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Today, Thursday, 7/20, Les Jamieson will be on New York's Pacifica flagship station WBAI (99.5 FM) from 3 - 6 PM to doing a special radio show to call attention to the 2nd anniversary of the 9/11 Commission Report. He will interview family members Ellen Mariani, Bob McIlvaine, Donna Marsh O'Connor, and retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern. We'll also be doing some fund raising and will feature the David Ray Griffin lecture given last fall in NYC titled "The Destruction of the World Trade Center". To stream the show, go to WBAI and click on the Listen Online button on the right. Please spread the word.
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Texas City gets another
Texas City gets another terror scare.
http://www.click2houston.com/news/9548890/detail.html
I don't know if it can be tied into some of the false flag terror op. preparations running in Texas City earlier this year, but this could by psyop on the local level.
The Previous Texas City
The Previous Texas City False Flag Scare.
http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/01/26/impending-nuclear-911/
Tuned in..... I hope someone
Tuned in.....
I hope someone can also archive this program.
I hope Amy Goodman is
I hope Amy Goodman is listening.
I'm recording the show now.
I'm recording the show now.
But since this information wasn't posted until after 12 [PST] -- or I didn't see it until quarter after 12 -- the first 15 minutes won't be included.
Engineers Seek What's Left
Engineers Seek What's Left of WTC Facade
By AMY WESTFELDT
Associated Press Writer
July 20, 2006, 6:33 AM EDT
NEW YORK -- For months, it was as a resilient symbol of what the terrorists could not bring down: nine stories of the World Trade Center's north tower facade stood in the rubble while workers recovered bodies and cleared the site of the towers' ruins.
When workers brought the latticework facade down in December 2001, officials said some of it would be saved. Relatives of the victims say they want to one day return the steel columns to ground zero to become part of a memorial.
But officials now say they aren't sure how much of that 100-foot-tall, 80-foot-wide facade they have and what can be put back together.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-attacks-facade,0,125...
three-pronged trident
three-pronged trident columns that anchored the trade center towers, have been located and identified as part of the historic facade, although no steel pieces have yet been found that fit together, Svojsik said.
Almost all the other steel, including the 62-ton skeletal remnants of a south tower facade that also became an iconic image after the attacks, was sent to scrap yards.
bastards.
The Unfolding Horror
The Unfolding Horror Show
Will Americans Join Iraqis, Lebanese and Palestinians as Neocon Victims?
PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS | July 20 2006
What explains the indifference of the Bush administration to the slaughter of civilians in Iraq, Lebanon, and Gaza?
As of the morning of July 19, Israeli bombardments of Lebanese civilian residential districts and public infrastructure have murdered 300 Lebanese, wounded 1,000, and displaced 500,000. The Lebanese prime minister said that Israel’s attack has caused “unimaginable losses” and that his government will seek compensation from Israel.
In Gaza Israel has murdered scores of Palestinian civilians in the past few days.
In Iraq the civilian daily death toll has risen above 100.
These dead are not Hezbollah militia. They are not Hamas militia. They are not al Qaeda or Sunni insurgents. They are civilians.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/200706Unfolding.htm
I just realized that I don't
I just realized that I don't need to record this. The website makes audio of all shows available [ http://archive.wbai.org/ ].
Thanks for the archive site.
Thanks for the archive site.
A little humor to lighten
A little humor to lighten the mood of World War 4Ever:
Ordering a Pizza in the Patriotic Age
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:WYwp21-KznwJ:www.neuroatomik.com/%3F...
Bob, Donna and Ray to me are
Bob, Donna and Ray to me are some of the biggest shining lights in the 9/11 truth movement...two prominent 9/11 family members, and a 27 year CIA analyst. I cannot wait to hear this.
and lo and behold, the mainstream media is now saying Iran and North Korea may be in cahoots:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10705390/
I'm sure the World War 3 shirts, decals and songs are already being made
Why does a TELEPHONE keep
Why does a TELEPHONE keep ringing during the WBAI broadcast?
for those of you that read
for those of you that read Maxim magazine, there is a response letter to the 9/11 story they wrote a few months back, and its from a guy explaining how jet fuel COULD NOT have brought down the towers.
pledges - publicly funded
pledges - publicly funded radio station - they are offering the Griffen lecture DVDs with premium membership.
