Can You Call in This Morning?

This sent in from lonelantern.org,

Chad Siewert has a sign outside his house that reads "911 was an INSIDE JOB." It is located on a busy road and is lit up at night. His Army uniform sits next to it.

This has gotten airtime on the local news twice. (Richmond, Virginia) http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=5187520
http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?s=5183005
http://www.wric.com/Global/SearchResults.asp?qu=controversial+sign

On Monday July 24th, Chad discussed his sign on a local radio program WRVA 1140AM at 5:20 pm

After talking about Dr Morgan Reynolds, Major General Stubblebine, and Lt Col Robert Bowman questioning what really happened on 911 and talking about the evidence to support their dobts, I was let go. The show then went into attack mode as could be expected.

On Tuesday July 25th, Chad will be on the same radio station at 7:45 am (EDT). He's not sure of the format, but if they are taking calls after having me on, it would be nice if people would call in to support Chad and the station's use the airtime wisely. The station's number is (804)345-1140.

The media is turning their head in our direction, and can still be a harsh place for us to tread, supportive voices make it easier to get the message out. Radio is not an easy medium, so please support Chad, fellow Truth Seekers.

(Edited to correct phone number.)

The number listed only got

The number listed only got me to a recording. Know the right #?

News Reports of Lt Col Steve

News Reports of Lt Col Steve O'Brien and his C-130 seeing BOTH Flight 77 and Flight 93 crash...what a lucky guy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCVRkAkC8n4&mode=related&search=

Anyways, the media is picking up on some guy who had a sign in his window, and Kevin Barret...my god folks, imagine if in every city from Seattle to San Francisco to Atlanta to Miami to Chicago to New York to LA to Dallas and all over people were wall blogging, freeway blogging, etc?
If a guy with a sign in his window(not the idea I'd suggest people do, but eh...) can get media coverage, my god the possibilities are limitless.
With the massive "remember 9/11" machine starting with WTC the movie and cable and tv specials, and 9/11/2006 itself, we all need to spread the word in the most unique and creative ways we can.

I live in New York, NY. Not

I live in New York, NY. Not sure if this would get the same attention here in the city. And that's a good thing.

Lots of people here are onboard...

Maybe it'd work in Queens, NY.

Thanks to whoever posted the

Thanks to whoever posted the original image of this, as I further modified and added some things, and people are really digging it:
http://www.neoramen.com/gallery/nwoparty.jpg

ALL NEED TO PUT A YARD SIGN

ALL NEED TO PUT A YARD SIGN IN THEIR YARDS SAYING 9-11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! I ALREADY HAVE ONE! IT SAYS: 9-11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE ARREST OF BUSH,CHENEY,CONDI, RUMMIE AND WHOLE EVIL PNAC GROUP FOR TREASON AND NOW! CALL CONGRESS 1-202-224-3121! IT IS OUT THERE ALMOST DAILY! WE ALL NEED TO DO THIS AND NOW!

U.K. Government Sources

pockybot: I'm the one that

pockybot: I'm the one that posted the link to that great image.

I like what you did with it, but I hope you've contacted the artist to get his permission to use it. I'm an artist, and would want people to at least acknowledge the source of my work.

That war with Iran stuff is

That war with Iran stuff is scary!

I think we can end this "no

I think we can end this "no planes" debate at the WTC with this amatuer clip...these people are watching this unfold not on tv, but with their own eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyqo4oh-AzU&search=United%20Airlines%20Fl...

Definately not "cgi", or "fakery", or whatever bizarre crap disinfo folks try and assert. No folks, you just cannot "fake" that type of reaction to a plane 5 seconds before it even hits.
It's as if some of these noplaners
could tell us the sky is green in these videos, when it is clearly blue.
But maybe the sky is, just "Cgi fakery".

WOW!! Their staff looks like

WOW!! Their staff looks like the second version of the PNAC!! Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity . No wonder they went on attack mode!

*sigh* lonelantern gave us

*sigh*

lonelantern gave us the ClearChannel #.

The correct # WAS 804-345-1140

We're only as good as the info you send in. Double-check it BEFORE you send it to us. This morning I didn't have time to call the number before the show went live.

I entered my search term

I entered my search term into scroogle, hit enter (AN-M14 TH3 9/11)

http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm

And a window popped up: Website Certified by an Unkown Authority

Unable to verify the identity of [atiam.train.army.mil] as a trusted site

_________________________________________________________________

Thermate can be found in the Army dictionary

http://www.afms1.belvoir.army.mil/dictionary/t_terms.htm

Standard incendiary agent used as filling for incendiary munitions. Mixture of thermite (iron oxide and aluminum) and other oxidizing agents which burn at about 4,300 degrees Fahrenheit.

_________________________________________________________________

And also in this study guide-

http://www.armystudyguide.com/downloads/Board_Study_Guide_5_0.pdf

"It's as if some of these

"It's as if some of these noplaners could tell us the sky is green in these videos, when it is clearly blue. But maybe the sky is, just "Cgi fakery".

They're Targetting These Individuals

People ask us this question A LOT...

If the U.S. Government's intention was to blame 9/11 on Iraq, then why didn't they provide evidence linking it to them from the get-go?

First of all... if you remember correctly, on 9/11, Rumsfeld was planning for war with the Patsy (Osama) and Saddam. So it's OBVIOUS their intentions were Iraq from the "get-go".

Secondly, as I just proved with the above post, they DIDN'T NEED "evidence" linking Iraq to 9/11. All they had to do is say the words, and people would believe it.

Look at what our troops think. Imagine what kind of propaganda they're being told.

Look at what some of our own

The "no planers" at the WTC

The "no planers" at the WTC are pure disinformation. There's no denying it.

There were planes at WTC.

There were planes at WTC. The question in my mind is what kind of planes. Fox reporter clearly states that the second aircraft had no windows.

Their purpose is to make

Their purpose is to make people think that people in the 9/11 Truth Movement believe that Holograms or CGI or TV Fakery was used to make people think planes hit the WTC, thereby making people perceive that the 9/11 Truth Movement is full of insane individuals. No one they should take notice of.

The biggest quandry behind

The biggest quandry behind that is why people like Morgan Reynolds, Jimmy Walter, etc... endorse this obvious disinformation.

Thanks to whoever posted the

Thanks to whoever posted the original image of this, as I further modified and added some things, and people are really digging it:
http://www.neoramen.com/gallery/...ry/ nwoparty.jpg
pockybot | 07.25.06 - 8:37 am | #

Anybody have a clue or interpretation as to who the Christian "evangelest" type preacher is suppesed to be, and why he is included in the drawing?

