of a B-757 @ the Pentagon, but the passengers DNA'ed from there; UA93 disappearing into a whole in the ground, ridiculous cell phone calls & dialogs.....
You know, that evidence!
I agree Anonymous, that
I agree Anonymous, that video makes me extremely mad. Sometimes we need a little extra motivation.
Eric B, Israel is using gas
Eric B, Israel is using gas on innocent civilians and DU on them too! Which goes against International LAW! Every American needs to remember the U.S.S.Liberty and what Israel did to that and it's crew BEFORE they go "Gung HO' Israel! It was NOT an accident that Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967! They attacked our ship on purpose and even napaled ship and crew and even machine gunned people in life boats! Even an Israeli pilot admitted they knew it was a U.S. ship,who refused to bomb it and was arrested when he returned to Israel! Israel is NOT the innocent folks people think they are! They bombed their OWN embassy in 1994 and blamed Palenstine for it! That is NOT to say I agree with them taking two soldiers but taking two soldiers is alot different then GASING innocent civilians! We need more BALANCE in our national foreign policy towards Middle East and NOW! The survivors of U.S.S. Liberty are now taking their case before Navy and want a fulll investigation and also want Israel to be held accountable for war crimes against U.S. Military personel!
"The f*cking physical
"The f*cking physical evidence you would understand if you had passed 8th grade physics!"
Show me a video of a Global Hawk or an A-3 Sky Warrior striking the Pentagon please.
What's that you say? You can't?
Tell me... why is talking about things that you CAN'T prove more important than talking about things you can?
For instance. BushCo wanted to go to war with both Afghanistan and Iraq prior to 9/11. In the 9 months between his inauguration and 9/11, plans were developed for both of these wars. Neither of those wars would have been possible if not for 9/11.
9/11 happened, and this Administration did EVERYTHING in their power to make sure that no one found out how it happened.
When the time came for Bush and Cheney to be questioned about 9/11, they wouldn't do it under oath. They wouldn't do it publicly. They wouldn't do it without each other, and NO recording devices were allowed during their testimony.
I don't know, but to me, that is a CLEAR sign of PROVEABLE guilt.
So why don't you talk about it?
Even the "kidnapping" of the
Even the "kidnapping" of the 2 Israeli soldiers was probably an abduction by their own "black ops" for all we know.
No more bloodshed, no more wars for Israel!!!
Gold, stop trying to bash
Gold, stop trying to bash all of the laws of physics that were broken on 9/11.
We must use all physical evidence & all criminal behaviors that occurred before, during, & after 9/11.
Show me a video of AA77
Show me a video of AA77 hitting the Pentagon? Or even a still photo?
Why don't you talk about the
Why don't you talk about the PROVEN fact that Pakistan was involved, and the 9/11 Report didn't mention it?
Why don't you talk about the PROVEN fact there was no military response on 9/11?
Why don't you talk about the PROVEN fact that there was ample warnings indicating that 9/11 was going to take place?
Why don't you talk about the PROVEN fact that the Bush Administration was SO concerned with being caught that they appointed a member of their Administration to head the 9/11 Commission?
There are so many PROVEN facts, and yet, people like Anonymous can ONLY talk about Controlled Demolition, a theory, and a missile hitting the Pentagon, a theory.
Why is that?
Israel--2 of our "soldiers"
Israel--2 of our "soldiers" were "kidnapped." So let's bombard innocent people & bring the world to the brink of WWW-III. Fucking animals.
"Show me a video of AA77
"Show me a video of AA77 hitting the Pentagon? Or even a still photo?"
Why can't you ask for the videos to be released without speculating about what's on them, and without presenting your speculation as fact?
Jon, I think you're loosing
Jon, I think you're loosing your fucking marbles.
The physics evidence & the crimminal behaviors are NOT mutually exclusive!!! They paint an entire picture together!
Because it's been 5 years to
Because it's been 5 years to release those videos! That's proof in itself of a cover-up of some sort!
"Because it's been 5 years
"Because it's been 5 years to release those videos! That's proof in itself of a cover-up of some sort!"
And they can hold them for as long as they want, and as long as they hold them, and you speculate about what's on them, the people responsible for the deaths of 3000 people will never be held accountable.