Les is doing a fabulous job.
Les is doing a fabulous job. I thought hed be good, but hes doing very well.
There might be hundreds at St Marks this Sunday
Congrats and thanks Les!
Sure he, ah, ah, ah, is, baby!
911 Truth organizations are more enamored with creating teams to fight each other than brining an action against the perpetrators of the crimes they claim to have found. More interested in proving a case that will never be started than start that case...
... The government has served notice that it is spending billions to infiltrate the various blogs, create their own indoctrinated web sites, blogs, and forums. They have seen the enemy on the Internet and they are using their efforts at controlling it. For anyone to think that they are not here in force is naïve at best. In that light I am sure you will agree that they would use all their best resources and inflict their best prattle...
...Putting the horse before the carriage.
911 truth, what the hell is that? It certainly cannot be the answer to whom, what, and why. Proving a case before it starts has never been done before much less for a mass murder of 3000 people. Somehow the movement has been led by the nose to think that investigation is what is needed. Well, sort of true, but not. If you believe in government what is needed is an indictment for some of the crimes so that an investigation with subpoena power for evidence may be had..."
Ellen just blasted Phil
Ellen just blasted Phil Berg. I think she's coming across rather well considering other times where she hasn't.
I think Les is doing
I think Les is doing Phenomenally.
Hopefully Ray McG will go
Hopefully Ray McG will go further this time and come out and say 9/11 = Inside Job.
Music? Naw. In all their
Music? Naw. In all their plans, they again neglected the music
http://www.peak.org/~greglief/cc/Compassionate_Conservatives_Another_War...
The host is doing good, Bob McIlvaine was great, Ellen Mariani is angry at being deprived a look at the steel...
"Hopefully Ray McG will go
"Hopefully Ray McG will go further this time and come out and say 9/11 = Inside Job."
I've been begging him for a while now... from your mouth to "God's" ears.
I missed Bob McIlvaine?
I missed Bob McIlvaine? Damn.
Les doesn't sound like Les.
Les doesn't sound like Les.
Way to go, Jon. Maybe now
Way to go, Jon.
Maybe now that Ellsberg has gone public???
"Way to go, Jon. Maybe now
"Way to go, Jon.
Maybe now that Ellsberg has gone public???"
Thanks, but nothing "way to go" about it... he hasn't done it yet... but again, from your mouth...
"I never wanted to be an
"I never wanted to be an activist"...
That's a common sentiment. I was telling someone yesterday that I would have liked to have NOT learned the truth about 9/11 because now I can't turn it off.
Please Les, don't let Ray
Please Les, don't let Ray off the hook...
ah yes, the infamous Red
ah yes, the infamous Red Pill...
Jon: maybe on Saturday
Jon:
maybe on Saturday afternoon if Ray takes questions I will ask him if he believes that 911 is, in fact, an inside job?
"Jon: maybe on Saturday
"Jon:
maybe on Saturday afternoon if Ray takes questions I will ask him if he believes that 911 is, in fact, an inside job?"
You might want me to do it since he knows me... it might come across as something he "has" to do...
I was planning on doing my
I was planning on doing my best on Saturday of getting that one statement, and getting it on video.
Donna Marsh O'Conner, wow:
Donna Marsh O'Conner, wow: amazing interview.
Les is doing a great job. Does anyone know if McGovern has been on yet?
Red Pill - Red Apple -
Red Pill - Red Apple - Forbidden Knowledge
It's a One Way Street
I just pledged $25.
I just pledged $25.
212 209 2950
212 209 2950
Hahah Jon!
Hahah Jon!
"Hahah Jon!" ?
"Hahah Jon!"
?
Friendly "Hahaha" :D
Friendly "Hahaha" :D
"Friendly "Hahaha" :D" Yeah,
"Friendly "Hahaha" :D"
Yeah, but I don't know what you're talking about? Did they say my name? I was in the cr_pper.
Go Les!!!
Go Les!!!
Yes, you got a shout out...
Yes, you got a shout out... :D
I sent Ray that question,
I sent Ray that question, and never got one... about the "Covered your ass" statement.
"Yes, you got a shout out...