Jimmy Walter, who dressed up

Jimmy Walter, who dressed up like an astronaut, and clucked like a chicken on Penn & Teller.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060725/ap_on_go_co/signing_statements;_ylt=...

Sen. Specter readies bill to sue Bush

WASHINGTON - A powerful Republican committee chairman who has led the fight against President Bush's signing statements said Monday he would have a bill ready by the end of the week allowing Congress to sue him in federal court.

"We will submit legislation to the United States Senate which will...authorize the Congress to undertake judicial review of those signing statements with the view to having the president's acts declared unconstitutional," Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said on the Senate floor.

Jimmy has done a lot for the

Jimmy has done a lot for the movement, but man...

"Jimmy Walter, who dressed

"Jimmy Walter, who dressed up like an astronaut, and clucked like a chicken on Penn & Teller.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.25.06 - 10:11 am | #"

Those 2 dicks set Walter up. My guess is they incouraged Walter to drink too much for the severe hit video they did on 9/11 truth.

Why then is Walter promoting

Why then is Walter promoting "no planes" at the WTC?

DHS, dont believe the hype.

DHS, dont believe the hype. Specter is the guy who pretends to "investigate" his own party and pretends that hes truly interested in clean government, yet hes the same guy who REFUSED to put the oil execs and Al Gonzalez under oath. and lets not forget hes the guy who came up with "the magic bullet" theory. this will go NOWHERE like everything else Specter pretends to do(see his most recent backtrack in regards to domestic spying)

Thanks to whoever posted the

Thanks to whoever posted the original image of this, as I further modified and added some things, and people are really digging it:
http://www.neoramen.com/gallery/...ry/ nwoparty.jpg
pockybot | 07.25.06 - 8:37 am | #

Anybody have a clue or interpretation as to who the Christian "evangelest" type preacher is suppesed to be, and why he is included in the drawing?
jj111 | 07.25.06 - 10:09 am | #
Pat Robertson? James Dobson? take your pick. its included because the republican party likes to pretend they have jesus on their side.

Concerning the many in the

Concerning the many in the populace who refuse to hear about or take a look at any alternative explanations about 9/11:

Why is this? Are there other reasons beside these?

1) They consider themselves too busy.
2) They feel like they need to tend to their families and not examine the "outside world".
3) They are only motivated to do things that will make them money (career, etc.).
4) They don't want to believe it because it goes against everything they've been taught about good old America since childhood.
5) They don't want to hear it because they see themselves as Christian - and Bush says he is a man who loves Jesus (and is therefore "like them").
6) Republicans stand for values, morality, "faith" (read Jesus, fundamentalist Christianity); therefore the Administration could have nothing to do with 9/11.
7) They believe that these "9/11 conspiracy nuts" hate Bush and Cheney therefore they are saying all these horrible things against the Administration.
8) The TV set is not talking about any of this therefore it can't be real.
9) When 9/11 truth is talked about on TV, the bubble-headed anchors on programs ridicule and chastise those bringing up the truth. Therefore, the people speaking about the truth should be ridiculed by me, the viewer, so I can "fit in".
10) They are scared another big, terroist attack (possibly nuclear) is coming.

Are there more?

I hate Bush & Cheney. I

I hate Bush & Cheney. I also hate Clinton. I also hate Lieberman. I also hate Specter. I also hate Hoekstra. I also hate Santorum. I also hate Sensenbrenner. I also hate Hatch. I also hate Hastert. I also hate Pelosi. I also hate Biden. I also hate Kennedy. I'm an equal opportunity hater in other words.

11) If they accept 9/11

11) If they accept 9/11 truth, the world they live in make no sense anymore, therefore, they have to take action to change it, which seem to much of a task for them and then, prefer to live blind.

Jon, I read that horrifying

Jon,
I read that horrifying article about the war with Iran and peak oil.
I know there's been debate, but do you feel that the peak oil theory is valid? From what I've read, it sure seems so, but I have no idea what media source to trust any longer.
R

R... I believe "Peak Oil" is

R... I believe "Peak Oil" is true. There are those among us who think it's a scam brought on by the Oil Companies. Simply put, the people who think "Peak Oil" is a scam are the minority. They do have some interesting arguments I'll admit, but we have to remember, the theory of "Peak Oil" was not developed by Michael Ruppert. People who oppose "Peak Oil" also oppose Ruppert. It seems there's an "agenda" at play...

The bottom line is, whether "Peak Oil" is a scam or not, controlling the world's resources WAS on the list of things to do for this Administration.

R, the flat-earth truthers

R, the flat-earth truthers will call peak oil a globalist scam, but it is fer real and it is here.
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/3/1/3402/63420

And if you want to read something absolutely frightening, Matt Simmons thinks decline rates are going to kick in so that world production is going to go from, say, 80+ million barrels per day 25 million barrels by 2020 (see p. 52). But, I am sure this is just Malthusian alarmist NWO globalist BS.
http://www.simmonsco-intl.com/files/Energy%20Conversation.pdf

If oil is unlimited (which

If oil is unlimited (which is the argument used by those who oppose the theory of "Peak Oil"), then why the need to control the world's resources? Isn't there enough for everybody? Or, are there intentions to control that unlimited supply so as to make a bunch of money?

I don't know. You don't need "Peak Oil" to convince someone that 9/11 was orchestrated by our Government.

"The biggest quandry behind

"The biggest quandry behind that is why people like Morgan Reynolds, Jimmy Walter, etc... endorse this obvious disinformation.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.25.06 - 10:03 am | # "

One thing that it seems that people don't ever want to acknowledge about Reynolds also, is that he came straight out of the Bush Administration!

He should be a prime candidate for extreme scrutiny regarding 9/11, just for that fact alone. But when coupled with his proud, unwaivering propagation, support and promotion of blatant disinformation, everything he says and does regarding 9/11, should automatically be placed under a huge microscope of extreme scrutiny.

Personally, I don't like -- nor trust -- Reynolds in the slightest. I strongly suspect that he's an agent of distraction>disinformation>destruction, sent straight from the Bush administration itself. Sent by who exactly? I don't know.

But of anyone proudly, unwaiveringly propagating, supporting and promoting blatant disinformation such as "no planes at the WTC", when they're straight from the Bush Administration -- they should constantly be under the utmost scrutiny by real 9/11 truthers.

