Kevin Barrett Responds To NY Times "Conspiracy Theories 101"

David Griffin Responds To NY Times "Conspiracy Theories 101"

Jon, do you have a link handy to the NY times "Conspiracy Theories 101" article?

That Fish Op-Ed is junk journalism. How can Fish conclude that Barret is teaching "partisan political ideals" and using his classroom to "indoctrinate"???

Excusez-moi for being off topic:

I saw a number of comments related to Immortal Technique on previous threads.

Just wanted to suggest another group, which is very similar and has some amazing lyrical content, called "Lost Children of Babylon." They have an ablum called "The 9-11 Report: The Ultimate Conspiracy"

A few songs of theirs definitely worth finding: "Propaganda" "By any means necessary" "Americas fallen Heroes" and "Who speaks for us"

Great music to have when you know the truth!

Barrett and Griffin's responses sure mopped the floor with Fish's NYT op-ed.

Fish's NYT op-ed is now allowed to be used for wrapping Fish & chips lol

It's a shame that thus far, the NYT has cowardly covered anything that is anti-9/11 offical story -- meaning also, that Barrett and Griffin's responses most surely won't be published in the NYT print or online editions.

New York Times = fucking cowards.

everyone should be at theatres where World Trade Center is playing , with flyers and maybe a sign about the treatment of the sick rescue workers.

While you're at it, add some websites to the flyer, urge them to contact NY mayor.

Go the extra mile... hand out some DVDs!

the REAL STORY OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER...

thats what I will be doing!

Chris | Homepage | 07.26.06 - 10:35 am | #

Hey, EGLS asks "WHERE IS THE MEDIA?"

and then shows Michael Jackson, Heidi Klum, and ....gasp....NUCLEAR TERROR!!!! AHHHHHH!!!

BE AFRAID. BE VERY AFRAID.

but first, enjoy a word from our sponsors.

Thanks Chris...

I will look for the release date on Zwicker's book.

Also, Aaron Russo's movie "Freedom to Fascism" is being released this Friday. I plan to see it, as it is showing at the local movie theater here in Chicago. I have seen clips of the movie on Google and it looks amazing. Does anyone here know where Russo stands on 9/11? Seems he would be a good person to have on our side.

K.

yeah, but it doesnt really get into it like Hufschmid does. Hufschmid shows who owns the media and who they are connected to etc. if i remember correctly, EGLS just takes a jab at the media in passing.

Thanks for the link Chris.

Why don't these people understand that our questions surrounding the events of September the 11th are not directed at them, but at those REQUIRED to answer them. Namely, the United States Government.

http://www.jod911.com/

Check out this episode of the Simpsons from 1995:

War planners in a Dr Strangelove like command center talk about terrorists, then say war is planned for tommorrow, then Sideshow Bob hijacks a plane, fighter jets fail to intercept him, then he crashes into a building:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1UTtpGDxks&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcovertopera...

Did you guys see this?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060726/pl_nm/security_guantanamo_trials_dc;...

President George W. Bush wants to push a bill through Congress this fall to allow trials of suspects held at the U.S. naval facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, after the Supreme Court said the military commissions Bush set up were not in accord with U.S. or international laws.

The plan could run into trouble in Congress where some lawmakers have said they want to base the new rules on the military code of justice that would significantly expand detainee's rights.

The Times said the draft measure notes that military court-martial procedures are "not practicable in trying enemy combatants" because doing so would "require the government to share classified information" and exclude "hearsay evidence determined to be ... reliable."

Rather than requiring a speedy trial for enemy combatants, the draft says they "may be tried and punished at any time without limitations," the Times said.

The draft legislation would bar "statements obtained by the use of torture" for use as evidence, but evidence obtained in interrogations where coercion was used would be admissible unless found "unreliable" by a military judge. To prevent them hearing classified evidence, the Times said the draft would allow defendants to be barred from trials, but would require them be given a summary of the information.

