Moran Alert.

What's wrong with the following paragraph?

Obviously, in order to present his theories, he must have a firm grounding in many scientific disciplines as well as some knowledge of engineering in order to debunk the established theory that two 767s filled with hundreds of thousands of pounds of jet fuel plowed into two 110 story buildings at more than 500 miles per hour, igniting and burning the fuel at several thousand degrees causing support structures to weaken until the weight bearing beams holding up the top several floors gave way allowing the entire edifice to pancake down to the ground. But Mr. Barrett has so far not shown that he has any expertise in anything, much less his possessing the specialized and collective knowledge of The American Society of Civil Engineers, whose brilliant analysis of why the towers fell is generally accepted in the scientific community as the best theory available about how the disaster happened.

Quite a bit, I'd say. You can read the entire anti-Barrett screed, "Enjoying the Academic Freedom to Be an Idiot", written by Rick Moran over at FrontPagemag.com, should you be so inclined.

Why have such shit heads

Why have such shit heads never have an real email adress?

What's wrong with it is that

What's wrong with it is that they're not addressing the issues BUT
- citing reputation (Academics etc.)
- citing popularity (widely believed etc.)

what they're not getting is that this is the whole point about 9/11: our respected government (think of Bush's reputation pre-9/11) betrayed us fully, lied to us, fooled us. (implementing the 'Big Lie' principle)

Then when some academic society like the NIST comes and 'debunks' things, why should be believe it? No more should anyone do that after 9/11...

What a freakin' moran

What a freakin' moran

Those who would like to

Those who would like to write a polite correction to Mr. Moran's error-filled article could do so at his blog:

RightWing Nuthouse

He has a radio show- maybe he should have Barrett on so he can reveal Barrett's utter idiocy on the subject?

Kevin, didn't you know that jet fuel burns at several thousand degrees? That the floors pancaked into one another?

This photo was on David

This photo was on David Icke's secrets of the Matrix, pt 1 of 3

It's on google video.

The first 2 parts are great, but in the third part he talks about reptiles and I kinda get bugged out.

To each their own, though.

The Big Lie All this was

The Big Lie

All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true in itself - that in The Big Lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper stata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to The Big Lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.
It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

- Adolf Hitler, in Mein Kampf

Front Page Mag is just a

Front Page Mag is just a Neo-Conservative piece of low quality butt-tissue. It's a shame that they equate partisan politics with academics, and speak as though from a position of intellectual authority. They make Fox look like a leftist news outlet.

US hawks smell

US hawks smell blood

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article14061.htm

mentioning the 20/9/01 PNAC letter...

anyone know where i can find

anyone know where i can find a high quality video clip of bush saying "let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories, regarding the attacks of september the 11th." the best quality file i have some 150k real player file... if it's in a 9/11 movie, i can grab it from there too if anyone knows what movie has the video of him saying that.

truth911: Painful Deceptions

truth911:

Painful Deceptions has it in it.

hundreds of thousands of

hundreds of thousands of pounds of jet fuel? hmmm

Anyone who still doubts the

Anyone who still doubts the insanity that has taken over this country please read this. Barbarians all. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060720/ap_on_re_us/virginia_execution

What the fuck is gravatar?

What the fuck is gravatar? Excuse me if this has been addressed before.

http://www.whatreallyhappened

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wackyconspiracy.html

Bush's speech at UN et al
RealMedia 151kb

What I particularly enjoyed,

What I particularly enjoyed, over at the site where this essay is, is the t-shirt ad right next to it, featuring the tagline "Iran wants nukes? Give 'em to them" and a big mushroom cloud. Nice.

Gravatar?Please help me out

Gravatar?Please help me out , it's really bugging me.

I almost for the briefest of

I almost for the briefest of seconds thought there was actually a MSM report about the truth of what happened on 9/11 when I saw this today, but just wishful thinking I guess:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060720/us_nm/leisure9_11_dc

9/11 documentary director wants truth to prevail

...
"I hope the truth does not get lost amongst the fiction," Linda Ellman, a former NBC News producer, who made her film directorial debut with "On Native Soil," told Reuters.
...