It's far more than "wild
It's far more than "wild speculation" that AA-77 did NOT strike the Pentagon!
You're talking like an idiot today, Jon. Take a vaction or something.
How come no one is talking
How come no one is talking about the United States funneling money to the Pakistani ISI, and how that information was part of the 28 redacted pages in the Congressional Inquiry?
Hmmmm... money went from the U.S., to Pakistan, and into Mohammad Atta's pocket.
Yeah, I'd much rather talk about Global Hawk's.
"You're talking like an
"You're talking like an idiot today, Jon. Take a vaction or something."
And you're talking like S. King, Terrence, or Jim Fetzer. Take your pick.
ok 'Anonymous'. Every
ok 'Anonymous'. Every truther has the right not to push any THEORY. Things doesn't add up; expose it and reclaim real investigation. Period.
You have the right to hold your speculations, but don't blame others not to share it.
hey jon, anonymous et al..
hey jon, anonymous et al.. You guys need a chill pill. You are falling right into the mouth of the illuminati's "divide and conquer" philosophy. Don't let the lizard people control you! ;-)
And Sue, I agree with you. In fact, when I heard about this "two border soldiers kidnapped" thing, it all reminded me of the Nazi-Polish border affair that was just a bunch of hogwash.
Only a shill or a
Only a shill or a limited-hangout artist would support the "official story" on anything--that would be you, Jon! (Or S. King, Terrence)!
BTW, you couldn't shine Fetzer's shoes.
:) Thanks Jim.
:) Thanks Jim.
"Only a shill or a
"Only a shill or a limited-hangout artist would support the "official story" on anything--that would be you, Jon! (Or S. King, Terrence)!"
Gold is a shill who support the official story and I'm the pope.
Anon, you talk absolutely non-sense.
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Nice to meet you your
Nice to meet you your excellency.
I bless you and your genuine
I bless you and your genuine truther work, Mr. Gold.
:)
"I bless you and your
"I bless you and your genuine truther work, Mr. Gold."
You mean as opposed to Anonymous souls who's only purpose it seems is to start arguments, and distract people with bullshit?
Thanks.
Anyone, including Jon Gold,
Anyone, including Jon Gold, who thinks we should underplay all the laws of physcis that were inexplicably violated on 9/11 is a shill, a limited-hangout artist, or a fool. (Or all 3.)
That's what I mean. We can't
That's what I mean. We can't be fool about the motive of people who always aim to start infighting. It's sad though.
"You're talking like an
"You're talking like an idiot today, Jon. Take a vaction or something."
And you're talking like S. King, Terrence, or Jim Fetzer. Take your pick.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.17.06 - 1:26 pm | #
Wow, Jon, you link Jim Fetzer with shills like S. King & Terrence? You really are humped-up today, aren't you.
What about the motive of
What about the motive of "truthers" who are trying to bash our physical evidence?
And for the record, I
And for the record, I totally agree about CD at WTC and to "Where is the fuc*ing plane at Shankville". What hit the pentagone is very less obvious and I don't feel I have to speculate on this to spread the truth. But rather, asking WHY and HOW this building allowed to be hit more than an hour after the towers.
Don't hold our physics
Don't hold our physics evidence in contempt, that's all.
"What about the motive of
"What about the motive of "truthers" who are trying to bash our physical evidence?"
Would that be the Hologram evidence? The CGI evidence? The Mini-Nuke evidence? The Global Hawk evidence? The Pod evidence? The Blue Screen evidence?
Take your pick. It's all bullshit.
"How & why" can "excused"
"How & why" can "excused" away with "human error" or "poor judgement." Something other than AA-77 exploding at the Pentagon can not be "excused" away by "human error, or "poor judgement". Is this not obvious to you, shill?
Don't pull that cartoon
Don't pull that cartoon plane bullshit on me, asswipe. You know what evidence I mean you fucking fraud.
"How & why" can "excused"
"How & why" can "excused" away with "human error" or "poor judgement." Something other than AA-77 exploding at the Pentagon can not be "excused" away by "human error, or "poor judgement". Is this not obvious to you, shill?
Ah, and what happens when you show motive along with it? Suddenly, it's not so easy to "excuse" away with "human error" or "poor judgement" the PROVEN facts of 9/11.