"Yes, you got a shout out... :D"
Cool.
WOOOOOO!!! Ann!!!
WOOOOOO!!! Ann!!!
$500!!!
$500!!!
Great McGovern statement
Great McGovern statement about what he thinks Andy Card probably said to Bush in Booker Elementary School: ~ the second plane has hit. Vice President Cheney is in place so just keep your seat here . . .~
Pretty clear McGovern says it's an inside job.
Ray said that whomever told
Ray said that whomever told the Secret Service that they should stay where they are (probably Cheney), knew that they weren't in any danger...
Great summary of the
Great summary of the Commission...
I bet Ray talks about the
I bet Ray talks about the "White Paper"...
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Ray McGovern said you should
Ray McGovern said you should be able to track Bin Laden based on the tapes, and videos.
He said even back in "his
He said even back in "his day" they would have been able to do that.
WOOOOOOO!!!
WOOOOOOO!!!
Ray McGovern admires the
Ray McGovern admires the work that we're doing. From the horse's mouth!!!...
WOOOOOOOO!!!
Way to go Les... thank you
Way to go Les... thank you my friend for everything that you do.
This was a priceless Ray
This was a priceless Ray McGovern interview. I'm floored.
Ellen just blasted Phil
Ellen just blasted Phil Berg. I think she's coming across rather well considering other times where she hasn't.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.20.06 - 4:18 pm | #
what did she say about Berg? did he abandone her?
"Great McGovern statement
"Great McGovern statement about what he thinks Andy Card probably said to Bush in Booker Elementary School: ~ the second plane has hit. Vice President Cheney is in place so just keep your seat here . . .~
Pretty clear McGovern says it's an inside job."
He said in the beginning "Gross Incompetence"... but after listening to him, and everything he pointed out... Ray definitely thinks inside job.
I will do my best as will
I will do my best as will DHS, and as will my good friend Uber Commandante.
Jon Gold
I know you will Jon.
Sorry, but I think it
Sorry, but I think it sucked. A few months ago he predicts staged terror attacks, and that's all he had to say today. Sorry, but it sucked. What about Professor Jones and Wood? What about "arson from thermite"? Sorry, but it sucked.
I just sent Ray this
I just sent Ray this email... the subject, "Thank You Ray"
"For your appearance today on WBAI. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Jon"
His response...
"de nada!"
"what did she say about
"what did she say about Berg? did he abandone her?"
That she fired him.
Pretty clear McGovern says
Pretty clear McGovern says it's an inside job.
It's not gonna be clear for most of the country. Someone needs to come out and say that 9/11 was an inside job, giving specifics. None of that beating around the bush stuff. If he believes staged terror attacks are on the way, and he didn't say anything more than the did today, I am very dissapointed. Maybe he'll speak up more after the staged attacks??????????
Sorry, but it sucked and I'm sick of this already. What the hell are these former government insiders waiting for already? Sorry, BUT IT SUCKED!
"former"?
I agree with you. I can not understand why McGovern is held in such high regard. Everything he says supports the official story. He was specifically asked why UBL was not on the FBI's wanted to list, and he said it was because of Iraq and Pakistan's domestic politics.
Why do people think this guy is helping?
that she fired him. thats
that she fired him. thats it?
"Sorry, but I think it
"Sorry, but I think it sucked. A few months ago he predicts staged terror attacks, and that's all he had to say today. Sorry, but it sucked. What about Professor Jones and Wood? What about "arson from thermite"? Sorry, but it sucked."
Wasn't Les playing 9/11 Eyewitness Hoboken enough? Ray did what Ray does. He gives you valuable analysis from a man who was an analyst for 27 years in the CIA.
He answered Les's questions. Les didn't talk about the next "terrorist attack" so why should we expect him to talk about it?
It was a valuable interview. That is my opinion.
"that she fired him. thats
"that she fired him. thats it?"
That was the gist, but she said a little more about how he didn't do his job, or something... I forget.
The average FOX American in
The average FOX American in no way will understand what McGovern said in that interview. Playing the Hoboken video is not enough. A government insider (former or not) needs to say what that video said, in their own words.
No time to beat-around-the-cheney.
We must go straight forward!