Maybe someone can reveal the real "truth" to Linda Ellman.

Gravatar?

Gravatar?

Bubba, please explain how

Bubba, please explain how Barrett is a liar.

colin, ever seen cloak and

colin, ever seen cloak and swagger post here?

for him it is an icon instead of the text. I don't know much about it, but Google it and i think gravatar.com pops up which seems to be what it is.

gravatar is an old video

gravatar is an old video game.

Orwell will be watching the

Orwell will be watching the Ellman documentary.

Bubba, a great country

Bubba, a great country you're living in now, thank to the BIG LIE of 9/11.

The high price of American gullibility

Paul Craig Roberts: Many Americans have turned a blind eye to the administration's illegal and unconstitutional spying on the grounds that, as they themselves are doing nothing wrong, they have nothing to fear. If this is the case, why did our Founding Fathers bother to write the Constitution? If the executive branch can be trusted not to abuse power, why did Congress pass legislation establishing a panel of federal judges (ignored by the Bush administration) to oversee surveillance? If President Bush can decide that he can ignore statutory law, how does he differ from a dictator? If Bush can determine law, what is the role of Congress and the courts? If "national security" is a justification for elevating the power of the executive, where is his incentive to find peaceful solutions? (Answers to any of the previous questions, Bubba?)

things are growing

things are growing everyday--

the hard part is over...everybody all found each other, got the evidence together

the revelation of the 911hoax is now inevitable
____________________
it's time to smile pretty for the cameras and try to be polite in victory

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13958508/

Small victory for sanity

Does anyone have knowledge

Does anyone have knowledge of how ham radio can be used to spread the truth?

Great arguments Bubba. You

Great arguments Bubba. You made your case. Everything I quoted from the "fruitcake" is false... of course. I should have known. Thanks for a great debate.

Please don't feed the

Please don't feed the trolls. Some of them get paid on a commission basis based on how many replies they get.

I know... but their just so

I know... but their just so dawm stupid sometime. I must resist to feed the troll. (zen) I think I'm okay now. :)

I find it incredibly funny

I find it incredibly funny that he spelt Moron wrong. How sweet is that?

Bubba you're part of the

Bubba you're part of the reason the world laughs at the US right now...Come on....3 buildings fall in one day and you call it a terrorist attack. Guess what...I call it an inside job. Think about it. Last year a C130 hit an apartment building in Iran...did it fall? No. Your a moran too.

Has anyone read David Ray

Has anyone read David Ray Griffin's CHRISTIAN FAITH AND THE TRUTH BEHIND 9/11: A CALL TO REFLECTION AND ACTION?

http://www.thedarksidecometh.

http://www.thedarksidecometh.com

Impeach them on the big lie!

House Votes to Support

House Votes to Support Israel's Confrontation in Lebanon

Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was the only Republican to vote against the resolution. Democrats who voted against the measure of support were Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii, John Conyers, Carolyn Kilpatrick and John Dingell, all from Michigan, Jim McDermott of Washington, Nick Rahall of West Virginia and Pete Stark of California.

does this surpise anyone? once again Ron Paul shows hes the only respectable republican. McDermott is the man. i knew he would vote no.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,204554,00.html

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.,

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told CBS' "The Early Show" on Thursday. But, he said, if Hezbollah is "going to launch attacks from the Lebanese territory, then tragically the Lebanese government and people pay a price for that."

FUCK YOU MCCAIN!!!!!

Apparently I've been Banned

Apparently I've been Banned on Seattle PI's "sound off" on the Anti-Barrett editorial...

Anyone want to take over for me?

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=277969

What's wrong with the

What's wrong with the paragraph is it is wildly inaccurate. On the contrary, Mr. Barrett has proven himself to be a strong critical thinker and a highly credentialed scholar of merit.