"I think we can end this "no

"I think we can end this "no planes" debate at the WTC with this amatuer clip...these people are watching this unfold not on tv, but with their own eyes."

So did they record what they saw with their own eyes and magically transform it into a digital stream for later viewing?

That was the fakest airplane I have ever seen btw!!

damn brian, you CGI huggers

damn brian, you CGI huggers are just grasping at straws now huh?

good point about Reynolds,

good point about Reynolds, he has done some good work, but he is from the Bush administration and i would take everything he says with a huge grain of salt.

i dont hate Kennedy, he does

i dont hate Kennedy, he does better work than most Senators. i dont like him, hes still a politician, but as far as Senators go, hes on the right side of almost every issue.but im a big liberal, so of course i agree with his social stances etc.

When I first saw Morgan

When I first saw Morgan Reynolds speak at the D.C. Emergency Truth Convergence, I was awed by his passion, and his ability to motivate the crowd. However, when I found out that he was pushing "no planes at the WTC", I almost completely stopped following him.

You KNOW that some of our

You KNOW that some of our speakers are plants. You KNOW that to be true. We just don't know who they are.

Dr. David Ray Griffin -

Dr. David Ray Griffin - Plant?
Michael Ruppert - Plant?
Barrie Zwicker - Plant?
Morgan Reynolds - Plant?
Jimmy Walter - Plant?
Alex Jones - Plant?
Nafeez Ahmed - Plant?
Kyle Hence - Plant?
John Judge - Plant?
Phil Berg - Plant?
Les Jamieson - Plant?
Nicholas Levis - Plant?
Janice Matthews - Plant?
Nico Haupt - Plant?
Gerard Holmgren - Plant?
The Web Fairy - Plant?
Dylan Avery - Plant?
Jon Gold - Plant?
Corew Howe - Plant?
Dustin Mugford - Plant?
Roger Peters - Plant?
David Kubiak - Plant?
Faiz Khan - Plant?
Emanuel Stefarios - Plant?
James Fetzer - Plant?
Steven E. Jones - Plant?
Ray McGovern - Plant?
Jim Hoffman - Plant?
Don Paul - Plant?

I dunno... I just do my thing.

Nico Haupt - Plant? Gerard

Nico Haupt - Plant?
Gerard Holmgren - Plant?
The Web Fairy - Plant?

oops, i fogot to take away

oops, i fogot to take away the question marks. haha.

so true though, its not IF

so true though, its not IF there are plants, its WHO are they? i find that the most likely candidates(besides the CGI huggers) are the ones that constantly attack others in the movement. incindentally, the CGI huggers do this more than anybody. coincidence? i doubt it.

ive been disgusted with

ive been disgusted with WingTV for a a long time now and havent went to their site in ages, does anybody know where WingTV stands on the CGI,no planes bullshit?

Hey guys, you can vote as

Hey guys, you can vote as many times as you like on this poll. http://www.durangoherald.com/

All you have to do is keep coming back and following the link.

Shit, never mind. I was able

Shit, never mind. I was able to do it like 10X before it said. "Sorry, you have already voted in this poll."

I can only vouch 100% for

I can only vouch 100% for one person on that list.

Senator Schoomer from New

Senator Schoomer from New York is railing against the Iraqi PM and his support for Hezbolah.

Which way is up these days?

Beirut is being bombed again after Condi Liar's visit.

The goose is being cooked.

If Morgan Reynolds is a

If Morgan Reynolds is a plant for pushing "no planes", then what about all his other information? Does this mean controlled demolition is a plant tactic, etc?

I didn't say he was. I

I didn't say he was. I said I stopped following him after he started talking about no planes at the WTC. He may very well believe no planes hit the World Trade Center. Nico may have done a good job in convincing him. The point is... we don't know who the plants are, and it's best not to focus on it either.

disinfo peeps will give 90%

disinfo peeps will give 90% truth and 10% lies...

im worry more about people

im worry more about people that say 77 hit the pentagon and to stay away from CD then the noplaners...

the poll is gone now,

the poll is gone now, anybody know the final tally?

yeah, i saw Schumer on tv

yeah, i saw Schumer on tv shilling for Israel. thats the demuplicans for you.

or republicrats, if you

or republicrats, if you prefer.

the poll is gone now,

the poll is gone now, anybody know the final tally?
Chris | Homepage | 07.25.06 - 12:51 pm | #

http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin/miniSurvey/archives.asp

I think it takes too much

I think it takes too much effort to plant agents, especially if so called plants had a long history in other matters. You just cant call some professor and turn him into a CIA or FBI agent, it cant work that way.

Instead, how about the idea that there are many folks active politically , whatever, and the ones with ideas they like, they give attention to, money, support, organization, Wouldn't that be more effective than creating plants, agents.

The beauty of this approach is that the plant does not know its a plant.

But its still a plant.

http://home.comcast.net/~gold

sweet, we won yet again.

sweet, we won yet again.

"If Morgan Reynolds is a

"If Morgan Reynolds is a plant for pushing "no planes", then what about all his other information? Does this mean controlled demolition is a plant tactic, etc?
DHS | Homepage | 07.25.06 - 12:38 pm | # "

I also didn't write that he is. I wrote that I strongly suspect that he is.

A good answer to your question would be, discredit/destroy through guilt by association.

U.K. Government Sources

U.K. Government Sources Confirm War With Iran Is On
Jon Gold

_______________--

"In the last few days, I learned from a credible and informed source that a former senior Labour government Minister, who continues to be well-connected to British military and security officials, confirms that Britain and the United States"

That must be Micheal Meecher. He's also the one who canceled a screening of Loose Change for British Parliament not that long ago.

"im worry more about people

"im worry more about people that say 77 hit the pentagon and to stay away from CD then the noplaners..."

I was wondering if you could help me. Who is Randy Glass? How about Niaz Khan? Ralph Eberhardt?

i heard on 60 mins that

i heard on 60 mins that china has over 10,000 internet police...

I was wondering if you could

I was wondering if you could help me. Who is Randy Glass? How about Niaz Khan? Ralph Eberhardt?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.25.06 - 1:02 pm | #

i have no clue.. who are they??

"i have no clue.. who are

"i have no clue.. who are they??"

Do you know anything about 9/11 other than the buildings were controlled demolition, and that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon?