"It's not gonna be clear for
"It's not gonna be clear for most of the country. Someone needs to come out and say that 9/11 was an inside job, giving specifics. None of that beating around the bush stuff. If he believes staged terror attacks are on the way, and he didn't say anything more than the did today, I am very dissapointed. Maybe he'll speak up more after the staged attacks??????????
Sorry, but it sucked and I'm sick of this already. What the hell are these former government insiders waiting for already? Sorry, BUT IT SUCKED!"
Do you know that with the exception of a few, Ray McGovern has attended almost every 9/11 Commission put forward by the movement, by Cynthia McKinney, etc...
I know he was at the 9/11 People's Commission in Washington D.C. 9/11/2004. He was at the D.C. Emergency Truth Convergence on 7/23/2005, and he was a questioner at the 9/11 Congressional Hearings hosted by Cynthia McKinney.
The man supports this movement. He may not support it the way you would like, but he does support it.
I think the interview he did today was outstanding.
"The average FOX American in
"The average FOX American in no way will understand what McGovern said in that interview."
Whomever made the President stay at Booker knew he wasn't in any danger.
The Commission was a fraud.
The Government should be able to track Bin Laden through his tapes, and videos, and would have been able to during his "day".
The White Paper Colin Powell promised, and never delivered that had proof positive it was Bin Laden.
I'm sure there was more, but I don't think these points are beyond people's comprehension.
The man supports this
The man supports this movement. He may not support it the way you would like, but he does support it.
He definitely does support it.
I think the interview he did today was outstanding.
The interview with Alex Jones was much better.
Don't get me wrong though, I'm glad he was on the radio.
I'm just wondering, and worried, what's in store for this country, and for all of us, if someone doesn't come right out already and speak up the truth.
Anyway... I really don't
Anyway... I really don't want to debate whether or not Ray McGovern was a good guest. This was a good show all around. Did you hear those phones ringing again and again? Those were people pledging money because they supported what WBAI was covering, and what we, as a movement, are trying to do. That means something. Maybe I'm trying too hard to paint a pretty picture, but in this movement, we need all of the "pretty pictures" we can get.
but bin Laden is a CIA
but bin Laden is a CIA asset, brought to power by the CIA, and is probably dead. It would have been nice to hear that.
The way he phrased it sounded like bin Laden is evil and needs to be caught (more than bush)
Mcgovern is great, but i
Mcgovern is great, but i agree with CB about beating around the bush. now is not the time.
Which is it?
Great, or should shit or get off the pot, as you say below?
I do not understand why people expect anything more than negligence theory from McGovern.
"The way he phrased it
"The way he phrased it sounded like bin Laden is evil and needs to be caught (more than bush)"
I don't think so... He admitted that there was no evidence BIn Laden was involved. He said Bin Laden should have been our priority and wasn't. We've obviously had numerous opportunities to grab him if the CIA is as good as Ray says they are. Why then haven't we? There are two possible answers to that question. He's more valuable as a threat to the people in the PTB's eyes, or, they did find him, and he's dead as a door nail.
yeah.. getting it on the air
yeah.. getting it on the air was great, and a full three hours!! Nice :-)
Another idea: people need to be encouraged to question 9/11 and not just listen to radio interviews. It's not enough.
Also...
Truthers need to call radio talk shows and speakup. I don't see how this is a bad idea and don't understand why 911Blogger is doing this. I believe Webster Tarpley recommended this as well.
"Mcgovern is great, but i
"Mcgovern is great, but i agree with CB about beating around the bush. now is not the time."
I agree. Les needed to ask him flat out... Is there enough evidence in your eyes to assume that 9/11 was, in fact, an inside job? Hmmm... sounds like a good question for Saturday.
in your mind... eyes?
in your mind... eyes?
I don't think so... He
I don't think so... He admitted that there was no evidence BIn Laden was involved. He said Bin Laden should have been our priority and wasn't. We've obviously had numerous opportunities to grab him if the CIA is as good as Ray says they are. Why then haven't we? There are two possible answers to that question. He's more valuable as a threat to the people in the PTB's eyes, or, they did find him, and he's dead as a door nail.
The way I interpreted it was different. But maybe I'm expecting too much, I don't know.
We should take lessons from
We should take lessons from Captain Jenks.
what's up for Saturday??
what's up for Saturday??