While Mr. Barrett's expertise may not lie in the field of engineering, he has quoted the findings of BYU Physics professor Stephen E. Jones at length.

This paragraph gives the impression that Mr. Barrett pulled his theoris out of his proverbial ass, which is obviously where Rick Moran pulled this paragraph.

DHS, We've all been there

DHS, We've all been there trying to get through to the brainwashed masses, but it's really a lost cause... It's like trying to get through to Sean Hannity (impossible).

Stick to talking to people with open minds, passing out flyers, giving out DVDs to people you know, and freewayblogging!!!

Bubba = Troll = Don't

Bubba = Troll = Don't Feed.

How to Spot a Troll: Typically leave short, unsubstantiated statements (usually insulting) designed to distract 911 bloggers away from the subject at hand by engaging them in pointless, looping arguments.

Ignore them.

FYI look at the

FYI look at the anti-mckinney ad running on Dailykos.com through the "liberal blog" advertising network!!!

Last year a C130 hit an

Last year a C130 hit an apartment building in Iran...did it fall? No. Your a moran too.
Anonymous | 07.20.06 - 6:21 pm | #
and that apartment building was nowhere near as big as the towers. yet it stood. lets not forget the Madrid inferno that completely gutted the building, yet it still stood. Alex is right though, ignoring these trolls is probably best.

FYI look at the

FYI look at the anti-mckinney ad running on Dailykos.com through the "liberal blog" advertising network!!!
Drew M | Homepage | 07.20.06 - 7:32 pm | #
i dont see it Drew, what did it say? it doesnt surprise me that the leading left wing blog wants to sink McKinney though, she is likely to expose them for the cowards they are.expose her own party for the coweards they are, along with KOS,C&L and all the other "safe" lefties.im a real leftie.fuck KOS.fake ass DLC dems.

Bubba = Troll = Don't

Bubba = Troll = Don't Feed.......

Where's your compassion? These poor Trolls are starving, i feel it's our duty to feed the poor bastards.

The government has left them so little scraps to survive on. Lets have an Internation feed the troll day. ;-)

Be careful when people quote

Be careful when people quote Adolf Hitler.

The above quote is not quite correct.

From this NEO NAZI website:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.natall.co...

This was omitted BEFORE THE ABOVE QUOTE:

“It belonged to however the whole impertinent lyingness of the Jews and its Marxist war organization ....

THIS WAS OMITTED AFTER THE ABOVE QUOTE:

The best connoisseurs however this truth about the possibilities of the application of the untruth and slandering were at all times the Jews; nevertheless their whole existence is developed, i.e. already on a only one large lie that that it concerns with them a religious community, during it around a race - which for one - turns.

(sorry for the automatic SYSTRAN translation)

"Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was

"Rep. Ron Paul of Texas was the only Republican to vote against the resolution. Democrats who voted against the measure of support were Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii, John Conyers, Carolyn Kilpatrick and John Dingell, all from Michigan, Jim McDermott of Washington, Nick Rahall of West Virginia and Pete Stark of California." When I saw this earlier today I went ballistic. I immediatly e-mailed Barbara Boxer and expressed my shock and horror in no uncertain terms. These Zionist attacks are an outrage. One good thing though, they are exposing themselves for the monsters they truly are. Even the people of Israel have gone to the streets to protest. It is now cristal clear to me who was behind the 9/11 attacks.

I just posted this over

I just posted this over at
http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/index.asp?ID=23450
regarding Rick Moran's "article"
"Enjoying the Academic Freedom to Be an Idiot" C'mon, everybody - join me in showing this guy what's up.

Rick Moran: Enjoying the Journalistic Freedom to Be an Idiot

This is one of those typical (and boring) articles one finds on Kevin Barrett that doesn't let the facts get in the way when attempting to make a point. A previous poster, RJW, did a fine job of pointing out the numerous factual errors in this transparent hit piece, so I won't list them again. What I would like to do is challenge you, Mr. Moran, to debunk any three claims made by Kevin Barrett, and then link to information verifying your statements. I'll check back to see what you've come up with. If you educate me, I will sincerely thank you. If you can't meet the above challenge, I would hope you'll have the character to admit it.