White House has draft bill on terror trials: report

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has drafted legislation covering trials of terror detainees that would allow hearsay evidence and let defendants be excluded from trials to protect national security, The New York Times reported in Wednesday's edition.

The Times said a draft of the proposal was being circulated within the administration and among military lawyers at the Pentagon. The present draft preserves the idea of using military commissions to prosecute terror suspects and makes only modest changes in their procedural rules, including some expanded protections for defendants.

President George W. Bush wants to push a bill through Congress this fall to allow trials of suspects held at the U.S. naval facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, after the Supreme Court said the military commissions Bush set up were not in accord with U.S. or international laws.

The plan could run into trouble in Congress where some lawmakers have said they want to base the new rules on the military code of justice that would significantly expand detainee's rights.

The Times said the draft measure notes that military court-martial procedures are "not practicable in trying enemy combatants" because doing so would "require the government to share classified information" and exclude "hearsay evidence determined to be ... reliable."

Rather than requiring a speedy trial for enemy combatants, the draft says they "may be tried and punished at any time without limitations," the Times said.

The draft legislation would bar "statements obtained by the use of torture" for use as evidence, but evidence obtained in interrogations where coercion was used would be admissible unless found "unreliable" by a military judge. To prevent them hearing classified evidence, the Times said the draft would allow defendants to be barred from trials, but would require them be given a summary of the information.

Jon Gold
I've been posting at least once a day with instructions how to download some free outreach materials that I think are good: a flyer, and a CD filled with audio, video, and text. I just want to check with you and ask is it ok with you if I continue this.

"Jon Gold
I've been posting at least once a day with instructions how to download some free outreach materials that I think are good: a flyer, and a CD filled with audio, video, and text. I just want to check with you and ask is it ok with you if I continue this."

Um, why wouldn't it be?

And why is it my decision?

jj111,

gold posts a lot here, and frequently submits news articles, but he doesn't run this site..

current site admins:
dz, somebigguy, GeorgeWashington, reprehensor

i dont have any issue with you posting, just don't flood out the threads or anything.

Here's another video the no planers should try to explain:
amatuer video from a couple, and the guy clearly mentions a plane:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2859455565562890133&q=south+tower

(tho pay attention to the strange floating white orb that seems to guide the plane in hovering on the side of the tower)

current site admins:
dz, somebigguy, GeorgeWashington, reprehensor

:( I coulda been somebody...

I coulda been a contender.

Okay dz, thanks.
Let me know if you think I am flooding too much. Please also let me know in advance what would be the maximum I could post without it being too much.

Off topic, but here is my most recent e-mail to Representative Nass:

Mr. Nass-
Why have all your attempts to discredit Professor Kevin Barrett taken the form of ad hominem attacks and loaded language? It is my understanding that Professor Barrett has repeatedly challenged you to publicly debate the evidence of government complicity in the events of September eleventh (or lack thereof), but that you have refused. According to Zogby poll results released on May 22 of this year, 42% of the American populace believes "that the United States government and the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their explanation of the September eleventh attacks", and 45% is of the opinion "that so many questions about September eleventh remain that Congress or an international tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any members of the United States government helped facilitate their success". Therefore, to engage in a public debate with Professor Barrett would be to address the concerns of seventy million Americans, which is your duty as a public servant. You stated recently that the University of Wisconsin-Madison "operates at its own peril if it continues to ignore views of the taxpayers." Perhaps you should heed your own warning.

Nice letter Jeremy.

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am now posting this Daily News article around..

craigslist, imdb forums, raw story forums, also here:
http://www.heraldextra.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,/topic,7095.152

YES!!!!!!!!! turn on CNN, some woman wearing a bring the troops home shirt just interruppted al-Malikis bullshit propaganda speech on the House floor. CNN quickly called her a "heckler".

many of the scumbag politicians started to boo her, then started to clap when she was thrown out.