About Durango Poll, as far

About Durango Poll, as far as I can see, it's their poll that received the most votes. That's should tell them about the interest for that matter. And yes, we won it again!

i dont worry about or mind

i dont worry about or mind people who claim Flight 77 hit the Pentagon,im not sold %100 either way, its the people that actively try and squelch all discussion of it and exclude it from their various projects that bothers me. present ALL evidence and let the viewer/reader decide.your potentially losing a big part of "the market" when you do that. same goes for ignoring controlled demolition, there is just no sense in it.

ive been disgusted with

ive been disgusted with WingTV for a a long time now and havent went to their site in ages, does anybody know where WingTV stands on the CGI,no planes bullshit?
Chris

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I sure do, they think it's bullshit too. They used to have Nico on their show in the past but no longer since he's a no planer.

P.S. The way to identify

P.S.

The way to identify plants therefore is to find the ones with the most main stream media support and ones with publishers tied to the transnationals.

Tarpley cant be much of a plant-never see him on Fox, self-publishes, why?

Its not because he believes in synthetic terror, so do the others who get air time, publishers.

No, its becuase he talks about gladio, the cartel, the folks behind the operations folks.

People who focus only on PNAC-neo-cons imply everything will be fixed once Hillary is elected.

Does anyone really believe that?

We get rid of Bush-Cheny, and its all solved?

No, the criminal cartel is still in charge, ready to do another war anytime.

Could be , Judging by their working papers, Venezuella is next and will be addressed in the next Clinton administration.

"International intervention to protect democracy in countries facing internal threats has become an accepted practice over the past decade"

http://www.cfr.org/publication/5716/threats_to_democracy.html

yeah, although WingTV wastes

yeah, although WingTV wastes so much time and energy attacking others, i never pegged them for plants, they dont seem smart enough.

Wasn't Eberhard a member of

Wasn't Eberhard a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9/11, the fellow Myers took over for? Or do I have that reversed? Anyway, wasn't he the fellow who was asked who the maestro of the war games was and he answered "no comment"?

In a Haloscan thread below (my PC crashed this weekend... yikes, offline for four days... Mr. RepairMan said I smoke too much around my laptop and the cooling fan was clogged with tar... someone asked what our major argument should be... our selling point to the public.

I think it comes down to these major things:

1) The consistent and continued effort by Bush, Cheney and others to prevent, stall, quash, weaken or distract any inquiry or investigation. Throw into this pile the lack of NTSB reports, black boxes,videos, etc... i.e., they don't want us to know.

2) The war games/NORAD-FAA/stand-down situation.

3) The prelude (warnings, PNAC, drills and exerxises, writing of Patriot Act legislation, etc.) prior to 9/11.

As many of you know and say, if 9/11 had not occurred, where would the US be now? Everything about the state and governance of this nation stems from two stolen elections and 9/11.

PNAC is a chump, a patsy,

PNAC is a chump, a patsy, for the real criminals

http://www.geo-economics.org/PNAC.htm

that Durango poll switched

that Durango poll switched completely from yesterday when I voted -- completely 180 degrees -- I'm not complaining, but that's kinda strange

I had a nice walk & talk

I had a nice walk & talk today at Frank Lowy's Southpark Mall wearing my Dame Edna T-shirt. Loved their cute security guys racing around the parking lot flashing their amber lights and making fools of themselves! I know so much about the Bush Crime Family I could teach a college course!

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2006/03/dame-edna-speaks-to-ohio.html

http://westfield.com/southpark/index.html

http://www.wanniski.com/showarticle.asp?articleid=3398

interesting tidbit: There's

interesting tidbit:

There's a review of Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" by Catherine Austin Fitts over at Mike Ruppert's FTW site, where ~ stop the presses ~ she endorses Loose Change 2 in a list at the bottom of the article of what she thinks people should be reading and watching instead of Gore's film.

Curious, since Ruppert and Jamey Hecht recently bashed the 9/11 truth movement and Loose Change 2.

excerpt from Fitt's review:

... let me recommend that you take the money and time that you would spend watching An Inconvenient Truth and invest it in reading or watching a few of many authentic leaders with useful maps and solutions that are leading to serious ecosystem healing and transformation:

Mind Control, Mind Freedom
By Jon Rappoport
http://jonrappoportstore.com/rappoport/product.php?productid=22&cat=1&pa...

Escaping the Matrix: How We the People Can Change the World
By Richard Moore
http://www.escapingthematrix.org
http://www.cyberproject.org

Loose Change
http://www.loosechange911.com

America: From Freedom to Fascism
A documentary by Aaron Russo
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/

What The Bleep Do We Know?
A documentary by William Arntz, Betsy Chasse and Mark Vicente
http://www.whatthebleep.com/

Messages from Water
http://www.hado.net

The Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee
Bill Murphy, Chris Powell
http://www.gata.org

Cynthia McKinney for Congress
http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/

Ron Paul for Congress
http://www.ronpaulforcongress.com/

link here (it's free): http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/072406_source_hopelessness.shtml

CK, I don't see LC there

CK, I don't see LC there anymore.

link here (it's free):

link here (it's free): http:// www.fromthewilderness.com...elessness.shtml
CK | 07.25.06 - 1:26 pm | #

CK, I don't see LC there anymore.
Anonymous | 07.25.06 - 1:36 pm | #

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holy crap. they did take it off. i was checking my referrals yesterday and a number were coming from that page.

now the link is gone.

gee, i wonder what happened?

dkos: Kos is wondering why

dkos: Kos is wondering why we're giving Pakistan a free pass.

Come tell him what's up.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/25/132527/326

And if you go over there, could you help out and "recommend" other 9/11 truth comments because the trolls always give us negative ratings...and then we get banned.

If there's a and minus ratings like this - (1+ / 3-) please recommend the comment. Thanks guys.

holy shit. my comment just

holy shit. my comment just got erased. I think if they give you enough negative ratings it just goes away. here is exactly what I posted:

Why is the $100,000 wire transfer important?

Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad, the head of the Pakistani ISI, an organization funded by the CIA, ordered Omar Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammad Atta.

Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad was in Washington D.C. on the morning of 9/11, having breakfast with then Senators Porter Goss, Bob Graham, and John Kyl.

When it was reported by the Wall Street Journal that Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad ordered the wire transfer, he was fired from his position as head of the ISI.

Daniel Pearl, a Wall Street Journal reporter, was believed to have been investigating the wire transfer, and as a result, his head was chopped off, and the main suspect is Omar Sheikh. The man who wire transferred the $100,000 to Mohammad Atta.