Fuck mccain and fuck all

Fuck mccain and fuck all those soulless, conniving bastards

Alex, Great response.

Alex,

Great response.

"Alex, Great response. Chris

"Alex,

Great response.
Chris Rose"

Thank you, Chris... I hope many here will join me in leaving a response. These empty-headed "journalists" can't get away with writing this tripe:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/index.asp?ID=23450

Primary politics In

Primary politics

In suburban Atlanta, meanwhile, many Democratic primary voters seemed fed up with Rep. Cynthia McKinney, who scuffled with a Capitol Police officer in March when he asked for her I.D. A grand jury declined to charge her with assault, but she apologized on the House floor. Although she had been expected to win handily, former DeKalb County commissioner Hank Johnson held her under 50%, and she faces a runoff next month. McKinney lost her seat once, in 2002, after she suggested President Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks beforehand.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20060720/edit20.art.htm

yes,thats why she lost her seat, its not because the media completely slandered her or anything........

The original text of Hitler

The original text of Hitler MEIN KAMPF is on this NEO NAZI website:

http://www.ety.com/berlin/kampf5d.htm

This book is an unreadable garbage rant of a madman. Half-truths all round.

I think there was a comedian who read it out loud in german shopping-malls. It wasn't funny... just awful... people were intriqued .. then disgusted. Germans are soo cool these days. Ask the visitors to the World Championships!!

In any case, if you conspiracy-lovers quote Hitler, be VERY careful.

Hitler makes the argument that THE JEWS used THE (non-existant) BIG LIE TECHNIQUE.

If you press this point you end up like this LINUX-hater Eric Hufschmid.. who has some totalitarian tendencies.. no doubt inspired by THE PERCEPTION of his PERCEIVED germanic genes.

- there are no "germanic genes".. they germans are a total mix of tribes, mongols, kelts, vikings, roman, EVERYTHING.

- genes DO NOT DO ANYTHING, unless switched on by EXTERNAL EVENTS

- Linux is the best. ( boot KNOPPIX 5.0 CD and marvel!)

I could find quotes to support YOUR 911 TRUTH point of view among Hitler's writings... Its a great game to find something that you people will love to hear, and then give you the context, where it was said, and what for.

Suffice to say that INDUSTRIAL BARONS (the CEOs of yesteryear) were very impressed with Hitler.. all he needed to do is to promise them that ELITES ARE WANTED.... and that the STATE will be the executive for them.

Much like today's USA.

> Be careful when people

> Be careful when people quote Adolf >Hitler.

That's unimportant. A true statement is true independent of who says it. Of course most will agree that Hitler turned into a madman, mass murderer, and above all, erected a police state that would even drarf G.W.Bush's and Cheney's plans.

The statement about the "Big Lie" is brilliant. It is the "psychological barrier" we've been talking about all along. If anyone thinks he can get the jewish lobby on board of 9/11 truth, go to www.adl.org - right now they're quoting Bush in bold letters on their site, he is their absolute Hero, and the 9/11 Arab-hijacker-lie is their holy grail,

Interested what going on in

Interested what going on in Lebanon?

Hear Robert Fisk from Beirut:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/national/mnr/middle_east_crisis2

way cool this guy. He predicts a new 9/11, he calls it

911b

greg! The big lie is a myth

greg!

The big lie is a myth and you are believing it, without proof.

The big lie has LITTLE to do with the perception of the people, most people I know are very willing to consider a big lie, even though they use little lies themselves. They have no problem with big lies.

What Hitler did not say:

A BIG LIE NEEDS A BIG PROTECTOR.