Is this not obvious to you?
"Don't pull that cartoon
"Don't pull that cartoon plane bullshit on me, asswipe. You know what evidence I mean you fucking fraud."
You mean like the bullshit missile hitting the Pentagon theory was thrown on me? Seems to me like you're getting a little angry. Maybe you need to take a vacation.
Is calling anyone a shill
Is calling anyone a shill make you tickle? Enough with you, anon disturber.
Jon, didn't know one can stretch the word evidence as much as that. :)
Fuck you, Gold. That's why
Fuck you, Gold. That's why you present ALL evidence. Stop the circular argument, b.s. (If that really is Jon Gold I'm communicating with).
No, like the AA-77 hitting
No, like the AA-77 hitting the Pentagon bullshit.
Jerkoffs here want to agree
Jerkoffs here want to agree with the "official story" regarding the Pentagon. Goddamn liars. Might as well believe WTC-7 imploded due to melting from some office fires.
Fire is coming out of 4 or 5
Fire is coming out of 4 or 5 windows of the 2,500 windows at WTC-7, & then the colosus implodes in 7 seconds! We're just supposed to ignore this inexplicable phenomena???
I'll tell you what
I'll tell you what Anonymous... you keep playing with your Pentagon, and I'll continue fighting for my country. How's that?
You're a limited-hangout
You're a limited-hangout artist, Gold.
The f*cking physical
The f*cking physical evidence you would understand if you had passed 8th grade physics!
Anonymous
no evidence of a B-757 @ the Pentagon,
Anonymous
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that is a lack of physical evidence. the very point i was making.
official fairytale? show me the evidence!
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"Show me a video of AA77 hitting the Pentagon? Or even a still photo?"
Anonymous
Why can't you ask for the videos to be released without speculating about what's on them,
Gold
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since we have been officially informed that flight77 hit the pentagon, we can say, "show me the evidence of such" without it being speculation. in fact, to parrot said official claim without having been shown the evidence is itself speculation.
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"You're a limited-hangout
"You're a limited-hangout artist, Gold."
That's funny... last I checked, I was an American.
What hit the pentagone is
What hit the pentagone is very less obvious and I don't feel I have to speculate on this to spread the truth.
TNF
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very less obvious. but it should be obvious by now what didn't hit the pentagon: a 757.
HUNT THE BOEING pentagon
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so. since it can indeed be
so. since it can indeed be shown that a 757 did not hit the pentagon as the official fairytale states it did, should we not spend the time to point out that it did not? photos of the lack of evidence supporting the official claim are very persuasive persuaders when reaching out to newbis.
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somebigguy, Thank you for
somebigguy, Thank you for posting that link to that heart-wrenching video. I hadn't seen it before... and it certainly sharpened my focus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE9TLgCVLBM
dz: How soon until 911Blogger V2? You mentioned it awhile back, stating that, among other things, there
will be no more anonymous posting allowed in the new version. Perhaps you said when before,
but I'd appreciate if you could say it again. Thank you.
Some people within the
Some people within the movement can ONLY focus on Controlled Demolition and the Pentagon.
Is that all that happened before, during, and after 9/11?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.17.06 - 12:21 pm | #
i know this isnt about me,because i certaintly dont ONLY focus on controlled demolition and the Pentagon, but i dont ignore it like some people. i think both extremes are a mistake. those that ignore them and those that ONLY focus on those 2 things.
we need to make comics too
we need to make comics too
(controlled demolition and
(controlled demolition and pentagon) i think both extremes are a mistake. those that ignore them and those that ONLY focus on those 2 things.
Chris
I agree Chris, no matter how pure their motives, on either side of the debate!!!!!!!
On Topic: This comic reminds me of the one created by the US Government (and air dropped) for our invasion of Granada. (Anyone got the link to this?)
This just shows, once again, that the US population is being treated more and more blatantly like a foreign population under occupation, by the elites.
We, american citizens, have become the 'them' in need of subjigation, propaganda and the threat of violence to keep us under control and obedient .