Nothing in the 9/11 Report mentions Pakistan's invovlement in the 9/11 attacks, and now there are allegations of bribery between Pakistan and the 9/11 Commission.

The CIA/ISI/Al-Qaeda connection is important in understanding how the U.S. ultimately controls "Al-Qaeda".

It's also a great way of showing the 9/11 Report is incomplete, and that the 9/11 Commission did not give a "Full and Complete Accounting" of the attacks of 9/11. Which was their mandate.

Also keep in mind, Porter Goss, and Bob Graham were in charge of the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11.

Two people who met with one of the culprits of 9/11, on the morning of 9/11, in Washington D.C.

One person who eventually became the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Sound like a conflict of interest to you?

dylan, I figure Ruppert or

dylan, I figure Ruppert or somebody else felt they look stupid, having called you disinfo and then having another writer of theirs promote you. That bothers me because I thought their writers are pretty individualistic and can agree to disagree. Stan Goff is maybe the best war critic on the planet and he doesn't subscribe to inside job.

Anyway, so much for independent thought at FTW.

Who said this? Rush

Who said this? Rush Limbaugh or David Icke?

"There's something else going on here. There is a shadow government out there, Len. There's a shadow government going on out there that's doing its best to sabotage everything that we're doing."

Answer: Rush Limbaugh

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=24292

If this isn't appropriate on a 9/11 truth site where should I go to share this? I think it is motivation for the truth movement. Maybe I'm wrong.

Unfortunately Loose Change

Unfortunately Loose Change has become kind of a straw-man.

Its a very successful film that gets viewers to ask questions, and thats how it should be evaluated, not as a legal complaint, or indictment with evidence.

So now there's a bunch of sites that take it apart, and Im afraid not all of their criticism of the argument is invalid.

Someone with time should go through the counterarguments made by the critics, and respond honestly to them, with links , so on, and add that as a resource to refer to for viewers (after viewing the film).

This way the producers can refer all critics to this resource, and not waste time arguing over each point.

Good luck and thank you Loose Chane!

Do you know anything about

Do you know anything about 9/11 other than the buildings were controlled demolition, and that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon?
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.25.06 - 1:05 pm | #

are you a big fat retard??? fuck you gold!!!

i know what turns people on to looking into 911, do you??? i dont think you do...

anonymous, here's my letter

anonymous, here's my letter to them...

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to: webmaster@copvcia.com

to whom it may concern,
i'm just curious why, yesterday, at the end of the following article by Catherine Austin Fitts, there was a link to our film and website:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/072406_source_hopelessness.shtml
and today, that link has been removed.
naturally, your higher-up believes that my associates and I are part of a CIA disinformation campaign. but does that justify editing someone's recommendations?
or are you going to claim ignorance on this matter?
sincerely,
-dylan avery
CIA disinformation artist, film director

---

let's see if i get a response.

When I first saw Morgan

When I first saw Morgan Reynolds speak at the D.C. Emergency Truth Convergence, I was awed by his passion, and his ability to motivate the crowd. However, when I found out that he was pushing "no planes at the WTC", I almost completely stopped following him.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 07.25.06 - 11:49 am | #

I think Reynolds has backed way off from his earlier "no planes" stuff.

Reynolds & Jimmy Walter may have been influenced by Nico Haupt & other disinfo artists who were very convincing (to some people) with there relentless "cartoon" bullshit. (Haupt was especially convincing because he was a much more conventional truther in the earlier days, until he got lost in his cgi nonsense 24/7.)

Rush Why he doesn't is not

Rush

Why he doesn't is not because he doesn't think we can't understand it or won't believe it. There's something else going on here. There is a shadow government out there, Len. There's a shadow government going on out there that's doing its best to sabotage everything that we're doing. The one mistake that Bush -- well, the one mistake -- one of the mistakes Bush made was the new tone, when he assumed office. He didn't clean out the Clintonoids in some of these positions at the Pentagon and at the State Department, and the CIA, and they've been free to leak all this gobbledygook war plans and what have you.

Buckley is former CIA, allied closely with cartel.

Every second term there is some sort of coup (Tarpley)

Nixon, Reagan (iran contra),
Clinton (impeached), now its Bush's turn.

I predict impeachment, discrediting the conservative christian patriots,

then all of us follow the lemings over the cliff into the New World Order

North American Community
Merger with Mexico-60 million move here.

Broken budget, social security bust,
IMF supervision of the federal debt

Welcome to the third world

Welcome to the desert of the real.

"are you a big fat retard???

"are you a big fat retard??? fuck you gold!!!

i know what turns people on to looking into 911, do you??? i dont think you do..."

Thank you for proving my point.

A CIA plant is not an

A CIA plant is not an agent.

It is a piece of information sifted through the sand, noise, of the net, and then supported with attention, press, funding sometimes, organization

This way the plant does not know its a plant.

But its still a plant.

If Loose Change directs everyone to question 911 it cannot be a plant.
(we all back LC on this)

But if it succeeds in drawing attention away from the real perps, towards the chump, fall guy, PNAC,Bush-Cheny, then it is a plant.

It is a plant even if Loose Change does not know it is a plant.

geo: that's why

geo:

that's why opposingdigits.com and DBS, Eric H and others despise Alex Jones as a "Zionist Denier", because, in their words, he blames the "NooWurldOrder" instead of the REAL criminals.

I think they're all the same gang, in my opinion, but its easier to address people that most folks know rather than throw at them some shadowy figures

Whether it's the butcher,

Whether it's the butcher, the baker, or the candle stick maker, where ever you trade your dollars for goods or services spread 9/11 truth with it. Stores with high traffic are the best places to start.

Never forget that every Westfield Mall is a potential base of operations for biological, chemical, or nuclear attack. And where is our defense? In some God forsaken land.

http://www.gospelthomas.com/gospelthomas35.html

DHS Youre right-when anyone

DHS

Youre right-when anyone talks of the illuminati, or NWO, or Bohemian grove, my eyes glaze over even if I agree.

Thats why I focus on actual companies, organized into an apparent cartel, that collude in funding foreign policy propaganda organizations (themselves organized into a trust). These are concrete identifable actos with known funding patterns and observable officers, closely aligned with the Sino-Saudi alliance.

see my diagram and other pages here:

POLICY AND PROPAGANDA OPERATIONS

OF THE TRANSNATIONAL CARTL

http://www.geo-economics.org/propaganda.htm

I hope someone like LC takes their superior skills and tells this important story.