"what's up for
"what's up for Saturday??"
Ray McGovern And Scott Ritter To Be In Philadelphia, 7/22/2006
is there another interview
is there another interview on Sat? I didn't catch that..
Given it's the anniversary
Given it's the anniversary of the report, a question about 9/11 is RIDICULOUSLY appropriate.
"is there another interview
"is there another interview on Sat? I didn't catch that..."
He's coming to Philly.
Ray McGovern And Scott
Ray McGovern And Scott Ritter To Be In Philadelphia, 7/22/2006
ahh.. thanks. Looks good. Scott Ritter is that WMD inspector, right?
"ahh.. thanks. Looks good.
"ahh.. thanks. Looks good. Scott Ritter is that WMD inspector, right?"
Yes.
great. hope to see it on
great. hope to see it on video!
gotta go for now........
gotta go for now........
The show is up
The show is up already...
Les Jamieson On WBAI 99.5 Does A 3 Hour Show On 9/11 Truth - Audio Inside
Overall it was a great show.
Overall it was a great show. Les should be congratulated.
I listened to the interview with Ray McGovern, and I have to say I was a little disappointed.
I understand that Ray has been slowly creating the atmosphere for some intelligence service whistle blowers to come forward (which is what we really need to blow this all wide open), so he needs to be diplomatic and cautious about alienating himself and his group....but it really was just bizarre how they played the Hobokan eyewitness (which blatantly points to Mihop /inside job) right before the interview but it was not even mentioned or infered to in the interview.
Jon, I hope you ask him that question directly in philly......we are beyond the point of subliminal suggestions of an inside job....we need to start screaming it!!!!!! including Ray McGovern,....I hope.
whoops...that was my anon
whoops...that was my anon post above.
"Jon, I hope you ask him
"Jon, I hope you ask him that question directly in philly......we are beyond the point of subliminal suggestions of an inside job....we need to start screaming it!!!!!! including Ray McGovern,....I hope."
I will do my best as will DHS, and as will my good friend Uber Commandante.
Back off McGovern and let
Back off McGovern and let him do his thing.
I'm going to write my
I'm going to write my question down for a change as opposed to winging it.
"Sorry, but I think it
"Sorry, but I think it sucked. A few months ago he predicts staged terror attacks, and that's all he had to say today"
CB | Homepage | 07.20.06 - 5:53 pm | #
CB are you referring to the Alex Jones interview?? I recall him saying they would need some precedent to attack Iran, and that a false flag operation was possible but I dont remember him saying he expected it. I also recall he predicted it "could" be as early as late June or July, and now we may be seeing the door opening through Israel.
Hey Jon. As long as your
Hey Jon.
As long as your thinking of questions for Ray, after hearing this interview(excellent by the way), I wonder what his opinion is about this?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html
Mcgovern needs to shit or
Mcgovern needs to shit or get off the pot. this tiptoing bullshit is annoying as hell. he needs to scream "INSIDE JOB" next time hes on national television. how many times have alleged "truthers" like Mcgovern,the Jersey Girls etc. failed to use their MSM spots to speak the WHOLE truth? they tiptoe around the issue, all of them.
Patorial epitath...
911 Truth organizations are more enamored with creating teams to fight each other than brining an action against the perpetrators of the crimes they claim to have found. More interested in proving a case that will never be started than start that case...
... The government has served notice that it is spending billions to infiltrate the various blogs, create their own indoctrinated web sites, blogs, and forums. They have seen the enemy on the Internet and they are using their efforts at controlling it. For anyone to think that they are not here in force is naïve at best. In that light I am sure you will agree that they would use all their best resources and inflict their best prattle...
...Putting the horse before the carriage.
911 truth, what the hell is that? It certainly cannot be the answer to whom, what, and why. Proving a case before it starts has never been done before much less for a mass murder of 3000 people. Somehow the movement has been led by the nose to think that investigation is what is needed. Well, sort of true, but not. If you believe in government what is needed is an indictment for some of the crimes so that an investigation with subpoena power for evidence may be had..."
Spam muppet
Repeating the same msg to every topic is not helping and only re-enforcing the fact you are a reactionary without anything to contribute to any discussions.
Mental Munchkin.
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