The no boeing at the
The no boeing at the Pentagon is not going to sway most peoples opinion on 911. I was visiting Kentucky last week and flew on a Boeing 757 from San Diego. When we were landing I tried to imagine Hani Hanjour piloting this big bird into the first and second floor of the Pentagon. I noticed that on the 2 fights I had on this plane, both pilots came down for landing in a kind of "herky-jerky" motion. It was hard to imagine such a smooth & accurate hit by an amature pilot. That being said, I do not push the notion that a missle/Skywarrior/combination of the 2 hit the Pentagon. A Boeing 757 under remote control is possible but where is the proof? It's only speculation. I agree with others on here that the question should not be what hit the Pentagon, but why was it allowed to happen. At least the Mineta testimony demonstrates there was someting fishy going on in that White House bunker with Cheney.
"I'll tell you what
"I'll tell you what Anonymous... you keep playing with your Pentagon, and I'll continue fighting for my country. How's that?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.17.06 - 2:53 pm | # "
lol beautiful.
This back and forth between Jon and one of 911Bloggers' (seemingly) many anonymous posters has been like this since it started.
Jon>Janitor
Anonymous>Floor Mop
lol
Hey, Jon, Ian C or anyone
Hey, Jon, Ian C or anyone else who's out asking people 9/11 questions. I made a quick sheet of 911Blogger.com links to print and cut up, then hand out to people who you ask 9/11 questions to.
They could also be handed out or dropped anywhere.
- [ http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/2805/911bloggerlinkborderlesszf7.jpg ]
- [ http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/1121/911bloggerlinkborderedfg1.jpg ]
If you'd like me to make a version with different text below the link, just say what you'd like it to read. Or if you have any other idea's about what kind of sheet of cut ups you'd like, I'll do my best to make it.
These should look good when printed.
The bordered version is basically for easy cutting guide lines, but the border should also still be visible after cutting. If you're good with scissors, or if you're able to use one of those long paper cutting blades (can't remember the name) then the borderless version would probably look better for handing out.
Jon,I first want to thank
Jon,I first want to thank you and all of the other guys ,who are constantly posting the latest 9/11 related stories,opinions,information et al on this site.I visit this site many times throughout the day.
I'm not a schill or troll and I don't have all the answers.I do believe that sometimes people try to steer these threads into certain directions.
I don't believe a 757 hit the pentagon because I've never seen any evidence,photographs or video,That show the damage the wings with those 2 huge engines would have done to that building.Those photo's that were linked earlier in the thread don't show the damage that really would have been done.The Pentagon is made of reinforced concrete(re-bar) we're told.The World Trade Center Towers were made of steel.The Planes that hit the towers,those wings were able to slice through the steel like butter.Steel is stronger then concrete.Why didn't the 757's wings of the plane that hit the pentagon not do at"least" the same amount if not more damage?
I agree with others on here
I agree with others on here that the question should not be what hit the Pentagon, but why was it allowed to happen.
No, the question should be both WHAT hit the pentagon, and WHY did it happen!
Cheney can always say (if he ever had to answere to anyone), that he let AA77 hit the Pentagon, because he didn't wan't to shoot down the passengers.
There is always the I made a mistake/bad judgment option for all the behavioral evidence, but not for the physics evidence. People like Gold won't admit this. He is a fraud.
I've been called a shill and
I've been called a shill and a limited hang out because my focus is proving inside job thru covert funding to the ISI, Able Danger's real purpose, and the role of Atta and moles in the hijacker plot.
Yet people say "there's no Arabs! It's all fake!" Riiight. Yeah, there was no Arab hijackers...all made up!
Some people want us to believe there was no hijackers, no planes, etc.
So I agree with Jon completely...but I also agree there are some major anomalies physically that need to be discussed. I think its all on the table...cept the no plane BS:)
Also I did a 9/11 truth comic strip last fall:
http://www.pockybot.com/strips/zcomicb.jpg
ignoring evidence of
ignoring evidence of controlled demolition is a huge mistake.
In my opinion, Albanese's
In my opinion, Albanese's film was rubbish. As I recall Albanese suffers from some sort of speech impediment which means every fifth word gets mangled into incoherence. Why didn't he get someone who could speak properly to do the voiceover?
The film was tres boring with long grabs from Star Wars, V For Vendetta, and Network...these were even more tedious than the rest of the drearisome slideshow.......how it got a "premiere" i will never know.