Why worry so much about

Why worry so much about "plants" in the movement? The only important thing is what these people have done for 9/11 truth. And Morgan Reynolds, merely by outing himself as a 9/11 truther and going after all the other issues aside no-plane, like the planting of hijacker passports etc., is right on the money. If he goes in the wrong direction, don't follow him.

The Pentagon issue, too, has brought many people aboard 9/11 truth. It's a simple way to understand what happened without connecting all the dots: The Pentagon strike was absolutely necessary to add the military component to it all, to justify a declaration of war. So they wanted a really big war, and for that they hit their own headquarters, for maximal effect - simple.
The "honeypot" warning is in my view even more harmful than it helps, it's almost an attempt to divide and conquer. Because if a 757 crashed at the Pentagon, which is just totally improbable as most will agree, then other "improbable" things like collapses by fire might also have happened.

There are some plants that might not be centrally organized: Like the Pentagon witness that said he saw an all out Global Hawk. With the exact shape of it, and tail wings, and engine. Either he was very very lucky, or he's lying, maybe just to promote himself.

"No plane" is of course an off-turner, a mind-boggle. It pulls the rug away underneath every attempt to research the whole thing. It goes like this: You're a researcher trying to proof in the videos that they show a remote controlled Boeing, so you analyze them, and - as has been done by some researchers - find out that the extreme multiple-G maneuvers couldn't have been done by human pilots, but then comes a no-plane agent telling you it was all in vain, your research has no basis whatsoever, you followed a dead end road that leads nowhere. You learn other theorists are "superior" and you with all your 9/11 skepticism were again fooled by a much wider and bigger conspiracy all along. This conspiracy is supposed to involve all the amateur video makers that videotaped the plane, all the witnesses that saw there was no plane. These witnesses outnumber even those that heard bombs go off in the WTC, so that again might be a conspiracy to fool you. That conspiracy is then so vast, that nobody will buy it. Bush and the neocons lying, that might have had some chance of success in the current atmosphere, but thousands lying, that far will nobody go with you, you're all alone again, it's over.

So many postage paid

So many postage paid envelopes to stuff with 9/11 truth, so little time. What's in your wallet?

Greg I agree with u that

Greg

I agree with u that some of this is distracting, and for tactical, if not other reasons, we should focus elsewhere.

But there is an important conclusion to draw form the no plane research and I think its irrefutable.

Some of the films have been edited.

the evidence has been manipulated. why?

More importantly, there was pre-knowledge of the event for the editing to occur in almost real time.

It means you cant say I believe it because I saw it on tv.

You see what they want u to see.

What did they not want u to see?

that's why

that's why opposingdigits.com and DBS, Eric H and others despise Alex Jones as a "Zionist Denier", because, in their words, he blames the "NooWurldOrder" instead of the REAL criminals.

I think they're all the same gang, in my opinion, but its easier to address people that most folks know rather than throw at them some shadowy figures
DHS | Homepage | 07.25.06 - 2:14 pm | #
they despise him because he doesnt share their narrow "jews run the world, the holocaust didnt happen" bullshit views. Hufschmid used to be an asset, now hes useless.

excellent Chris Thats

excellent Chris

Thats another distraction that discredits the movement

>You see what they want u to

>You see what they want u to see.

Surely, they tried to edit it "where they could", while some videos, like the ones of thermite charges, weren't under their control. That's a simple explanation, not a "vast witness conspiracy"-explanation.

And i think that's the whole thing the no-planers and others get wrong: There is a simple explanation for everything. We just don't know what happened so every angle is examined. But for the ones that did it, it was just one variant of all these possibilities: Like the Pentagon: simple, it just was an A3 Skywarrior. Then they had some disinfo witnesses of course to confuse everything, and what you get is one big confusion about what happened coupled with the "official version" announced by the DOD. Information is power and Bush must be laughing himself stupid at us trying to guess what happened.

>Thats another distraction

>Thats another distraction that >discredits the movement

I wouldn't call it a "distraction", but it's this "bundling" of almost fully independent theories with 9/11:
Saying 9/11 was an inside job AND global warming is a hoax, too, AND Peak oil, AND jews etc.

It makes 9/11 truth hard to sell, when at the same time you offend environmentalists, jews, and others, and it makes it a sitting duck to be ridiculed by the neocon media. 9/11 truth should be told all by itself, and it's one important part of the big house of cards, if 9/11 is exposed, other lies will fall no long thereafter, like OKC, Roswell, UFOs, and many more.

dylan, great letter to

dylan, great letter to Ruppert et al

amazingly, I had JUST checked FTW and the Loose Change link WAS there, but Anonymous posted just 10 minutes after I did, and it was gone

~cue twilight zone music~

probably just a coincidence, unless they're reading this blog.... unlikely, I would think

I'm trying not to be too harsh with Ruppert since he recently got burglarized... but, I'll have to say that I think he's losing credibility on not just the 9/11 front, but on his geopolitical take as well

for instance, he (and Stan Goff, I might add) are convinced that the U.S. will NOT go to war with Iran, at least as of a couple weeks back, before the burglary

and, he's predicted economic crash twice now and it hasn't happened.... not that he's wrong about the likelihood, but more about his timing -- and, his assuredness about that timing

he's kind of a blowhard, but I still visit FTW -- I just have to take some of it with a grain of salt

^ "9/11 truth should be told

^
"9/11 truth should be told all by itself..."
That's what I like about Kevin Barrett interviews. Simple 9/11 Truth 101.

I have a clip I made dealing

I have a clip I made dealing with Barret , Jones , Fetzer and their treatment by the m$m , backed with relevant music.You can check it out on youtube under the tags "911 inside job music" I'ts called "ClassicCuts ""http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucmj8iXI2Z0

Geo, a ton of stuff there...

Geo, a ton of stuff there...

It's difficult to comprehend or absorb in a "cursor-y" look.

The reader has to spend a lot of time. (No problem there... it's worth it if it provides answers, solutions, awareness, or evidence that can be used legally.)

A couple of quick questions:

How does this stack up against the work of Peter Dale Scott? Are you on the same paths, divergent, combative, or what?

Is there specific mention, link, proof or importance to the fact that Cheney was given a medal by a foreign nation (Azerbaijan?)?

A suggestion or three:
Develop a synopsis or precis.

Develop a clearer, more concise description of the "back-up", references, proof, etc.