Let me repeat in different words so that you kiddies understand:

The UNWILLINGNESS TO BELIEVE THE BIG LIE is a myth that tries to cover up for BIG LIARS WHO USE BIG METHODS to underpin their big lies. It is in defense of the BIG METHODS, which, naturally, can only be used by those with BIG MEANS.

BIG MEANS are unfair, hierarchical, and enslave the SMALL MEANS of course. It is the job of the intellectual to defend the elites, to invent a contrived reason WHY ELITES should be allowed to be elites.

In the context of 9/11:

The reason why you find that NEWSPAPERS or OFFICIALS tell you that you are a nutter for raising the possibility that 9-11 was an inside job is... THEY ARE ON THE INSIDE.

They simply use their first impulse (everybody is ignorant at first) and then stick with it, defend their ignorance upon reflecting on it.

Believe me, ELITES are very quick learners. They spend a great deal of time thinking about ways to keep and enlarge their wealth against "the great unwashed". It is a time-honoured tradition.

The BIG LIE has no quality in itself.

Q.E.D.

Oh I forgot. The fact that

Oh I forgot.

The fact that you LIKE TO BELIEVE in the inherent qualities of the big lie, is a sign of character weakness. Accepting that there can be tricks to dominate others.... should make your alarm-bells go off.

The indoctrination of the BUSINESS ROUND TABLE sits very very deep.

If this has offended you, good.

As Chomsky says:

If one's words do not offend the ones that should be offended, you are doing something wrong.

I still love you, though :-)

I still love you, though It

I still love you, though

It was me. Anonymous love is less satisfying ;-)

the @#$%&* form just forgot my ID.

not Chomsky

not Chomsky again..............

how can you constantly qoute

how can you constantly qoute that blind son of a bitch? personally, i think hes worse than blind, he knows what hes doing in regards to 9/11. whats his excuse again? he didnt do much research into and didnt find it very important? great Chomsky, suck on one...........

Chomsky's Not all Bad The

Chomsky's Not all Bad

The fact of the matter is that there is no War on Terror. It's a minor consideration. So invading Iraq and taking control of the world's energy resources was way more important than the threat of terror. And the same with other things. Take, say, nuclear terror. The American intelligence systems estimate that the likelihood of a "dirty bomb," a dirty nuclear bomb attack in the United States in the next ten years, is about 50 percent. Well, that's pretty high. Are they doing anything about it? Yeah. They're increasing the threat, by increasing nuclear proliferation, by compelling potential adversaries to take very dangerous measures to try to counter rising American threats.

http://www.alternet.org/story/30487?comments=view&cID=74798&pID=74738

I think he sees 911 inside job as COINTELPRO-as do others:

http://www.geo-economics.org/Support%20for%20the%20911%20COINTELPRO%20hy...

Chris, compared to chomsky

Chris, compared to chomsky we all are blind.

He has his reasons, you have yours.

You do you thing, he does his.

You have your mistakes, he has his.

"You do you thing, he does

"You do you thing, he does his."
Yeah, Chris spreads truth, Chomsky supports lies.

Maybe Chumpsky is himself COINTELPRO.

mistakes? im not in the same

mistakes? im not in the same position as Chomsky, i cant influence millions of people like he can. he is irresponsible as hell. Chomsky is likely an agent. i know i know, people use that "agent" talk too much.i agree, but how else do you explain "americas most critical thinker" ignoring 9/11? or thinking Oswald acted alone? or not reporting on Operation Mockingbird? was he a PART of Operation Mockingbird? that would explain his silence on it.im interested to know what you think my mistakes are,Anonymous, and if you think my mistakes are more damaging than Chomskys mistakes and silence.

Chris, compared to chomsky

Chris, compared to chomsky we all are blind.

Anonymous | 07.21.06 - 1:42 am | #
i dont ignore 9/11.i dont ignore the JFK killing. i dont ignore Operation Mockingbird.whos really blind? either Chomsky is blind or he is an asset of the elite. i dont know which is worse.