It was awful.
i loved the V for Vendetta
i loved the V for Vendetta stuff he put in it.and the personal shots about his speech is just wrong. that said, the movie suffered from not going far enough.
those wings were able to
those wings were able to slice through the steel like butter.Steel is stronger then concrete
but evidently not stronger than aluminum! oh don't forget plastic, the nosecone of a 767 is made of a composite plastic, and since the plastic nosecone of a 767 hit wtc2 before the extra sturdy aluminum wings did and yet still glided right thru the side without deforming, breaking or even slowing down in the slightest, that means that plastic must be stronger than steel and concrete as well.
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Right.So are you saying that
Right.So are you saying that a plane really didn't hit the towers?Because logically speaking,If the plane cut through the steel towers then it should have cut through the concrete pentagon.I always believed that planes hit the towers.The no plane stuff i've been hearing about recently,i don't have enough knowledge of the theory people say is behind that.
Ignoring evidence of
Ignoring evidence of controlled demolition is a huge mistake.
Right on, Chris. I can't understand how anyone could do that. But they do, so I just have to accept a weird fact of life.
Yes, ignoring any of our
Yes, ignoring any of our physical/scientific evidence is a very big mistake!!! It lends support to the "official story."
Do you hear us, Jon Gold & John Albanese??? Wake the hell up!
I can't believe Albanese
I can't believe Albanese didn't even include a clip of WTC-7 or Silverstein. That was a gigantic mistake. I question the Albanese's judgement.
If fat-boy Gold or
If fat-boy Gold or Joey-Buttafuco-sounding Albanese ever come down on me re: physical evidence again like they tried above in this thread, they are going to have a very serious problem with me!
informed believer - are you
informed believer -
are you saying that a plane really didn't hit the towers?
that's what i believe, and i have said that before but it seems to make somebody's movement hurt when i do, so in this case i was just pointing out that when flight175 hit the wtc2 it glided right inside of it without any of it breaking off or even slowing down. (this info can be gleaned by slowing down the actual CNN footage). so anyway, somehow the plastic nosecone went right in followed by the fuselage and every inch of the wings (even the fragile wingtips) until it got to the tail assembly which somehow glided right in as well (miraculously leaving no section of the hole corresponding to where the tail went in) - remember, not a single inch of flight175 broke off on the way in and it didn't even slow down - mind you, these are facts that are backed up by authentic CNN footage, but god forbid anyone's movement would ever hurt so please disregard this statement.
click my homepage to see the strange images of 9/11.
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Ha, between you & Gold,
Ha, between you & Gold, you're going to give me a f*cking stroke tonight.
I believe drones hit the WTC-7. Modified, programmed drones that were swapped at Stewart Airfield. This tactic has been around since Operation Northwoods.
well whatever the drone was
well whatever the drone was or wasn't, it behaved in the exact manner that i described above except i left out one tiny detail: the length of the drone/767 is greater than the distance from the outer perimeter columns to the inner core columns. so while the plastic nosecone punched thru the outer columns and kept going, when it hit the inner columns the tail was still protruding from the side of the tower yet it still didn't slow down at all.
that sure was an odd looking drone; i wonder why they didn't paint it to exactly match a ua 767?
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well, there's no reason for you to have a stroke due to anything i say. you see, i believe in the value of looking at every last detail, unlike some others who might be responsible for your having a stroke.
sidewise smiley face, and don't forget to look at my homepage.
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All right james. And I see
All right james. And I see you've updated your homepage. Peace.
So I go to the beach today,
So I go to the beach today, come home and look at 911Blogger, see a thread with almost 150 posts under the comic book topic, get excited because I think people must be talking about how 9/11 truth comics could be made, which I've been thinking about all day and which I think is a fantastic idea and I can't wait to start reading...
but of course it's another physical evidence versus testimony-based evidence fight.
This just has to stop.
And incidentally, the comic
And incidentally, the comic at strawandclover.com is a good example of an effective comic that is based on deconstructing the Commission Report, rather than substituting an alternative narrative.
And one final note: I just
And one final note: I just transcribed EGLS for a French website that is going to subtitle it. This involved watching it about three times in all, and each time through I liked it more, including the passages "appropriated" from various films. Overall, it is a very effective film that illustrates the testimony-based evidence.