Develop a snapshot of "who you are". I appreciate the need for anonymity, but some description of the backgrounds of the people who have compiled this information might be of value.

I'm in day 2 of my Final Cut

I'm in day 2 of my Final Cut Pro training (paid for by my workplace).

After this I will be able to put together a solid collection as well.

great clip Colin, but i

great clip Colin, but i think the music kind of drowns out the Barrett/Hannity clash.

nice touch with the Kristol

nice touch with the Kristol clip at the end. i forgot how smart Colbert is.it takes a comedian to speak about PNAC in the mainstream.so sad.

Jon: Randy Glass was a

Jon:

Randy Glass was a Flordia informant for the FBI prior to 9/11, who informed Bob Graham's office (IIRC) about a possible threat. It had something to do with ISI agents buying US weapons in exchange for drugs and money (doesn't it always)...

Since some of the reporting on it pre-dates 9/11, and it involves the ISI, it always struck me as quite credible.

If you do a search at Cooperative Research, you can read the relevant links.

A local Florida news piece in 2002 on the subject, and Glass's warning to Graham's office, used to be linked as a video at Cooperative Research, (but their linking has been disabled for a while).

Prisonplanet has the video here...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/013004randyglass.html

I don't recognize the other two names, but if they're lumped in with Glass, I'll have to google them.

Anonymous said: Stan Goff is

Anonymous said:

Stan Goff is maybe the best war critic on the planet and he doesn't subscribe to inside job.

Where do you get that information from? One of the first widly circulated articles on the internet raising the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job was a critique the Official Conspiracy Theory by Stan Goff published on narconews.com in Oct 2001. He didn't come out and deffinitively commit himself to the inside job position but from reading the excerpt below it sure sounds like he was leaning that way. If he has now renounced the views expressed below, and reached the deffinitive conclusion that it was not an inside job and 911 was just a result of negligence or gross incompetence on the part of the Bush administration I haven't heard it, maybe you could provide a link.

The So-Called
Evidence Is a Farce
By Stan Goff

SNIP

This cartoon heavy they've turned bin Laden into makes no sense, when you begin to appreciate the complexity and synchronicity of the attacks. As a former military person who's been involved in the development of countless operations orders over the years, I can tell you that this was a very sophisticated and costly enterprise that would have left what we call a huge "signature".
In other words, it would be very hard to effectively conceal.
So there's a real question about why there was no warning of this. That can be a question about the efficacy of the government's intelligence apparatus. That can be a question about various policies in the various agencies that had to be duped to orchestrate this action. And it can also be a question about whether or not there was foreknowledge of the event, and that foreknowledge is being covered up. To dismiss this concern out of hand as the rantings of conspiracy nuts is premature. And there is a history of this kind of thing being done by national political bosses, including the darling of liberals, Franklin Roosevelt. The evidence is very compelling that the Roosevelt Administration deliberately failed to act to stop Pearl Harbor in order to mobilize enough national anger to enter the World War II.
I have no idea why people aren't asking some very specific questions about the actions of Bush and company on the day of the attacks.

Follow along:
Four planes get hijacked and deviate from their flight plans, all the while on FAA radar. The planes are all hijacked between 7:45 and 8:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time.

Who is notified?
This is an event already that is unprecedented. But the President is not notified and going to a Florida elementary school to hear children read.

By around 8:15 AM, it should be very apparent that something is terribly wrong. The President is glad-handing teachers.

By 8:45, when American Airlines Flight 11 crashes into the World Trade Center, Bush is settling in with children for his photo ops at Booker Elementary. Four planes have obviously been hijacked simultaneously, an event never before seen in history, and one has just dived into the worlds best know twin towers, and still no one notifies the nominal Commander in Chief.

No one has apparently scrambled any Air Force interceptors either.

At 9:03, United Flight 175 crashes into the remaining World Trade Center building. At 9:05, Andrew Card, the Presidential Chief of Staff whispers to George W. Bush. Bush "briefly turns somber" according to reporters.
Does he cancel the school visit and convene an emergency meeting? No.
He resumes listening to second graders read about a little girl's pet fucking goat, and continues this banality even as American Airlines Flight 77 conducts an unscheduled point turn over Ohio and heads in the direction of Washington DC.

Has he instructed Chief of Staff Card to scramble the Air Force? No.
An excruciating 25 minutes later, he finally deigns to give a public statement telling the United States what they already have figured out; that there's been an attack by hijacked planes on the World Trade Center.

There's a hijacked plane bee-lining to Washington, but has the Air Force been scrambled to defend anything yet? No.
At 9:30, when he makes his announcement, American Flight 77 is still ten minutes from its target, the Pentagon.

The Administration will later claim they had no way of knowing that the Pentagon might be a target, and that they thought Flight 77 was headed to the White House, but the fact is that the plane has already flown South and past the White House no-fly zone, and is in fact tearing through the sky at over 400 nauts.

At 9:35, this plane conducts another turn, 360 degrees over the Pentagon, all the while being tracked by radar, and the Pentagon is not evacuated, and there are still no fast-movers from the Air Force in the sky over Alexandria and DC.

Now, the real kicker: A pilot they want us to believe was trained at a Florida puddle-jumper school for Piper Cubs and Cessnas, conducts a well-controlled downward spiral, descending the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes, brings the plane in so low and flat that it clips the electrical wires across the street from the Pentagon, and flies it with pinpoint accuracy into the side of this building at 460 nauts.

When the theory about learning to fly this well at the puddle-jumper school began to lose ground, it was added that they received further training on a flight simulator.

This is like saying you prepared your teenager for her first drive on I-40 at rush hour by buying her a video driving game. It's horse shit!
There is a story being constructed about these events. My crystal ball is not working today, so I can't say why.
But at the least, this so-called Commander-in-Chief and his staff that we are all supposed to follow blindly into some ill-defined war on terrorism is criminally negligent or unspeakably stupid. And at the worst, if more is known or was known, and there is an effort to conceal the facts, there is a criminal conspiracy going on.
Certainly, the Bush de facto administration was facing a confluence of crises from which they were temporarily rescued by this event. Whether they played a sinister role or not, there is little doubt that they have at the very least opportunistically pounced on this attack to overcome their lack of legitimacy, to shift the blame for the encroaching recession from capitalism to the September 11th terror attack, to legitimize their pre-existing foreign policy agenda, and to establish and consolidate repressive measures domestically and silence dissent. In many ways, September 11th pulled the Bush cookies out of the fire. And given them the green light to begin constructing a long-term scenario within which to establish fascistic control measures at home and abroad as a citadel for the ruling class in the catastrophic conjuncture that we are entering based on the end of oil.

http://www.narconews.com/goff1.html

Oh wait, Ralph (aka Ed)

Oh wait, Ralph (aka Ed) Eberhardt was with NORAD...

I googled Niaz Khan, and he's actually mentioned at Cooperative Research, as someone who actually trained in a terrorist plot...

Thanks for the input Chris ,

Thanks for the input Chris , I think I'll drop the volume on the music on the Barret clip , anyone else agree? Were you aware of that pearl jam song " inside job"?

My next project is to edit

My next project is to edit "door to door/on the street type clips " I took in Whitehorse and Victoria. I still think 911 blogger should have a special section for such grassroots video activism. Get everybody doing it.I've found the perfect overpass for freeway blogging when I get some more time. Is 911=Inside Job the preffered statement?

Alan Strangis... you're

Alan Strangis... you're forgetting the best part...

US government informant Randy Glass records a conversation at a dinner attended by him, illegal arms dealers Diaa Mohsen, Mohammed Malik, a former Egyptian judge named Shireen Shawky, and ISI agent Rajaa Gulum Abbas, held at a restaurant within view of the WTC. FBI agents pretending to be restaurant customers sit at nearby tables. [WPBF 25 (West Palm Beach), 8/5/2002; MSNBC, 8/2/2002] Abbas says he wants to buy a whole shipload of weapons stolen from the US military to give to bin Laden. [Cox News Service, 8/2/2002] Abbas points to the WTC and says, “Those towers are coming down.” This ISI agent later makes two other references to an attack on the WTC. [WPBF 25 (West Palm Beach), 8/5/2002; Cox News Service, 8/2/2002; Palm Beach Post, 10/17/2002] Abbas also says, “Americans [are] the enemy,” and “We would have no problem with blowing up this entire restaurant because it is full of Americans.” [NBC, 3/18/2003] The meeting is secretly recorded, and parts are shown on television in 2003. [MSNBC, 3/18/2003]

Niaz

Niaz Khan...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5131524/

"More than a year before 9/11, a Pakistani-British man told the FBI an incredible tale: that he had been trained by bin LadenÂ’s followers to hijack airplanes and was now in America to carry out an attack. The FBI questioned him for weeks, but then let him go home, and never followed up. Now, the former al-Qaida insider is talking."

"NBC News has learned that Khan passed not one but two FBI polygraphs."

Eberhardt was the General

Eberhardt was the General who said that the Wargames gave us the ability to respond better on 9/11.

Mssr. Jouet Heres a

Mssr. Jouet

Heres a narrated video-more like a first draft than a real video but a good intro

http://www.geo-economics.org/The_Unification_Brief_1.wmv

an audio rebuttal to tarpley

http://www.geo-economics.org/tarplay_rebuttal.wavand

heres a power point (right click save target as)

http://www.geo-economics.org/UB_Presentation_show.pps

I always found Glass's story

I always found Glass's story compelling, because it seemed verifiable, and did actually predate the attacks.

As you mention, the "Those towers are coming down." quote is key, as is the ISI connection.

Jon have you made any new

Jon have you made any new door to door?Love to see more.

No... no new door to door,

No... no new door to door, just Scott and Ray door to door.

Any helpful suggestions on

Any helpful suggestions on my vid? You've inspired me to make vids.

Ya... make sure you have the

Ya... make sure you have the cap off of the lens.

Kay smartass. Check out my

Kay smartass. Check out my shit on youtube if you get a chance . More where that came from.

Here are my tips... Be as

Here are my tips...

Be as nice as possible when swooning the individuals you're asking to interview...

"Hi, I'm sorry to bother you... I'm making a political movie, and I was wondering if you would be interested in being interviewed for it..."

Or...

"Hi, would you like to be interviewed for my movie (the star studded approach)..."

And... don't argue with any of your interviewees... let them have their word.

I wasn't being a smart

I wasn't being a smart ass... A few times I tried to do interviews, the cap was on.

Please Google "General

Please Google "General Albert Stubblebine"
***
Gen. Albert Stubblebine

Former head of the U.S. Army Intelligence & Security Command (INSCOM) 1981-84 . Masters degree in chemical engineering from Columbia. Signed classified contracts with the Monroe Institute.
(Emerson, Steven, Secret Warriors, G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1988, pg 103-4).

Stubblebine often met with Noriega while he was a US intelligence asset. (Emerson, 1988, pg 110-1)

Former boss of Col. John Alexander, and the two have held numerous "spoon-bending" parties.
Friends with Lyn Buchanan [according to a representative from PSI TECH, the two are not friends]. Married to ufologist Rima Laibow.
(Porter, Tom, Government Research into ESP & Mind Control, March, 1996)

Soon after becoming head of INSCOM, Stubblebbine began a program called the "High Performance Task Force", a series of methods to improve his officer's performance. These ranged from the neuro-linquistic programming of Tony Robbins to the hemisynch tapes of the Monroe Institute, where Stubblebine often sent his officers. (Schnabel, Jim, Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies, Dell, 1997, pg 276)

The "spoon-bending parties" were initiated by a west coast defence industry consultant, Jack Houck. (Schnabel, 1997, pg 278)

Following an incident involving an officer having a psychotic episode at the Monroe Institute, Stubblebine resigned in 1984. He was replaced by Major General Harry Soyster. (Schnabel, 1997, pg 316)

"Formerly Vice President for 'Intelligence Systems' of BDM of McClean, Virginia." As of 1992, Chairman of PSI-TECH.

"Laibow, Stubblebine and ufologist Victoria Lacas (with [C.B. Scott] Jones in the shadows) toured Europe and the Soviet Union, where they have established a prodigious UFO/Psi network."
(Durant, Robert J., "Will the Real Scott Jones Please Stand Up?")

Stubblebine gave a lecture at the International Symposium on UFO Research, sponsored by the International Association for New Science, in Denver, Colorado (May 22-25, 1992). This gives a good example of Stubblebine's coherence (or lack there of) and paranoia (he often threatened to destroy the tape). Stubblebine claimed that none of the members of the remote viewing program had prior psychic abilities or interests (all other sources state that they did).

Tanx Jon.

Tanx Jon.

DHS , any ieda what you'll

DHS , any ieda what you'll put together first after you finish final cut pro?