Sorry casseia, I just can't
Sorry casseia, I just can't stand the way Gold vouches for & promotes the official version that AA77 struck the Pentagon.
"Sorry casseia, I just can't
"Sorry casseia, I just can't stand the way Gold vouches for & promotes the official version that AA77 struck the Pentagon."
And I can't stand Anonymous trolls who's only intent is to start trouble on a blog where talk of activism should be taking place.
I can't stand Anonymous trolls putting words in my mouth.
I can't stand Anonymous trolls doing their best to insure that most people on this blog focus on red herrings, instead of the previously mentioned activism.
I can't stand Anonymous trolls, period.
"If fat-boy Gold or
"If fat-boy Gold or Joey-Buttafuco-sounding Albanese ever come down on me re: physical evidence again like they tried above in this thread, they are going to have a very serious problem with me!"
It's Norristown, not Norrisville, and anytime you think you've grown balls large enough to confront me, you just let me know.
Here's a promise on my part
Here's a promise on my part casseia. I will from this point on do my VERY BEST to ignore anyone who tries to start a fight. I recommend everyone else try this as well. As Barrie Zwicker said, when you ignore them, they become exposed.
As requested, hereÂ’re
As requested, here’re the detailed instructions on how to print my comic at strawandclover.com. The most reliable way is to download the .jpg and print that. At the bottom of the homepage, there’s a link that reads “Click here to download printable version” Right click this link, select “Save Link As”, then choose a location on your hard drive where you want the file to reside. Hit Save, which starts the downloading. Then go to this file and print it.
Let me know if this works for you. Happy flyering!
Jon, just don't support &
Jon, just don't support & promote the official version of AA77 striking the Pentagon, and people won't think you're a shill who is trying to subvert some of our best evidence.
but of course it's another
but of course it's another physical evidence versus testimony-based evidence fight.
This just has to stop.
casseia | 07.17.06 - 10:54 pm | #
we must have BOTH. some people get mad when you present physical evidence and CD,Pentagon stuff. i dont see many people getting angry when someone brings up the testimony based stuff though. thats the difference.why ignore CD? i dont get it.
Tell me... why is talking
Tell me... why is talking about things that you CAN'T prove more important than talking about things you can?
For instance. BushCo wanted to go to war with both Afghanistan and Iraq prior to 9/11. In the 9 months between his inauguration and 9/11, plans were developed for both of these wars. Neither of those wars would have been possible if not for 9/11.
9/11 happened, and this Administration did EVERYTHING in their power to make sure that no one found out how it happened.
When the time came for Bush and Cheney to be questioned about 9/11, they wouldn't do it under oath. They wouldn't do it publicly. They wouldn't do it without each other, and NO recording devices were allowed during their testimony.
I don't know, but to me, that is a CLEAR sign of PROVEABLE guilt.
So why don't you talk about it?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.17.06 - 1:08 pm | #
you dont think that we can prove that buildings dont fall like that and that there is no evidence of flight 77 at the pentagon??? youre fucking crazy!!!!
its all on video.. the crap that you want to talk about makes people have to connect too many dots... it will never happen, gold...
;half of the american people are retarded and dont read...
gold, how many people have you turned on to 911 this week???
"gold, how many people have
"gold, how many people have you turned on to 911 this week???"
Hmmmm... that's hard to say.
Through the interviews I've taken that sit on 911podcast.com, through the articles I've written that are spread throughout the entire internet, through the 3,863,132 visitors I've had to my site, I just don't know inside.
How many have you turned on period?
more then you im sure!!! you
more then you im sure!!!
you only deal with people on the net i live in the real world....
there are tons of people that dont have the net and those are the ones that are going to be in the streets when this all comes out... those are my people, the people in the hoods...
Through the interviews I've taken that sit on 911podcast.com, through the articles I've written that are spread throughout the entire internet, through the 3,863,132 visitors I've had to my site, I just don't know inside.
How many have you turned on period?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.18.06 - 4:26 pm | #
you interview is fucking retarded (iveonly seen the first one).. asking people if they think we were lied to about 911 with no follow??? HAHAHH!!!! good job...
why dont you tell everyone that you think passing out copies of loose change is hurting the movement and telll people that you think are shills that you want them to die... youre real stable..